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exotix
03-23-2016, 01:54 PM
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Supreme Court Appears Headed for Tie in Obamacare Case

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/supreme-court-appears-headed-tie-obamacare-case-n544316

The U.S. Supreme Court appeared headed for a 4-4 tie after hearing courtroom argument Wednesday in one of the most contentious cases of the term, a battle between religion and birth control.

Two dozen religiously affiliated schools, seminaries, hospitals and charities from around the nation are challenging a provision of Obamacare that requires employers to include coverage for contraceptives in their health care plans.

Houses of worship and their auxiliaries are completely exempt from the requirement.

Lawyers for the religious groups told the Supreme Court Wednesday say they should be, too.

The Obamacare law allows religiously affiliated organizations to opt out of directly providing contraceptive coverage.

Among the law's challengers is an organization of Catholic nuns called The Little Sisters of the Poor, which operates 27 homes for the low-income elderly.

They say the accommodation still makes them complicit in providing access to birth control and abortion, which violates their religious views.

The court's three most conservative justices appeared to agree.

"Hijacking is an apt description of what the government wants," said Chief Justice John Roberts.



Nuns protest against the Affordable Care Act's birth control mandate outside the Supreme Court ahead of oral arguments in Zubik v. Burwell in Washington DC on March 23, 2016.

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_12/1470246/160323-nun-lobby-against-birth-control-yh-0102p_fc5d999432199005c50fcbe0aacaa70f.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

Cigar
03-23-2016, 01:56 PM
Elections or Non-Elections have Consequences :laugh:

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 01:57 PM
Supreme Court Appears Headed for Tie in Obamacare Case

Excellent. Make the presidential election a referendum on the affordable care act like the mid term elections were.

exotix
03-23-2016, 02:03 PM
Supreme Court Appears Headed for Tie in Obamacare Case

Excellent. Make the presidential election a referendum on the affordable care act like the mid term elections were.Sounds very *emperor-ish and authoritarian* ... you know, like you've been calling Obama the last 7 years.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 02:04 PM
Sounds very *emperor-ish and authoritarian* ... you know, like you've been calling Obama the last 7 years.
You have at least one screw loose. Flathead, or cross-tip?

Cigar
03-23-2016, 02:05 PM
Supreme Court Appears Headed for Tie in Obamacare Case

Excellent. Make the presidential election a referendum on the affordable care act like the mid term elections were.


:loco: Again?

When will they learn ... YOU LOST!

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 02:08 PM
:loco: Again?

When will they learn ... YOU LOST!
Even in a war that is won some battles are lost. The mid-terms were not lost by Republicans.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 02:09 PM
Supreme Court Appears Headed for Tie in Obamacare Case

Excellent. Make the presidential election a referendum on the affordable care act like the mid term elections were.


Sounds very *emperor-ish and authoritarian* ... you know, like you've been calling Obama the last 7 years.

you'll need to explain how a referendum for the people to vote upon is considered "emperor-ish or authoritarian"?

exotix
03-23-2016, 02:11 PM
you'll need to explain how a referendum for the people to vote upon is considered "emperor-ish or authoritarian"?Sure ... here's the example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 02:12 PM
Even in a war that is won some battles are lost. The mid-terms were not lost by Republicans.

The mid term elections were largely a referendum on the Obama agenda in general and specifically the affordable care act. The people who vowed to eliminate it won a decisive victory. They blew it when they failed to live up to their campaign promise.

Cigar
03-23-2016, 02:12 PM
Even in a war that is won some battles are lost. The mid-terms were not lost by Republicans.

Yea ... that really helped the GOP :laugh:

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 02:15 PM
Sure ... here's the example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

I'll you a mulligan. Please explain how a referendum for the people to vote upon is an authoritarian or emperor-ish concept?

Maybe the question is too clear for you to understand?

exotix
03-23-2016, 02:17 PM
I'll you a mulligan. Please explain how a referendum for the people to vote upon is an authoritarian or emperor-ish concept?

Maybe the question is too clear for you to understand?You must be delusional to not know what a referendum is given you've been doing it since Obamas' first inauguration.

domer76
03-23-2016, 02:18 PM
Just In

Supreme Court Appears Headed for Tie in Obamacare Case

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/supreme-court-appears-headed-tie-obamacare-case-n544316

The U.S. Supreme Court appeared headed for a 4-4 tie after hearing courtroom argument Wednesday in one of the most contentious cases of the term, a battle between religion and birth control.

Two dozen religiously affiliated schools, seminaries, hospitals and charities from around the nation are challenging a provision of Obamacare that requires employers to include coverage for contraceptives in their health care plans.

Houses of worship and their auxiliaries are completely exempt from the requirement.

Lawyers for the religious groups told the Supreme Court Wednesday say they should be, too.

The Obamacare law allows religiously affiliated organizations to opt out of directly providing contraceptive coverage.

Among the law's challengers is an organization of Catholic nuns called The Little Sisters of the Poor, which operates 27 homes for the low-income elderly.

They say the accommodation still makes them complicit in providing access to birth control and abortion, which violates their religious views.

The court's three most conservative justices appeared to agree.

"Hijacking is an apt description of what the government wants," said Chief Justice John Roberts.



Nuns protest against the Affordable Care Act's birth control mandate outside the Supreme Court ahead of oral arguments in Zubik v. Burwell in Washington DC on March 23, 2016.

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_12/1470246/160323-nun-lobby-against-birth-control-yh-0102p_fc5d999432199005c50fcbe0aacaa70f.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg




They're complaining about possibly having to provide birth control for their 27 homes FOR THE ELDERLY? Priceless!

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 02:21 PM
Yea ... that really helped the GOP :laugh:
Establishment Republicans failed the voters. The voters won that battle. Do you understand the difference?

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 02:23 PM
They're complaining about possibly having to provide birth control for their 27 homes FOR THE ELDERLY? Priceless!
You do not understand tyranny, do you? Priceless!

exotix
03-23-2016, 02:25 PM
They're complaining about possibly having to provide birth control for their 27 homes FOR THE ELDERLY? Priceless!http://i68.tinypic.com/mkzmlv.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-glzIs5jI

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 02:25 PM
I'll you a mulligan. Please explain how a referendum for the people to vote upon is an authoritarian or emperor-ish concept?

Maybe the question is too clear for you to understand?


You must be delusional to not know what a referendum is given you've been doing it since Obamas' first inauguration.

I gave you a mulligan and your second shot landed in the water ten yards off the tee.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 02:35 PM
Establishment Republicans failed the voters. The voters won that battle. Do you understand the difference?

Correct. Establishment Republicans caved in under liberal media pressure and turned their backs on the voters who put them in charge.

If the Republican Party is in trouble, it is because they continue to compromise the supposed conservative principles they claim to stand for.

Once people get to Washington DC, they seem to seek the acceptance of the main stream media. Republicans need to understand that they will never gain the acceptance of the media and millions of people out here in the real world think that's a positive virtue.

The media is just as disrespected and distrusted as any institution in America.

exotix
03-23-2016, 02:37 PM
Establishment Republicans failed the voters. The voters won that battle. Do you understand the difference?
Correct. Establishment Republicans caved in under liberal media pressure and turned their backs on the voters who put them in charge.

If the Republican Party is in trouble, it is because they continue to compromise the supposed conservative principles they claim to stand for.

Once people get to Washington DC, they seem to seek the acceptance of the main stream media. Republicans need to understand that they will never gain the acceptance of the media and millions of people out here in the real world think that's a positive virtue.

The media is just as disrespected and distrusted as any institution in America.How does one distinguish an establishment (R) from any other (R) ?


LOL

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 02:44 PM
How does one distinguish an establishment (R) from any other (R) ?


LOL

The non establishment R's throw in the towel and don't run for reelection after they become frustrated by the career establishment types.

exotix
03-23-2016, 02:48 PM
The non establishment R's throw in the towel and don't run for reelection after they become frustrated by the career establishment types.Been that way since Reagan raised taxes 11 times because his conservative voodoo economics was destroying America.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:02 PM
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how respecting the will of the people is considered an emperor-ish or authoritarian concept.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:04 PM
Been that way since Reagan raised taxes 11 times because his conservative voodoo economics was destroying America.

his economic policies resulted in the greatest sustained growth of our economy since the end of the Great Depression.

But then, economic growth is not the goal of left wing economic policy. Is it?

exotix
03-23-2016, 03:05 PM
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how respecting the will of the people is considered an emperor-ish or authoritarian concept.Why ? Because you state *The American People* in every utterance ?


Mitch McConnell explains why there will not even be a meeting (unprecedented) with Obamas' SCOTUS nominee after SCOTUS justice Scalias' passing.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2w4ebv4.jpg

Cigar
03-23-2016, 03:09 PM
Establishment Republicans failed the voters. The voters won that battle. Do you understand the difference?


Wrong: they failed 'their' supporters, who just happen to have been the 'MINORITY' in the last two Presidential Elections

See how this works, when you LOSE, you don't still get everything you want.

Why can't The GOP and it's supporters understand that simple FACT!

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:17 PM
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how respecting the will of the people is considered an emperor-ish or authoritarian concept.


Why ? Because you state *The American People* in every utterance ?


No, because you seem to have a lot of trouble with that question. I can only guess as to why.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:19 PM
Wrong: they failed 'their' supporters, who just happen to have been the 'MINORITY' in the last two Presidential Elections

See how this works, when you LOSE, you don't still get everything you want.

Why can't The GOP and it's supporters understand that simple FACT!

don't you believe in or respect the concept of the separation of powers? Do you believe a president is really a King or something?

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:26 PM
I've been considering the impact of having an even number of Supreme Court justices. I actually like the idea. This way, a law which is passed and signed by the POTUS then challenged in the court must clearly pass constitutional muster. It would weaken the strict partisan hacks.

exotix
03-23-2016, 03:29 PM
I've been considering the impact of having an even number of Supreme Court justices. I actually like the idea. This way, a law which is passed and signed by the POTUS then challenged in the court must clearly pass constitutional muster. It would weaken the strict partisan hacks.Except of course for SCOTUS justice Roberts whom you hailed as the conservative messiah ... then became a liberal partisan hack after his vote on Obamacare ... http://i64.tinypic.com/k2g52.gif

Cigar
03-23-2016, 03:29 PM
don't you believe in or respect the concept of the separation of powers? Do you believe a president is really a King or something?


I believe Elections have Consequences :laugh: ... and losing twice, back-2-back sure as hell has.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:30 PM
Except of course for SCOTUS justice Roberts whom you hailed as the conservative messiah ... then became a liberal partisan hack after his vote on Obamacare ... http://i64.tinypic.com/k2g52.gif
Please show me where I hailed him as anything?

I know, that's asking too much.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 03:31 PM
I believe Elections have Consequences :laugh: ... and losing twice, back-2-back sure as hell has.

so you do not respect the concept of separation of powers. I knew that aleardy.

Cigar
03-23-2016, 03:35 PM
so you do not respect the concept of separation of powers. I knew that aleardy.


I respect the concept of Wining and Losing ... how about you?

pjohns
03-23-2016, 03:43 PM
Sounds very *emperor-ish and authoritarian* ... you know, like you've been calling Obama the last 7 years.

What, exactly, is "emperor-ish" or "authoritarian" about our wanting to make the 2016 presidential election a referendum on ObamaCare?

pjohns
03-23-2016, 03:47 PM
Sure ... here's the example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

Well, at least you did respond.

But just why it is (supposedly) "emperor-ish" or "authoritarian" for the Senate Majority Leader--a Republican--to wish to deny President Obama--a Democrat--"a second term" (before it actually happened), I have no idea...

exotix
03-23-2016, 03:57 PM
What, exactly, is "emperor-ish" or "authoritarian" about our wanting to make the 2016 presidential election a referendum on ObamaCare?Oh ... well ... this about sizes it up ... LOL


http://i66.tinypic.com/8wmhsi.jpg

exotix
03-23-2016, 03:58 PM
Well, at least you did respond.

But just why it is (supposedly) "emperor-ish" or "authoritarian" for the Senate Majority Leader--a Republican--to wish to deny President Obama--a Democrat--"a second term" (before it actually happened), I have no idea...You wouldn't get it any more than Tallyman would.

Cigar
03-23-2016, 03:59 PM
What, exactly, is "emperor-ish" or "authoritarian" about our wanting to make the 2016 presidential election a referendum on ObamaCare?


Pick a Vote, any of the 70+

leekohler2
03-23-2016, 04:15 PM
Are they offering to raise any unplanned kids their employees might have? If so, sure- let them go for it.

leekohler2
03-23-2016, 04:18 PM
Well, at least you did respond.

But just why it is (supposedly) "emperor-ish" or "authoritarian" for the Senate Majority Leader--a Republican--to wish to deny President Obama--a Democrat--"a second term" (before it actually happened), I have no idea...

First of all- it's not up to him. It's up to the people. And he refused to respect the will of the people. Are you starting to get it yet?

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 04:23 PM
How does one distinguish an establishment (R) from any other (R) ?


LOL
Simple, when they control the Congress they capitulate to the Democrat President. When they control the Executive and the Legislative branches they spend like drunken democrats. They lack fiscal responsibility. They are socialists just like the Democrats. They expand the scope and reach of government despite the Constitution.

Is that enough for starters?

exotix
03-23-2016, 04:25 PM
Simple, when they control the Congress they capitulate to the Democrat President. When they control the Executive and the Legislative branches they spend like drunken democrats. They lack fiscal responsibility. they are socialists just like the Democrats. They expand the scope and reach of government despite the Constitution.

Is that enough for starters?I suspect all the 2016 GOP prez candidates now defuncted from the race were establishment (R)'s ... LOL

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 04:26 PM
I believe Elections have Consequences :laugh: ... and losing twice, back-2-back sure as hell has.
In fact, they do. The two elections that put and then kept the Monster in the White House have done great damage to the nation. We are on the brink of electing a Marxist-socialist. We are broke. And we are losing the nation to Islamofascists.

But, the good news is that the same lawlessness that put us here can get us mostly back out.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 04:27 PM
I suspect all the 2016 GOP prez candidates now defuncted from the race were establishment (R)'s ... LOL
Yes. There is just one more to go. Kasich damaged Ohio. They don't realize it yet but they will be completely bankrupt in just a few more years. Kasich has doomed the state of Ohio.

The two that are (really) left are not Establishment Republicans.

exotix
03-23-2016, 04:29 PM
Yes. There is just one more to go. Kasich damaged Ohio. They don't realize it yet but they will be completely bankrupt in just a few more years. Kasich has doomed the state of Ohio.

The two that are (really) left are not Establishment Republicans.That'll be news to the donors bankrolling 'em ... proof that they are establishment (R)'s.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 06:04 PM
I respect the concept of Wining and Losing ... how about you?
As far as government is concerned, I respect constitutional principles.

Now, do you respect the concept of separation of powers?

Peter1469
03-23-2016, 06:06 PM
Correct. I left the GOP in 2006 because they were spending like drunken Dems. And people who think they weren't look up the composition of Congress before you respond. :wink:


Correct. Establishment Republicans caved in under liberal media pressure and turned their backs on the voters who put them in charge.

If the Republican Party is in trouble, it is because they continue to compromise the supposed conservative principles they claim to stand for.

Once people get to Washington DC, they seem to seek the acceptance of the main stream media. Republicans need to understand that they will never gain the acceptance of the media and millions of people out here in the real world think that's a positive virtue.

The media is just as disrespected and distrusted as any institution in America.

Peter1469
03-23-2016, 06:08 PM
Been that way since Reagan raised taxes 11 times because his conservative voodoo economics was destroying America.

This is what you get when public schools tossed economics off the curriculum. :wink:

Peter1469
03-23-2016, 06:09 PM
his economic policies resulted in the greatest sustained growth of our economy since the end of the Great Depression.

But then, economic growth is not the goal of left wing economic policy. Is it?

Right. The left wants "fairness" and that means destroying wealth and moving resources to the create a lowest common denominator.

Peter1469
03-23-2016, 06:10 PM
I respect the concept of Wining and Losing ... how about you?

Who won control over the Congress? :wink:

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 06:10 PM
Right. The left wants "fairness" and that means destroying wealth and moving resources to the create a lowest common denominator.

liberals define fairness differently that you.

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 06:12 PM
Who won control over the Congress? :wink:

The house members did not turn their backs on the people who entrusted them with the majority. Senate Republicans can't make the same claim.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2016, 06:15 PM
That'll be news to the donors bankrolling 'em ... proof that they are establishment (R)'s.
Who knows why donors back "'em"? Whatever that means. There is only one more Establishment Republican running, Kasich. The donors would be very unlikely to back a Cruz or a Trump.

Cruz is getting lots of his money from ordinary people. And Trump is self-funding.

exotix
03-23-2016, 06:23 PM
Who knows why donors back "'em"? Whatever that means. There is only one more Establishment Republican running, Kasich. The donors would be very unlikely to back a Cruz or a Trump.

Cruz is getting lots of his money from ordinary people. And Trump is self-funding.Well, how do you explain establishment (R)'s now backing Cruz ? ... LOL

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 06:27 PM
Well, how do you explain establishment (R)'s now backing Cruz ? ... LOL


Maybe you should try an experiment. Answer your own dumb questions in your uniquely ignorant way.

exotix
03-23-2016, 06:32 PM
Maybe you should try an experiment. Answer your own dumb questions in your uniquely ignorant way.I just thought you knew the difference between an establishment (R) and a non-establishment (R) that's all ... LOL

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 06:33 PM
I just thought you knew the difference between an establishment (R) and a non-establishment (R) that's all ... LOL

i explained it the first time you asked your stupid question.

exotix
03-23-2016, 06:36 PM
i explained it the first time you asked your stupid question.Harsh ... but let's be fair ... is (R-AL) Jeff Sessions an establishment (R) or non-establishment (R) .... http://s9.tinypic.com/mkzmlv_th.jpg


https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/gop-2016-trump-jpeg-06f19.jpg?w=640

Tahuyaman
03-23-2016, 10:22 PM
Harsh ... but let's be fair ... is (R-AL) Jeff Sessions an establishment (R) or non-establishment (R) .... http://s9.tinypic.com/mkzmlv_th.jpg


https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/gop-2016-trump-jpeg-06f19.jpg?w=640what do you think?

texan
03-23-2016, 11:06 PM
I believe the catholic church wins this case.

Crepitus
03-23-2016, 11:12 PM
I believe the catholic church wins this case.
Great. It's not bad enough we're gonna have a circus for a government for at least four years, now we're gonna let the homosexual child molesters make decisions.

exotix
03-24-2016, 07:30 AM
Who won control over the Congress? :wink:Notice your acumen ... how you exposed yourself for what you are.

Peter1469
03-24-2016, 07:57 AM
Notice your acumen ... how you exposed yourself for what you are.

What is that Exo? Someone who understands that the US has separation of powers and the Executive is not a king? That Congress has an equal share of power with the Executive?

exotix
03-24-2016, 08:03 AM
What is that Exo? Someone who understands that the US has separation of powers and the Executive is not a king? That Congress has an equal share of power with the Executive?You unknowingly exposed yourself as a despot by stating that Congress is a ruling-body that needs to be controlled by despots.

MisterVeritis
03-24-2016, 08:38 AM
Harsh ... but let's be fair ... is (R-AL) Jeff Sessions an establishment (R) or non-establishment (R) .... http://s9.tinypic.com/mkzmlv_th.jpg


https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/gop-2016-trump-jpeg-06f19.jpg?w=640
Interesting question. He has been in the Senate since 1996. But it is one's beliefs and not duration that make one a hated member of the capitulate to go along establishment republicans. Sessions has been on the right side of nearly every issue. Shelby is the establishment guy.

Peter1469
03-24-2016, 08:39 AM
You unknowingly exposed yourself as a despot by stating that Congress is a ruling-body that needs to be controlled by despots.

Really? OK Exo. :shocked:

exotix
03-24-2016, 08:42 AM
Interesting question. He has been in the Senate since 1996. But it is one's beliefs and not duration that make one a hated member of the capitulate to go along establishment republicans. Sessions has been on the right side of nearly every issue. Shelby is the establishment guy.In other words ... I've proved that this notion that the existence of an establishment (R) vs. a non-establishment (R) is nothing more than another GOP lie.

Cigar
03-24-2016, 08:45 AM
Interesting question. He has been in the Senate since 1996. But it is one's beliefs and not duration that make one a hated member of the capitulate to go along establishment republicans. Sessions has been on the right side of nearly every issue. Shelby is the establishment guy.


Let's check back with Sessions on November 9th ... :laugh:

MisterVeritis
03-24-2016, 08:47 AM
In other words ... I've proved that this notion that the existence of an establishment (R) vs. a non-establishment (R) is nothing more than another GOP lie.
If believing so helps you get through the day, go for it.

For those who do not keep score every day I recommend Conservative Review. The closer one's score is to 100% the less likely one is to being a capitulator. It is a continuum. Weight it toward the present as people are co-opted.

Here is Sessions: https://www.conservativereview.com/members/jeff-sessions/

Peter1469
03-24-2016, 09:02 AM
In other words ... I've proved that this notion that the existence of an establishment (R) vs. a non-establishment (R) is nothing more than another GOP lie.

The Establishment controls both republicans and democrats. The two parties are two sides of the same coin.

exotix
03-24-2016, 09:04 AM
The Establishment controls both republicans and democrats. The two parties are two sides of the same coin.No sweat ... simply point out where Dems are a fractured party because of it. (Sanders doesn't even subscribe that his *grassroots movement* fractures the the Dems )

Peter1469
03-24-2016, 09:08 AM
No sweat ... simply point out where Dems are a fractured party because of it. (Sanders doesn't even subscribe that his *grassroots movement* fractures the the Dems )

A much larger proportion of democrats agree with the Establishment.

exotix
03-24-2016, 09:11 AM
A much larger proportion of democrats agree with the Establishment.It just occurred to me ... you throw out one-liners and declare yourself it ... LOL

del
03-24-2016, 09:17 AM
lol

Tahuyaman
03-24-2016, 10:03 AM
The Democrats are just as close if not closer to a collapse than the Republicans. They have lost the US congress, governorships and state houses in record numbers all over the country.

Peter1469
03-24-2016, 10:09 AM
It just occurred to me ... you throw out one-liners and declare yourself it ... LOL

oh?

pjohns
03-24-2016, 12:18 PM
You wouldn't get it any more than Tallyman would.

Condescension is usually the weapon of the weak...

pjohns
03-24-2016, 12:24 PM
First of all- it's not up to him. It's up to the people. And he refused to respect the will of the people. Are you starting to get it yet?

Mitch McConnell was elected by "the people" of Kentucky.

If he has not "respect[ed] the will of the people," as you claim, they can throw him out whenever his current term expires.

exotix
03-24-2016, 04:40 PM
Mitch McConnell was elected by "the people" of Kentucky.

If he has not "respect[ed] the will of the people," as you claim, they can throw him out whenever his current term expires.Kind of like McConnell knowing there is nothing in the constitution that *remedies* the Senate not doing its constitutional duty to pick a SCOTUS justice.

pjohns
03-25-2016, 10:57 AM
Kind of like McConnell knowing there is nothing in the constitution that *remedies* the Senate not doing its constitutional duty to pick a SCOTUS justice.

The US Constitution does empower the Congress to "advise and consent" in this regard.

But it clearly does not require the Senate to take up any particular nomination.

In any case, you would do much better to start another thread in this regard--rather than to attempt to derail this one...

exotix
03-25-2016, 11:08 AM
The US Constitution does empower the Congress to "advise and consent" in this regard.

But it clearly does not require the Senate to take up any particular nomination.

In any case, you would do much better to start another thread in this regard--rather than to attempt to derail this one...Correct ... the founding fathers must've figured a conservative majority Congress wouldn't even consider treasonous actions.

Tahuyaman
03-25-2016, 11:29 AM
Correct ... the founding fathers must've figured a conservative majority Congress wouldn't even consider treasonous actions.

things are funny that way, huh?

Ransom
03-25-2016, 11:36 AM
The US Constitution does empower the Congress to "advise and consent" in this regard.

But it clearly does not require the Senate to take up any particular nomination.

In any case, you would do much better to start another thread in this regard--rather than to attempt to derail this one...

Exo don't like being told no. Neither do most Democrats.

The answer is still no.......and it's going to be a big fat fck no for the rest of Obama's term.

The community organizer isn't going to replace Justice Scalia. End of story.

Tahuyaman
03-25-2016, 11:50 AM
As unbelievable as it is, it actually looks like this time the Republicans are not going to cave in.

Cigar
03-25-2016, 11:54 AM
The US Constitution does empower the Congress to "advise and consent" in this regard.

But it clearly does not require the Senate to take up any particular nomination.

In any case, you would do much better to start another thread in this regard--rather than to attempt to derail this one...


So is it safe to say, you would approve of The Democrats doing the exact same thing to a Republican President ... correct?

MisterVeritis
03-25-2016, 11:59 AM
Correct ... the founding fathers must've figured a conservative majority Congress wouldn't even consider treasonous actions.
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attainder) of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

Tahuyaman
03-25-2016, 01:23 PM
So is it safe to say, you would approve of The Democrats doing the exact same thing to a Republican President ... correct?


Where do you think the Republicans got the idea? It's not like they came up with an original idea here.

pjohns
03-25-2016, 02:55 PM
Where do you think the Republicans got the idea? It's not like they came up with an original idea here.

The name, "Robert Bork," leaps to mind, in this regard...