Christian China in 古 亞 Ancient Asia from 2500 BC

[Ivan88]

The Gospel of Christ is built into the Chinese written language 4500 years ago.
古 gu, ancient

亞 Ya, asia (Ya, the name of God in old Aramaic, Abraham's language)
The Name of God: Shang Di, 上帝 aka, Jesus Christ from Genesis to Christ's Resurrection and beyond making Christ the Roots and God of China:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA-AkJzpKmg&amp;feature=related

“I have become convinced,” writes Chan Kei Thong,
“that the ancient Chinese worshipped the Creator of the Universe in a manner similar to that prescribed in the Old Testament.”

The Chinese classics are filled with symbolic signposts to Shang Di as a creator deity who watched over the affairs of humankind and whose moral favor needed to be carefully placated.

Chinese emperors inherited an understanding that each of them acted as the “Son of Heaven” in ruling China and owed a regular accountability to a force infinitely above themselves: Shang Si, or the often-used synonym Tian (“heaven”).
http://um-group16.blogspot.com/2009/02/faith-in-creator-god-in-ancient-china_06.html

http://www.faithofourfathersbooks.com/images/home_buy_thumbnail.gif The English version is a handsomely illustrated and laid-out volume, complete with time-lines of world, Hebrew, and Chinese history, a bibliography, and high quality color photographs of Chinese cultural objects that, Thong believes, give support to his thesis.
http://www.faithofourfathersbooks.com/sub_overview.html

[Chris]

So Christianity which follows Christ precedes Christ? :f_doh:

[Ivan88]

Chinese bureaucrats don't want people to sit on stone benches around trees, so they put fence around bench.
http://www.chinahush.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/20120831-seat-04.jpg

[Ivan88]

So Christianity which follows Christ precedes Christ? :f_doh:

Christianity began before Abraham. Abraham looked forward to Christ.

[shaarona]

Christianity began before Abraham. Abraham looked forward to Christ.

What did Abraham have to say about Jesus?

[RollingWave]

you can make up almost any words with any given ancient chinese charactor, that's just wishful thinking there.

Christianity did reach china at the latest by around the 7th century though.

[Chris]

you can make up almost any words with any given ancient chinese charactor, that's just wishful thinking there.

Christianity did reach china at the latest by around the 7th century though.

Yes, Christianity spread early to China.

With the great trade routes between east and west there were no doubt early influences both ways.

[Ivan88]

What did Abraham have to say about Jesus?

In Genesis 18 he talks to the Lord who has come to visit him.
All the Prophets spoke of what Abraham has to say about the Messiah, the lamb, and so have some of the Chinese words for 4500 years.
The Messiah speaking: "... father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." John 8:56

[Chris]

I think the Jews had something else in mind.

[shaarona]

I think the Jews had something else in mind.

Well Yeah.. The Jewish Messiah is an annointed warrior king like David who will vanish their enemies.

[RollingWave]

the term Asia is a very new one to China, no older than 200 years, the word Ya, generally speaking, typically refer to either "second (place)" or "sub (continent)"

[Ivan88]

the term Asia is a very new one to China, no older than 200 years, the word Ya, generally speaking, typically refer to either "second (place)" or "sub (continent)"

Is RollingWave saying that there was no word for Asia in the Chinese language till 200 years ago?

Even if that is so, that they chose the name of God for Asia in the form of a cross, shows that China is a Christian nation.
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress8ouv/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Ya_Asia.JPG

[Chris]

Is RollingWave saying that there was no word for Asia in the Chinese language till 200 years ago?

Even if that is so, that they chose the name of God for Asia in the form of a cross, shows that China is a Christian nation.
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress8ouv/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Ya_Asia.JPG

This is the Chinese symbol for God:

http://i.snag.gy/eMjrz.jpg

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_terms_for_God:
The earliest introduction of documented Judeo-Christian religion appears to be Jǐng jiào (景教, literally, "bright teaching") around 635 AD, whose proponents were Nestorian Christians from Persia. Their term for God was Zhēnzhǔ (真主, literally "Veritable Majesty", or "True Lord").

...The earliest documented Chinese Roman Catholic church was founded in China in about 1289. The Roman Catholic Church historically favored Tīanzhǔ (天主, literally, "Heavenly Lord", or "Lord of Heaven")...

The earliest Protestant missionary to China, Robert Morrison, arrived there in 1807. Before this time, Bibles were not printed for distribution. Protestantism is colloquially referred to as Jīdū jìao (基督教, meaning "religion of Christ")...

...The term Zhǔ (主,literally "Lord") is used by both Catholics and traditional Protestants in less formal prayers, and usually by contemporary Protestants.
Other less formal terms are used, for example, Tīanfù (天父, literally "Heavenly Father")....

[RollingWave]

Because all Chinese word originate from some sort of symbol, for example the word for farm is literally 4 square put together . (like a rice paddie)

you can see whatever you like in a word. but your drawing a very very far line to suggest that the word Ya is based on a cross and thus means Christ.

As I said, in ancient Chinese, the word's closest translation to English would be "secondary", for exapmle, we still call "second place" in a competition today (like the Olympics) 亞軍

I am not entirely sure of the symoblic origin of Ya, some are more obious than others, also, the most original chinese writings that far back looks different, it will look closer to
http://www.cidianwang.com/file/jiezi/1xAl9120.gif

[Ivan88]

Yes, Shang di is old Chinese name for god.
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[Ivan88]

Shi Shi, Thanks Rolling Wave for your input.