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Peter1469
04-09-2016, 06:08 AM
Swedish Economist Schools Sanders On The Ravages Of Socialism (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/swedish-economist-schools-sanders-on-the-ravages-of-socialism/)

One would think that this would be self evident: that socialism, as practiced, causes much more harm than good. Bernie wants more of it. This Swedish economists explains why Bernie is wrong.


Socialist Bernie Sanders believes nations “like Denmark, like Sweden, and Norway” employ the welfare-state economic model that the U.S. should replicate. An economist from one of these countries shows how wrong he is.Sanders’ teenage infatuation with the European welfare state is well-documented. He’s convinced that America could learn from what those nations listed above “have accomplished for their working people.” He has said that it “makes a lot of sense” to him that “it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it’s pretty hard to be very, very poor” in Denmark. In his single-issue mind, capitalism and free markets are evil forces that government must restrain.
These positions are why he appeals to his supporters, and there are enough of them within the Democratic Party to have kept him in the presidential primary race this long — much longer than anyone expected. But, Sanders and his supporters who think they know so much in reality know nothing at all.
At one time, Sweden, a small nation, had the fourth-largest economy in the world. That was in 1970. Twenty-five years later, the economy had tumbled to 14th and the private sector stopped creating jobs, according to Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development data. This wasn’t caused by Sanders’ demonic duo of capitalism and free markets. It was caused by the very policies he idolizes.
“Sweden got rich first with free trade and an open economy, before we had the big government,” Swedish economist Johan Norberg explains in a new YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhE_68GMJIk).
“In the 1950s, Sweden was already one of the world’s richest countries, and back then, taxes were lower in Sweden than in the United States.”
It was only after that, says Norberg, “did we start expanding the government dramatically.”
“And do you know what happened then? We started losing,” says Norberg.
“It all ended in a terrible crisis.”

onecut
04-09-2016, 10:56 AM
Swedish Economist Schools Sanders On The Ravages Of Socialism (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/swedish-economist-schools-sanders-on-the-ravages-of-socialism/)

One would think that this would be self evident: that socialism, as practiced, causes much more harm than good. Bernie wants more of it. This Swedish economists explains why Bernie is wrong.

I have been reading about the "Imminent" collapse of socialist Sweden for the better part of forty years. I do wish they would get on with it!

Chris
04-09-2016, 11:01 AM
I have been reading about the "Imminent" collapse of socialist Sweden for the better part of forty years. I do wish they would get on with it!

That's not what the economist in the video says. You should listen to him first.

Puukey
04-09-2016, 11:11 PM
The Scandanavian countries are consistently the top (5?) happiest countries on earth for a few years now. Does a citizen's happiness matter? Or is money the most important criterium to measure a country with?

michiganFats
04-09-2016, 11:17 PM
The Scandanavian countries are consistently the top (5?) happiest countries on earth for a few years now. Does a citizen's happiness matter? Or is money the most important criterium to measure a country with?

Suicide rate?

del
04-10-2016, 12:34 AM
Suicide rate?

58th place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_Worl d_Health_Organization_.282012.29

michiganFats
04-10-2016, 12:41 AM
58th place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_Worl d_Health_Organization_.282012.29

Finland is 33, Iceland is 35. According to your own link.

Research son...didn't you tell someone else today to know their shit before they open their pie hole?

Peter1469
04-10-2016, 09:47 AM
I have been reading about the "Imminent" collapse of socialist Sweden for the better part of forty years. I do wish they would get on with it!

No you have not been reading about the collapse of socialist Sweden for 40 years. That is a falsehood.

Read the article. Then post an intelligent response.

Peter1469
04-10-2016, 09:48 AM
The Scandanavian countries are consistently the top (5?) happiest countries on earth for a few years now. Does a citizen's happiness matter? Or is money the most important criterium to measure a country with?

Sure it matters. But what happens when the citizens realize that they can vote themselves the contents of the public treasury?

del
04-10-2016, 09:54 AM
Finland is 33, Iceland is 35. According to your own link.

Research son...didn't you tell someone else today to know their shit before they open their pie hole?

you asked about sweden, pops

have a nice day

onecut
04-10-2016, 02:27 PM
No you have not been reading about the collapse of socialist Sweden for 40 years. That is a falsehood.

Read the article. Then post an intelligent response.

Pending collapse due to their socialistic ways.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sweden+to+collaps+due+to+socialism