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Cigar
02-17-2016, 08:50 AM
President Ronald Reagan had strong words about confirming his final Supreme Court nominee in 1988 (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485578/-President-Ronald-Reagan-had-strong-words-about-confirming-his-final-Supreme-Court-nominee-in-1988)

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President Ronald Reagan, patron saint of the modern Republican Party, repeatedly urged the United States Senate to confirm his Supreme Court nominee Anthony M. Kennedy. The year was 1988, the final year of his presidency.
From his remarks on January 19, 1988: (https://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/011988a.htm)


In the year ahead, we're not going to be on the defensive, shoring up problems and answering our critics. We are moving forward, and I have no doubt that when we look back 1988 will be a year of great accomplishment toward our goals. This is the year when Judge Anthony Kennedy will be confirmed and the Supreme Court will again be brought up to full strength. The Federal judiciary is too important to be made a political football. I would hope, and the American people should expect, not only for Judge Kennedy's confirmation but for the Senate to get to work and act on 27 other judicial nominations that have been left in limbo for quite awhile now.

On January 25, 1988, President Reagan again urged the Senate to confirm Justice Kennedy, this time during this State of the Union address to Congress:



Current Senate Republicans can’t ignore the wise words of their own patron saint, can they? :huh:



Well .... ? :huh:

Cigar
02-17-2016, 10:21 AM
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maineman
02-17-2016, 10:45 AM
the demigod's words are always sacrosanct.....

except when they aren't, of course.

Chris
02-17-2016, 11:07 AM
OK, so you two now accept Reagan's words, I'll assume you accept this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYJS80MgYA

maineman
02-17-2016, 11:10 AM
I never said that I accepted his words as sacrosanct. He's not MY demigod.

Chris
02-17-2016, 11:23 AM
Well, damn, there goes the sought after hypocrisy right down the drain.

Cigar
02-17-2016, 11:25 AM
No one ever said I thought he was patron saint ... so ...

Mac-7
02-17-2016, 11:48 AM
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President Ronald Reagan had strong words about confirming his final Supreme Court nominee in 1988 (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485578/-President-Ronald-Reagan-had-strong-words-about-confirming-his-final-Supreme-Court-nominee-in-1988)

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President Ronald Reagan, patron saint of the modern Republican Party, repeatedly urged the United States Senate to confirm his Supreme Court nominee Anthony M. Kennedy. The year was 1988, the final year of his presidency.
From his remarks on January 19, 1988: (https://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/011988a.htm)



On January 25, 1988, President Reagan again urged the Senate to confirm Justice Kennedy, this time during this State of the Union address to Congress:



Current Senate Republicans can’t ignore the wise words of their own patron saint, can they? :huh:



Well .... ? :huh:

Who is the target audience of this OP?

It must be liberal democrats like yourself because the repubs and used-to-be repubs ll say no to any obumer nominee.

The words of Reagan 30 years ago are not going to make any difference today

Peter1469
02-17-2016, 05:10 PM
Can you name the two nominees that the Senate racked over and tossed out prior to Kennedy?

Don
02-17-2016, 05:28 PM
Orin Hatch and Robert Bork.

Tahuyaman
02-17-2016, 06:42 PM
President Ronald Reagan had strong words about confirming his final Supreme Court nominee in 1988 (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485578/-President-Ronald-Reagan-had-strong-words-about-confirming-his-final-Supreme-Court-nominee-in-1988)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/209890/story_image/GettyImages-50928104.jpg?1455558562

President Ronald Reagan, patron saint of the modern Republican Party, repeatedly urged the United States Senate to confirm his Supreme Court nominee Anthony M. Kennedy. The year was 1988, the final year of his presidency.
From his remarks on January 19, 1988: (https://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/011988a.htm)



On January 25, 1988, President Reagan again urged the Senate to confirm Justice Kennedy, this time during this State of the Union address to Congress:



Current Senate Republicans can’t ignore the wise words of their own patron saint, can they? :huh:



Well .... ? :huh:

actually, it was 1987 when Reagan nominated him. The senate sat on the nomination until 1988 thinking they could just stall and deny the nomination.

Tahuyaman
02-17-2016, 06:43 PM
Orin Hatch and Robert Bork.

What they did the Robert Bork is indefensible.

Don
02-17-2016, 06:47 PM
What they did the Robert Bork is indefensible.

I agree. I think president Obama should make his nomination and unless its someone that the non democrats agree is the right person for the job they should just say why they don't think so and vote them down. That would be constitutional and a lot less smelly than what the dems did to Bork.

Peter1469
02-17-2016, 06:48 PM
Orin Hatch and Robert Bork.

Orin Hatch was never nominated. Bork and Douglas Ginsburg were and were treated extremely badly by the Senate Dems. Now the dems are acting like whatever will happen to Obama's nominee will be the first time ever.....

Tahuyaman
02-17-2016, 06:52 PM
Orin Hatch was never nominated. Bork and Douglas Ginsburg were and were treated extremely badly by the Senate Dems. Now the dems are acting like whatever will happen to Obama's nominee will be the first time ever.....

refresh my memory. Wasn't Ginsburg the nominee they crucified because he smoked marijuana as a teenager?

my how times have changed. Now we have a president who wrote in his autobiography that he spent a couple of years hanging out on the beach, skipping school and "doing drugs enthusiastically".

Don
02-17-2016, 07:01 PM
Orin Hatch was never nominated. Bork and Douglas Ginsburg were and were treated extremely badly by the Senate Dems. Now the dems are acting like whatever will happen to Obama's nominee will be the first time ever.....

You're right. I missed Ginsburg. Hatch was considered but he had voted for a pay raise for the Justices and there is something in the Constitution about not qualifying for an office that you voted a pay raise for. Something like that anyway.

domer76
02-17-2016, 07:10 PM
refresh my memory. Wasn't Ginsburg the nominee they crucified because he smoked marijuana as a teenager?

my how times have changed. Now we have a president who wrote in his autobiography that he spent a couple of years hanging out on the beach, skipping school and "doing drugs enthusiastically".

Kinda speaks to subjective, rather than absolute morality, doesn't it?

Chris
02-17-2016, 07:49 PM
Kinda speaks to subjective, rather than absolute morality, doesn't it?

Speaks to fallible man struggling to discover and choose absolute morality.

Peter1469
02-17-2016, 08:00 PM
refresh my memory. Wasn't Ginsburg the nominee they crucified because he smoked marijuana as a teenager?

my how times have changed. Now we have a president who wrote in his autobiography that he spent a couple of years hanging out on the beach, skipping school and "doing drugs enthusiastically".

Just that was the issue with him.

domer76
02-17-2016, 08:01 PM
Speaks to fallible man struggling to discover and choose absolute morality.

Struggle is fine. To find absolute morality, since it doesn't exist, is in vain.

Chris
02-17-2016, 08:04 PM
Struggle is fine. To find absolute morality, since it doesn't exist, is in vain.

And you know this...absolutely? That is your claim.

del
02-17-2016, 08:04 PM
Orin Hatch was never nominated. Bork and Douglas Ginsburg were and were treated extremely badly by the Senate Dems. Now the dems are acting like whatever will happen to Obama's nominee will be the first time ever.....

ginsberg was never formally nominated, and his politics had nothing to do with the problem.

his dope smoking did, and i don't think it was just dems that had a problem with it at the time.

honesty is the best policy

del
02-17-2016, 08:06 PM
refresh my memory. Wasn't Ginsburg the nominee they crucified because he smoked marijuana as a teenager?

my how times have changed. Now we have a president who wrote in his autobiography that he spent a couple of years hanging out on the beach, skipping school and "doing drugs enthusiastically".


no, he smoked dope after graduating law school and as a member of the faculty.

clarence thomas also smoked dope, but since he purportedly quit, not as much was made of it.

Peter1469
02-17-2016, 08:15 PM
ginsberg was never formally nominated, and his politics had nothing to do with the problem.

his dope smoking did, and i don't think it was just dems that had a problem with it at the time.

honesty is the best policy

On October 29, 1987, President Reagan nominated Ginsburg to the U.S. Supreme Court (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States) to fill the vacancy created by the retirement of Lewis Powell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Franklin_Powell,_Jr.),[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-msdomong-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-ppynj-2)announced on June 26.[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-mjptlsc-14) Ginsburg, age 41, was chosen after the U.S. Senate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate), controlled by Democrats, had rejected the nomination of Judge Robert Bork (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork)after a bruising confirmation battle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork_Supreme_Court_nomination) which ended with a 42–58 vote on October 23.[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-blbsv-15)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#U.S._Supreme_Court_nomination

del
02-17-2016, 08:20 PM
On October 29, 1987, President Reagan nominated Ginsburg to the U.S. Supreme Court (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States) to fill the vacancy created by the retirement of Lewis Powell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Franklin_Powell,_Jr.),[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-msdomong-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-ppynj-2)announced on June 26.[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-mjptlsc-14) Ginsburg, age 41, was chosen after the U.S. Senate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate), controlled by Democrats, had rejected the nomination of Judge Robert Bork (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork)after a bruising confirmation battle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork_Supreme_Court_nomination) which ended with a 42–58 vote on October 23.[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#cite_note-blbsv-15)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_H._Ginsburg#U.S._Supreme_Court_nomination


my mistake, i thought he withdrew prior to being nominated.



WASHINGTON — Douglas H. Ginsburg, President Reagan's choice for the Supreme Court, withdrew his name from consideration Saturday, saying that any discussion of his views on the law and the high court had "been drowned out in the clamor" over the revelation that he smoked marijuana as a law school professor.
Ginsburg announced his decision--made under intense pressure from conservative senators--in a brief statement that expressed disdain for the uproar over his personal life but also contained a strong anti-drug message

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-11-08/news/mn-21549_1_white-house-official

how many of those senators do you think were dems?

Private Pickle
02-17-2016, 08:23 PM
President Ronald Reagan had strong words about confirming his final Supreme Court nominee in 1988 (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485578/-President-Ronald-Reagan-had-strong-words-about-confirming-his-final-Supreme-Court-nominee-in-1988)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/209890/story_image/GettyImages-50928104.jpg?1455558562

President Ronald Reagan, patron saint of the modern Republican Party, repeatedly urged the United States Senate to confirm his Supreme Court nominee Anthony M. Kennedy. The year was 1988, the final year of his presidency.
From his remarks on January 19, 1988: (https://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/011988a.htm)



On January 25, 1988, President Reagan again urged the Senate to confirm Justice Kennedy, this time during this State of the Union address to Congress:



Current Senate Republicans can’t ignore the wise words of their own patron saint, can they? :huh:



Well .... ? :huh:

He had Alzheimer's.

Peter1469
02-17-2016, 08:23 PM
Orin Hatch withdrew.
my mistake, i thought he withdrew prior to being nominated.



http://articles.latimes.com/1987-11-08/news/mn-21549_1_white-house-official

how many of those senators do you think were dems?

Private Pickle
02-17-2016, 08:24 PM
no, he smoked dope after graduating law school and as a member of the faculty.

clarence thomas also smoked dope, but since he purportedly quit, not as much was made of it.

Too bad.

Ya know Carl Sagan reference weed for most of his major revelations...

domer76
02-17-2016, 08:29 PM
And you know this...absolutely? That is your claim.

We're all waiting for you to cite one. Nothing yet. Keep searching.

Tahuyaman
02-17-2016, 09:39 PM
Just that was the issue with him.



Thise liberals are a whacky bunch, huh.

del
02-17-2016, 10:08 PM
Orin Hatch withdrew.

so did ginsberg

del
02-17-2016, 10:09 PM
Too bad.

Ya know Carl Sagan reference weed for most of his major revelations...

carl sagan had no major revelations, so i understand why he would

Peter1469
02-17-2016, 11:06 PM
so did ginsberg
I meant before nomination.

Tahuyaman
02-17-2016, 11:38 PM
He had Alzheimer's.


And he was still a more credible and competent leader than what we are stuck with right now.

Tahuyaman
02-17-2016, 11:40 PM
I love how liberals are comparing this situation to a nomination Reagan made when he more than a year remaining in office.

domer76
02-18-2016, 12:46 AM
I love how liberals are comparing this situation to a nomination Reagan made when he more than a year remaining in office.

13 months vs what?

Private Pickle
02-18-2016, 09:35 AM
carl sagan had no major revelations, so i understand why he would

You don't know much about Sagan do you.

maineman
02-18-2016, 11:17 AM
I love how liberals are comparing this situation to a nomination Reagan made when he more than a year remaining in office.

oh...you're right. the time frames are so VASTLY different!

Tahuyaman
02-18-2016, 11:23 AM
oh...you're right. the time frames are so VASTLY different!

More than a year, less than a year. Yes, different.

Tahuyaman
02-18-2016, 11:29 AM
oh...you're right. the time frames are so VASTLY different!

actually, there is a vast difference. Reagan simple made his nomination. He didn't sit around and whine like a freaking fife year old.

maineman
02-18-2016, 11:41 AM
I actually haven't seen Obama whine about this at all.... and even a five year old can spell better than you.

maineman
02-18-2016, 11:42 AM
More than a year, less than a year. Yes, different.

vastly. without doubt.

Tahuyaman
02-18-2016, 12:17 PM
I actually haven't seen Obama whine about this at all.... and even a five year old can spell better than you.


He started whining about two hours after Scalia died. Either nominate someone, or shut up.



It didn't take long for you to get off track. As usual. You just can't help yourself.

maineman
02-18-2016, 12:49 PM
He started whining about two hours after Scalia died.

I don't believe you. Please post a video link that would show Obama WHINING two hours after Scalia died.

Tahuyaman
02-18-2016, 12:51 PM
I don't believe you. Please post a video link that would show Obama WHINING two hours after Scalia died.


Lol......

maineman
02-18-2016, 01:00 PM
so.... it was just more unsubstantiated bullshit?

why am I not surprised?

maineman
02-18-2016, 01:15 PM
He started whining about two hours after Scalia died.

seriously.... why do you always just pull stupid shit like this out of your ass? Do you like it knowing that people are laughing at you?

Tahuyaman
02-18-2016, 05:41 PM
seriously.... why do you always just pull stupid $#@! like this out of your ass? Do you like it knowing that people are laughing at you?


You're hopeless. Who's laughing? Name them. Would it be the left wing hacks here?

Ransom
02-18-2016, 06:27 PM
I don't believe you. Please post a video link that would show Obama WHINING two hours after Scalia died.

He was talking about ewe.

Tahuyaman
02-18-2016, 06:40 PM
He was talking about ewe.


I was talking about Obama and the other liberals out there. All of them have been whining and complaining about something which hasn't happened. All they do is complain and whine. That's all they are; whiners and complainers.