Hillary thinks she is clever on Wall Street Speeches

[texan]

She insults dem voters by saying I will release mine when everyone else releases theirs..........LOL...........She thinks that's cute for now because Bernie can't do anything against the dem machine in collusion with the Clinton machine.

Trump will release his speeches Hillary (whatever that means and call your bluff. Let's she what BS card you play then that turns off all of the Bernie voters you think will come along....

This second round will be much different without all the power on your side.

[Cigar]

I'm a Dem, and I don't Care what she said at Wall Street as a American Citizen

[Green Arrow]

I'm a Dem, and I don't Care what she said at Wall Street as a American Citizen

Then you don't care about the economic and financial platform your party claims to uphold.

[Quicksilver]

Then you don't care about the economic and financial platform your party claims to uphold.

How do you insinuate that Clinton can do anything as President to benefit wall street? Wall Street is only interested in the Legislative Branch who actually have the power to pass laws that will benefit them.. This is why Congress is forbidden from giving paid speeches. A President doesn't have that kind of power and would not be able to grant anything to Wall Street on his/her own... not without Congressional approval.. We must learn Civics 101 before attempting to make reasonable arguments on a political forum.

[del]

yeah, the president is pretty much powerless and can have no effect on wall st.

do you actually read this shit before you post it?

[Quicksilver]

yeah, the president is pretty much powerless and can have no effect on wall st.

do you actually read this $#@! before you post it?

Well well.... Look who woke up.... "Little" man.. hahahahahahahah Since you think you know.. outline exactly WHAT a President can do on his/her own to make wall street want to pay him/her mega$$$ for a speech..?

[del]

i'll get back to you, sugartits

first, i need to explain to a 2 year old why fish get wet.

[Quicksilver]

i'll get back to you, sugartits

first, i need to explain to a 2 year old why fish get wet.


You do that Limpdick..... A two year old is about your speed..

[del]

You do that Limpdick..... A two year old is about your speed..

don't feel bad, you'll catch up

[Subdermal]

How do you insinuate that Clinton can do anything as President to benefit wall street? Wall Street is only interested in the Legislative Branch who actually have the power to pass laws that will benefit them.. This is why Congress is forbidden from giving paid speeches. A President doesn't have that kind of power and would not be able to grant anything to Wall Street on his/her own... not without Congressional approval.. We must learn Civics 101 before attempting to make reasonable arguments on a political forum.

:biglaugh:

:facepalm:

[del]

it's not like any of the regulatory agencies, like the sec, are part of the executive branch, right?

[Green Arrow]

How do you insinuate that Clinton can do anything as President to benefit wall street? Wall Street is only interested in the Legislative Branch who actually have the power to pass laws that will benefit them.. This is why Congress is forbidden from giving paid speeches. A President doesn't have that kind of power and would not be able to grant anything to Wall Street on his/her own... not without Congressional approval.. We must learn Civics 101 before attempting to make reasonable arguments on a political forum.

I agree, you should learn Civics 101 before trying to engage me in political discussion. The president has control over several areas of the federal government that set favorable (to Wall St) financial policies and rules with little input from Congress, like the Federal Reserve, FCC, CFPB, Labor Dept, and FTC, to name a few.

[The Sage of Main Street]

How do you insinuate that Clinton can do anything as President to benefit wall street? Wall Street is only interested in the Legislative Branch who actually have the power to pass laws that will benefit them.. This is why Congress is forbidden from giving paid speeches. A President doesn't have that kind of power and would not be able to grant anything to Wall Street on his/her own... not without Congressional approval.. We must learn Civics 101 before attempting to make reasonable arguments on a political forum.

Textbooks are props for crooks to hide behind.

[Quicksilver]

I agree, you should learn Civics 101 before trying to engage me in political discussion. The president has control over several areas of the federal government that set favorable (to Wall St) financial policies and rules with little input from Congress, like the Federal Reserve, FCC, CFPB, Labor Dept, and FTC, to name a few.

The president is unable to pass laws.. and has NO control over the Federal Reserve. Other than appointing a Chairman.. who must be confirmed by Congress.. It operates independently but is accountable to CONGRESS...



While the Federal Reserve is an independent institution, it is still accountable to Congress. The Constitution gives Congress the power to coin money and set its value. Congress delegated this power to the Federal Reserve in the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, but still maintains oversight authority. Under the Humphrey-Hawkins Act of 1978, the Federal Reserve must submit a report on the economy to Congress by February 20 and July 20 of each year. Alan Greenspan, the current Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, is called to testify on the report before Senate and House Committees.


http://www.thisnation.com/question/033.html


While the other Regulatory agencies are considered part of the Executive Branch.. they are not controlled by the President.. Wiki states:



A regulatory agency (also regulatory authority, regulatory body or regulator) is a public authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_benefit_corporation) or government agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_agency) responsible for exercising autonomous authority over some area of human activity in a regulatory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation) or supervisory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervisory) capacity. An independent regulatory agency is a regulatory agency that is independent from other branches or arms of the government.
Regulatory agencies deal in the area of administrative law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law), regulation or rulemaking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulemaking) (codifying and enforcing rules and regulations and imposing supervision or oversight for the benefit of the public at large). The existence of independent regulatory agencies is justified by the complexity of certain regulatory and supervisory tasks that require expertise, the need for rapid implementation of public authority in certain sectors, and the drawbacks of political interference. Some independent regulatory agencies perform investigations or audits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audit), and othera may fine the relevant parties and order certain measures.
Regulatory agencies are usually a part of the executive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_(government)) branch of the government, and they have statutory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory) authority to perform their functions with oversight from the legislative branch. Their actions are generally open to legal review (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review). Regulatory authorities are commonly set up to enforce standards and safety or to oversee use of public goods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good) and regulate commerce (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce). Examples of regulatory agencies are the Interstate Commerce Commission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Commerce_Commission) and the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration) in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicines_and_Healthcare_Products_Regulatory_Agenc y) in the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), Ofcom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom) in the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), and the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_Regulatory_Authority_of_India). See Internet regulation in Turkey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_regulation_in_Turkey) for additional examples.



Are you really sure YOU want to engage me in a political discussion?



I have the number for a good junior college where you can enroll in a government course if you want it.

[Quicksilver]

^^^^^^^^don't you feel a tad bit stupid? lol!!



it's not like any of the regulatory agencies, like the sec, are part of the executive branch, right?

[Quicksilver]

The following points remain FACT. Clinton did NOT make paid speeches while a sitting Senator or Secretary of State... She was legally prohibited from doing so.. as are all Congressmen. She DID make them as a private citizen... which was her right to do..

As President.. she will not be in a position to "grant favors" or pass legislation to favor Wall street as adequately demonstrated in post #14. The entire "transcript" crap is nothing but a strawman and a distraction of NO substance. But that's what the GOP is counting on.. Uninformed people like those in this thread believing it's a big deal...

[Chris]

Well well.... Look who woke up.... "Little" man.. hahahahahahahah Since you think you know.. outline exactly WHAT a President can do on his/her own to make wall street want to pay him/her mega$$$ for a speech..?


i'll get back to you, sugartits

first, i need to explain to a 2 year old why fish get wet.


Lay off the name calling and try to discuss topic, please.

[del]

lol

[Cigar]

It's getting a little testy around here lately ... I wonder what it could be? :laugh:

Relax, November will get here soon enough.

[The Xl]

Banks aren't cutting 6 figure checks to hear this broad speak. If you don't understand that this is a quid pro quo bribe, then you're either unbelievably biased or not that bright.

[del]

Banks aren't cutting 6 figure checks to hear this broad speak. If you don't understand that this is a quid pro quo bribe, then you're either unbelievably biased or not that bright.

those aren't mutually exclusive

[Quicksilver]

Banks aren't cutting 6 figure checks to hear this broad speak. If you don't understand that this is a quid pro quo bribe, then you're either unbelievably biased or not that bright.

As demonstrated..... As President.. Clinton is not in a position to grant them anything... Maybe they really did just need a keynote speaker... it's tax deductible as a business expense afterall..

[del]

doubling down on teh stupid

always a good move

[Quicksilver]

doubling down on teh stupid

always a good move

Yes... You certainly are.

[del]

lol

[hanger4]

I don't understand her problem with releasing the transcripts. Transparency and all that stuff. Of course if the transcripts show her utter hypocrisy well ...... that makes since.

[Quicksilver]

I don't understand her problem with releasing the transcripts. Transparency and all that stuff. Of course if the transcripts show her utter hypocrisy well ...... that makes since.

Just what kind of things could she have said? It's been proven that as President she cannot offer them anything.. The Feds and all Regualtory agencies while part of the Executive Branch, are independent and under the authority of the Legislative branch... So what dastardly evil things could there be in those speeches... Plus.. she has offered to release provided the GOP nominee does too. Why should she be held to a different standard.

[del]

Just what kind of things could she have said? It's been proven that as President she cannot offer them anything.. The Feds and all Regualtory agencies while part of the Executive Branch, are independent and under the authority of the Legislative branch... So what dastardly evil things could there be in those speeches... Plus.. she has offered to release provided the GOP nominee does too. Why should she be held to a different standard.

on what planet?

hint: if they are part of the executive, they aren't under the authority of the legislative.

jebus, some people's children...

[Quicksilver]

on what planet?

hint: if they are part of the executive, they aren't under the authority of the legislative.

jebus, some people's children...

Good Lord... Can't you read?

From my LINK post #14


A regulatory agency (also regulatory authority, regulatory body or regulator) is a public authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_benefit_corporation) or government agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_agency) responsible for exercising autonomous authority over some area of human activity in a regulatory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation) or supervisory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervisory) capacity. An independent regulatory agency is a regulatory agency that is independent from other branches or arms of the government.
Regulatory agencies deal in the area of administrative law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law), regulation or rulemaking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulemaking) (codifying and enforcing rules and regulations and imposing supervision or oversight for the benefit of the public at large). The existence of independent regulatory agencies is justified by the complexity of certain regulatory and supervisory tasks that require expertise, the need for rapid implementation of public authority in certain sectors, and the drawbacks of political interference. Some independent regulatory agencies perform investigations or audits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audit), and othera may fine the relevant parties and order certain measures.
Regulatory agencies are usually a part of the executive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_(government)) branch of the government, and they have statutory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory) authority to perform their functions with oversight from the legislative branch. Their actions are generally open to legal review (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review). Regulatory authorities are commonly set up to enforce standards and safety or to oversee use of public goods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good) and regulate commerce (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce). Examples of regulatory agencies are the Interstate Commerce Commission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Commerce_Commission) and the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration) in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicines_and_Healthcare_Products_Regulatory_Agenc y) in the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), Ofcom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom) in the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), and the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_Regulatory_Authority_of_India). See Internet regulation in Turkey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_regulation_in_Turkey) for additional examples.

You really are quite dense... aren't you

[del]

Good Lord... Can't you read?

why?

did your service animal run away?

[Quicksilver]

why?

did your service animal run away?


Try looking at the post above....

From my link in post #14....


A regulatory agency (also regulatory authority, regulatory body or regulator) is a public authority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_benefit_corporation) or government agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_agency) responsible for exercising autonomous authority over some area of human activity in a regulatory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation) or supervisory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervisory) capacity. An independent regulatory agency is a regulatory agency that is independent from other branches or arms of the government.
Regulatory agencies deal in the area of administrative law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law), regulation or rulemaking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rulemaking) (codifying and enforcing rules and regulations and imposing supervision or oversight for the benefit of the public at large). The existence of independent regulatory agencies is justified by the complexity of certain regulatory and supervisory tasks that require expertise, the need for rapid implementation of public authority in certain sectors, and the drawbacks of political interference. Some independent regulatory agencies perform investigations or audits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audit), and othera may fine the relevant parties and order certain measures.
Regulatory agencies are usually a part of the executive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_(government)) branch of the government, and they have statutory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory) authority to perform their functions with oversight from the legislative branch. Their actions are generally open to legal review (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review). Regulatory authorities are commonly set up to enforce standards and safety or to oversee use of public goods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good) and regulate commerce (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce). Examples of regulatory agencies are the Interstate Commerce Commission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Commerce_Commission) and the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration) in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicines_and_Healthcare_Products_Regulatory_Agenc y) in the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), Ofcom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom) in the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), and the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_Regulatory_Authority_of_India). See Internet regulation in Turkey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_regulation_in_Turkey) for additional examples.

Just how stupid do you feel now?

[del]

nowhere near as.....

well, i'll be polite and call it naive.

my advice to you would be to fill your pockets with rocks on windy days.

[Quicksilver]

nowhere near as.....

well, i'll be polite and call it naive.

my advice to you would be to fill your pockets with rocks on windy days.

Translation = "You've schooled me and I have no other way to respond but to insult"

That's ok little one... it's never to late to learn from your superiors

[del]

Translation = "You've schooled me and I have no other way to respond but to insult"

That's ok little one... it's never to late to learn from your superiors

the next time you school anyone will be the first time.

executive branch regulatory agencies report to the president.

the president appoints the people who run the regulatory agencies.

the people who run the regulatory agencies take their direction from the president.

do i need to go on, or is this starting to get through the walls of hillary's duodenum to you?

[Quicksilver]

the next time you school anyone will be the first time.

executive branch regulatory agencies report to the president.

the president appoints the people who run the regulatory agencies.

the people who run the regulatory agencies take their direction from the president.

do i need to go on, or is this starting to get through the walls of hillary's duodenum to you?


You are WRONG.... Please provide links to prove your statement... I have.. and you can't.. Why don't you just take this as a learning experience? Usually when a smart person finds themselves in a hole... they stop digging..

[del]

You are WRONG.... Please provide links to prove your statement... I have.. and you can't.. Why don't you just take this as a learning experience? Usually when a smart person finds themselves in a hole... they stop digging..

do you know a smart person?

call them and ask for help



Organization of the SEC The SEC consists of five presidentially-appointed Commissioners, with staggered five-year terms (see SEC Organization Chart (http://www.sec.gov/images/secorg.pdf); text version (http://www.sec.gov/about/orgtext.htm) also available). One of them is designated by the President as Chairman of the Commission — the agency's chief executive. By law, no more than three of the Commissioners may belong to the same political party, ensuring non-partisanship. The agency's functional responsibilities are organized into five Divisions and 23 Offices, each of which is headquartered in Washington, DC. The Commission's approximately 4,600 staff are located in Washington and in 11 Regional Offices (http://www.sec.gov/contact/addresses.htm) throughout the country.

http://www.sec.gov/about/whatwedo.shtml

[Captain Obvious]

the next time you school anyone will be the first time.

executive branch regulatory agencies report to the president.

the president appoints the people who run the regulatory agencies.

the people who run the regulatory agencies take their direction from the president.

do i need to go on, or is this starting to get through the walls of hillary's duodenum to you?

heh... he heh... he said... duodenum

he heh...

[hanger4]

Just what kind of things could she have said? It's been proven that as President she cannot offer them anything.. The Feds and all Regualtory agencies while part of the Executive Branch, are independent and under the authority of the Legislative branch... So what dastardly evil things could there be in those speeches... Plus.. she has offered to release provided the GOP nominee does too. Why should she be held to a different standard.
She set the standard. I doubt anything dastardly, more than likely telling the bankers to pay no attention to what she tells the masses. Besides by not releasing the transcripts she just gives the impression she hiding something.

[Quicksilver]

She set the standard. I doubt anything dastardly, more than likely telling the bankers to pay no attention to what she tells the masses. Besides by not releasing the transcripts she just gives the impression she hiding something.

Of course Hanger.... You and your ilk see a conspiracy around every corner.. particularly when it comes to Clinton.. The FACT that she can offer them nothing as President doesn't bother you at all.. Just the insinuation of some sort of "guilt".... it doesn't even have to have substance.. and that is enough to send shivers down your leg.

[del]

^

thinks if she keeps saying it, it will be true.

cds, sad

[hanger4]

Of course Hanger.... You and your ilk see a conspiracy around every corner.. particularly when it comes to Clinton.. The FACT that she can offer them nothing as President doesn't bother you at all.. Just the insinuation of some sort of "guilt".... it doesn't even have to have substance.. and that is enough to send shivers down your leg.

For sombody that claims HC has nothing to hide, transparency and all that stuff, you sure are spending a lot of time covering for her.

[texan]

I'm a Dem, and I don't Care what she said at Wall Street as a American Citizen

Not the point sir.

[texan]

Well well.... Look who woke up.... "Little" man.. hahahahahahahah Since you think you know.. outline exactly WHAT a President can do on his/her own to make wall street want to pay him/her mega$$$ for a speech..?

Decide not to prosecute ring a bell?

[Green Arrow]

The president is unable to pass laws.. and has NO control over the Federal Reserve. Other than appointing a Chairman.. who must be confirmed by Congress.. It operates independently but is accountable to CONGRESS...





http://www.thisnation.com/question/033.html


While the other Regulatory agencies are considered part of the Executive Branch.. they are not controlled by the President.. Wiki states:






Are you really sure YOU want to engage me in a political discussion?



I have the number for a good junior college where you can enroll in a government course if you want it.


First of all, we've already acknowledged that Congress is bought and paid for by special interests. Additionally, every single member of the federal government is accountable to Congress. By your logic, that means the president can't do anything but sit in the Oval twiddling their thumbs all day. They are accountable to Congress because Congress allots them money to use to do what they need to do. They all still set rules and regulations (not laws - no idea where you got that from) virtually independently.

Second, the heads of all those agencies are appointed by the president. Yes, Congress votes on whether or not to approve them, but the president maintains the power to appoint heads to those agencies that would persue rules and regulations that are either helpful to Wall St. or harmful. If the president was anti-Wall St., they could constantly appoint fellow anti-Wall St.ers and all Congress could do is either keep rejecting them or confirm them. Either way, the outcome is not favorable to Wall St.

Third, did you know our foreign policy can also be favorable to Wall St.? The president almost has total control over how that goes.

[hanger4]

First of all, we've already acknowledged that Congress is bought and paid for by special interests. Additionally, every single member of the federal government is accountable to Congress. By your logic, that means the president can't do anything but sit in the Oval twiddling their thumbs all day. They are accountable to Congress because Congress allots them money to use to do what they need to do. They all still set rules and regulations (not laws - no idea where you got that from) virtually independently.

Second, the heads of all those agencies are appointed by the president. Yes, Congress votes on whether or not to approve them, but the president maintains the power to appoint heads to those agencies that would persue rules and regulations that are either helpful to Wall St. or harmful. If the president was anti-Wall St., they could constantly appoint fellow anti-Wall St.ers and all Congress could do is either keep rejecting them or confirm them. Either way, the outcome is not favorable to Wall St.

Third, did you know our foreign policy can also be favorable to Wall St.? The president almost has total control over how that goes.

But but but


Are you really sure YOU want to engage me in a political discussion?

I laughed

[Quicksilver]

But but but



I laughed

I would expect nothing else from you...

[del]

still?

:biglaugh:

[hanger4]

I would expect nothing else from you...

Aaaaaaah and I thought you might rebut GA's post.

[The Xl]

First of all, we've already acknowledged that Congress is bought and paid for by special interests. Additionally, every single member of the federal government is accountable to Congress. By your logic, that means the president can't do anything but sit in the Oval twiddling their thumbs all day. They are accountable to Congress because Congress allots them money to use to do what they need to do. They all still set rules and regulations (not laws - no idea where you got that from) virtually independently.

Second, the heads of all those agencies are appointed by the president. Yes, Congress votes on whether or not to approve them, but the president maintains the power to appoint heads to those agencies that would persue rules and regulations that are either helpful to Wall St. or harmful. If the president was anti-Wall St., they could constantly appoint fellow anti-Wall St.ers and all Congress could do is either keep rejecting them or confirm them. Either way, the outcome is not favorable to Wall St.

Third, did you know our foreign policy can also be favorable to Wall St.? The president almost has total control over how that goes.

Ease up GA, murder is illegal.

[The Xl]

Aaaaaaah and I thought you might rebut GA's post.

Don't hold your breath on that.

[Green Arrow]

Ease up GA, murder is illegal.

Sorry, I take it personally when people question my political acumen. I've worked on three presidential campaigns and I'm not even 25 yet. I know what I'm talking about :tongue: