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Peter1469
04-17-2016, 04:05 AM
Obama immigration actions face critical day at high court (http://Monday marks a critical day for President Obama’s executive actions on immigration, as his legal team makes arguments to the Supreme Court to allow them to go forward. In oral arguments, the Obama administration will ask the justices to lift a lower court injunction that blocked the implementation of the programs, which would allow millions of undocumented immigrants to live and work in the U.S. without fear of deportation. A group of 26 states, led by Texas, will argue the injunction should be kept in place because Obama overstepped his authority and the programs would pose high costs on their governments. The court is expected to hand down a ruling in June. But Obama and his allies are facing the possibility of a deadlock that would hand a victory to Texas and the states. If the short-handed court splits 4-4, the lower court’s ruling would be left in place, which would virtually guarantee the programs will not go into place before Obama leaves office. “The 500-pound gorilla is the empty chair of Justice [Antonin] Scalia,” said Josh Blackman, a constitutional law professor at the South Texas College of Law, who helped file a legal brief backing the lawsuit against Obama’s programs.)

On Monday SCOTUS will here the case challenging Obama's use of executive orders to create immigration law. The Court has already struck down much of what Obama attempted to do with EOs.


Monday marks a critical day for President Obama’s executive actions on immigration, as his legal team makes arguments to the Supreme Court to allow them to go forward.

In oral arguments, the Obama administration will ask the justices to lift a lower court injunction that blocked the implementation of the programs, which would allow millions of undocumented immigrants to live and work in the U.S. without fear of deportation.


A group of 26 states, led by Texas, will argue the injunction should be kept in place because Obama overstepped his authority and the programs would pose high costs on their governments.

The court is expected to hand down a ruling in June. But Obama and his allies are facing the possibility of a deadlock that would hand a victory to Texas and the states.


If the short-handed court splits 4-4, the lower court’s ruling would be left in place, which would virtually guarantee the programs will not go into place before Obama leaves office.


“The 500-pound gorilla is the empty chair of Justice [Antonin] Scalia,” said Josh Blackman, a constitutional law professor at the South Texas College of Law, who helped file a legal brief backing the lawsuit against Obama’s programs.

Mac-7
04-17-2016, 06:54 AM
Obama immigration actions face critical day at high court (http://Monday marks a critical day for President Obama’s executive actions on immigration, as his legal team makes arguments to the Supreme Court to allow them to go forward. In oral arguments, the Obama administration will ask the justices to lift a lower court injunction that blocked the implementation of the programs, which would allow millions of undocumented immigrants to live and work in the U.S. without fear of deportation. A group of 26 states, led by Texas, will argue the injunction should be kept in place because Obama overstepped his authority and the programs would pose high costs on their governments. The court is expected to hand down a ruling in June. But Obama and his allies are facing the possibility of a deadlock that would hand a victory to Texas and the states. If the short-handed court splits 4-4, the lower court’s ruling would be left in place, which would virtually guarantee the programs will not go into place before Obama leaves office. “The 500-pound gorilla is the empty chair of Justice [Antonin] Scalia,” said Josh Blackman, a constitutional law professor at the South Texas College of Law, who helped file a legal brief backing the lawsuit against Obama’s programs.)

On Monday SCOTUS will here the case challenging Obama's use of executive orders to create immigration law. The Court has already struck down much of what Obama attempted to do with EOs.

Here's hoping for a 4-4 decision.

Tahuyaman
04-17-2016, 11:06 AM
Here's hoping for a 4-4 decision.


No. I'm hoping that their decision is based on the constitutional restraints placed upon a president.

MisterVeritis
04-17-2016, 11:17 AM
If the president's actions are, in any way upheld, the nation is over. We can eliminate the legislative branch.

Peter1469
04-17-2016, 11:46 AM
Here's hoping for a 4-4 decision.

A lot of the SCOTUS cases concerning his Executive Orders have been unanimous. Against the regime.

MisterVeritis
04-17-2016, 11:49 AM
A lot of the SCOTUS cases concerning his Executive Orders have been unanimous. Against the regime.
That is the appropriate response. The weak legislative branch had the tools it needed to overcome this lawless president. I despise Boehner and McConnell. Their inaction has harmed this nation and the harm will continue to be felt every time we elect a lawless president.

Peter1469
04-17-2016, 11:55 AM
That is the appropriate response. The weak legislative branch had the tools it needed to overcome this lawless president. I despise Boehner and McConnell. Their inaction has harmed this nation and the harm will continue to be felt every time we elect a lawless president.

100% correct.

Mac-7
04-17-2016, 05:00 PM
No. I'm hoping that their decision is based on the constitutional restraints placed upon a president.

Supreme Court decisions have little to do with the Constitution.

At best only the 2 conservatives on the court even care what the Constitution says.

Tahuyaman
04-17-2016, 05:14 PM
Supreme Court decisions have little to do with the Constitution.

At best only the 2 conservatives on the court even care what the Constitution says.

I'm an optimist at heart. I'll remaine hopeful that even the most partisan and left wing justices place more loyalty on the constitution than they do a particular personality.

Tahuyaman
04-17-2016, 05:16 PM
That is the appropriate response. The weak legislative branch had the tools it needed to overcome this lawless president. I despise Boehner and McConnell. Their inaction has harmed this nation and the harm will continue to be felt every time we elect a lawless president.

They failed to act because they were too busy trying to gain the favor of the media by being bipartisan.

Mac-7
04-17-2016, 05:21 PM
I'm an optimist at heart. I'll remaine hopeful that even the most partisan and left wing justices place more loyalty on the constitution than they do a particular personality.

The most partisan and leftwing judges are worst of the bunch

but roberts and kennedy cant be trusted either

Tahuyaman
04-17-2016, 05:37 PM
The most partisan and leftwing judges are worst of the bunch

but roberts and kennedy cant be trusted either

but all of them are capable of occasionally doing the right thing. Even the uber left wing justices may not want to affirm the precedent Obama has attempted to set. Imagine what an ultra right or even slightly right wing president could do by abusing the process as Obama has?

Mac-7
04-17-2016, 05:41 PM
but all of them are capable of occasionally doing the right thing. Even the uber left wing justices may not want to affirm the precedent Obama has attempted to set. Imagine what an ultra right or even slightly right wing president could do by abusing the process as Obama has?

Of course the liberal judges are capable of doing the right thing.

but they never do

Tahuyaman
04-17-2016, 06:00 PM
Of course the liberal judges are capable of doing the right thing.

but they never do

No, they do, but it's rare.

Mac-7
04-17-2016, 06:17 PM
No, they do, but it's rare.

Very rare.

and while obama immigration pandering is not popular in the rest of America around washington dc it is much loved

so the judges will gets pats on the back at their usual establishment hangouts and think they did the right thing.

Tahuyaman
04-17-2016, 06:58 PM
Very rare.

and while obama immigration pandering is not popular in the rest of America around washington dc it is much loved

so the judges will gets pats on the back at their usual establishment hangouts and think they did the right thing.

Washington DC is not in any way attached to the rest of the country.

Peter1469
04-19-2016, 04:30 PM
It looks like it may be a 4-4 decision (http://Sure, Timberline Lodge starred in the movie version of Stephen King's horror classic "The Shining." But King actually drew inspiration for the paranormal story, featuring ghosts, extrasensory powers and "redrum," during a stay at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado. Maybe a real ghost was whispering in his ear during his stay. The hotel appears to be teeming with ghoulish spirits. Earlier this week, guest Henry Yau snapped a panorama photo of the Stanley Hotel's famous lobby, including the grand stairwell. No one was on the stairs when Yau took the photo, he said. But check out what his camera captured: An apparition in period clothing standing on the stairwell.)which will maintain the 5th Circuit decision against Obama.


President Barack Obama's bid to save his plan to spare millions of immigrants in the country illegally from deportation and give them work permits ran into trouble on Monday at the U.S. Supreme Court in a case testing the limits of presidential power.The court, with four conservative justices and four liberals, seemed divided along ideological lines during 90 minutes of arguments in the case brought by 26 states led by Texas that sued to block Obama's unilateral 2014 executive action that bypassed Congress.


Liberal justices voiced support for Obama's action. The conservatives sounded skeptical. A 4-4 decision would be a grim defeat for Obama because it would uphold lower court rulings that threw out his action last year and doom his quest to revamp a U.S. immigration policy he calls broken.