The Republican debate

[Peter1469]

The debate is starting on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/republican-debate-what-to-watch/). The last debate before Super Tuesday.


Houston (CNN)Everything's bigger in Texas -- and that's true of the stakes at CNN's Republican debate (http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/us/2016-presidential-debates-fast-facts/) in Houston at 8:30 p.m. ET Thursday night, just days beforeSuper Tuesday (http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/29/politics/2016-presidential-primaries-and-caucuses-fast-facts/).

[MisterVeritis]

The debate is starting on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/republican-debate-what-to-watch/). The last debate before Super Tuesday.
Decisions decisions. Watch or WoW? I think WoW.

[Green Arrow]

I really still have no idea why CNN thinks it's necessary to have a singer sing the national anthem at the start of their debates. It's not a football game.

[Private Pickle]

I really still have no idea why CNN thinks it's necessary to have a singer sing the national anthem at the start of their debates. It's not a football game.

Don't hate on the anthem...

[Private Pickle]

I turned it on.

[Peter1469]

I really still have no idea why CNN thinks it's necessary to have a singer sing the national anthem at the start of their debates. It's not a football game.

They are pretended that they are patriotic. It is always ironic to see these global news organizations pander during the debate.

[Private Pickle]

Well Rubio just got bitch slapped.

[Peter1469]

Rubio was a fool to attack Trump.

[Private Pickle]

Cruz and Rubio pounding away on Trump hiring illegals.

[del]

Well Rubio just got bitch slapped.

someone already said the debate started.

i assumed that was what they meant.

[Private Pickle]

Nice of Wolf to toss Kasich a bone but what a limp-wristed answer... Community service? Really?

[Private Pickle]

Rubio was a fool to attack Trump.

Agreed.

Hey look! Carson just wiped the sleep out of his eyes when asked a question.

[Peter1469]

Agreed.

Hey look! Carson just wiped the sleep out of his eyes when asked a question.

He reminds me of one of my cats. :smiley:

[Private Pickle]

Donald again comes up with no real substance on how the Mexicans will pay for the wall with the exception of starting a trade war...

Although he makes sense with regards to our trade deficits...

[Mac-7]

Hillary is winning the debate.

[Private Pickle]

Rubio has moved his sights from Cruz to Trump. He is throwing a lot of business related mud at Trump.

I think that is a huge mistake!

[Private Pickle]

The staffers in the audience are getting annoying with their screams... Childish.

[Private Pickle]

Hillary is winning the debate.

Well she does have the biggest schlong...

[Common Sense]

At least Rubio is actually trying for once.

[Peter1469]

Donald again comes up with no real substance on how the Mexicans will pay for the wall with the exception of starting a trade war...

Although he makes sense with regards to our trade deficits...

I think it is clearly via a trade war.

[Peter1469]

Hillary is winning the debate.

Allowing the unprofessional press to run these debates gets this result. They ask gotta questions and questions designed to get the candidates to attack one another.

The media has no business running debates. They should report on the debates.

[Mac-7]

Donald again comes up with no real substance on how the Mexicans will pay for the wall with the exception of starting a trade war...

Although he makes sense with regards to our trade deficits...

Mexico profits according to trump $58 billion a year.

Why would the mexicans want to fight a trade war that takes that windfall away from them?

[Mark III]

Marco Rubio is winning this debate, easily.

He finally found the balls to take on Trump, and I think it is working for him.

[Private Pickle]

I think it is clearly via a trade war.

I'm down.

[Private Pickle]

Marco Rubio is winning this debate, easily.

He finally found the balls to take on Trump, and I think it is working for him.

I don't disagree. He definitely is coming out with guns a blazing... Especially against Trump.

Maybe his handlers recognized that the risk could be worth the reward. That's the think with Rubio though... Do we really need another guy handled his way through the White House after we had Bush?

[Common Sense]

A trade war will also cost American jobs. Lots of American jobs.

[Private Pickle]

Carson and Kasich are at the kid's table...

[Mark III]

Donald Trump charged students at his "Trump University" 36,000 dollars apiece for some handouts , lectures (not by Trump) and a photo with the student standing by a cardboard cutout of the Donald. It was fraud. Nice to see Rubio man up and confront Trump about it.

[Private Pickle]

A trade war will also cost American jobs. Lots of American jobs.

I don't think so. More likely, the cost of goods increases. And if done correctly could lead to the increase of jobs in the manufacturing and agriculture spaces.

[TrueBlue]

The debate is starting on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/republican-debate-what-to-watch/). The last debate before Super Tuesday.
The Republicans are really slugging it out tonight. The gloves are really off and they are literally fighting for their lives realizing several will be dropping like flies after this last debate before Super Tuesday.

[Private Pickle]

Donald Trump charged students at his "Trump University" 36,000 dollars apiece for some handouts , lectures (not by Trump) and a photo with the student standing by a cardboard cutout of the Donald. It was fraud. Nice to see Rubio man up and confront Trump about it.

That's what the plaintiffs say... We'll see... In all likelihood nothing will come of it... These types of "Get Rich Quick" seminars are common and legal...

[Mac-7]

Trump insults telemundo.

good for him

[Matty]

The Republicans are really slugging it out tonight. The gloves are really off and they are literally fighting for their lives realizing several will be dropping like flies after this last debate before Super Tuesday.




I really really loved GA's picture! I see you did too.

[Common Sense]

I don't think so. More likely, the cost of goods increases. And if done correctly could lead to the increase of jobs in the manufacturing and agriculture spaces.

Possibly, but I doubt the American companies down there will just up and relocate back to the US. The US makes a shit ton of agricultural products, machinery, electrical machinery, not to mention a lot of corn.

[Matty]

A trade war will also cost American jobs. Lots of American jobs.


Ha ha ha ha!

[Private Pickle]

Mexico profits according to trump $58 billion a year.

Why would the mexicans want to fight a trade war that takes that windfall away from them?

Wut?

[Common Sense]

I liked how Trump didn't like the F word but has no problem saying pussy.

He's a petulant child up there.

The only explanation for his wide support is that some of you have been hypnotized or some MKUltra tech has been used against you. That's my best guess.

[Mark III]

Trump is getting his ass kicked in this debate.

Will GOP voters care ?

[Common Sense]

Ha ha ha ha!

You think that's funny? It could cost hundreds of thousands of jobs.

[Matty]

You think that's funny? It could cost hundreds of thousands of jobs.


Yeah yeah yeah!

[Mark III]

That's what the plaintiffs say... We'll see... In all likelihood nothing will come of it... These types of "Get Rich Quick" seminars are common and legal...

It's fraud, whether he loses his suit or not.

In any case, why should we elect someone who duped people out of their life savings to the office of president? Does no one have any standards anymore in this country ?

[Mac-7]

Cruz and Rubio pounding away on Trump hiring illegals.

But the facts do not support Rubio's attack.

[Mark III]

But the facts do not support Rubio's attack.

Your track record about facts doesnt inspire a lot of confidence in your opinion.

[Mark III]

Trump Tower Was Built on Undocumented Immigrants' Backs (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/08/trump-tower-was-built-on-undocumented-immigrants-backs.html)www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/08/trump-tower-was-built-on...
Jul 08, 2015 · The Donald may denounce illegal immigrants as ‘rapists,’ but his empire’s crown jewel was erected on land cleared by 200 undocumented Polish workers.

[Mac-7]

Wut?



Mexico stands to lose more in a trade war than we do

[Private Pickle]

Possibly, but I doubt the American companies down there will just up and relocate back to the US. The US makes a shit ton of agricultural products, machinery, electrical machinery, not to mention a lot of corn.

That's the great thing. I could care less if American companies whose manufacturing facilities have been offshored go tits up. There will be American companies that spring up like prairie flowers to take their place (there is a shit ton of money in the States). Those companies know this and if they thought this scenario even had a 5% chance of happening would come back home.

[Mac-7]

Trump Tower Was Built on Undocumented Immigrants' Backs (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/08/trump-tower-was-built-on-undocumented-immigrants-backs.html)

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/08/trump-tower-was-built-on...
Jul 08, 2015 · The Donald may denounce illegal immigrants as ‘rapists,’ but his empire’s crown jewel was erected on land cleared by 200 undocumented Polish workers.


Hired by a private contractor not trump

[Private Pickle]

It's fraud, whether he loses his suit or not.

Well that's what the plaintiffs say... We've established that.


In any case, why should we elect someone who duped people out of their life savings to the office of president? Does no one have any standards anymore in this country ?

Hyperbole. Reel it in. You only solidify Trump supporters with this mindless dribble...

[Private Pickle]

Mexico stands to lose more in a trade war than we do

That's what I've been saying... But by all means, draw me a picture...

[Common Sense]

That's the great thing. I could care less if American companies whose manufacturing facilities have been offshored go tits up. There will be American companies that spring up like prairie flowers to take their place (there is a shit ton of money in the States). Those companies know this and if they thought this scenario even had a 5% chance of happening would come back home.

No, I mean American jobs in American factories. Those are the ones who are exporting billions to Mexico and who employs hundreds of thousands.

[Private Pickle]

Carson: "I like fruit salad".

[Common Sense]

Kasich and Rubio are the only adults on the stage. What is Carson even doing there?

[Matty]

It tickles the shit outta me, if liberals are so damn smart why did all the American companies leave? Could it be their punishing tax and regulation policies. Obamacare ring any little tinkly bells? NoOW they want to bleed about how many American jobs will be lost. You cannot make this shit up. You see what Seattle is up to now? Roflmaalwao.





http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/25/seattle-pushes-sweeping-new-rules-for-worker-schedules-employers-cry-foul.html?intcmp=hpbt2

[Private Pickle]

No, I mean American jobs in American factories. Those are the ones who are exporting billions to Mexico and who employs hundreds of thousands.

We have a deficit. It would even out in our favor.

[Mac-7]

That's what I've been saying... But by all means, draw me a picture...

I retracted that.

sorry.

[Private Pickle]

It tickles the shit outta me, if liberals are so damn smart why did all the American companies leave? Could it be their punishing tax and regulation policies. Obamacare ring any little tinkly bells? NoOW they want to bleed about how many American jobs will be lost. You cannot make this shit up. You see what Seattle is up to now? Roflmaalwao.

Labor costs are a big part of it.

You're laughing an awful lot for a so-so post on macro economics...

[Private Pickle]

Kasich and Rubio are the only adults on the stage. What is Carson even doing there?

I wouldn't classify Rubio as an adult. For some reason he seems like the Frat Boy of the group... To me, he seems like the guy that would be the most handled and exploited...

[Matty]

Kasich and Rubio are the only adults on the stage. What is Carson even doing there?


He's an American, running for President. Thanks for asking.

[Matty]

Labor costs are a big part of it.

You're laughing an awful lot for a so-so post on macro economics...




I don't claim to be an expert on the economy! You?

[Private Pickle]

Rubio also seems like he whines his answers.

"Geez guys! I mean we really gotta do something here guys! I mean sheesh"

[The Xl]

Trump is absolutely right on healthcare.

[Private Pickle]

I don't claim to be an expert on the economy! You?

Comparatively?

[Matty]

Comparatively?


In iany shape or form. Are you an expert?

[TrueBlue]

Republicans are literally destroying themselves in this debate. It is worse than being in a hungry lion's cage at this point. Yet only one there will get the nod.

[Matty]

Republicans are literally destroying themselves in this debate. It is worse than being in a hungry lion's cage at this point. Yet only one there will get the nod.




In your dreams.

[Mark III]

Well that's what the plaintiffs say... We've established that.



Hyperbole. Reel it in. You only solidify Trump supporters with this mindless dribble...


I'm not that interested in your analysis of what I say

"The plaintiffs, former students at Trump University, allege they were misled into maxing out their credit cards and paying up to $60,000 in fees for seminars in hotel ballrooms and “mentoring” by Trump’s “hand-picked” real estate experts. The lawsuit against the school, which is no longer in business, alleges the seminars turned into little more than an “infomercial” and the Trump mentors offered “no practical advice” and “mostly disappeared.” New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a separate suit in 2013 alleging fraud on the part of the “university,” which was never an accredited institution and awarded no degrees."

Trump may have good enough lawyers to get him off the hook. He's a sleaze and always has been.

[Green Arrow]

Damn, Trump is getting rekt. I've never seen Marco Rubio like this and I kind of like it.

[Peter1469]

I liked how Trump didn't like the F word but has no problem saying pussy.

He's a petulant child up there.

The only explanation for his wide support is that some of you have been hypnotized or some MKUltra tech has been used against you. That's my best guess.

I explained it when Trump came on the scene. Populism.

[Mark III]

Rubio is taking Trump apart. He is easily winning this debate.

[Private Pickle]

Trump is absolutely right on healthcare.

Partially. The truth is that we need pricing limits on medical supplies and equipment.

[Private Pickle]

I'm not that interested in your analysis of what I say

"The plaintiffs, former students at Trump University, allege they were misled into maxing out their credit cards and paying up to $60,000 in fees for seminars in hotel ballrooms and “mentoring” by Trump’s “hand-picked” real estate experts. The lawsuit against the school, which is no longer in business, alleges the seminars turned into little more than an “infomercial” and the Trump mentors offered “no practical advice” and “mostly disappeared.” New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a separate suit in 2013 alleging fraud on the part of the “university,” which was never an accredited institution and awarded no degrees."

Trump may have good enough lawyers to get him off the hook. He's a sleaze and always has been.

What part of "That is what the plantiffs say" don't you get?

[Private Pickle]

But the facts do not support Rubio's attack.

Yeah they do but it's old news...

[Mark III]

Yeah they do but it's old news...

Trump has hundreds of illegal immigrants working for him right now.

[Common Sense]

I wouldn't classify Rubio as an adult. For some reason he seems like the Frat Boy of the group... To me, he seems like the guy that would be the most handled and exploited...

He does come off a bit weak. But at least he's not a douche or a psychopath.

[Peter1469]

He does come off a bit weak. But at least he's not a douche or a psychopath.

He is a weak beta male.

[Common Sense]

He is a weak beta male.

I don't know if you get that far being a beta...beta is the far end of the spectrum.

[Common Sense]

Damn, Trump is getting rekt. I've never seen Marco Rubio like this and I kind of like it.

If he had done this from the get go he might have had a chance.

[TrueBlue]

In your dreams.
In reality!

[Peter1469]

I don't know if you get that far being a beta...beta is the far end of the spectrum.

Not really. Very few males are Alpha.

[Matty]

In reality!


Your dreams are your reality!

[Private Pickle]

In iany shape or form. Are you an expert?

Compared to you I'm Adam Smith.

[Common Sense]

Not really. Very few males are Alpha.

My point is males aren't either alpha or beta.

[Private Pickle]

Trump has hundreds of illegal immigrants working for him right now.

Well he does own a lot of hotels. Are you saying he interviews everyone? That he knows every employee?

[TrueBlue]

If he had done this from the get go he might have had a chance.
But at this point it is too late and that kid, still wet behind the ears, just can't compete with Trump in the long run.

[Common Sense]

Compared to you I'm Adam Smith.

Keep that invisible hand to yourself.:shocked:

[Matty]

Not really. Very few males are Alpha.


Hillary!

[Private Pickle]

He is a weak beta male.

Putin would be selling him to China for a pack of cigarettes in the shower...

[Matty]

Compared to you I'm Adam Smith.


Compared to me? You are an amoeba

[Private Pickle]

Keep that invisible hand to yourself.:shocked:

She asked. I even warned her...

[Peter1469]

My point is males aren't either alpha or beta.

I agree in the sense that you forgot the pitiful gammas.

[TrueBlue]

Your dreams are your reality!
Your so called "dreams" are actually a nightmare!

[Private Pickle]

Compared to me? You are an amoeba

Errr...good one?

[Matty]

Your so called "dreams" are actually a nightmare!



Hillary is an Alpha Male!

[Peter1469]

Hillary is an Alpha Male!

Females alphas- almost unheard of.

[The Xl]

Donald is handling this masterfully.

The globalists really don't know what they're doing. Making this the Donald Trump show is only going to make him more popular.

[Matty]

Females alphas- almost unheard of.



Ask Bill, he will tell you.

[Green Arrow]

Donald is handling this masterfully.

The globalists really don't know what they're doing. Making this the Donald Trump show is only going to make him more popular.

Donald Trump...the globalist?

[Common Sense]

Rubio is almost there. But what I don't understand is why he doesn't push Trump more on specifics. When he does, Trump goes on the offensive and it makes him look stupid.

If I were Rubio I would say it like it is...Trump has no idea what he's talking about, he's learned all of this stuff in the last few weeks and months, he has no plan, he's just telling you what you want to hear and that Trump in reality is politically illiterate.

I think there are a lot of people here who know more about politics, the Constitution and how things work than Trump. It baffles me that they can't form a substantive attack on Trump. He's such a huge target.

[Common Sense]

Donald is handling this masterfully.

The globalists really don't know what they're doing. Making this the Donald Trump show is only going to make him more popular.

LOL...oh my god that's funny.

[Peter1469]

Donald Trump...the globalist?

He didn't call Trump a globalist.

[Peter1469]

Rubio is almost there. But what I don't understand is why he doesn't push Trump more on specifics. When he does, Trump goes on the offensive and it makes him look stupid.

If I were Rubio I would say it like it is...Trump has no idea what he's talking about, he's learned all of this stuff in the last few weeks and months, he has no plan, he's just telling you what you want to hear and that Trump in reality is politically illiterate.

I think there are a lot of people here who know more about politics, the Constitution and how things work than Trump. It baffles me that they can't form a substantive attack on Trump. He's such a huge target.

They aren't that bright for the most part. A couple are too polite.

[Common Sense]

They aren't that bright for the most part. A couple are too polite.

It seems that way.

I'd pull no punches. I'd eviscerate the Donald if I was on that stage.

[Mac-7]

It seems that way.

I'd pull no punches. I'd eviscerate the Donald if I was on that stage.

Trump would take your lunch away

[Dr. Who]

I think it is clearly via a trade war.
How does that work with NAFTA?

[Common Sense]

Trump would take your lunch away

I already ate lunch. Even dinner.

But that was kind of funny...so kudos to you.

[Mark III]

It seems that way.

I'd pull no punches. I'd eviscerate the Donald if I was on that stage.

I think Rubio and Cruz will both continue to blast Trump every day now because

1. It worked well tonight.

2. They really have no other choice.

[Common Sense]

How does that work with NAFTA?

I don't think Trump even knows what that stands for.

That's the thing, it doesn't work with NAFTA. They are willing to throw out the entire trilateral relationship to build a fantasy wall. At the expense of thousands of American jobs.

[Mark III]

LOL...oh my god that's funny.

Trump looked a total fool for much of this debate.

A small preview of what would happen in the general.

[Mark III]

Well he does own a lot of hotels. Are you saying he interviews everyone? That he knows every employee?

He is the world's leading anti illegal immigrant human being on earth. He couldn't put a process into place to eliminate illegals from his workforce ?

[Green Arrow]

Ben Carson notches one of the best lines of the night - "Can somebody attack me, please?"

The joke is obvious, he'd get a chance to speak if someone attacked him, something he barely gets as is.

[Private Pickle]

Quote of the night:

"Can someone attack me please?"

-Ben Carson

[Private Pickle]

Ben Carson notches one of the best lines of the night - "Can somebody attack me, please?"

The joke is obvious, he'd get a chance to speak if someone attacked him, something he barely gets as is.

Beat me to it.

[Private Pickle]

Trump was really reserved tonight. Interesting.

[Dr. Who]

Hired by a private contractor not trump
http://www.fulcrumgallery.com/product-images/P678810-10/monkeys-see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-speak-no-evil.jpg

[Green Arrow]

He didn't call Trump a globalist.

I know. My point is he claimed the globalists are sweating because Donald Trump is doing well, which is absurd because Trump himself is a globalist.

[Private Pickle]

He is the world's leading anti illegal immigrant human being on earth. He couldn't put a process into place to eliminate illegals from his workforce ?
I'm sure he has one... If you can point to a large corporation that does it 100% I'll point to a company everyone else should immolate...

[Private Pickle]

CNN has lost control. Wolf is gonna cry.

[Common Sense]

I sort of felt bad for Ben...it's time to go, buddy.

[Green Arrow]

I don't know why, but I want Donald Trump to punch Ted Cruz.

Right now.

On live TV.

That's the only way this can get any more exciting.

[Dr. Who]

Well he does own a lot of hotels. Are you saying he interviews everyone? That he knows every employee?
Not nearly as many as bear his name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization

[The Xl]

Donald Trump...the globalist?
Donald Trump is wealthy, but what makes him part of this globalist regime?

[Crepitus]

I don't know why, but I want Donald Trump to punch Ted Cruz.

Right now.

On live TV.

That's the only way this can get any more exciting.
It's 'cause Cruz is such a likable guy.

[Private Pickle]

Not nearly as many as bear his name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization

OK But do you want to take a shot at the questions I asked?

[Crepitus]

That's the great thing. I could care less if American companies whose manufacturing facilities have been offshored go tits up. There will be American companies that spring up like prairie flowers to take their place (there is a shit ton of money in the States). Those companies know this and if they thought this scenario even had a 5% chance of happening would come back home.
Agree.

[Common Sense]

I don't know why, but I want Donald Trump to punch Ted Cruz.

Right now.

On live TV.

That's the only way this can get any more exciting.

I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.

It's the new age of political discourse in the GOP. There should also be fireworks and monster trucks. Maybe some chicks in bikinis.

[Crepitus]

It tickles the shit outta me, if liberals are so damn smart why did all the American companies leave? Could it be their punishing tax and regulation policies. Obamacare ring any little tinkly bells? NoOW they want to bleed about how many American jobs will be lost. You cannot make this shit up. You see what Seattle is up to now? Roflmaalwao.





http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/25/seattle-pushes-sweeping-new-rules-for-worker-schedules-employers-cry-foul.html?intcmp=hpbt2
Taxes are a red herring. The real reason for offshoring is labor cost.

[Common Sense]

I think Kasich and Trump have made a deal.

[Green Arrow]

Donald Trump is wealthy, but what makes him part of this globalist regime?

I don't know, the fact that he funds and enables it?

[Green Arrow]

Well, now I have a dilemma. Do I vote in the Dem primary on Tuesday, or the GOP primary?

Decisions, decisions...

[The Xl]

I don't know, the fact that he funds and enables it?

He's beholden to himself and has said as much. He's not beholden to the banking cartel and the like.

[Private Pickle]

Well, now I have a dilemma. Do I vote in the Dem primary on Tuesday, or the GOP primary?

Decisions, decisions...

TN is an open primary?

[Private Pickle]

He's beholden to himself and has said as much. He's not beholden to the banking cartel and the like.

Can't hold that against him. I'm pretty beholden to myself too...

[Ethereal]

Are these guys running for President of the United States or the Chief Servant of Israel?

[Green Arrow]

TN is an open primary?

Yep. We don't even have party registration, that I know of. When I registered to vote, there was no option for party affiliation. You just register to vote, and then when you get to the polling place you tell them which party's ballot you want. I voted in the GOP primaries in 2012 and the Democratic Party primaries in 2014.

[Crepitus]

I'm sure he has one... If you can point to a large corporation that does it 100% I'll point to a company everyone else should immolate...
Lol, immulate. Immolate is something completely different.

Sorry, the grammar nazi in me gets out occasionally.

[Ethereal]

Summary of the debate: Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel...vomit...

[Green Arrow]

He's beholden to himself and has said as much. He's not beholden to the banking cartel and the like.

And you don't think his interests align with theirs? If the banking cartel goes down, Trump loses money and security.

[Private Pickle]

Yep. We don't even have party registration, that I know of. When I registered to vote, there was no option for party affiliation. You just register to vote, and then when you get to the polling place you tell them which party's ballot you want. I voted in the GOP primaries in 2012 and the Democratic Party primaries in 2014.

I'm not affiliated with a party so no primary for me...

[Green Arrow]

Lol, immulate. Immolate is something completely different.

Sorry, the grammar nazi in me gets out occasionally.

It's actually emulate.

[Private Pickle]

Lol, immulate. Immolate is something completely different.

Sorry, the grammar nazi in me gets out occasionally.

No worries. Auto-spell correct will get you every time.

[Green Arrow]

I'm not affiliated with a party so no primary for me...

I'm not affiliated with a party either, before I left California I was a registered Independent.

[Dr. Who]

OK But do you want to take a shot at the questions I asked?
No one as slippery as Trump doesn't put a lot of paperwork between himself and the illegals that work for him. He turns a blind eye to contractors that hire illegals and pretends that he doesn't know. I'm sure his corporation doesn't hire illegals directly. However the man is a major cheapskate, so he is definitely contracting with people who are contracting with people who employ illegals. He did so in the past - there is no reason to think that this leopard has changed his spots.

[Private Pickle]

No one as slippery as Trump doesn't put a lot of paperwork between himself and the illegals that work for him. He turns a blind eye to contractors that hire illegals and pretends that he doesn't know. I'm sure his corporation doesn't hire illegals directly. However the man is a major cheapskate, so he definitely contracting with people who are contracting with people who employ illegals.

You are making the connection of corruption based on your opinion of him. I'm simply more of a fact-based kinda guy...

[Crepitus]

It's actually emulate.
Arrgh! Hoist on my own petard!

[The Xl]

And you don't think his interests align with theirs? If the banking cartel goes down, Trump loses money and security.

I'm not sure I buy that. I think he's a glory hog, and would fight these guys for the glory of it. Maybe not the most admirable reason, but whatever gets the job done.

The guy has threatened to release undisclosed information on 911 and wants to audit the fed. He's clearly at odds with these guys.

[The Xl]

Can't hold that against him. I'm pretty beholden to myself too...

Sure. As long as he's not supporting the specific interests killing the country, I don't care.

[Ethereal]

It should be treasonous for an American candidate to talk so preferentially about a foreign country like that. I'm sick and tired of Republicans thinking their number one job is to talk about how much they love Israel. I doubt there is a single ordinary American who sits down to dinner at night and worries about Israel and making them happy, yet the word "Israel" was probably mentioned more than any other word throughout this debate. How is this even possible? How are the candidates for President mentioning something over and over and over again which no ordinary American spends more than five seconds thinking about during their average day? These Zionist hucksters should be registered as foreign agents for the Israeli government if they are going to shill so relentlessly for them.

[Common Sense]

Lol, immulate. Immolate is something completely different.

Sorry, the grammar nazi in me gets out occasionally.

Plus we don't want to encourage arson.

[Ethereal]

Are we in the twilight zone or something? Why wasn't Canada or England or France or Germany mentioned dozens of times throughout the debate? Are they not our allies, too? Do we need anymore proof that American democracy has been utterly subverted by a foreign government who is trying to subordinate our sovereignty and our interests to their own? Where does the loyalty of someone like Cruz or Rubio lie? With Israel or America? I cannot tell. I know I keep harping on this, but if a candidate's loyalty to America is vitiated by their loyalty to a foreign government, that is an extreme problem and it must be addressed. We cannot have servants and shills for foreign governments occupying the most powerful office in America. That is a threat to our sovereignty, our interests, and our national security.

[Dr. Who]

You are making the connection of corruption based on your opinion of him. I'm simply more of a fact-based kinda guy...
Well if people had criminal proof, Trump would be in jail, not running for President. In construction, the project management hires a general contractor, stating that they cannot hire illegals, and the general contractor puts similar language in it's contract with the subs, but more often than not, no one is asking painters or drywallers for green cards. These outfits are just the lowest bid and Trump does have a history of going with the lowest bids. The original Trump Tower boasted fabulously luxurious, if not almost ostentatious public spaces, but the private apartments were strictly economy. The people who bought them had to gut them. He's not a scrupulous man and he really doesn't have any friends. He treats people, even employees badly and only appreciates those who can do something for him. He once scapegoated two innocent employees who died in a plane crash, simply because they were not alive to defend themselves. He needed a patsy.

However, when he's making a deal, he will say whatever he needs to close it. Afterward is another story. Ultimately he's a certainly a classic narcissist and possibly even a psychopath. http://secularbuddhism.org/2015/12/08/is-donald-trump-a-psychopath-and-should-we-love-him-anyway/

[Tahuyaman]

Rubio was a fool to attack Trump.

I thought Rubio was quite effective. Trump looked more of a buffoon than he normally does.

[Tahuyaman]

Rubio has moved his sights from Cruz to Trump. He is throwing a lot of business related mud at Trump.

I think that is a huge mistake!

I wish Rubio would have shown this kind of attitude a couple of months ago. I think Rubio and Cruz rattled Trump tonight. They hit him on his biggest weakness. His character.

[Tahuyaman]

Marco Rubio is winning this debate, easily.

He finally found the balls to take on Trump, and I think it is working for him.

I agree.

[Common Sense]

Does anyone remember just a few years ago when even the Republican debates were civil and were based on substance and actual policy? The contrast between tonight's "debate" and this debate is stunning. Just watch a couple of minutes...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uezv_C_i4Us

[Tahuyaman]

Kasich and Rubio are the only adults on the stage. What is Carson even doing there?

No one attacked Carson, so he never had the opportunity to respond. The debate was poorly organized and even more poorly moderated.

[Common Sense]

No one attacked Carson, so he never had the opportunity to respond. The debate was poorly organized and even more poorly moderated.

It wasn't a great format.

[Green Arrow]

I'm not sure I buy that. I think he's a glory hog, and would fight these guys for the glory of it. Maybe not the most admirable reason, but whatever gets the job done.

No offense, but whether you buy it or not is irrelevant. The evidence is clear.

I don't understand your thinking on this. Rand Paul says a couple things that could be construed as flip-flopping and you jump his ass and tar him as an enemy. Donald Trump is quite literally all over the place on what he says he'll do and has a lifetime record of supporting and enabling the establishment and you defend him like he's on our side. How does this make sense?


The guy has threatened to release undisclosed information on 911 and wants to audit the fed. He's clearly at odds with these guys.

Sure, he's said that now when he needs to win an election.

[Tahuyaman]

Does anyone remember just a few years ago when even the Republican debates were civil and were based on substance and actual policy? The contrast between tonight's "debate" and this debate is stunning. Just watch a couple of minutes...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uezv_C_i4Us

I thought there was actually quite a bit of substance in the debate. That being said, the moderator lost control.

[Matty]

I went to Patagonia! Did I miss anything?

[Common Sense]

I thought there was actually quite a bit of substance in the debate. That being said, the moderator lost control.

Compare it to the other debate. It was very light on substance and heavy on bullshit, insults (mainly from Donald) and mischaracterizations.

It used to be "my idea is better than yours and here's why". Now it's "this guy is a loser because he did this and he can't be trusted".

Substance has been replaced with character assassination.

[Common Sense]

I went to Patagonia! Did I miss anything?

See any penguins?

[Matty]

See any penguins?



No.

[Common Sense]

No.

Maybe their out of season. It's summer down there.

[gamewell45]

I watched it from start to finish. it was nothing more then a huge food fight between Trump, Rubio & Cruz. The CNN moderators lost total control over the debate several times and Carson rarely was asked any questions which I felt was very unfair.

[Hal Jordan]

He's beholden to himself and has said as much. He's not beholden to the banking cartel and the like.

No, they are beholden to him. First, what he says means nothing, as it changes depending on what group he wants to impress. Look at his run for President in 2000, then look at it now. He was for something far closer to single payer healthcare than Obamacare in 2000 and says Obamacare goes too far now (for example). Second, he has clearly admitted to buying other politicians in previous debates, which clearly means he is a controller of the establishment, which is the exact opposite of anti-establishment.

[Hal Jordan]

I watched it from start to finish. it was nothing more then a huge food fight between Trump, Rubio & Cruz. The CNN moderators lost total control over the debate several times and Carson rarely was asked any questions which I felt was very unfair.

That implies they ever had control.

[Mac-7]

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Could be.

my guess is he went with the lowest bidder.

but if every builder in town is doing the same thing what would you do if you were trump?

pay millions more than your competitors for the same work?

I dont think even liberals would do that.

[Peter1469]

How does that work with NAFTA?

What does it matter? It is a peace of paper.

[Peter1469]

I know. My point is he claimed the globalists are sweating because Donald Trump is doing well, which is absurd because Trump himself is a globalist.

Trump is running outside of the Establishment. The Establishment are the globalist elites that are the puppet masters of our typical politicians.

[Peter1469]

I watched it from start to finish. it was nothing more then a huge food fight between Trump, Rubio & Cruz. The CNN moderators lost total control over the debate several times and Carson rarely was asked any questions which I felt was very unfair.

That is exactly what CNN wanted. They asked questions designed to start fights on stage.

[midcan5]

Rubio and Trump talking over each other was hilarious. The republican party today is a joke, 'make America great again' needs revising. How about: 'another day another shooting' or 'see the USA in your foreign car, Mexico is happy you do' or 'where's the ammo' or 'compassionate outsourcer' or 'manifest foolery' or 'shoot baby shoot' or 'nightmare in America' or 'read my lips, no AR15 ban' or ....

Enough, 'be nice to each other.' Ellen

[PNW]

Allowing the unprofessional press to run these debates gets this result. They ask gotta questions and questions designed to get the candidates to attack one another.

The media has no business running debates. They should report on the debates.

You would rather the party run the debate?

[Private Pickle]

Well if people had criminal proof, Trump would be in jail, not running for President. In construction, the project management hires a general contractor, stating that they cannot hire illegals, and the general contractor puts similar language in it's contract with the subs, but more often than not, no one is asking painters or drywallers for green cards. These outfits are just the lowest bid and Trump does have a history of going with the lowest bids. The original Trump Tower boasted fabulously luxurious, if not almost ostentatious public spaces, but the private apartments were strictly economy. The people who bought them had to gut them. He's not a scrupulous man and he really doesn't have any friends. He treats people, even employees badly and only appreciates those who can do something for him. He once scapegoated two innocent employees who died in a plane crash, simply because they were not alive to defend themselves. He needed a patsy.

However, when he's making a deal, he will say whatever he needs to close it. Afterward is another story. Ultimately he's a certainly a classic narcissist and possibly even a psychopath. http://secularbuddhism.org/2015/12/08/is-donald-trump-a-psychopath-and-should-we-love-him-anyway/

The case isn't criminal in nature. No laws were broken.

In addition I find it laughable that you're holding Trump to standards you don't hold other politicians... Most of them are business owners of some type and most of them hire people.

Look up Gov Hickenlooper. A democratic governor and business owner who has indeed hired illegals at his restaurant.

Anyway, I really don't care if Trump or anyone else for that matter is a "nice guy". As long as he gets the job done. I'm not a fan of Trump but I'll vote for him over Hillary.

[PNW]

Whats amazing to me is that anyone can look at those idiots and think "Presidential" or even "leader".

[Private Pickle]

I wish Rubio would have shown this kind of attitude a couple of months ago. I think Rubio and Cruz rattled Trump tonight. They hit him on his biggest weakness. His character.

I think Cruz turtled up... I don't think he had any intention of going after Trump until Rubio started slingin poo.

The problem that I have with Rubio is that he will be handled and manipulated by the party.

[Private Pickle]

Whats amazing to me is that anyone can look at those idiots and think "Presidential" or even "leader".

Interesting comment. Who do you look at and think "Presidential" or even "leader"?

[PolWatch]

It should be treasonous for an American candidate to talk so preferentially about a foreign country like that. I'm sick and tired of Republicans thinking their number one job is to talk about how much they love Israel. I doubt there is a single ordinary American who sits down to dinner at night and worries about Israel and making them happy, yet the word "Israel" was probably mentioned more than any other word throughout this debate. How is this even possible? How are the candidates for President mentioning something over and over and over again which no ordinary American spends more than five seconds thinking about during their average day? These Zionist hucksters should be registered as foreign agents for the Israeli government if they are going to shill so relentlessly for them.

I think the repub invitation/response to Bibi addressing Congress was an indication of which country they represent. What's next? Opening their convention with a pledge of allegiance to Israel?

[Mac-7]

I think the repub invitation/response to Bibi addressing Congress was an indication of which country they represent. What's next? Opening their convention with a pledge of allegiance to Israel?

It was the one good deed by bohnor while he was speaker

He was trying to stop obama from making a terrible deal with iran

Americans will die thanks to the iran deal

[Green Arrow]

Trump is running outside of the Establishment. The Establishment are the globalist elites that are the puppet masters of our typical politicians.

He is one of the puppet masters.

[Chris]

I thought Rubio tearing into Trump as good, but probably too late. Cruz asking Trump about his support for socialized healthcare wasn't as effective.

[Mac-7]

He is one of the puppet masters.

Rush limbaugh makes a good point about trump when he notices for trump being rich is not enough to lift a kid from Queens into the elite establishment in manhattan.

Meaning trump will always be an outsider whose motivation to succeed is driven by a desire to show up the snobs who run America.

[Mac-7]

I thought Rubio tearing into Trump as good, but probably too late. Cruz asking Trump about his support for socialized healthcare wasn't as effective.

Rubio had the best night followed by kasich and then trump

sadly my guy cruz did not do very well

[Green Arrow]

I thought Rubio tearing into Trump as good, but probably too late. Cruz asking Trump about his support for socialized healthcare wasn't as effective.

Cruz in general wasn't very effective. I see this debate dropping Trump's and Cruz's numbers and raising Rubio's.

[Chris]

Rubio and Trump talking over each other was hilarious. The republican party today is a joke, 'make America great again' needs revising. How about: 'another day another shooting' or 'see the USA in your foreign car, Mexico is happy you do' or 'where's the ammo' or 'compassionate outsourcer' or 'manifest foolery' or 'shoot baby shoot' or 'nightmare in America' or 'read my lips, no AR15 ban' or ....

Enough, 'be nice to each other.' Ellen


As much a joke as the Dems.

"Free Stuff!"

[Chris]

Cruz in general wasn't very effective. I see this debate dropping Trump's and Cruz's numbers and raising Rubio's.

It should but Trump is teflon. Many things he says sound good, it resonates with many, despite his not having a plan to implement any.

[Mac-7]

It should but Trump is teflon. Many things he says sound good, it resonates with many, despite his not having a plan to implement any.

No candidate has a detailed plan for anything.

thats not how American voters elect the president

[Chris]

No candidate has a detailed plan for anything.

thats not how American voters elect the president

Carson was, in the little time given him, fairly detailed on Health Empowerment Accounts.

[Tahuyaman]

That is exactly what CNN wanted. They asked questions designed to start fights on stage.

The way that debate was organized and moderated lends credibility to your view that the media should not be sponsoring and moderating debates. Especially media which is hostile to the views of the participants.

Still, I thought there was actually quite a bit of substance provided by most of the participants.

[Tahuyaman]

Carson was, in the little time given him, fairly detailed on Health Empowerment Accounts.

Carson also provided the funniest line of the night when he said "would someone attack me please".

[Mac-7]

Carson was, in the little time given him, fairly detailed on Health Empowerment Accounts.

And so is trump about building the wall

[Mac-7]

The way that debate was organized and moderated lends credibility to your view that the media should not be sponsoring and moderating debates. Especially media which is hostile to the views of the participants.

Still, I thought there was actually quite a bit of substance provided by most of the participants.

I dont blame CNN but rather the candidates including trump.

it is their choice to act so childish

[Chris]

And so is trump about building the wall

I remember he said it will be higher than something. And the Presidente de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos had a foul mouth. Some plan.

[Cigar]

Best Debate so far ... :laugh:

[Tahuyaman]

I remember he said it will be higher than something. And the Presidente de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos had a foul mouth. Some plan.


Trump has has yet to provide any specifics on anything other than "I'm very very rich". "Cruz is a horrible person". "Rubio is a choke artist", "I'll be great and make everyone happy again".

Oh....... And "the wall just got ten feet higher". Trump is the biggest buffoon who's everrun for president,

[Truth Detector]

Trump has has yet to provide any specifics on anything other than "I'm very very rich". "Cruz is a horrible person". "Rubio is a choke artist", "I'll be great and make everyone happy again".

Oh....... And "the wall just got ten feet higher". Trump is the biggest buffoon who's everrun for president,

^Spot on. How anyone can support that dullard defies good common sense.

[Tahuyaman]

^Spot on. How anyone can support that dullard defies good common sense.

I can't figure out how and why anyone could consider voting for him. It's astonishing that the office of the president of the United States is that disrespected now days.

[MisterVeritis]

I can't figure out how and why anyone could consider voting for him. It's astonishing that the office of the president of the United States is that disrespected now days.
Both of you will still have time between Tuesday and November to get used to the idea of President Trump.

[Tahuyaman]

Both of you will still have time between Tuesday and November to get used to the idea of President Trump.

I can't even imagine how much of a disaster a Trump administration would be.

[MisterVeritis]

I can't even imagine how much of a disaster a Trump administration would be.
You will have plenty of time between Tuesday and late January to think up as many frightening scenarios as you want to. I will be happy when he builds the wall and deports the millions of undocumented Democrats and so-called refugees.

[Tahuyaman]

You will have plenty of time between Tuesday and late January to think up as many frightening scenarios as you want to. I will be happy if when he builds the wall and deports the millions of undocumented Democrats and so-called refugees.

I believe that Trump would resign the presidency after about one year should he actually win. He would not be able to be this deal maker that he purports himself to be. He knows this wall of his is a fantasy.

Once he he realized that he isn't the unifier he dreams of being, he would just throw his usual juvenile hissy fit and quit.

He better have a quality VP if by some freak of nature he wins the election.

[MisterVeritis]

I believe that Trump would resign the presidency after about one year should he actually win. He would not be able to be this deal maker that he purports himself to be. He knows this wall of his is a fantasy.

Once he he realized that he isn't the unifier he dreams of being, he would just throw his usual juvenile hissy fit and quit.

He better have a quality VP if by some freak of nature he wins the election.
I have always enjoyed your sense of humor.

[Tahuyaman]

I actually believe that he would not complete his term if by some strange quirk of nature he got elected.

But, I do have a pretty good sense of humor.

[kilgram]

Trump is running outside of the Establishment. The Establishment are the globalist elites that are the puppet masters of our typical politicians.
Trump is not out of establishment.

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[The Xl]

Trump wants to end the health insurance monopoly on the country, and that alone won him the debate on substance in a landslide.

[Peter1469]

You would rather the party run the debate?

There are many options. There are think tanks, their are professional organizations. There are professional mediators, etc.

The press is suppose to report on the news.

I suppose Americans never saw different so to many it isn't possible....

[Dr. Who]

Could be.

my guess is he went with the lowest bidder.

but if every builder in town is doing the same thing what would you do if you were trump?

pay millions more than your competitors for the same work?

I dont think even liberals would do that.
Sometimes the lowest bid isn't really the lowest bid - it can turn into the most expensive bid when you have to redo things or your job site becomes the focus of an INS investigation.

[Dr. Who]

What does it matter? It is a peace of paper.
A piece of paper that a fair number of businesses are relying upon.

[Peter1469]

A piece of paper that a fair number of businesses are relying upon.

Maybe Mexico will pay for the wall in order to keep NAFTA.

[Matty]

Just stop sending Mexico a welfare check. Period.

[Dr. Who]

I believe that Trump would resign the presidency after about one year should he actually win. He would not be able to be this deal maker that he purports himself to be. He knows this wall of his is a fantasy.

Once he he realized that he isn't the unifier he dreams of being, he would just throw his usual juvenile hissy fit and quit.

He better have a quality VP if by some freak of nature he wins the election.
I can just see him cussing out Congress for rejecting his ideas.

[Green Arrow]

Trump wants to end the health insurance monopoly on the country, and that alone won him the debate on substance in a landslide.

Yes, a billionaire businessman genuinely wants to end an industry's monopoly :rollseyes:

He only wants to end the monopoly to create one of his own.

[Matty]

Trump wants to end the health insurance monopoly on the country, and that alone won him the debate on substance in a landslide.


He he wants single payer. He's just as stupid as all the other liberals like him.

[Dr. Who]

Maybe Mexico will pay for the wall in order to keep NAFTA.
Perhaps El Chappo will start a tunnelling business right afterwards.

[Peter1469]

Perhaps El Chappo will start a tunnelling business right afterwards.

I am sure that he will.

[Tahuyaman]

Trump wants to end the health insurance monopoly on the country, and that alone won him the debate on substance in a landslide.


If if anyone had the best answer about health care issues, it was Ben Carson. Trump is a "me too" guy when it comes to that issue. He's unable to develop an idea of his own.

[Peter1469]

Trump may just hire Carson to fix it once he is president. :smiley:

[Mac-7]

I really still have no idea why CNN thinks it's necessary to have a singer sing the national anthem at the start of their debates. It's not a football game.

Some people here are even offended by the national anthem

That's sad

[Green Arrow]

Some people here are even offended by the national anthem

That's sad

I'm not offended by the national anthem, I just don't see the point in CNN's football game introduction to their debates. Nobody else does it.

[Peter1469]

It is fake when CNN does it. They are pandering.