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hanger4
01-24-2016, 01:55 PM
"The FBI is investigating whether members of Hillary Clinton’s inner circle “cut and pasted” material from the government’s classified network so that it could be sent to her private e-mail address, former State Department security officials say."

"Clinton and her top aides had access to a Pentagon-run classified network that goes up to the Secret level, as well as a separate system used for Top Secret communications.

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send *e-mails outside the government.

Somehow, highly classified information from SIPRNet, as well as even the super-secure JWICS, jumped from those closed systems to the open system"

"To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”

“It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified e-mail or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal e-mail account,” said Raymond Fournier, a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent. “That’s no less than a two-conscious-step process.”

http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/

That's a lot of nails in that thar coffin.

Peter1469
01-24-2016, 02:07 PM
The tech geek is trying to get an immunity deal. I wonder what he has to share.

TrueBlue
01-24-2016, 02:08 PM
Yet another "they COULD or MIGHT have done it" moment. Obviously baseless claim. There's nothing here either.

hanger4
01-24-2016, 02:15 PM
The tech geek is trying to get an immunity deal. I wonder what he has to share.
He should know about all the security protocols or lack of on her system.

hanger4
01-24-2016, 02:22 PM
Yet another "they COULD or MIGHT have done it" moment. Obviously baseless claim. There's nothing here either.

Yeah ...... all those emails are obviously forgeries. All one thousand three hundred plus of them.

hanger4
01-24-2016, 02:28 PM
Yet another "they COULD or MIGHT have done it" moment. Obviously baseless claim. There's nothing here either.

BTW if you had read carefully all those emails from the closed system found on HC's open system, the FBI is investigating who did, not 'they could' or 'would'.

TrueBlue
01-24-2016, 02:32 PM
BTW if you had read carefully all those emails from the closed system found on HC's open system, the FBI is investigating who did, not 'they could' or 'would'.
Despite republican claims, there is no FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/ (http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/)

The Republicans who did ‘exactly what Hillary did’
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...at-hillary-did (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-who-did-exactly-what-hillary-did)

Peter1469
01-24-2016, 02:34 PM
There is no investigation. :smiley:

hanger4
01-24-2016, 02:36 PM
Despite republican claims, there is no FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/ (http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/)

The Republicans who did ‘exactly what Hillary did’
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...at-hillary-did (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-who-did-exactly-what-hillary-did)
Simple question TrueBlue What is the FBI investigating ??

JVV
01-24-2016, 02:55 PM
When the final dump is made this coming month, one of the next steps in the process will be to produce a final tally of all the different kinds of classified information which appeared on her server and in what numbers they appeared.


I am quite curious about what those numbers will turn out to be.

TrueBlue
01-24-2016, 02:55 PM
Simple question @TrueBlue (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1308) What is the FBI investigating ??
Simple answer, hanger4. They should be investigating You for bringing up all of this unworthy crap about Hillary. But they are investigating things for Hillary not actually Hillary Clinton herself! (Highlights in red mine.)

If you had actually read the link provided you would have also read and hopefully understood this paragraph that explains it all:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/

"The FBI is running a wide reaching investigation into whether the private email servers that were installed by Hillary Clinton and her predecessors Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice were more secure than the official email server at the State Department. This requires examining the servers in question, which is why all three Secretaries of State were asked to provide their servers for testing. Thus far only Clinton has obliged. If any charges were to be filed, they would be against hackers. In such case Clinton would be classified as the victim of a crime."
"In other words, the FBI is running an investigation on her behalf, not an investigation into her. And that’s not merely my view."
Now sit down quietly and absorb it thoroughly and then quit saying that the FBI is investigating Hillary which they are not and never have been.

Peter1469
01-24-2016, 03:07 PM
Simple answer, hanger4. They should be investigating You for bringing up all of this unworthy crap about Hillary. But they are investigating things for Hillary not actually Hillary Clinton herself! (Highlights in red mine.)

If you had actually read the link provided you would have also read and hopefully understood this paragraph that explains it all:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/

Now sit down quietly and absorb it thoroughly and then quit saying that the FBI is investigating Hillary which they are not and never have been.



The FBI has over 150 agents on the case. And they were forced to sign nondisclosure agreements. Why is that?

TrueBlue
01-24-2016, 03:31 PM
The FBI has over 150 agents on the case. And they were forced to sign nondisclosure agreements. Why is that?
Well isn't it obvious? They're working to find out things FOR Hillary but not conducting an investigation into her! Why is that so hard to understand?

hanger4
01-24-2016, 03:31 PM
Simple answer, hanger4. They should be investigating You for bringing up all of this unworthy crap about Hillary. But they are investigating things for Hillary not actually Hillary Clinton herself! (Highlights in red mine.)

If you had actually read the link provided you would have also read and hopefully understood this paragraph that explains it all:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/

Now sit down quietly and absorb it thoroughly and then quit saying that the FBI is investigating Hillary which they are not and never have been.


Now sit down quietly and absorb it thoroughly. This statement by NewsBin; "private email servers that were installed by Hillary Clinton and her predecessors Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice."

Rice and Powell did not, I repeat, did not, have personal email servers. Your NewsBin link is discredited by it's lie .... again.

BTW that 'thing' the FBI is investigateing is HC's personal server. It belongs to Hillary so all sematics aside, what belongs to her is being inveatigated and if wrong doings are on her server then she is responisable.

TrueBlue
01-24-2016, 03:40 PM
Now sit down quietly and absorb it thoroughly. This statement by NewsBin; "private email servers that were installed by Hillary Clinton and her predecessors Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice."

Rice and Powell did not, I repeat, did not, have personal email servers. Your NewsBin link is discredited by it's lie .... again.

BTW that 'thing' the FBI is investigateing is HC's personal server. It belongs to Hillary so all sematics aside, what belongs to her is being inveatigated and if wrong doings are on her server then she is responisable.
Wrong Again! You FAIL miserably, as usual, with your attempted justifications. End of any farther conversations with you as they are obvious exercises in futility.

hanger4
01-24-2016, 03:48 PM
Wrong Again! You FAIL miserably, as usual, with your attempted justifications. End of any farther conversations with you as they are obvious exercises in futility.

I'm not wrong. Is PolitiFact good enough for you ??

"
We already addressed her claim that she “did what other secretaries of state have done.” That’s not accurate. As we wrote in July, the State Department in October 2014 sent letters to three other previous secretaries: Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. Only Powell used personal email for official business. NONE OF THEM HAD THEIR OWN SERVERS.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/08/clintons-email-brag/

JVV
01-24-2016, 05:23 PM
Well isn't it obvious? They're working to find out things FOR Hillary but not conducting an investigation into her! Why is that so hard to understand?


They're working for Hillary?

You don't have a clue how bad that sounds, do you?


Hillary showed incredibly bad judgment as Secretary of State, and now hundreds of governmental employees are being paid by taxpayers to sort out her mess "for her".

TrueBlue
01-24-2016, 05:33 PM
They're working for Hillary?

You don't have a clue how bad that sounds, do you?
Doesn't sound bad at all in that Hillary is wanting to get to the bottom of this just as anyone else and they are helping to find the answers.



Hillary showed incredibly bad judgment as Secretary of State, and now hundreds of governmental employees are being paid by taxpayers to sort out her mess "for her".
It was not bad judgment on her part at all. She was just working with what she had and what she was told at the time. But hey, like it or not that's how it works.

hanger4
01-24-2016, 05:57 PM
Doesn't sound bad at all in that Hillary is wanting to get to the bottom of this just as anyone else and they are helping to find the answers.
Yeah .... Hillary was wanting to get to the bottom of it so bad she keep her personal email server secret from the first 5-6-7 or how ever many Benghazi hearings. Yeah .... Hillary was wanting to get to the bottom of it so bad she refused to give up her newly discovered email server till the FBI came to collect it.



It was not bad judgment on her part at all. She was just working with what she had and what she was told at the time. But hey, like it or not that's how it works.

Nobody else had a 'personal email server' and nobody told her to set a up 'personal email server'. It was piss poor judgement on her behalf and could have or even did endanger national security. But hey, like it or not that's how it works.

JVV
01-24-2016, 06:15 PM
Doesn't sound bad at all in that Hillary is wanting to get to the bottom of this just as anyone else and they are helping to find the answers.



It was not bad judgment on her part at all. She was just working with what she had and what she was told at the time. But hey, like it or not that's how it works.



hillary-ous

HoneyBadger
01-24-2016, 07:41 PM
Yet another "they COULD or MIGHT have done it" moment. Obviously baseless claim. There's nothing here either.


Highly classified and sensitive information has been found on Hillary's server. The bitch broke the law and she knew her actions were illegal.

Tahuyaman
01-24-2016, 07:56 PM
"The FBI is investigating whether members of Hillary Clinton’s inner circle “cut and pasted” material from the government’s classified network so that it could be sent to her private e-mail address, former State Department security officials say."

"Clinton and her top aides had access to a Pentagon-run classified network that goes up to the Secret level, as well as a separate system used for Top Secret communications.

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send *e-mails outside the government.

Somehow, highly classified information from SIPRNet, as well as even the super-secure JWICS, jumped from those closed systems to the open system"

"To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”

“It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified e-mail or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal e-mail account,” said Raymond Fournier, a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent. “That’s no less than a two-conscious-step process.”

http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/

That's a lot of nails in that thar coffin.

Do you think this makes any difference to the partisan hacks?


Yet another "they COULD or MIGHT have done it" moment. Obviously baseless claim. There's nothing here either.



Despite republican claims, there is no FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/ (http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/)

The Republicans who did ‘exactly what Hillary did’
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...at-hillary-did (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-who-did-exactly-what-hillary-did)



Well isn't it obvious? They're working to find out things FOR Hillary but not conducting an investigation into her! Why is that so hard to understand?

obviously not

Tahuyaman
01-24-2016, 08:08 PM
Well isn't it obvious? They're working to find out things FOR Hillary but not conducting an investigation into her! Why is that so hard to understand?
TrueBlue is actually kind of half right here. The FBI is conducting an investigation, but the justice department is the partisan entity trying to manipulate the evidence "for" Hillary Clinton.

Tahuyaman
01-24-2016, 08:11 PM
Doesn't sound bad at all in that Hillary is wanting to get to the bottom of this just as anyone else and they are helping to find the answers.


Now that is the most unique spin I've seen on this issue. Isn't TrueBlue ever embarrassed about his comments?

Mark III
01-24-2016, 08:55 PM
"The FBI is investigating whether members of Hillary Clinton’s inner circle “cut and pasted” material from the government’s classified network so that it could be sent to her private e-mail address, former State Department security officials say."

"Clinton and her top aides had access to a Pentagon-run classified network that goes up to the Secret level, as well as a separate system used for Top Secret communications.

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send *e-mails outside the government.

Somehow, highly classified information from SIPRNet, as well as even the super-secure JWICS, jumped from those closed systems to the open system"

"To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”

“It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified e-mail or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal e-mail account,” said Raymond Fournier, a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent. “That’s no less than a two-conscious-step process.”

http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/

That's a lot of nails in that thar coffin.

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Peter1469
01-24-2016, 08:57 PM
lol

The boot licks are getting a black tongue today!

Mark III
01-24-2016, 09:01 PM
lol

The boot licks are getting a black tongue today!

Have you people no shame ?

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi

hanger4
01-24-2016, 09:26 PM
Have you people no shame ?

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi
And this has what to do with Benghazi Mark III ??

BTW the shame is your denial.

hanger4
01-24-2016, 09:30 PM
http://yxhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yawning__1220901657_91071.jpg

Eyes wide shut.

Have you people no shame ??

Dr. Who
01-24-2016, 11:16 PM
Doesn't sound bad at all in that Hillary is wanting to get to the bottom of this just as anyone else and they are helping to find the answers.



It was not bad judgment on her part at all. She was just working with what she had and what she was told at the time. But hey, like it or not that's how it works.

You are acting like this was just a matter of where she put her keys and the FBI are helping her to find them. She broke protocol. She put state-sensitive material into an insecure server. Whether or not that resulted in enemies becoming privy to sensitive government material that may or may not have put people's lives at risk, it is still a breach and it was irresponsible. Why did she do it? Because having to go to a secure government site to read email was inconvenient. Do you really want a President who makes decisions based on what happens to be convenient? Her job as Secretary of State was not an easy one, but she accepted the appointment as well as the rules that were incumbent with the role.

Tahuyaman
01-24-2016, 11:51 PM
The notion that Hillary Cliton is wanting to cooperate with the investigation in order to determine how such a breach of security can happen is nonsensical. I don't know how even her most zealous supporters could believe that is true? The idea insults the average person's intelligence.

Dr. Who
01-25-2016, 12:16 AM
The notion that Hillary Cliton is wanting to cooperate with the investigation in order to determine how such a breach of security can happen is nonsensical. I don't know how even her most zealous supporters could believe that is true? The idea insults the average person's intelligence.
I have never believed that these issues would ever dissuade her most ardent supporters. While you and I are on opposite sides of the political fence, I do believe that we both place value in integrity. These days that may be more important than actual political points of view.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2016, 12:37 AM
I have never believed that these issues would ever dissuade her most ardent supporters. While you and I are on opposite sides of the political fence, I do believe that we both place value in integrity. These days that may be more important than actual political points of view.


I agree. I believe there's a big difference in honest and dishonest disagreement. I can respect honest disagreement.

Claiming that Hillary Clinton wants to get to the bottom of this issue is being dishonest.

Dr. Who
01-25-2016, 12:50 AM
I agree. I believe there's a big difference in honest and dishonest disagreement. I can respect honest disagreement.

Claiming that Hillary Clinton wants to get to the bottom of this issue is being dishonest.
I agree. I find nothing genuine about her. She is an opportunistic politician who will say anything to get elected. I don't believe that she has any genuine values. Everything she says is calculated to win votes. Her supporters should spend some time researching her.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2016, 01:02 AM
I agree. I find nothing genuine about her. She is an opportunistic politician who will say anything to get elected. I don't believe that she has any genuine values. Everything she says is calculated to win votes. Her supporters should spend some time researching her.

I suspect her supporters know that just as well as you, but for whatever reason they don't care.

Peter1469
01-25-2016, 04:24 AM
You are acting like this was just a matter of where she put her keys and the FBI are helping her to find them. She broke protocol. She put state-sensitive material into an insecure server. Whether or not that resulted in enemies becoming privy to sensitive government material that may or may not have put people's lives at risk, it is still a breach and it was irresponsible. Why did she do it? Because having to go to a secure government site to read email was inconvenient. Do you really want a President who makes decisions based on what happens to be convenient? Her job as Secretary of State was not an easy one, but she accepted the appointment as well as the rules that were incumbent with the role.

Probably less for convenience and more to circumvent the records retention laws.

Mac-7
01-25-2016, 01:49 PM
I agree. I find nothing genuine about her. She is an opportunistic politician who will say anything to get elected. I don't believe that she has any genuine values. Everything she says is calculated to win votes. Her supporters should spend some time researching her.

But no worse than cruz?

Just flip a coin and either one is ok to the "principled" class.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2016, 01:52 PM
Really?

Professor Peabody
01-26-2016, 06:59 AM
Despite republican claims, there is no FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/ (http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/there-is-no-fbi-investigation-of-hillary-clinton/22894/)

The Republicans who did ‘exactly what Hillary did’
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...at-hillary-did (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-who-did-exactly-what-hillary-did)

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More crapola from anonymous kook blogs. Do they report on alien abductions too?