Why aren't you winning?

[Cigar]

Republican activists are incredulous: Why can't Republican Mitt Romney seem to break open a tight race with President Barack Obama given the nation's sluggish economy and conservative enthusiasm to beat the Democrat?

"He ought to be killing Obama, and he's clearly not doing that," said 32-year-old R.J. Robinson, one of the thousands of activists attending the annual Values Voters Summit this weekend. "He should be doing better."

Their sentiments were echoed in interviews with more than a dozen GOP activists and social conservative leaders who attended the annual gathering focused on social and cultural issues and sponsored by the Family Research Council.

"He needs to be more visible," said Dawn Hawkins, who works for the anti-pornography group Morality In Media. Even though Romney and his allies outspent Obama and his backers for months on TV in battleground states, Hawkins said: "He's not up on TV very often. He has very few ads running on TV and radio. Obama has ads everywhere."

"If the Republican Party loses this election, conservatives will have had it," Fischer said. "They will be done, finished."

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-15/gop-activists-to-romney-why-arent-you-winning

[Chris]

The truth is Obama ought to be killing Romney at this point yet it's virtually neck and neck. It's Obama's to lose, and he seems to trying his damdedest to do just that.

[Cigar]

The truth is Obama ought to be killing Romney at this point yet it's virtually neck and neck. It's Obama's to lose, and he seems to trying his damdedest to do just that.

Is that your best shot? :)

[Smartmouthwoman]

Don't get excited, Cigar... slow & steady wins the race:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c22.0.403.403/p403x403/548513_467823759925264_999682432_n.jpg

[birddog]

The truth is Obama ought to be killing Romney at this point yet it's virtually neck and neck. It's Obama's to lose, and he seems to trying his damdedest to do just that.

You are totally correct! It's unremarkable that Cigar can't see it.

[URF8]

If Obama is reelected it will be time to scuttle the ship.

[Akula]

If Obama is reelected it will be time to scuttle the ship.

I'm in.

[sparty]

I'm in.

As am I.

[Akula]

The tree of Liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

[Cigar]

The tree of Liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.

Yea ... like NeoNutsJobs Pissing on whatever they don't like ... :)

You know the Republicans/Conservatives/TeaBaggers have no more street credit on Patriotism after last week of Country First America bashing.

Take the crap and shove it.

[Akula]

Yea ... like NeoNutsJobs Pissing on whatever they don't like ... :)

You know the Republicans/Conservatives/TeaBaggers have no more street credit on Patriotism after last week of Country First America bashing.

Take the crap and shove it.

See you in the field.

[Smartmouthwoman]

Yea ... like NeoNutsJobs Pissing on whatever they don't like ... :)

You know the Republicans/Conservatives/TeaBaggers have no more street credit on Patriotism after last week of Country First America bashing.

Take the crap and shove it.

Election 2012: North Carolina PresidentNorth Carolina: Romney 51%, Obama 45%

Friday, September 14, 2012

Oops: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/north_carolina/election_2012_north_carolina_president

[Cigar]

Polls Shmolls ...

President Barack Obama widened his lead over Republican challenger Mitt Romney to 7 percentage points in a Reuters/Ipsos poll of likely voters on Thursday, the latest survey to show the Democrat ahead in the run-up to the November 6 election.

The daily online poll asked 990 likely voters over the previous four days which candidate they would pick if the vote took place today, with 48 percent choosing Obama and 41 percent picking Romney.

The gap has been widening since Obama grabbed the lead in the rolling poll on September 7 when he scooped up 46 percent of likely voters to Romney's 44 percent after the Democratic convention.

"What that really means is that Obama is in good shape," said Ipsos pollster Julia Clark, attributing some of Obama's uptick to the slowly improving sentiment toward the direction of the country shown in Wednesday's telephone poll.



http://sfluxe.com/2012/09/13/obama-widens-lead-over-romney-to-seven-points-reutersipsos-poll/

[Smartmouthwoman]

Enjoy your oblivion, Cigar... it'll soon be over and I have a feeling we won't see you again. 49 days and counting:

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/politifake.org/image/political/1208/romney-wins-landslide-vik-battaile-republican-democrat-obama-politics-1345798306.png

[Cigar]

Enjoy your oblivion, Cigar... it'll soon be over and I have a feeling we won't see you again. 49 days and counting:

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/politifake.org/image/political/1208/romney-wins-landslide-vik-battaile-republican-democrat-obama-politics-1345798306.png

Betting your Home on it? :)

[Stuck_In_California]

Republican activists are incredulous: Why can't Republican Mitt Romney seem to break open a tight race with President Barack Obama given the nation's sluggish economy and conservative enthusiasm to beat the Democrat? ............


!!!

HOUSE – Electoral Votes:

158 – Solid Democrat
26 – Leaning Democrat

TOTAL DEMOCRAT: 184

196 – Solid Republican
33 – Leaning Republican

TOTAL REPUBLICAN: 229

22 – Toss-up

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

===

SENATE – Electoral Votes (50 Total Needed for Majority)

30 – Democrat / 10 Solid / 7 Leaning Democrat

TOTAL DEMOCRAT: 37

42 – Republican / 5 Solid / 5 Leaning Republican

TOTAL REPUBLICAN: 52

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

===

TOSS UP STATES IN SENATE:

Maine – Angus King (D) former governor in a 3-way election right now
Massachusettes – Warren (D) v. Brown (R)
Missouri – McCaskill (D) v. Akin (R)
Montana – Tester (D) v. Rehberg (R)
Nevada – Berkley (D) [under investigation] v. Dean Heller (R)
Virginia – Kain (D) v. George Allen (R)

LEANING REPUBLICAN:

Wisconsin - Baldwin (D) v. Thompson (R)
North Dakota - H.Heitkamp (D) v. R. Berg (R)
Nebraska – Bob Kerry (D) v. D. Fischer (R)
Indiana - J. Donnelly (D) v. Mourdock (R)
Arizona – R. Carmona (D)[former Bush cabinet] v. J. Flake (R)

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

[Cigar]

Looks like Voter Suppression is hitting a few snags ...

If the deck isn't stacked ... you don't have a chance, because you don't have enough people who LIKE YOU!

[Stuck_In_California]

Why Romney Will Win
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/09/14/why_romney_will_win_115452.html


Now that both conventions are over, the dimensions of the likely Romney triumph are becoming clear. Both through an analysis of the polling and an examination of the rhetoric, the parameters of the victory are emerging.

Start with the polling. It appears that the bulk of the Obama post-convention bounce has been in blue states where his left-oriented convention stirred up the enthusiasm of an already committed group of voters. Among likely voters identified in The Washington Post poll -- taken after the conventions -- Obama holds a slim one-point edge. And an analysis of Rasmussen's state-by-state likely voter data indicates a tie in the the battleground states.

But it's not really a tie at all. All pollsters are using 2008 models of voter turnout. Some are combining '04 and '08 but skewing their samples to '08 numbers. African Americans cast 11 percent of the national vote in '04, but their participation swelled to 13 percent in '08. These 2 million new black voters backed Obama overwhelmingly. Will they come out in such numbers again? Will college and under 30 voters do so as well? Will Latino turnout be at historic highs? All these questions have to be answered "yes" for the polling samples so widely published to be accurate.............<SNIP>

Rest of article: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/09/14/why_romney_will_win_115452.html

[Stuck_In_California]

Looks like Voter Suppression is hitting a few snags .......
Nobody is suppressing anything you imbecile

[sparty]

Obama has not passed a budget, why would you vote for him?

We have a budget in our household.

[patrickt]

Republican activists are incredulous: Why can't Republican Mitt Romney seem to break open a tight race with President Barack Obama given the nation's sluggish economy and conservative enthusiasm to beat the Democrat?

"He ought to be killing Obama, and he's clearly not doing that," said 32-year-old R.J. Robinson, one of the thousands of activists attending the annual Values Voters Summit this weekend. "He should be doing better."

Their sentiments were echoed in interviews with more than a dozen GOP activists and social conservative leaders who attended the annual gathering focused on social and cultural issues and sponsored by the Family Research Council.

"He needs to be more visible," said Dawn Hawkins, who works for the anti-pornography group Morality In Media. Even though Romney and his allies outspent Obama and his backers for months on TV in battleground states, Hawkins said: "He's not up on TV very often. He has very few ads running on TV and radio. Obama has ads everywhere."

"If the Republican Party loses this election, conservatives will have had it," Fischer said. "They will be done, finished."

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-15/gop-activists-to-romney-why-arent-you-winning


Winning what? The media? The polls? To the best of my knowledge the election is still a few weeks off. Nice try, though, Cigar. George will be delighted.

[Cigar]

Nobody is suppressing anything you imbecile

I got your "imbecile" member personal attack ... right here :thefinger: and right BackAtCha ... sport.

You see in the Midwest we prefer you deliver your personal junk in person or stick to the facts. ... jack.

[Smartmouthwoman]

I got your "imbecile" member personal attack ... right here :thefinger: and right BackAtCha ... sport.

You see in the Midwest we prefer you deliver your personal junk in person or stick to the facts. ... jack.


Highly intelligent response.

49 days and counting, Cigar. Are you nervous yet?

[Cigar]

Obama has not passed a budget, why would you vote for him?

We have a budget in our household.

I also have a budget in my household, so did you Vote for Bush for his second term?

[Cigar]

Highly intelligent response.

49 days and counting, Cigar. Are you nervous yet?

Well ... you should know me by now ... I don't take any shit from anyone.

So if you dish it out, expect a counter punch ... that how I roll. :)

[Smartmouthwoman]

Well ... you should know me by now ... I don't take any shit from anyone.

So if you dish it out, expect a counter punch ... that how I roll. :)


Sometimes less is more. Maybe if you didn't have such a gigantic chip on your shoulder, you wouldn't get so much shit from everybody.

4,277 posts... do you think you've converted anybody to Obama since you've been here?

[sparty]

I also have a budget in my household, so did you Vote for Bush for his second term?

I'm new here, you couldn't possibly know my voting record.

[Cigar]

I'm new here, you couldn't possibly know my voting record.


That's why they call it a question ... how new do you have to be to answer one?

[Carygrant]

The simple matter is that the Republicans are fielding a candidate who is probably the weakest one in living memory . He does not have winner stamped on his forehead or in his eyes .
He is such a nerd he had to use his wife to plead for him at the Nomination convention and then had a mumbling and senile ex film star endorse him in the most idiotic manner yet seen in these jamboree events .
If it were not for the fiddling Rasmussen polls , he would be sitting way behind and desperately asking Goldman Sachs for more money and ways to fiddle required results .
Mitt is living up to his publicity -- a stupid Mutt .

[sparty]

That's why they call it a question ... how new do you have to be to answer one?

So you voted for Obama and you will vote for him again.

[keymanjim]

The simple matter is that the Republicans are fielding a candidate who is probably the weakest one in living memory . He does not have winner stamped on his forehead or in his eyes .

Romney has decades of business successes. Obama was fired from his job of scooping ice cream.

If you think obama is a good leader we'll send him over to you.

[Agravan]

Nobody is suppressing anything you imbecile

Actually, there is voter suppression going on. Take a look at what Democrats do every election to try to avoid counting military ballots since the military usually votes strong conservative.

[Cigar]

Actually, there is voter suppression going on. Take a look at what Democrats do every election to try to avoid counting military ballots since the military usually votes strong conservative.

Please post your Link ... not your Republican talking points. :)

[Mister D]

Please post your Link ... not your Republican talking points. :)

:smiley_ROFLMAO:Coming from you!?

[keymanjim]

Please post your Link ... not your Republican talking points. :)
Here ya go. (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare)

[GrumpyDog]

Not enough money has been spent yet. The Reps need to buy some more district managers, so Obama can be removed from those ballots too (just a day or two before election will do nicely).

Besides, the people with the most money, should have the most say, while the people with little money, should have little say, and the people with no money, should have no say. That is the way a Capitalist Republic works, and will work even more efficiently, once the CEO in Chief, Romney is sworn in by the share holders.

[Cigar]

Here ya go. (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare)

I agree ... you are. :wink:

[Cigar]

Not enough money has been spent yet. The Reps need to buy some more district managers, so Obama can be removed from those ballots too (just a day or two before election will do nicely).

Besides, the people with the most money, should have the most say, while the people with little money, should have little say, and the people with no money, should have no say. That is the way a Capitalist Republic works, and will work even more efficiently, once the CEO in Chief, Romney is sworn in by the share holders.


Heaven forbid you leave it up to Democracy :)

[keymanjim]

I agree ... you are. :wink:
Pretty lame response. Even from you.

[Smartmouthwoman]

Heaven forbid you leave it up to Democracy :)

Or Geoge Soros.

LOL... the Dems are the ones with their hands in the pockets of the rich & famous. Good try, though. It's always worth a shot to try and deflect from the fact that Obama's out fundraising as we speak today. And he sent an email to his supporters last month bragging about bringing in more $$$$ than the Reps.

There's only one way Obama can win a second term and that's buy it... but he's running out of time. Now that the ME has turned against him, he's also running out of support.

Guess as long as he can count on minorities and gays, he still thinks he can pull it off.

Whatta fool.

[Cigar]

Pretty lame response. Even from you.


Going with card that are dealt.

[Cigar]

Or Geoge Soros.

LOL... the Dems are the ones with their hands in the pockets of the rich & famous. Good try, though. It's always worth a shot to try and deflect from the fact that Obama's out fundraising as we speak today. And he sent an email to his supporters last month bragging about bringing in more $$$$ than the Reps.

There's only one way Obama can win a second term and that's buy it... but he's running out of time. Now that the ME has turned against him, he's also running out of support.

Guess as long as he can count on minorities and gays, he still thinks he can pull it off.

Whatta fool.


When did you become rich & famous ... or did you hear that from someone? :)

[keymanjim]

Going with card that are dealt.
EBT cards aren't accepted at this establishment.

[Smartmouthwoman]

When did you become rich & famous ... or did you hear that from someone? :)


Follow the money, dear. Or do you think Obama's been fundraising in middle-class homes? Nope, the rich have been in Barack's court since the get-go. He only pretends to support 'taxing the rich' to pander to the middle class even as he's racking up record-breaking donations from his rich friends.

Here's the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/10/AR2008041004045.html?hpid=topnews):

[T]hose with wealth and power also have played a critical role in creating Obama's record-breaking fundraising machine, and their generosity has earned them a prominent voice in shaping his campaign. Seventy-nine "bundlers," five of them billionaires, have tapped their personal networks to raise at least $200,000 each. They have helped the campaign recruit more than 27,000 donors to write checks for $2,300, the maximum allowed. Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama's total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million.

[Deadwood]

Republican activists are incredulous: Why can't Republican Mitt Romney seem to break open a tight race with President Barack Obama given the nation's sluggish economy and conservative enthusiasm to beat the Democrat?

"He ought to be killing Obama, and he's clearly not doing that," said 32-year-old R.J. Robinson, one of the thousands of activists attending the annual Values Voters Summit this weekend. "He should be doing better."

Their sentiments were echoed in interviews with more than a dozen GOP activists and social conservative leaders who attended the annual gathering focused on social and cultural issues and sponsored by the Family Research Council.

"He needs to be more visible," said Dawn Hawkins, who works for the anti-pornography group Morality In Media. Even though Romney and his allies outspent Obama and his backers for months on TV in battleground states, Hawkins said: "He's not up on TV very often. He has very few ads running on TV and radio. Obama has ads everywhere."

"If the Republican Party loses this election, conservatives will have had it," Fischer said. "They will be done, finished."

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-15/gop-activists-to-romney-why-arent-you-winning

It is always a compliment when an opponent emulates me.


This is a wonderful mirror post of one I offered a week ago with the same theme, why isn't Obama ahead?

It is so comforting to see it reversed as it concedes that, based on the facts, Obama should be doing better. The rock star, uber campaigner, what you Obama bots consider the perfect man who has made not one mistake, whose trials are all due to either Bush. the Republican Party or the fact, as he stated, the American people were not "ready for me" is only tied with the man you all have condemned for everything including attaching blame for him for the Muslim attacks on US Embassies.

Thank you for acknowledging, in typical back handed fashion that the man you consider to be inferior to Obama [and maybe the Human race] is neck and neck in the polls with the guy you give Messiah status.

Hope and Change - Forward!

[Trinnity]

Please post your Link ... not your Republican talking points. :)Hypocrisy much?

Your usual sources:
NYT
NPR
Huffpo
Mediamatters
DemocraticUnderground
ThinkProgress
Maddowblog
Talkingpointsmemo

:slap2:

[URF8]

Yea ... like NeoNutsJobs Pissing on whatever they don't like ... :)

You know the Republicans/Conservatives/TeaBaggers have no more street credit on Patriotism after last week of Country First America bashing.

Take the crap and shove it.
I'll look for you.

[Cigar]

Hypocrisy much?

Your usual sources:
NYT
NPR
Huffpo
Mediamatters
DemocraticUnderground
ThinkProgress
Maddowblog
Talkingpointsmemo

:slap2:

... you left our a couple ...

Washing Post
Fox News

Hell even Fox New reported Obama leading, :)

[sparty]

... you left our a couple ...

Washing Post
Fox News

Hell even Fox New reported Obama leading, :)

When?

[Cigar]

http://www.carlsontoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/fireCOLOR.gif

[IGetItAlready]

http://www.carlsontoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/fireCOLOR.gif

Now show us the cartoon of Obama flying off to campaign in Vegas during the crisis.

[Stuck_In_California]

The Miitfire

http://mikerowse.com/wp-content/uploads/obama_anti_christ_39846.jpg

[Trinnity]

... you left our a couple ...
I didn't miss a thing. The liberal sources you love to quote are a joke, man.

[Mainecoons]

What we have here is that rarest of rarest gems--a Cigar thread that actually raises a valid point. The Romney campaign sucks. The critics are absolutely right, he should be stomping the fraud in the White House into the mud of his failed policies on everything, the latest just being his appeasement of the Muslims.

This thread is an example that a blind squirrel will find an acorn once in a while. And we should thank said squirrel for raising our awareness of this and letting said Romney campaign know directly that they are screwing up.

Thank you Cigar. I realize that you probably thought you were slamming someone but what you are really doing is illustrating that conservatives, unlike liberals, can learn from their mistakes.

Carry on! :rofl:

[Peter1469]

The MSM is going all out for the regime.

[Chris]

What we have here is that rarest of rarest gems--a Cigar thread that actually raises a valid point. The Romney campaign sucks. The critics are absolutely right, he should be stomping the fraud in the White House into the mud of his failed policies on everything, the latest just being his appeasement of the Muslims.

This thread is an example that a blind squirrel will find an acorn once in a while. And we should thank said squirrel for raising our awareness of this and letting said Romney campaign know directly that they are screwing up.

Thank you Cigar. I realize that you probably thought you were slamming someone but what you are really doing is illustrating that conservatives, unlike liberals, can learn from their mistakes.

Carry on! :rofl:

And even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.

Now if cigar wasn't just a troll for the DNC he'd also see the Obama presidency sucks as well.