View Full Version : Disagree??? but still very proud!!!!
zelmo1234
03-06-2016, 07:35 AM
Yesterday I took a few hours during the day to visit one of my favorite people on the planet, My Cousin Barbie! or Barbara to others.
We have always been best of friends through our childhood, and now her family and mine, including my first Wife are still very close.
As you will see we have totally Different Views, but enjoy hearing each others point of view, and still encourage one another, pray for each other, and sincerely wish the best.
So her newest cause is the ANTI WAL-MART crusade, as she calls it, and she has been around the country meeting with political leaders, and people that can help the cause.
She is the Barbara in this add, that I am sure many of you have seen.
So While I don't support the cause and believe that she is on the wrong side of this issue. I AM STILL VERY PROUD OF HER AND HER EFFORTS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQ6Rao7ysg&feature=player_embedded
Peter1469
03-06-2016, 08:16 AM
Walmart is an example of capitalism gone wrong. We need small mom and pops not big box stores that kill communities.
Adam Smith's invisible hand is morality.
Yesterday I took a few hours during the day to visit one of my favorite people on the planet, My Cousin Barbie! or Barbara to others.
We have always been best of friends through our childhood, and now her family and mine, including my first Wife are still very close.
As you will see we have totally Different Views, but enjoy hearing each others point of view, and still encourage one another, pray for each other, and sincerely wish the best.
So her newest cause is the ANTI WAL-MART crusade, as she calls it, and she has been around the country meeting with political leaders, and people that can help the cause.
She is the Barbara in this add, that I am sure many of you have seen.
So While I don't support the cause and believe that she is on the wrong side of this issue. I AM STILL VERY PROUD OF HER AND HER EFFORTS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQ6Rao7ysg&feature=player_embedded
And yet the right has worked hard, very hard for the last 40 years to lower wages, cut benefits and transfer the wealth of the working poor and the middle class to the top.
And you still support your parties efforts to destroy the nation?
Why?
Explain to me just how lower wages, no bennies and no opportunities for anyone other than the top 3% is good for the nation.
That is literally your stand, your policy, so explain it if you can.
Peter1469
03-06-2016, 09:36 AM
And yet the right has worked hard, very hard for the last 40 years to lower wages, cut benefits and transfer the wealth of the working poor and the middle class to the top.
And you still support your parties efforts to destroy the nation?
Why?
Explain to me just how lower wages, no bennies and no opportunities for anyone other than the top 3% is good for the nation.
That is literally your stand, your policy, so explain it if you can.
Incorrect. Fiscal conservative policies grow the economy. Not stunt it like the tax and spenders do.
Additionally globalism cut down on the middle class wages.
Private Pickle
03-06-2016, 09:38 AM
Why do people feel the need to change organizations to meet their needs vs. finding an organization that fulfills their needs?
Incorrect. Fiscal conservative policies grow the economy. Not stunt it like the tax and spenders do.
Additionally globalism cut down on the middle class wages.
Reality proves you wrong, as always.
Why do people feel the need to change organizations to meet their needs vs. finding an organization that fulfills their needs?
Because those organizations no longer exist.
Private Pickle
03-06-2016, 09:50 AM
Because those organizations no longer exist.
lol
lol
Petes twin troll?
Is that seriously the best you two have to offer?
Peter1469
03-06-2016, 10:01 AM
Reality proves you wrong, as always.
Not really. One example:
Private Pickle
03-06-2016, 10:06 AM
Petes twin troll?
Is that seriously the best you two have to offer?
I mean what kind of statement is that? "Because they don't exist". We have tens of thousands of businesses in this country and there isn't one that meets the needs of the people in this video to the degree that they have to change Walmart?
It's even more ridiculous when you say it out loud.
Not really. One example:
See the steep declines? Those are the results, why can't you cons ever learn that?
I mean what kind of statement is that? "Because they don't exist". We have tens of thousands of businesses in this country and there isn't one that meets the needs of the people in this video to the degree that they have to change Walmart?
It's even more ridiculous when you say it out loud.
Figured it would be too much for you.
In lots of places, red states mostly, walmart is the only game in town, or don't you know that?
Sure in your rightwing utopia the streets are paved in gold and everyone can pick and chose between 6 figure jobs, but in the real world, due to conservative trickle down policies and one party rule in many states, minimum wage is the best a lot people can get, becasue.......here it comes........nothing else is available.
It's a lot to grasp I know but mull it over, you just might have what it takes to get it, lord knows your twin doesn't.
MisterVeritis
03-06-2016, 11:35 AM
Walmart is an example of capitalism gone wrong. We need small mom and pops not big box stores that kill communities.
Adam Smith's invisible hand is morality.
Actually, it is self-interest. If the workers don't get paid enough let them upgrade their skills or start their own companies.
MisterVeritis
03-06-2016, 11:42 AM
And yet the right has worked hard, very hard for the last 40 years to lower wages, cut benefits and transfer the wealth of the working poor and the middle class to the top.
And you still support your parties efforts to destroy the nation?
Why?
Explain to me just how lower wages, no bennies and no opportunities for anyone other than the top 3% is good for the nation.
That is literally your stand, your policy, so explain it if you can.
Absolutely PNW. Throughout my entire working lifetime, I have worked tirelessly to lower wages, cut benefits and transfer wealth from the working poor and the middle class to the top.
My problem is that I just cannot figure out how to do those things. See, I have a problem. When the economy is growing the demand for skilled, competent workers grows faster than their supply. So when someone like Reagan, or Gingrich comes along and gets as much government as possible out of the way of businesses everyone's incomes go up. Quandary. Do I then vote for the Party of Plunder, the Democratic Party, to obstruct businesses so wages will remain flat?
And, if you reflect for a moment, how can I transfer wealth from people who don't have any to the people at the top? Should I go door to door and demand money from each of them? And how do I know where to send the money?
I admit it, alongside a genius like you I am a bumbling idiot. Although you give me enormous credit for doing this noble task I just cannot figure out how. Maybe you can offer some tips.
Thanks in advance.
Private Pickle
03-06-2016, 01:01 PM
Figured it would be too much for you.
In lots of places, red states mostly, walmart is the only game in town, or don't you know that?
Sure in your rightwing utopia the streets are paved in gold and everyone can pick and chose between 6 figure jobs, but in the real world, due to conservative trickle down policies and one party rule in many states, minimum wage is the best a lot people can get, becasue.......here it comes........nothing else is available.
It's a lot to grasp I know but mull it over, you just might have what it takes to get it, lord knows your twin doesn't.
Victim much? I am not buying your hyperbole based perception of the world. Sorry.
Victim much? I am not buying your hyperbole based perception of the world. Sorry.
Whatever.
I hope you don't think I or anyone else is buying your hyperbole BS. As to play victim, well the right has that market cornered and has had for decades.
Private Pickle
03-06-2016, 01:53 PM
Whatever.
I hope you don't think I or anyone else is buying your hyperbole BS. As to play victim, well the right has that market cornered and has had for decades.
But I'm not selling anything. Just calling it like I see it. You have to resort to name calling and classifying anyone who disagrees with you as having a specific political ideology. I mean Pavlov called and he wants his proof back...
Subdermal
03-06-2016, 02:48 PM
Absolutely PNW. Throughout my entire working lifetime, I have worked tirelessly to lower wages, cut benefits and transfer wealth from the working poor and the middle class to the top.
My problem is that I just cannot figure out how to do those things. See, I have a problem. When the economy is growing the demand for skilled, competent workers grows faster than their supply. So when someone like Reagan, or Gingrich comes along and gets as much government as possible out of the way of businesses everyone's incomes go up. Quandary. Do I then vote for the Party of Plunder, the Democratic Party, to obstruct businesses so wages will remain flat?
And, if you reflect for a moment, how can I transfer wealth from people who don't have any to the people at the top? Should I go door to door and demand money from each of them? And how do I know where to send the money?
I admit it, alongside a genius like you I am a bumbling idiot. Although you give me enormous credit for doing this noble task I just cannot figure out how. Maybe you can offer some tips.
Thanks in advance.
Apparently PNW's leftist talking points only take him so far. I'm waiting for an answer to your cry for help as well. I can't assist you here, standing in the shadow of PNW's enormous intellect - nor should we expect to be of value, what with the natural resource of PNW to help us through this time of need.
:lol:
zelmo1234
03-06-2016, 09:24 PM
And yet the right has worked hard, very hard for the last 40 years to lower wages, cut benefits and transfer the wealth of the working poor and the middle class to the top.
And you still support your parties efforts to destroy the nation?
Why?
Explain to me just how lower wages, no bennies and no opportunities for anyone other than the top 3% is good for the nation.
That is literally your stand, your policy, so explain it if you can.
Well of course it is not good for the country. but not understanding that Business exists to make money for the owners and share holders is not the problem of the right.
People in this country have lost wages as the manufacturing sector has disappeared. Illegal immigration drives wages down further? those are not things that the right advocates.
The way to raise wages, it to have more jobs than qualified workers. The policies of the left prevents that, not the policies of the right.
zelmo1234
03-06-2016, 09:43 PM
Figured it would be too much for you.
In lots of places, red states mostly, walmart is the only game in town, or don't you know that?
Sure in your rightwing utopia the streets are paved in gold and everyone can pick and chose between 6 figure jobs, but in the real world, due to conservative trickle down policies and one party rule in many states, minimum wage is the best a lot people can get, becasue.......here it comes........nothing else is available.
It's a lot to grasp I know but mull it over, you just might have what it takes to get it, lord knows your twin doesn't.
You are correct, manufacturing jobs have been taxed out of existence, and all that remains is service jobs, unemployment, remains high taxation, regulations, the ACA, and many other factors have turned a once thriving full time economy into a part time service economy. And despite all factors pointing to this and the fact that Obama has not been able to turn things around in 7 years, the liberals still stick to their policies.
Hillary, spouts lies and deception on the campaign trail, knowing full well that her husbands greatest economic success, was the HUGE tax cuts of 96, She also knows that he presided over the dot com bubble that burst and the nations was slipping into recession as he left office.
Sure booming economies will create bubbles, but racing to the bottom is not the answer.
You are correct, manufacturing jobs have been taxed out of existence,
Not true, the mfg in this country has been 'walmarted' out existence, driven out by ultra cheap china made goods that do not last and have to replaced in half the time.
Has nothing to do with the spoon fed party line of 'taxes'. Time for people like you to wake up to the lies your party has fed you for generations.
all that remains is service jobs, unemployment, remains high taxation, regulations, the ACA, and many other factors have turned a once thriving full time economy into a part time service economy. And despite all factors pointing to this and the fact that Obama has not been able to turn things around in 7 years, the liberals still stick to their policies.
Hillary, spouts lies and deception on the campaign trail, knowing full well that her husbands greatest economic success, was the HUGE tax cuts of 96, She also knows that he presided over the dot com bubble that burst and the nations was slipping into recession as he left office.
Sure booming economies will create bubbles, but racing to the bottom is not the answer.
Is the party line all you have?
Don't you find that sad, or do you even notice it?
Race to the bottom is the conservative plan, and it's working.
But I'm not selling anything. Just calling it like I see it. You have to resort to name calling and classifying anyone who disagrees with you as having a specific political ideology. I mean Pavlov called and he wants his proof back...
Another con that can't hold an honest conversation, not surprising.
My search continues......
Well of course it is not good for the country. but not understanding that Business exists to make money for the owners and share holders is not the problem of the right.
People in this country have lost wages as the manufacturing sector has disappeared. Illegal immigration drives wages down further? those are not things that the right advocates.
The way to raise wages, it to have more jobs than qualified workers. The policies of the left prevents that, not the policies of the right.
So you can't answer the question as to why you fight so hard to lower wages?
That figures.
Do you know you are anti-American at least, you do know that much don't you?
Private Pickle
03-07-2016, 09:21 AM
Another con that can't hold an honest conversation, not surprising.
My search continues......
LOL thanks for proving my point Pavlov!
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