The 'New' GOP

[Smartmouthwoman]

http://www.politicalforum.com/images/oldicons/icon17.gif The 'New' GOP


Since the only strategy Obama has is to attack the Republicans... Lord knows he can't run on his own sorry record... it's a good time to look at how the Republican Party is changing.

I heard Laura Ingraham say tonight, "This should be a 'gimme' election. Obama is so bad, if the Republicans can't pull this off, they need to all quit and be replaced."

Amen, Laura. That's what I think, too.

Here's the thing about the Republican Party. It's changing as we speak. I know there are many posters here who were too young to really know what 9/11 was all about... but surely everyone is old enough to remember the great shellacking of 2010?

Yeah, yeah, it never happened... just a mid-term election, didn't mean anything. Wasn't a declaration against Barack Obama and the Democrats.

How stupid are you people?

The Republican Party will either move right or get voted out. Now there's where your third party might come in... but not until conservatives have given up on the GOP and that's not happening. Especially after we saw the power of the vote in the mid-terms of 2010.

Join up or get left behind. Your choice, folks.


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[Goldie Locks]

I'm in!!!!!!!!!!

[Deadwood]

I agree.

As much as I am soft on Romney, the GOP is far from dead.

Obama is running scared, his troops are obviously worried about their soft support and know the cream of their support is dispirited and angry, maybe not angry enough to vote GOP, but angry enough to stay home on election day.

These are not the signs of a dying party.

[Cigar]

Yea Rush had some words of encouragement today :)

[Captain Obvious]

I haven't done it yet but I'm changing my voting status to Independent.

Fuck the new (and old) GOP.

[Canadianeye]

http://www.politicalforum.com/images/oldicons/icon17.gif The 'New' GOP

Since the only strategy Obama has is to attack the Republicans... Lord knows he can't run on his own sorry record... it's a good time to look at how the Republican Party is changing.

I heard Laura Ingraham say tonight, "This should be a 'gimme' election. Obama is so bad, if the Republicans can't pull this off, they need to all quit and be replaced."

Amen, Laura. That's what I think, too.

Here's the thing about the Republican Party. It's changing as we speak. I know there are many posters here who were too young to really know what 9/11 was all about... but surely everyone is old enough to remember the great shellacking of 2010?

Yeah, yeah, it never happened... just a mid-term election, didn't mean anything. Wasn't a declaration against Barack Obama and the Democrats.

How stupid are you people?

The Republican Party will either move right or get voted out. Now there's where your third party might come in... but not until conservatives have given up on the GOP and that's not happening. Especially after we saw the power of the vote in the mid-terms of 2010.

Join up or get left behind. Your choice, folks.


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I have a fair amount of experience with 3rd party, 4th party, 5th party and even 6th party politics. It isn't easy. Coalitions get formed, even amongst those whose platforms are radically against those they align with for political convience. Nothing ever gets done, or in the very least, an almost endless stall pattern amounting to the same result of never getting anything done. Think along the lines of 10 Walker Wisconsin recall votes.

In my country they call them Non Confidence Votes, but it doesn't matter the name or the technique. It bogs action for political gain...and then the other 2 or 3 or 5 stall out the next quasi top dog...til they get some piece of the pie they are clamoring for.

Your country has withstood so many of the socialist pitfalls of other nations. You have hung onto your rule of law, constitutional republic, with a 2 party system (and if I remember correctly) an article 4? mandating republicanism as a mandated requirement. This was incredible foresight on your founders.

You have a been given a gift as far as I'm concerned regarding the TEA Party. They are not an official party, and that unofficial position attacking and correcting BOTH parties on behalf of the best interests of your country is a boon. It is a grass roots movement of both conservatives and libertarians, with a few real Dems subscribing to the principle core values as well.

I hope they never form a 3rd party, or any 3rd party for that matter. The strength of your nation...that has made you resistant to the demise of so many others, is in not jumping to a niche concept of many parties that rapes you slowly from the worth that made you stronger than the rest.

[GCF]

How stupid are you people?

The Republican Party will either move right or get voted out. Now there's where your third party might come in... but not until conservatives have given up on the GOP and that's not happening. Especially after we saw the power of the vote in the mid-terms of 2010.

Join up or get left behind. Your choice, folks.



Hummm, don't know do take this as a threat or an act of desperation? Yet your sentiment is diffently climbing in chatter all over the place! Yet I thought Clinton could of been beaten if we didn't chose Dole to be the Banter Carrier in the second Clinton election yet here we are again, yet things are soooooo baaaddddd even one of the worst the GOP could of put up, Romney can an should be able to win this election!

Yet the election is only the first hurdle! What happens after Romney wins, exactly what mandate will he have? Eliminate Obamacare, well in the last few days we have seen him waffling on that! Downsize our Military? No, don't expect that! From his talking points I don't think Romney is in anyway gonna agree to a reshaped military to achieve massive savings. Without that, it will be difficult to get reform on SS or Medicare.

SS, Medicare an Military, all three needs to be revamped yet I just don't see how the Republicans can get that done politically unless they run on those issues. Yet they are not, so they can't go to the People an declare a "Mandate"! So you please tell me, how are they or we gonna stop an reverse the Debt Clock? I'm assuming around 20 trillion in debt the interest will swallow up nearly or over 100% of the federal budget, "Game Over". That is assuming the interest can be kept to artificial lows, if interest rates go up then its game over much much sooner.

[Hillbilly]

With all respect , I just don't agree.

Romney is a 'carpetbagger' .

I'd maybe vote for him for 'dog-catcher' or county commissioner , but as Potus ? No way .

Obama has done things I don't totally agree with either , but in my opinion , he's earned the right to a 2nd term .

Obama can't win without NC , and I've signed up to be on his 'team' here in NC . I'll be traveling all over WNC to speak in his behalf .

I look forward to hearing from y'all , friend and foe alike , we'll just have to hash it out :-)









http://www.politicalforum.com/images/oldicons/icon17.gif The 'New' GOP
Since the only strategy Obama has is to attack the Republicans... Lord knows he can't run on his own sorry record... it's a good time to look at how the Republican Party is changing.

I heard Laura Ingraham say tonight, "This should be a 'gimme' election. Obama is so bad, if the Republicans can't pull this off, they need to all quit and be replaced."

Amen, Laura. That's what I think, too.

Here's the thing about the Republican Party. It's changing as we speak. I know there are many posters here who were too young to really know what 9/11 was all about... but surely everyone is old enough to remember the great shellacking of 2010?

Yeah, yeah, it never happened... just a mid-term election, didn't mean anything. Wasn't a declaration against Barack Obama and the Democrats.

How stupid are you people?

The Republican Party will either move right or get voted out. Now there's where your third party might come in... but not until conservatives have given up on the GOP and that's not happening. Especially after we saw the power of the vote in the mid-terms of 2010.

Join up or get left behind. Your choice, folks.


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[GCF]

With all respect , I just don't agree.

Romney is a 'carpetbagger' .

I'd maybe vote for him for 'dog-catcher' or county commissioner , but as Potus ? No way .

Obama has done things I don't totally agree with either , but in my opinion , he's earned the right to a 2nd term .

Obama can't win without NC , and I've signed up to be on his 'team' here in NC . I'll be traveling all over WNC to speak in his behalf .

I look forward to hearing from y'all , friend and foe alike , we'll just have to hash it out :-)

I don't see any chance for Obama in NC an WNC! No way, you gonna meet some resistance IMHO. Let me know if you get over in the Bryson or Asheville area, might be worth a trip thru the Smokies to see the small crowds you can managed to get! Or better yet maybe Blowing Rock area, been a while since I trip on down the Blue Ridge Parkway, I know the long way but sure is purdy this time of year, weather cooling down an all.

[Canadianeye]

With all respect , I just don't agree.

Romney is a 'carpetbagger' .

I'd maybe vote for him for 'dog-catcher' or county commissioner , but as Potus ? No way .

Obama has done things I don't totally agree with either , but in my opinion , he's earned the right to a 2nd term .

Obama can't win without NC , and I've signed up to be on his 'team' here in NC . I'll be traveling all over WNC to speak in his behalf .

I look forward to hearing from y'all , friend and foe alike , we'll just have to hash it out :-)

You know I like you Hillbilly. Always have. But to me a flawed ideology at some point has to have people with the courage of conviction to address that issue. I won't steer too off course here of the OP, however, in Canada we have the same political alignment as your country. Cons and Libs, with a whole bunch of other lefties in the mix.

Now, here is something that might be of interest to you. We have Progressive Conservatives. Your progressives mostly hide in the leftist camp, though not completely. McCain, as an example, is a progressive...but mostly left for the most part in your country.

OK. Abortion issue. We used to have the 1st tri mester same as you guys. Now....actual Canadian law, you can kill up until the first breath is drawn. 9 months, 8 months etc. This is the danger of progressives, and that is who is steering your country. Their ideology. Their direction. Their end result for a nation. They told us it here....it will never, ever get there....but it DID. It is LAW now. Beware. These aren't idle words of warning HB.

[Smartmouthwoman]

Hummm, don't know do take this as a threat or an act of desperation? Yet your sentiment is diffently climbing in chatter all over the place! Yet I thought Clinton could of been beaten if we didn't chose Dole to be the Banter Carrier in the second Clinton election yet here we are again, yet things are soooooo baaaddddd even one of the worst the GOP could of put up, Romney can an should be able to win this election!

Yet the election is only the first hurdle! What happens after Romney wins, exactly what mandate will he have? Eliminate Obamacare, well in the last few days we have seen him waffling on that! Downsize our Military? No, don't expect that! From his talking points I don't think Romney is in anyway gonna agree to a reshaped military to achieve massive savings. Without that, it will be difficult to get reform on SS or Medicare.

SS, Medicare an Military, all three needs to be revamped yet I just don't see how the Republicans can get that done politically unless they run on those issues. Yet they are not, so they can't go to the People an declare a "Mandate"! So you please tell me, how are they or we gonna stop an reverse the Debt Clock? I'm assuming around 20 trillion in debt the interest will swallow up nearly or over 100% of the federal budget, "Game Over". That is assuming the interest can be kept to artificial lows, if interest rates go up then its game over much much sooner.

Romney's agenda couldn't be simpler and he's willing to be judged on his ability to improve these important numbers. Where's Obama's scorecard? Oh yeah that's right... nothing is ever his fault. I forgot.

http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/romney-2012-infographic-job-plan2.jpg

[Cigar]

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[Smartmouthwoman]

Yeah, if you're a member of the UAW and make $45/hr working as a janitor for GM, Obama's been very, very good to you.

Or... if you're a stock market mogul with money to throw away playing the odds... Barack is your man.

For average everyday American workers, his presidency has been disasterous. The soaring price of gasoline and food alone has eaten into the middle-class' paychecks. And that's not even taking into consideration unemp or the record numbers of people living below the poverty level.

Obama's been very good to the 1%. Not so much for working class Americans.

Thx for posting the charts that prove that statement, Cigar.

[Cigar]

Yeah, if you're a member of the UAW and make $45/hr working as a janitor for GM, Obama's been very, very good to you.

Or... if you're a stock market mogul with money to throw away playing the odds... Barack is your man.

For average everyday American workers, his presidency has been disasterous. The soaring price of gasoline and food alone has eaten into the middle-class' paychecks. And that's not even taking into consideration unemp or the record numbers of people living below the poverty level.

Obama's been very good to the 1%. Not so much for working class Americans.

Thx for posting the charts that prove that statement, Cigar.

I'm sure you have a link proving that a member of the UAW who makes $45/hr working as a janitor for GM?

Or are you just talking out of your ass?

[Mainecoons]

You left out the bankster fraudsters. They've done very well under Obama.

[Smartmouthwoman]

I'm sure you have a link proving that a member of the UAW who makes $45/hr working as a janitor for GM?

Or are you just talking out of your ass?


Close personal friend. I've known him since he went to work for GM in 1977. He now works at the regional parts depot and because he has 35 yrs seniority, he can choose whatever job he wants... and he likes being janitor because he can hide from the supvs.

All GM employees with high seniority make between $40-$45 an hour... and work an average of 10-12 hrs OT per week. My friend often works on holidays because he enjoys making $120 an hr. Additionally, while I was traveling with his wife this summer, he called her with the good news his $7,000 bonus had hit the bank. She treated us all to dinner thanks to his good fortune of having a president who protects HIS job at the expense of millions who'd be happy to have half his salary.

Are you really that sheltered that you don't know the salaries of GM's union workers?

My friend pulls down over $100K a year, thx to OT. Lives in a nice house with a pool, drives a '12 'vette. Life is very very good for GM workers. I'm happy for my friends. You should be, too.

[Cigar]

Close personal friend. I've known him since he went to work for GM in 1977. He now works at the regional parts depot and because he has 35 yrs seniority, he can choose whatever job he wants... and he likes being janitor because he can hide from the supvs.

All GM employees with high seniority make between $40-$45 an hour... and work an average of 10-12 hrs OT per week. My friend often works on holidays because he enjoys making $120 an hr. Additionally, while I was traveling with his wife this summer, he called her with the good news his $7,000 bonus had hit the bank. She treated us all to dinner thanks to his good fortune of having a president who protects HIS job at the expense of millions who'd be happy to have half his salary.

Are you really that sheltered that you don't know the salaries of GM's union workers?

My friend pulls down over $100K a year, thx to OT. Lives in a nice house with a pool, drives a '12 'vette. Life is very very good for GM workers. I'm happy for my friends. You should be, too.

So your close personal friend, who chose to work as a janitor and hides from Supervisors while stealing $100k from GM. Naturally that's an indictment on all General Motors Employees. Please tell us more about people who are your friends.

Obviously your close personal friend is Black.

[bladimz]

Hummm, don't know do take this as a threat or an act of desperation? Yet your sentiment is diffently climbing in chatter all over the place! Yet I thought Clinton could of been beaten if we didn't chose Dole to be the Banter Carrier in the second Clinton election yet here we are again, yet things are soooooo baaaddddd even one of the worst the GOP could of put up, Romney can an should be able to win this election!

Yet the election is only the first hurdle! What happens after Romney wins, exactly what mandate will he have? Eliminate Obamacare, well in the last few days we have seen him waffling on that! Downsize our Military? No, don't expect that! From his talking points I don't think Romney is in anyway gonna agree to a reshaped military to achieve massive savings. Without that, it will be difficult to get reform on SS or Medicare.

SS, Medicare an Military, all three needs to be revamped yet I just don't see how the Republicans can get that done politically unless they run on those issues. Yet they are not, so they can't go to the People an declare a "Mandate"! So you please tell me, how are they or we gonna stop an reverse the Debt Clock? I'm assuming around 20 trillion in debt the interest will swallow up nearly or over 100% of the federal budget, "Game Over". That is assuming the interest can be kept to artificial lows, if interest rates go up then its game over much much sooner.
What happens if Romney wins this election? Forget all the other issues for the moment: If he wins, we will be at war with Iran within the first 2 years. Count on it. Bibi wants America to push Iran up against the wall, to do his dirty work. Bibi and Mitt are good friends.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/146553065.html?refer=y

Mitt, not having a particularly good grasp of foreign policy and intricacies, will "help out a buddy".

[bladimz]

Romney's agenda couldn't be simpler and he's willing to be judged on his ability to improve these important numbers. Where's Obama's scorecard? Oh yeah that's right... nothing is ever his fault. I forgot.

http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/romney-2012-infographic-job-plan2.jpg
Wow! Awesome Mitt Romney site-generated graphic! If it's on his website, it must be true!

[bladimz]

You left out the bankster fraudsters. They've done very well under Obama.
Make no mistake: the bankster frauds will do very well under anyone who moves into their White House.

[Trinnity]

You have a been given a gift as far as I'm concerned regarding the TEA Party. They are not an official party, and that unofficial position attacking and correcting BOTH parties on behalf of the best interests of your country is a boon. It is a grass roots movement of both conservatives and libertarians, with a few real Dems subscribing to the principle core values as well.

I hope they never form a 3rd party, or any 3rd party for that matter. The strength of your nation...that has made you resistant to the demise of so many others, is in not jumping to a niche concept of many parties that rapes you slowly from the worth that made you stronger than the rest.How insightful and profound. Yes, the Tea Party is a gift and it's not going away.

It reflects the rise in libertarianism, fundamental fiscal conservatism and limited government that is the true ideal of the Founding Fathers and the core of the Constitution. The spirit and ideal of America is the greatest vehicle of individual freedom that has ever existed on Earth, and it our greatest hope of overcoming the hate and evil that is a component in the mind on mankind.

[Trinnity]

Obviously your close personal friend is Black.Seriously you had to play the race card out of the blue? Dude, that's just sick.

[Smartmouthwoman]

What happens if Romney wins this election? Forget all the other issues for the moment: If he wins, we will be at war with Iran within the first 2 years. Count on it. Bibi wants America to push Iran up against the wall, to do his dirty work. Bibi and Mitt are good friends.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/146553065.html?refer=y

Mitt, not having a particularly good grasp of foreign policy and intricacies, will "help out a buddy".

No matter who's in the WH, they don't have control over what Iran does.

However, refusing to meet with the Israeli leader because he's meeting with David Letterman on that day is soooooo Obama's style when it comes to foreign policy. Sit back and watch, Blad, as it all comes falling down on Obama's head during the next months. His avoidance policy won't work.

[Smartmouthwoman]

Wow! Awesome Mitt Romney site-generated graphic! If it's on his website, it must be true!

Funny, but barackobama.com doesn't seem to include Obama's plans for crawling outta this mess he's created. Maybe you could find a link to his Accountability Scorecard and post it for us, huh?

[Smartmouthwoman]

So your close personal friend, who chose to work as a janitor and hides from Supervisors while stealing $100k from GM. Naturally that's an indictment on all General Motors Employees. Please tell us more about people who are your friends.

Obviously your close personal friend is Black.

Steals? He doesn't steal... he's a union man and the UAW has his back.

You really are naive about the ways of the world, Cigar. Have you ever had a real job for a real company?

I think not.

[Smartmouthwoman]

Seriously you had to play the race card out of the blue? Dude, that's just sick.

Obviously, it's all he's got. When all else fails...

[bladimz]

The Tea Party is the darling of the conservative movement. It's forcing the GOP to lean further to the right, of course. If this is the "New" GOP, traditional republican members will jump ship like rats from a sinking ship.

I'd much rather see the OWS movement continue its agenda targeting the monied interests that use our government and our country to serve as their butlers and housekeepers. Naturally there are people who either refuse or just can't wrap their heads around that simple idea, so they just blow the movement off as a bunch of lazy, jobless hippies who don't bathe marching around and vandalizing stuff. In essence, they will read an article about a few protesters breaking some windows or keying some cars and make their conclusions based on that. To be expected. It's remarkable to consider that the OWS is not an American organization, but is in fact, a world-wide movement.

On one hand you have a group that is working on behalf of a group of people who want their specific ideology working for them inside the beltway. (No matter that once Tea Party-backed politicians win their elections, they soon assimilate themselves into the congressional network, enjoying the perks and prizes that come with their offices). On the other hand, you have a non-partisan, world-wide movement that is united in an effort to free their respective governments from the grip of international corporatocracy, giving them the freedom and the duty to serve their people first.

[bladimz]

Funny, but barackobama.com doesn't seem to include Obama's plans for crawling outta this mess he's created. Maybe you could find a link to his Accountability Scorecard and post it for us, huh?
I guess i could, but i really don't think he wants or needs to create a "scorecard". By the way, you and i both know he did not create "this mess". Not unless he was the real president when most people thought that Reagan was POTUS.

No, i think that Romney.com designed that graphic because they are running pretty scared and know that an election that they should win hands down is still not looking good for them.

Maybe you should contact barackobama.com and suggest they create a scorecard, because Romney's site did. That'd be really awesome!

[Smartmouthwoman]

I guess i could, but i really don't think he wants or needs to create a "scorecard". By the way, you and i both know he did not create "this mess". Not unless he was the real president when most people thought that Reagan was POTUS.

No, i think that Romney.com designed that graphic because they are running pretty scared and know that an election that they should win hands down is still not looking good for them.

Maybe you should contact barackobama.com and suggest they create a scorecard, because Romney's site did. That'd be really awesome!

As your post stated, Obama doesn't take the blame for anything, so asking for a scorecard would be a wasted effort.

Just saw on the elevator news that personal income is down another 1.5%. Worst it's been since 1980. I guess that's Bush's fault too, huh?

[Trinnity]

The Tea Party is the darling of the conservative movement. It's forcing the GOP to lean further to the right, of course. If this is the "New" GOP, traditional republican members will jump ship like rats from a sinking ship.
You have no clue what the TP is about. It's about fiscal restraint and adherence to the Constitution. It's very libertarian in the fiscal sense and it's not going away. People don't want a bloated, debt heavy, power grabbing, Liberty sucking, over-regulating, federal govt. It's not what this country is all about. You want full on socialism? Move to France. They gave up caring about Liberty long ago.

And btw, until we face the failure and burden of social security et al, we will continue to sink in debt.

[Hillbilly]

I don't see any chance for Obama in NC an WNC! No way, you gonna meet some resistance IMHO. Let me know if you get over in the Bryson or Asheville area, might be worth a trip thru the Smokies to see the small crowds you can managed to get! Or better yet maybe Blowing Rock area, been a while since I trip on down the Blue Ridge Parkway, I know the long way but sure is purdy this time of year, weather cooling down an all.


You know I like you Hillbilly. Always have. But to me a flawed ideology at some point has to have people with the courage of conviction to address that issue. I won't steer too off course here of the OP, however, in Canada we have the same political alignment as your country. Cons and Libs, with a whole bunch of other lefties in the mix.

Now, here is something that might be of interest to you. We have Progressive Conservatives. Your progressives mostly hide in the leftist camp, though not completely. McCain, as an example, is a progressive...but mostly left for the most part in your country.

OK. Abortion issue. We used to have the 1st tri mester same as you guys. Now....actual Canadian law, you can kill up until the first breath is drawn. 9 months, 8 months etc. This is the danger of progressives, and that is who is steering your country. Their ideology. Their direction. Their end result for a nation. They told us it here....it will never, ever get there....but it DID. It is LAW now. Beware. These aren't idle words of warning HB.

Thanks for the reply , GCF and Canadianeye .

The schedule is being made even as I type this , so I hope to see you in that small crowd of folks , lol , you and I may be the only ones there .

People have their own ideology , their own life experiences and beliefs , I have mine , you have yours , I'm ok with that , I hope you as well .

I believe that we have more that draws us together than what divides us . mostly , what divides us is the daily deluge of crap we see on TV in 30 second bytes . that's why I want to meet people eye-to-eye , I explain how I feel , and then listen to how you feel , even if it takes all day and all night , when we part , we will have an understanding that we have made our own selves , and not what we've seen on TV or heard on the radio .

[GCF]

Romney's agenda couldn't be simpler and he's willing to be judged on his ability to improve these important numbers. Where's Obama's scorecard? Oh yeah that's right... nothing is ever his fault. I forgot.



His agenda is basically unknown to me, if you know what it is please share. Yet I now hear him talking about saving aspects of Obamacare, he needs to clarify his position. Yet he has taken no big steps on a Mandate type of stance so he goes in with none! Once elected, which I'm sure he will win, he will always be the "Other" as in anyone but Obama! Even if the GOP pick up enough senate seats to achieve 50 with VP for tiebreaker the minority of the Senate can create havoc an stop most everything.

Yet you do have one thing in Romney corner, his ability to lead an bring concensus where Obama totally failed or lets just be honest didn't see the value in it. So really if you take a subjective look at the landscape Romney will be facing, is one that marginal change would be a monumental task. Yet there is enough progressive Rep Senators to make the Senate baiscally a Democratic controlled Senate.

So you tell me, outside of hyperventalliting about nonsense an lets hear what you think he'll be able to achieve as POTUS? See, most can not make a sound case for Romney outside of he isn't Obama, be nice to have a candidate one could make a case for.

[Mainecoons]

No budget, no plan to put people to work other than "stimulus" to keep government and union jobs. We see how well that's working, Barry.

[Smartmouthwoman]

Romney's agenda couldn't be simpler and he's willing to be judged on his ability to improve these important numbers. Where's Obama's scorecard? Oh yeah that's right... nothing is ever his fault. I forgot.

http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/romney-2012-infographic-job-plan2.jpg


His agenda is basically unknown to me, if you know what it is please share. Yet I now hear him talking about saving aspects of Obamacare, he needs to clarify his position. Yet he has taken no big steps on a Mandate type of stance so he goes in with none! Once elected, which I'm sure he will win, he will always be the "Other" as in anyone but Obama! Even if the GOP pick up enough senate seats to achieve 50 with VP for tiebreaker the minority of the Senate can create havoc an stop most everything.

Yet you do have one thing in Romney corner, his ability to lead an bring concensus where Obama totally failed or lets just be honest didn't see the value in it. So really if you take a subjective look at the landscape Romney will be facing, is one that marginal change would be a monumental task. Yet there is enough progressive Rep Senators to make the Senate baiscally a Democratic controlled Senate.

So you tell me, outside of hyperventalliting about nonsense an lets hear what you think he'll be able to achieve as POTUS? See, most can not make a sound case for Romney outside of he isn't Obama, be nice to have a candidate one could make a case for.

I'm not sure how much more we can expect from a mortal being than to achieve improvement in the 6 areas he outlines above. We'd all like a play-by-play script of what a Romney presidency will be like but we didn't get one w/Obama and we'll not get one w/Romney. He said he will repeal Obamacare day one, although there are some aspects he's willing to keep. That's pretty specific for a politician.

Romney is a dull businessman... not a glitzy rockstar. That's what makes him the most appealing to me. I've had enough glitz in the WH to last a lifetime with King & Queen Obama.