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Mark III
03-31-2016, 03:23 PM
http://qz.com/651726/is-america-finally-getting-tired-of-donald-trump/

Donald Trump’s shtick may be getting old.

In Wisconsin, host of the next big Republican primary, a new poll (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/wisconsin-poll-ted-cruz-bernie-sanders-lead/index.html) shows Texas senator Ted Cruz ahead by 10 percentage points in what should be prime Trump country: a state with a high percentage of non-college educated white, Republican voters.


But even Trump’s base may be flagging: A new national survey (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-would-be-least-popular-major-party-nominee-in-modern-times/2016/03/30/b4b077e0-f5e7-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html?postshare=3381459424934720&tid=ss_tw) shows that every demographic group has a negative view of the real estate developer—even white men, who were previously his stalwarts.


It could be a stamina problem. When trump hosted the “Apprentice” reality show, Trump made a big splash—and then ratings quickly sunk. At one point, Trump threatened to quit (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-idUSN1824687220070519) before NBC could fire him, though the network and the host patched things up.


Political analysts have long predicted that Trump’s offensive rhetoric would eventually make him politically radioactive, but that hasn’t happened. His flip-flop immunity (http://qz.com/631506/flip-flop-impunity-why-donald-trump-scares-democrats-in-the-general-election/) (on full display yesterday as he suggested punishing women who obtain abortions (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-women-abortions-punished-banned/story?id=38036626) before retracting the idea) insulates him from traditional message problems.


And the deep roots of his appeal in the Republican party (http://qz.com/624212/donald-trump-doesnt-prove-the-republican-party-is-broken-its-actually-booming/) have made it easy for establishment figures like former Bush consigliere Karl Rove to run ads on his behalf (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-29/new-crossroads-ad-to-gop-focus-on-clinton-not-trump) and GOP eminence grise Paul Manafort to join his campaign (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjDk_LGjevLAhXIOCYKHVh5CWYQqQIIIDAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fballot-box%2Fpresidential-races%2F274511-trump-hires-strategist-paul-manafort&usg=AFQjCNFWAeIv0D7GHUq4qtQSbmTmHYAsLQ&sig2=kfazaqt7vaTzxIugU-WNVA).


But maybe the real story of Trump failure is just boredom. He’s still the odds-on favorite to emerge with the Republican nomination this summer, but when it comes to durable appeal, history suggests there are diminishing returns. As his negatives rise and his offensiveness becomes trite, maybe voters will just change the channel.

Cigar
03-31-2016, 03:28 PM
He'll always have his Followers firmly and snugly stuck between his Cheeks :laugh:

Mark III
03-31-2016, 03:29 PM
Trump may not see that 1237 promised land after all. Politico also has a current story indicating Trump's popularity is sinking slowly but steadily. How ugly will it get?

Mark III
03-31-2016, 03:36 PM
He'll always have his Followers firmly and snugly stuck between his Cheeks :laugh:

I think Trump is making a big mistake assuming he can get the nomination without 1237.

The Republican Party doesn't want to be embarrassed any more, and that is their way out.

In all the places where people vote for their leaders, and use a runoff system (multiple candidates), if the lead candidate gets 49.99% of the vote he/she must go into a runoff. They don't get to avoid the runoff by saying "I got 49.9% and the next closest only got 25 %, so proclaim me the winner or there will be a riot". IT DOESN"T WORK THAT WAY . If Trump doesn't get 50+1, he is in a runoff at the convention, period. He cannot get out of this.

domer76
03-31-2016, 03:57 PM
For anyone paying attention from the getgo, they saw he was one inch deep on his shtick all along. A con man. It was inevitable that it would catch up to him at some point. It's just that some of us saw through it from the beginning

Mark III
03-31-2016, 04:13 PM
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/trump-would-be-least-popular-major-party-nominee-in-modern-times-1.401986
Trump would be least-popular major-party nominee in modern times




If Donald Trump secures the Republican presidential nomination, he would start the general election campaign as the least-popular candidate to represent either party in modern times.

Three-quarters of women view him unfavorably. So do nearly two-thirds of independents, 80 percent of young adults, 85 percent of Hispanics and nearly half of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents.


Those findings, tallied from Washington Post-ABC News polling, fuel Trump's overall 67 percent unfavorable rating — making Trump more disliked than any major-party nominee in the 32 years the survey has been tracking candidates.


Head-to-head matchups show Hillary Clinton, as well as her Democratic rival Bernie Sanders, leading Trump, often by double digits. Even his two remaining fellow GOP contenders this week backed away from earlier promises to support the eventual nominee.


And with each passing day, Trump makes moves that add further uncertainty to his ability to pivot to the general election. His defiant defense this week of his campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, who was charged with battery for yanking a female reporter, as well as his remarks Wednesday that women who get abortions should be punished, might play well with his followers — but could further alienate the broader electorate.


"Normally, when you're in a hole, the best advice is to stop digging. That doesn't appear to be his inclination," GOP strategist David Carney said. "It's like taking a wagon full of nitroglycerine across the prairie. It's great if you get to the mountains and blow them up for gold. But it's pretty unpredictable."


Peter Hart, a veteran Democratic pollster who has studied public impressions of Trump, said voters' views of him are "exceptionally rancid."

Ethereal
03-31-2016, 04:52 PM
For anyone paying attention from the getgo, they saw he was one inch deep on his shtick all along. A con man.

So he's exactly like Hillary Clinton.


It was inevitable that it would catch up to him at some point. It's just that some of us saw through it from the beginning

If Republicans and conservatives eventually abandon Trump for the reasons you specified, then it will prove they are smarter than Democrats and progressives still supporting Clinton. Granted, that's not much of an accomplishment, but it's something at least.

domer76
03-31-2016, 04:57 PM
So he's exactly like Hillary Clinton.



If Republicans and conservatives eventually abandon Trump for the reasons you specified, then it will prove they are smarter than Democrats and progressives still supporting Clinton. Granted, that's not much of an accomplishment, but it's something at least.

Clinton shits something with more policy knowledge than Trump.

Peter1469
03-31-2016, 05:14 PM
How to get around those pesky government IT practices? :wink:

Ethereal
03-31-2016, 05:23 PM
Clinton $#@!s something with more policy knowledge than Trump.

Clinton is a crook, and her supporters are idiots.

Common Sense
03-31-2016, 05:26 PM
Clinton is a crook, and her supporters are idiots.

You wouldn't actually vote for Trump, would you?

Ethereal
03-31-2016, 05:36 PM
You wouldn't actually vote for Trump, would you?

No way. I just like watching him muck up the system.

Mark III
03-31-2016, 05:54 PM
You wouldn't actually vote for Trump, would you?

Anarchists, libertarians, contrarians , habitual malcontents, all on the outside looking in, as usual.

I think many of these folk tolerate Trump only because of the hope they have for seeing chaos envelop the United States of America.

That is not the way forward.

Ethereal
03-31-2016, 05:57 PM
Anarchists, libertarians, contrarians , habitual malcontents, all on the outside looking in, as usual.

We typically prefer to be on the outside of the political system. It's a corrupt, evil system propped up by legions of useful idiots and goons.


I think many of these folk tolerate Trump only because of the hope they have for seeing chaos envelop the United States of America.

That is not the way forward.

Tolerate him? How's that?

Common Sense
03-31-2016, 06:10 PM
It's hard for me to understand those who choose not to take part in the political process yet complain about the results.

Mac-7
03-31-2016, 08:32 PM
http://qz.com/651726/is-america-finally-getting-tired-of-donald-trump/

Donald Trump’s shtick may be getting old.

In Wisconsin, host of the next big Republican primary, a new poll (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/wisconsin-poll-ted-cruz-bernie-sanders-lead/index.html) shows Texas senator Ted Cruz ahead by 10 percentage points in what should be prime Trump country: a state with a high percentage of non-college educated white, Republican voters.


But even Trump’s base may be flagging: A new national survey (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-would-be-least-popular-major-party-nominee-in-modern-times/2016/03/30/b4b077e0-f5e7-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html?postshare=3381459424934720&tid=ss_tw) shows that every demographic group has a negative view of the real estate developer—even white men, who were previously his stalwarts.


It could be a stamina problem. When trump hosted the “Apprentice” reality show, Trump made a big splash—and then ratings quickly sunk. At one point, Trump threatened to quit (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-idUSN1824687220070519) before NBC could fire him, though the network and the host patched things up.


Political analysts have long predicted that Trump’s offensive rhetoric would eventually make him politically radioactive, but that hasn’t happened. His flip-flop immunity (http://qz.com/631506/flip-flop-impunity-why-donald-trump-scares-democrats-in-the-general-election/) (on full display yesterday as he suggested punishing women who obtain abortions (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-women-abortions-punished-banned/story?id=38036626) before retracting the idea) insulates him from traditional message problems.


And the deep roots of his appeal in the Republican party (http://qz.com/624212/donald-trump-doesnt-prove-the-republican-party-is-broken-its-actually-booming/) have made it easy for establishment figures like former Bush consigliere Karl Rove to run ads on his behalf (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-29/new-crossroads-ad-to-gop-focus-on-clinton-not-trump) and GOP eminence grise Paul Manafort to join his campaign (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjDk_LGjevLAhXIOCYKHVh5CWYQqQIIIDAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fballot-box%2Fpresidential-races%2F274511-trump-hires-strategist-paul-manafort&usg=AFQjCNFWAeIv0D7GHUq4qtQSbmTmHYAsLQ&sig2=kfazaqt7vaTzxIugU-WNVA).


But maybe the real story of Trump failure is just boredom. He’s still the odds-on favorite to emerge with the Republican nomination this summer, but when it comes to durable appeal, history suggests there are diminishing returns. As his negatives rise and his offensiveness becomes trite, maybe voters will just change the channel.

I have always supported ted cruz as the best person to be the next president

trump was the early leader but he has stepped on his message because he is spontanous and unscripted

And if that gives cruz the chance he and the nation deserve then yea.

but if trump recovers and pulls it put in spite of his mistakes he has my full support in november

Chris
03-31-2016, 08:35 PM
Clinton shits something with more policy knowledge than Trump.

I can see her using that as a campaign slogan.

Chris
03-31-2016, 08:36 PM
It's hard for me to understand those who choose not to take part in the political process yet complain about the results.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

Mac-7
03-31-2016, 08:39 PM
You wouldn't actually vote for Trump, would you?

Would you?

oh thats right.

you cant vote in our elections.

how lucky for us

domer76
03-31-2016, 09:06 PM
I can see her using that as a campaign slogan.

She won't need to. People are finally coming to that realization.

Chris
03-31-2016, 09:24 PM
She won't need to. People are finally coming to that realization.

So now you're saying Hillary's shit doesn't stink?

domer76
03-31-2016, 09:31 PM
So now you're saying Hillary's shit doesn't stink?

lol. Can't you figure out even the most straight forward of posts?

The Xl
03-31-2016, 09:35 PM
Clinton makes trump look credible comparatively. She's a sham and a joke.

domer76
03-31-2016, 09:54 PM
Clinton makes trump look credible comparatively. She's a sham and a joke.

Are you drunk? Trump has the grasp of policy about as deep as a 6th grader. He tosses out garbage and it sticks with those of the same mentality. As far as policy matters, both foreign and domestic, Trump is a Bush League compared to Clinton. He's even Bush League compared to Bush.

Ethereal
03-31-2016, 09:57 PM
Are you drunk? Trump has the grasp of policy about as deep as a 6th grader. He tosses out garbage and it sticks with those of the same mentality. As far as policy matters, both foreign and domestic, Trump is a Bush League compared to Clinton. He's even Bush League compared to Bush.

Trump would have to destroy about five countries before he could achieve the same level of policy "expertise" as Clinton.

domer76
03-31-2016, 10:03 PM
Trump would have to destroy about five countries before he could achieve the same level of policy "expertise" as Clinton.

Trump will never possess the level of policy knowledge that Clinton does.

Peter1469
04-01-2016, 07:07 AM
Trump will never possess the level of policy knowledge that Clinton does.

It doesn't do her any good. She created chaos in Libya and Syria.

Mac-7
04-01-2016, 07:10 AM
It doesn't do her any good. She created chaos in Libya and Syria.

Knowledge of bare facts that make no sense to her.

domer76
04-01-2016, 07:22 AM
It doesn't do her any good. She created chaos in Libya and Syria.

Trump can't even address the simplest of topics without stumbling. From abortion to nuclear proliferation to NATO. It's obvious he hasn't thought through with any depth whatsoever any given topic.

Right. There was no chaos in the ME before Clinton.

Mac-7
04-01-2016, 07:26 AM
Trump can't even address the simplest of topics without stumbling. From abortion to nuclear proliferation to NATO. It's obvious he hasn't thought through with any depth whatsoever any given topic.

Right. There was no chaos in the ME before Clinton.

Trump is admittedly a work in progress.

but at least he is capable of learning

hillary is a born fool who peaked 40 years ago

Chris
04-01-2016, 08:29 AM
lol. Can't you figure out even the most straight forward of posts?

Oh, you meant her schtick doesn't stink. Communicate more clearly next time.

PolWatch
04-01-2016, 08:56 AM
We have listened to people complaining that Obama was only elected because he was black, that he had no experience to qualify for the job of president. Now, we are supposed to regard the lack of experience as a plus and hope the candidate will learn....before he destroys the nation?

Mac-7
04-01-2016, 10:21 AM
Now, we are supposed to regard the lack of experience as a plus and hope the candidate will learn....before he destroys the nation?

Thats just a typical lib over-simplification

what you would hear from trumpsters - if you were listening - is that trump is a smart results driven businessman who can grow onto the job instead of a cynical professional politician who is only skilled at covering up or explaining away failure

PolWatch
04-01-2016, 10:27 AM
grow into the job? Partisan speak for: my team don't need no stinking experience.

Hint: running a company is different from a country. Bosses own lots of yes-men who would never object to the boss's decisions. Presidents have an entire party of no-men. How do you think Trump would react if he received the same treatment as Obama? You really need to think about this because the establishment repubs would probably treat Trump and Cruz the same way they have treated Obama. He would have 2 parties of no cooperation representatives.

Chris
04-01-2016, 10:30 AM
Thats just a typical lib over-simplification

what you would hear from trumpsters - if you were listening - is that trump is a smart results driven businessman who can grow onto the job instead of a cynical professional politician who is only skilled at covering up or explaining away failure

Typical oversimplification.

I'll go with Glenn Beck, Trump is not prepared to be president, he makes it up as he goes along, thus three different answers on abortion.

Chris
04-01-2016, 10:35 AM
How many times have we heard running the government is like running a business. For crying out load, you run a business for profit. You run a government for power, you don't care about profits, you just tax the hell out of the people, you spend other people's money...so you or your party gets re-elected.

Chris
04-01-2016, 11:29 AM
Are you drunk? Trump has the grasp of policy about as deep as a 6th grader. He tosses out garbage and it sticks with those of the same mentality. As far as policy matters, both foreign and domestic, Trump is a Bush League compared to Clinton. He's even Bush League compared to Bush.

Accusing other members of drinking or drugging is bad faith posting.

Mac-7
04-01-2016, 12:33 PM
Typical oversimplification.

I'll go with Glenn Beck, Trump is not prepared to be president, he makes it up as he goes along, thus three different answers on abortion.

you go with Beck and I'll go with Mac-7

the next president appears 99% certain to be either trump or Cruz or hillary

cruz does not have the celebrity attraction as the Donald, but he is better prepared on the issues than trump is

and even though Hillary has been hanging around government for 50 years she is an incompetent fool

so the best choice is Cruz but trump is better than hillary

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 12:38 PM
Trump does need to pivot. He may have already started. He is smart enough to see it.

Let's see what he does in the next few days and weeks.

AZ Jim
04-01-2016, 01:09 PM
Clinton is a crook, and her supporters are idiots.Troll tries bait.

domer76
04-01-2016, 01:54 PM
Trump is admittedly a work in progress.

but at least he is capable of learning

hillary is a born fool who peaked 40 years ago

A work in progress? Now that there is funny and I don't care who you are!

domer76
04-01-2016, 01:55 PM
Oh, you meant her schtick doesn't stink. Communicate more clearly next time.

Stick with cut and paste to make your points. Your reading comprehension is abysmal

Mac-7
04-01-2016, 02:34 PM
A work in progress? Now that there is funny and I don't care who you are!

Trump is unscripted

but it hillary is completely scripted and phony as a 3 dollar bill

domer76
04-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Trump is unscripted

but it hillary is completely scripted and phony as a 3 dollar bill

Trump needs to be scripted by someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about. He doesn't have a clue.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 04:08 PM
Trump needs to be scripted by someone who knows what the $#@! they're talking about. He doesn't have a clue.
It is time for him to become disciplined. Yes, he has been unscripted. He has also been inspiring. The time has come for him to transition from unscripted to highly disciplined. I believe he will do precisely that.

domer76
04-01-2016, 04:17 PM
It is time for him to become disciplined. Yes, he has been unscripted. He has also been inspiring. The time has come for him to transition from unscripted to highly disciplined. I believe he will do precisely that.

Inspiring? He's been a caricature of himself since day one.

Peter1469
04-01-2016, 05:02 PM
Inspiring? He's been a caricature of himself since day one.

By not being an Establishment boot-lick. That is the only reason he has the numbers he has. Americans are waking up.

domer76
04-01-2016, 05:19 PM
By not being an Establishment boot-lick. That is the only reason he has the numbers he has. Americans are waking up.

Funny guy.

The only Americans supporting Trump are the ones as clueless as he is. He possesses the domestic and foreign policy depth of a 6th grader.

Peter1469
04-01-2016, 05:51 PM
Funny guy.

The only Americans supporting Trump are the ones as clueless as he is. He possesses the domestic and foreign policy depth of a 6th grader.

I don't support Trump. However I am not so foolish as to chalk his supporters off as clueless. He is the wrong person in the right place.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 05:54 PM
Inspiring? He's been a caricature of himself since day one.
I suppose to someone like you it must seem that way. People like you are the problem. People like Trump are the beginning of a cure. The world needs an enema. People like you must be flushed.

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 05:55 PM
I don't support Trump. However I am not so foolish as to chalk his supporters off as clueless. He is the wrong person in the right place.

I don't know...while I agree with the principle of an outsider and the legitimate frustrations of the people, anyone who buys Trumps bullshit can't be too bright.

Chris
04-01-2016, 06:05 PM
I don't know...while I agree with the principle of an outsider and the legitimate frustrations of the people, anyone who buys Trumps bullshit can't be too bright.

Ditto Clinton. I just can't fathom why anyone would support her bullshit so, yea, they must be idiots. And I put a lot of thought into that, oh, yea.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:12 PM
I don't know...while I agree with the principle of an outsider and the legitimate frustrations of the people, anyone who buys Trumps bull$#@! can't be too bright.
I am pretty darned bright. I buy. I want him to do a very few things. I believe he will do them. And you are a foreigner.

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 06:14 PM
I am pretty darned bright. I buy. I want him to do a very few things. I believe he will do them. And you are a foreigner.

You may want to reassess.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:15 PM
You may want to reassess.
Are you claiming that you are not a foreigner?

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 06:20 PM
Are you claiming that you are not a foreigner?

To you I am a foreigner and to me you are. What of it? We aren't writing policy here. It's an internet forum.

You may want to reassess your assessment of yourself.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:21 PM
To you I am a foreigner and to me you are. What of it? We aren't writing policy here. It's an internet forum.

You may want to reassess your assessment of yourself.
It was not my assessment. It was by test. I did very well.

And you. Well, your just some foreigner on the internet.

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 06:23 PM
It was not my assessment. It was by test. I did very well.

And you. Well, your just some foreigner on the internet.

...and you're not just some foreigner on the internet?

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:24 PM
...and you're not just some foreigner on the internet?
:-) No. I am very familiar with myself.

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 06:26 PM
:-) No. I am very familiar with myself.

Solitude will do that.

domer76
04-01-2016, 06:33 PM
I suppose to someone like you it must seem that way. People like you are the problem. People like Trump are the beginning of a cure. The world needs an enema. People like you must be flushed.

How many bridges have you purchased in your life? Trump is a con man and you are one of his hapless victims.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:35 PM
Solitude will do that.
I love solitude. And yes, it can increase self-awareness. I do not expect you to ever be self-aware.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:38 PM
How many bridges have you purchased in your life? Trump is a con man and you are one of his hapless victims.
I suppose we shall see.

If he succeeds in building a southern wall, deporting obama's illegal childrens army and the other illegal aliens he will have accomplished almost everything I expect. If he deports all of Obama's Muslim Army of the US and stops any new Muslims from coming here that will finish what I expect.

And you will be devastated that the US will be emptied of enemies of America. Now we need to find a way to rid this nation of its liberals, progressives, national socialists, international socialists, fascists, Marxists and left-libertarians.

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 06:44 PM
Sometimes I feel like some posters are pretending to be bad stereotypes.


Unfortunately it's probably not true.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 06:45 PM
Sometimes I feel like some posters are pretending to be bad stereotypes.


Unfortunately it's probably not true.
In this scenario you would be the out of control liberal. :-)

Common Sense
04-01-2016, 06:46 PM
In this scenario you would be the out of control liberal. :-)

Have I said something "out of control"?

You've implied that you would relish the deaths of those whose politics you disagree with. You don't think that sounds crazy?

domer76
04-01-2016, 06:49 PM
I suppose we shall see.

If he succeeds in building a southern wall, deporting obama's illegal childrens army and the other illegal aliens he will have accomplished almost everything I expect. If he deports all of Obama's Muslim Army of the US and stops any new Muslims from coming here that will finish what I expect.

And you will be devastated that the US will be emptied of enemies of America. Now we need to find a way to rid this nation of its liberals, progressives, national socialists, international socialists, fascists, Marxists and left-libertarians.

It's dubious that he will even be nominated. His chances at everything beyond that are nil.

Peter1469
04-01-2016, 07:08 PM
I don't know...while I agree with the principle of an outsider and the legitimate frustrations of the people, anyone who buys Trumps bullshit can't be too bright.

I think that you discount how disgusted a very large number of Americans are with the Establishment.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 07:15 PM
Have I said something "out of control"?
You mentioned stereotypes. You match the stereotype of the out of control liberal, eager to build your utopia on the bodies of liberalism's victims.


You've implied that you would relish the deaths of those whose politics you disagree with. You don't think that sounds crazy?
It is no more crazy than recognizing that those who touch hot stoves will get burned. You guys cause the problems. You will suffer from the fate you wish upon others.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 07:16 PM
It's dubious that he will even be nominated. His chances at everything beyond that are nil.
It is Trumps problem to win the nomination. And it is Trump's task to win the election. I believe he is up to both tasks.

domer76
04-01-2016, 07:40 PM
It is Trumps problem to win the nomination. And it is Trump's task to win the election. I believe he is up to both tasks.

When did you suffer that traumatic brain injury?

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 07:41 PM
It is Trumps problem to win the nomination. And it is Trump's task to win the election. I believe he is up to both tasks.






When did you suffer that traumatic brain injury?
I believe you have stolen (borrowed) my line. You are welcome to use it.

Time will determine if I am right.

For those of us who are not geniuses like you must be, if those tasks are not Trump's tasks to whom do they belong?

domer76
04-01-2016, 07:53 PM
It is Trumps problem to win the nomination. And it is Trump's task to win the election. I believe he is up to both tasks.






I believe you have stolen (borrowed) my line. You are welcome to use it.

Time will determine if I am right.

For those of us who are not geniuses like you must be, if those tasks are not Trump's tasks to whom do they belong?

You're the one living in the fantasy world, pal. Not me. I recognized Trump for what he is long ago. You missed it. I recognize the near-impossibility of him doing anything like a southern wall, etc. Pitifully, for you, you fail to comprehend that. You've got some serious wires crossed.

MisterVeritis
04-01-2016, 09:00 PM
You're the one living in the fantasy world, pal. Not me. I recognized Trump for what he is long ago. You missed it. I recognize the near-impossibility of him doing anything like a southern wall, etc. Pitifully, for you, you fail to comprehend that. You've got some serious wires crossed.
Neither of us can change your simple failures. I believe he will do what he says and build the wall already approved by the Congress. You don't think he will.

Time will tell.

Of course I do hope he will have the American Justice Department prosecute Hillary if the corrupt Obama administration fails to do so. For the sake of the nation she needs to die in prison.

donttread
04-02-2016, 08:13 AM
http://qz.com/651726/is-america-finally-getting-tired-of-donald-trump/

Donald Trump’s shtick may be getting old.

In Wisconsin, host of the next big Republican primary, a new poll (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/wisconsin-poll-ted-cruz-bernie-sanders-lead/index.html) shows Texas senator Ted Cruz ahead by 10 percentage points in what should be prime Trump country: a state with a high percentage of non-college educated white, Republican voters.


But even Trump’s base may be flagging: A new national survey (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-would-be-least-popular-major-party-nominee-in-modern-times/2016/03/30/b4b077e0-f5e7-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html?postshare=3381459424934720&tid=ss_tw) shows that every demographic group has a negative view of the real estate developer—even white men, who were previously his stalwarts.


It could be a stamina problem. When trump hosted the “Apprentice” reality show, Trump made a big splash—and then ratings quickly sunk. At one point, Trump threatened to quit (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-idUSN1824687220070519) before NBC could fire him, though the network and the host patched things up.


Political analysts have long predicted that Trump’s offensive rhetoric would eventually make him politically radioactive, but that hasn’t happened. His flip-flop immunity (http://qz.com/631506/flip-flop-impunity-why-donald-trump-scares-democrats-in-the-general-election/) (on full display yesterday as he suggested punishing women who obtain abortions (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-women-abortions-punished-banned/story?id=38036626) before retracting the idea) insulates him from traditional message problems.


And the deep roots of his appeal in the Republican party (http://qz.com/624212/donald-trump-doesnt-prove-the-republican-party-is-broken-its-actually-booming/) have made it easy for establishment figures like former Bush consigliere Karl Rove to run ads on his behalf (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-29/new-crossroads-ad-to-gop-focus-on-clinton-not-trump) and GOP eminence grise Paul Manafort to join his campaign (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjDk_LGjevLAhXIOCYKHVh5CWYQqQIIIDAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fballot-box%2Fpresidential-races%2F274511-trump-hires-strategist-paul-manafort&usg=AFQjCNFWAeIv0D7GHUq4qtQSbmTmHYAsLQ&sig2=kfazaqt7vaTzxIugU-WNVA).


But maybe the real story of Trump failure is just boredom. He’s still the odds-on favorite to emerge with the Republican nomination this summer, but when it comes to durable appeal, history suggests there are diminishing returns. As his negatives rise and his offensiveness becomes trite, maybe voters will just change the channel.

Even by presidential candidate standards he has no plan which will ultimately kill his campaign. However, if you believe as I do that he has already fulfilled his purpose to the donkephant by taking some of the attention off Sanders and completely pushing Rand Paul and Jill Stein out of the public eye, then he was never intended to truly run for president.

The Sage of Main Street
04-06-2016, 02:31 PM
http://qz.com/651726/is-america-finally-getting-tired-of-donald-trump/

Donald Trump’s shtick may be getting old.

In Wisconsin, host of the next big Republican primary, a new poll (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/wisconsin-poll-ted-cruz-bernie-sanders-lead/index.html) shows Texas senator Ted Cruz ahead by 10 percentage points in what should be prime Trump country: a state with a high percentage of non-college educated white, Republican voters.


But even Trump’s base may be flagging: A new national survey (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-would-be-least-popular-major-party-nominee-in-modern-times/2016/03/30/b4b077e0-f5e7-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html?postshare=3381459424934720&tid=ss_tw) shows that every demographic group has a negative view of the real estate developer—even white men, who were previously his stalwarts.


It could be a stamina problem. When trump hosted the “Apprentice” reality show, Trump made a big splash—and then ratings quickly sunk. At one point, Trump threatened to quit (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-idUSN1824687220070519) before NBC could fire him, though the network and the host patched things up.


Political analysts have long predicted that Trump’s offensive rhetoric would eventually make him politically radioactive, but that hasn’t happened. His flip-flop immunity (http://qz.com/631506/flip-flop-impunity-why-donald-trump-scares-democrats-in-the-general-election/) (on full display yesterday as he suggested punishing women who obtain abortions (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-women-abortions-punished-banned/story?id=38036626) before retracting the idea) insulates him from traditional message problems.


And the deep roots of his appeal in the Republican party (http://qz.com/624212/donald-trump-doesnt-prove-the-republican-party-is-broken-its-actually-booming/) have made it easy for establishment figures like former Bush consigliere Karl Rove to run ads on his behalf (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-29/new-crossroads-ad-to-gop-focus-on-clinton-not-trump) and GOP eminence grise Paul Manafort to join his campaign (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjDk_LGjevLAhXIOCYKHVh5CWYQqQIIIDAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fballot-box%2Fpresidential-races%2F274511-trump-hires-strategist-paul-manafort&usg=AFQjCNFWAeIv0D7GHUq4qtQSbmTmHYAsLQ&sig2=kfazaqt7vaTzxIugU-WNVA).


But maybe the real story of Trump failure is just boredom. He’s still the odds-on favorite to emerge with the Republican nomination this summer, but when it comes to durable appeal, history suggests there are diminishing returns. As his negatives rise and his offensiveness becomes trite, maybe voters will just change the channel. The relentless and well-financed attack on him by the GOP (Greedheads Out on Parole) Establishment and its pet media pit bulls has accounted for all the negatives, including decades of brainwashing against his present proposals for saving the nation.

The Sage of Main Street
04-06-2016, 02:43 PM
grow into the job? Partisan speak for: my team don't need no stinking experience.

Hint: running a company is different from a country. Bosses own lots of yes-men who would never object to the boss's decisions. Presidents have an entire party of no-men. How do you think Trump would react if he received the same treatment as Obama? You really need to think about this because the establishment repubs would probably treat Trump and Cruz the same way they have treated Obama. He would have 2 parties of no cooperation representatives. The same opportunistic warning was made about Eisenhower. Being career military, he was used to absolute obedience to his orders and would fail because he couldn't order Congress around like inferiors in rank.