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Bo-4
04-30-2016, 08:58 AM
Gettin' 'er done per usual eh? Why don't they just stay home and do nothing for half of what we pay them. I'll volunteer for that job!


WASHINGTON — If you ask Republicans what’s the most significant piece of legislation they’ve passed this year, you’re unlikely to get a quick, definitive response.

“I’d have to give it some thought,” Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) said Friday.

“I’d have to go back and look,” Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) said earlier this week.

“We’re changing America,” Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) said with a laugh, in response to a question about Congress filling its days by renaming post offices and designating the bison as the national mammal.

Lawmakers left town Friday not having acted on legislation to help Puerto Rico, not having done a budget and not completed action on a single appropriations bill.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-accomplishments-do-nothing_us_5723801ae4b01a5ebde56947

stjames1_53
04-30-2016, 09:18 AM
what do I care just as long as they are moving against the prez Bo edicts

hanger4
04-30-2016, 09:26 AM
You Can’t Call It A Do Nothing Congress Anymore

http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/congress-passing-laws/

Bo-4
04-30-2016, 09:50 AM
what do I care just as long as they are moving against the prez Bo edicts

Well there's a predictable response. Any post offices you'd like to rename "Reagan"?

Bo-4
04-30-2016, 09:55 AM
You Can’t Call It A Do Nothing Congress Anymore

http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/congress-passing-laws/

That was LAST year. Here's their major accomplishment for this one.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/29/476192259/the-bison-is-poised-to-become-the-u-s-national-mammal

hanger4
04-30-2016, 10:06 AM
That was LAST year. Here's their major accomplishment for this one.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/29/476192259/the-bison-is-poised-to-become-the-u-s-national-mammal

Congress tends to introduce fewer bills during election years.

Crepitus
04-30-2016, 10:21 AM
Actually since both houses are republican dominated at the moment I'm kinda glad they aren't doing anything.

Bo-4
04-30-2016, 10:24 AM
Actually since both houses are republican dominated at the moment I'm kinda glad they aren't doing anything.

They can't as long as Obama has the veto pen.

It would be nice to fill a few of a record number of judicial vacancies.

The case backup in our federal court system is horrendous.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TakayGFLO84/UfYiGJRRQ0I/AAAAAAAAQO4/XpKv4oF70Rc/s1600/mitch-mcconnell-cecil-turtle-totally-looks-like.jpg

Bo-4
04-30-2016, 10:25 AM
Congress tends to introduce fewer bills during election years.

Why do we pay them to do nothing and show up maybe 2 days a week?

Crepitus
04-30-2016, 10:45 AM
They can't as long as Obama has the veto pen.

It would be nice to fill a few of a record number of judicial vacancies.

The case backup in our federal court system is horrendous.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TakayGFLO84/UfYiGJRRQ0I/AAAAAAAAQO4/XpKv4oF70Rc/s1600/mitch-mcconnell-cecil-turtle-totally-looks-like.jpg
They will all get filled next year and the do-nothing republicans won't have a say after their huge loss in November.

AZ Jim
04-30-2016, 10:58 AM
what do I care just as long as they are moving against the prez Bo edictsThen you are a piss poor American and a idiot!

Chris
04-30-2016, 11:01 AM
"That government is best which governs least." --Henry David Thoreau


Shouldn't this thread be merged with The Big Bang Blows Atheism Sky High (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/61879-The-Big-Bang-Blows-Atheism-Sky-High) where we're also discussing nothing.

Bo-4
04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
"That government is best which governs least." --Henry David Thoreau

Shouldn't this thread be merged with The Big Bang Blows Atheism Sky High (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/61879-The-Big-Bang-Blows-Atheism-Sky-High) where we're also discussing nothing.

Well, Seinfeld was The Show About Nothing and pretty entertaining right? ;-)

Peter1469
04-30-2016, 11:49 AM
Congress is in its current composition for a reason. Complaining that Obama can't get his way is missing the point.

Tahuyaman
04-30-2016, 12:07 PM
Congress is setting a record for do-nothingness this year
The less they do, the more freedoms we retain.

Tahuyaman
04-30-2016, 12:10 PM
Congress is in its current composition for a reason. Complaining that Obama can't get his way is missing the point.

And the current congress betrayed the promise several times to put the brakes on the Obama agenda.

stjames1_53
04-30-2016, 12:33 PM
Well there's a predictable response. Any post offices you'd like to rename "Reagan"?

nope..I like them just the way they are..don't you?

stjames1_53
04-30-2016, 12:35 PM
Well, Seinfeld was The Show About Nothing and pretty entertaining right? ;-)

only to the brainless masses who identify themselves a progressive liberals
which, in and of itself, progressive liberals are anything but progressive.....

birddog
04-30-2016, 12:46 PM
Odumbo won't sign anything worthwhile. After Trump becomes President next year, the country will get back on a sensible course.

birddog
04-30-2016, 12:51 PM
Then you are a piss poor American and a idiot!

No, he's a patriot and a believer in the Constitution. Try it some time, you worthless POS!

Tahuyaman
04-30-2016, 05:12 PM
I wish we had a congress which did nothing more often. Usually when they do something, they do much more harm than good.

Nothing is good when the alternative is doing harm.

Tahuyaman
04-30-2016, 05:15 PM
Congress tends to introduce fewer bills during election years.

Then every year needs to be an election year.

Cletus
04-30-2016, 06:14 PM
Then you are a piss poor American and a idiot!

What do you think they should be doing? How many new laws do you think we need? What new laws do you think we need?

stjames1_53
05-01-2016, 05:43 AM
Then you are a piss poor American and a idiot!

Socialist?

stjames1_53
05-01-2016, 05:45 AM
They can't as long as Obama has the veto pen.

It would be nice to fill a few of a record number of judicial vacancies.

The case backup in our federal court system is horrendous.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TakayGFLO84/UfYiGJRRQ0I/AAAAAAAAQO4/XpKv4oF70Rc/s1600/mitch-mcconnell-cecil-turtle-totally-looks-like.jpg

then, maybe the damned gays should STFU and quit bothering SCOTUS with their frickin' petty bulls*&T

FindersKeepers
05-01-2016, 06:05 AM
That was LAST year. Here's their major accomplishment for this one.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/29/476192259/the-bison-is-poised-to-become-the-u-s-national-mammal


Like most democrats, you fail to understand that conservatives are not in favor of "passing bills" just for the sake of passing bills.

They want reduced government, whereby Big Brother isn't constantly sticking a finger into every aspect of their lives.

That's what they want.

So, while you whine and blubber about a lack of bills being passed, conservatives see it as a great improvement over years of heavy bill-passage.

Your ignorance does not mean they're wrong.

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 07:33 AM
What do you think they should be doing? How many new laws do you think we need? What new laws do you think we need?

Actually, they should be busy repealing certain laws and eliminating several programs, departments and cabinet positions

Captain Obvious
05-01-2016, 09:26 AM
This is a good thing, we don't need high levels of legislative activity.

We should cut our legislators to half of where we are now, state and federal.

stjames1_53
05-01-2016, 01:02 PM
Actually, they should be busy repealing certain laws and eliminating several programs, departments and cabinet positions

a good place to start is any position that begins with "czar"

Bo-4
05-01-2016, 01:38 PM
then, maybe the damned gays should STFU and quit bothering SCOTUS with their frickin' petty bulls*&T

Oh wow dude, that's rich considering that it's dumb, unconstitutional social-con laws that wind up in SCOTUS.

They should know better after hundreds of ass-kickings, but they're like the Energizer Bunny.

Maybe they should STFU and concentrate on meaningful legislation?

Common
05-01-2016, 02:21 PM
There is absolutely no doubt that this has been the most worthless congress in my memory. They did find time however to keep subsidies for the richest corporations that never had a losing quarter. BRAVO!!!!!!!!

domer76
05-01-2016, 02:37 PM
I wish we had a congress which did nothing more often. Usually when they do something, they do much more harm than good.

Nothing is good when the alternative is doing harm.

When do I show up to not do your plumbing for $100 an hour? In fact, since I won't do anything, just mail the money. No check from you unless it's the first of the month when the welfare check gets deposited.

domer76
05-01-2016, 02:39 PM
What do you think they should be doing? How many new laws do you think we need? What new laws do you think we need?

How about immigration reform? Campaign finance reform? An infrastructure bill? Some modifications of the ACA to improve it?

Bo-4
05-01-2016, 03:08 PM
only to the brainless masses who identify themselves a progressive liberals
which, in and of itself, progressive liberals are anything but progressive.....

I'd have guessed that you had no sense of humor.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 03:13 PM
There is absolutely no doubt that this has been the most worthless congress in my memory. They did find time however to keep subsidies for the richest corporations that never had a losing quarter. BRAVO!!!!!!!!

Okay, I asked somebody else and he declined to answer.

What do YOU think they should be doing? What new laws do you think we need? How many new laws do you want added this year?

T had it right. If they were negligent at all, it was in not repealing a large number of laws and trying to undo some of the harm already done by stupid laws and Executive Orders.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 03:16 PM
How about immigration reform?

We have immigration laws. We just need to get the Executive to enforce them.


Campaign finance reform?

What about it?


An infrastructure bill?

You need to address most of that with the states, but I agree, there are some things they should be doing there, although they are probably not the things you want.


Some modifications of the ACA to improve it?

The only way to improve it is to repeal it.

hanger4
05-01-2016, 03:19 PM
We have immigration laws. We just need to get the Executive to enforce them.



What about it?



You need to address most of that with the states, but I agree, there are some things they should be doing there, although they are probably not the tings you want.



The only way to improve it is to repeal it.

As an aside Obama has already vetoed an infrastructure bill.

Bo-4
05-01-2016, 03:30 PM
When do I show up to not do your plumbing for $100 an hour? In fact, since I won't do anything, just mail the money. No check from you unless it's the first of the month when the welfare check gets deposited.

Well, if you showed up .. you it's possible that you might not fix it. So best he mail you a check today (first of the month ;-)

Bo-4
05-01-2016, 03:37 PM
Okay, I asked somebody else and he declined to answer.

What do YOU think they should be doing? What new laws do you think we need? How many new laws do you want added this year?

T had it right. If they were negligent at all, it was in not repealing a large number of laws and trying to undo some of the harm already done by stupid laws and Executive Orders.

If that's the way you feel Cletus, then why do GOP clowns continue trying to change settled law (Roe v Wade, etc) and the Constitution (14th amendment, etc)?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/24/constitution-change-the-gop-believes-in.html

Bo-4
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
If that's the way you feel @Cletus (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1708), then why do GOP clowns continue trying to change settled law (Roe v Wade, etc) and the Constitution (14th amendment, etc)?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/24/constitution-change-the-gop-believes-in.html

Crickets, any of you other cons care to take a stab?

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 04:09 PM
What do YOU think they should be doing? What new laws do you think we need? .

Just about every time they do something, they need to take something away from us.

hanger4
05-01-2016, 04:14 PM
Crickets, any of you other cons care to take a stab?

Not sure what part of this from Cletus' post;

"it was in not repealing a large number of laws and trying to undo some of the harm already done by stupid laws and Executive Orders"

you didn't understand.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 04:15 PM
If that's the way you feel @Cletus (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1708), then why do GOP clowns continue trying to change settled law (Roe v Wade, etc) and the Constitution (14th amendment, etc)?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/24/constitution-change-the-gop-believes-in.html

First, there really is no such thing as "settled law". There are laws that have previously been ruled on and most of the time, the courts will be hesitant to address them again, but with sufficient cause ANY law can be challenged.

Roe v Wade was a bad ruling and the ruling has been misapplied for many years.

The Constitution has built in it, a mechanism for change. There is nothing wrong with trying to change it. What is wrong and this is done far more often by the Left than it is the Right, is to ignore the provisions of the Constitution that you don't like. The Left is terrible about that. You don't like the Second Amendment? Just ignore it and push unconstitutional laws anyway. I mention the Second because your attacks on it are the most frequent and the most obvious, but it is by no means the only one under attack by the Left.

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 04:29 PM
I see nothing wrong with government taking a break from stealing more of our individual liberties.

Bo-4
05-01-2016, 04:43 PM
First, there really is no such thing as "settled law". There are laws that have previously been ruled on and most of the time, the courts will be hesitant to address them again, but with sufficient cause ANY law can be challenged.

Roe v Wade was a bad ruling and the ruling has been misapplied for many years.

The Constitution has built in it, a mechanism for change. There is nothing wrong with trying to change it. What is wrong and this is done far more often by the Left than it is the Right, is to ignore the provisions of the Constitution that you don't like. The Left is terrible about that. You don't like the Second Amendment? Just ignore it and push unconstitutional laws anyway. I mention the Second because your attacks on it are the most frequent and the most obvious, but it is by no means the only one under attack by the Left.

Wow ok ... See there you go again! ... The Pee Wee defense (I know you are but what am i?).

1) Why are your clowns challenging existing laws if we don't need NEW ones?

2) When you and your do-nothing proponents stress the need for doing nothing press the need to undo stuff you don't like - then WTF?

You appear to eschew new laws when you claim there is no need for such and profess love for your beloved Constitution yet want to change it.

Sorry man, don't get it.

Do-Nothing RW Constitutional Literalists: Endlessly Conflicted - Endlessly Confused & Endless Hypocrites.

domer76
05-01-2016, 04:49 PM
We have immigration laws. We just need to get the Executive to enforce them.



What about it?



You need to address most of that with the states, but I agree, there are some things they should be doing there, although they are probably not the things you want.



The only way to improve it is to repeal it.

We have immigration laws that need reform.
What about campaign finance reform? Are you a fucking idiot?
The states don't have funds for infrastructure.
It won't be repealed, so fix it. That's the problem with the intransigent idiots on the right. They can't organize a trip to the crapper, much less legislate.

For you do-nothing's, why even convene a session at all? Keep your representative at home and on vacation and still pay him. Because that's what you're doing now. Fools all.

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 04:50 PM
Other than stopping liberals from expanding the power and scope of government, what should the congress be doing?

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 04:55 PM
Crickets, any of you other cons care to take a stab?

Are you disturbed because no one Will respond to your stupidity?

Peter1469
05-01-2016, 05:03 PM
Crickets, any of you other cons care to take a stab?

The one issue on the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship. There is no SCOTUS case that holds that the child of illegals born in the US is a US citizen. The 14th Amendment simply is not applicable in such a case. I have discussed this in a couple of other threads with the leading SCOTUS case on point.

Peter1469
05-01-2016, 05:06 PM
First, there really is no such thing as "settled law". There are laws that have previously been ruled on and most of the time, the courts will be hesitant to address them again, but with sufficient cause ANY law can be challenged.

Roe v Wade was a bad ruling and the ruling has been misapplied for many years.

The Constitution has built in it, a mechanism for change. There is nothing wrong with trying to change it. What is wrong and this is done far more often by the Left than it is the Right, is to ignore the provisions of the Constitution that you don't like. The Left is terrible about that. You don't like the Second Amendment? Just ignore it and push unconstitutional laws anyway. I mention the Second because your attacks on it are the most frequent and the most obvious, but it is by no means the only one under attack by the Left.

Roe v Wade was based on the science of the day. There was no scientific answer on the question of when a life is present. Therefore the Court did not need to address the issue of homicide in the first trimester.

That is not the case today. If SCOTUS revisits Roe, the law on abortion will change.

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 05:10 PM
That's way over Bo-4's head.

domer76
05-01-2016, 05:19 PM
First, there really is no such thing as "settled law". There are laws that have previously been ruled on and most of the time, the courts will be hesitant to address them again, but with sufficient cause ANY law can be challenged.

Roe v Wade was a bad ruling and the ruling has been misapplied for many years.

The Constitution has built in it, a mechanism for change. There is nothing wrong with trying to change it. What is wrong and this is done far more often by the Left than it is the Right, is to ignore the provisions of the Constitution that you don't like. The Left is terrible about that. You don't like the Second Amendment? Just ignore it and push unconstitutional laws anyway. I mention the Second because your attacks on it are the most frequent and the most obvious, but it is by no means the only one under attack by the Left.

No need to abolish the 2nd. Heller left the door open by saying it was not without its limitations. Now, just "limitations" the shit out of it!

Peter1469
05-01-2016, 05:26 PM
No need to abolish the 2nd. Heller left the door open by saying it was not without its limitations. Now, just "limitations" the shit out of it!

All the limits will end up being tested at the Court.

I suspect the limits will be so far as ownership goes, the common arms of a light infantry soldier. No crew severed weapons or explosives.

There will be limits upheld on where you can carry concealed.

The most important factor has been decided: it is an individual right as opposed to a collective right.

That would have been odd, since the Constitution doesn't contain any other collective rights.

Peter1469
05-01-2016, 05:56 PM
We have immigration laws that need reform.
What about campaign finance reform? Are you a fucking idiot?
The states don't have funds for infrastructure.
It won't be repealed, so fix it. That's the problem with the intransigent idiots on the right. They can't organize a trip to the crapper, much less legislate.

For you do-nothing's, why even convene a session at all? Keep your representative at home and on vacation and still pay him. Because that's what you're doing now. Fools all.


Warning: learn to communicate without name calling. Repeated violation of the forum rules will lead to a ban.

domer76
05-01-2016, 05:58 PM
All the limits will end up being tested at the Court.

I suspect the limits will be so far as ownership goes, the common arms of a light infantry soldier. No crew severed weapons or explosives.

There will be limits upheld on where you can carry concealed.

The most important factor has been decided: it is an individual right as opposed to a collective right.

That would have been odd, since the Constitution doesn't contain any other collective rights.

We mostly agree. Because there are no other collective rights, doesn't mean there can't be one. The intent at the beginning was clear. Militia. But we have Heller and we live with it.

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 06:04 PM
If the intent was so clear, so many would be so unclear when interpreting it.

Peter1469
05-01-2016, 06:09 PM
We mostly agree. Because there are no other collective rights, doesn't mean there can't be one. The intent at the beginning was clear. Militia. But we have Heller and we live with it.

The laws relating to the militia were the same prior and after the adoption of the Constitution.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 07:26 PM
Wow ok ... See there you go again! ... The Pee Wee defense (I know you are but what am i?).

I am not even going to pretend to know what you are babbling about.


1) Why are your clowns challenging existing laws if we don't need NEW ones?

Who said anything about replacing existing bad laws with new ones? Some laws just don't need to be. Some laws are actually counterproductive. Those laws need to be repealed, not replaced.


2) When you and your do-nothing proponents stress the need for doing nothing press the need to undo stuff you don't like - then WTF?

Okay, wipe off your chin and try that again... this time in English.


You appear to eschew new laws when you claim there is no need for such and profess love for your beloved Constitution yet want to change it.

I haven't proposed changing the Constitution. I have said we need to abide by it. My personal feeling is that politicians or government officials of any type who try to circumvent it should be tarred and feathered, then hanged from a a lamp post and allowed to rot there until their bodies fall apart.


Sorry man, don't get it.

That is obvious, but don't worry... It is just one of many things you don't get.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 07:32 PM
No need to abolish the 2nd. Heller left the door open by saying it was not without its limitations. Now, just "limitations" the shit out of it!

If you knew anything about the Second, you would know there have always been limitations on it. Madison himself suggested that the right of the citizenry to keep and bear arms should be restricted to include classes of arms common to infantry forces, but should not exclude, what he referred to in the debates as "Naval cannon", meaning of course, artillery and similar devices.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 07:35 PM
We have immigration laws that need reform.

Which ones?


What about campaign finance reform?

What about it?


Are you a fucking idiot?

No, but the evidence indicates quite strongly that you are.


The states don't have funds for infrastructure.

Most do. They just choose to use those funds for other things.

domer76
05-01-2016, 09:38 PM
If the intent was so clear, so many would be so unclear when interpreting it.

Read for once

domer76
05-01-2016, 09:38 PM
The laws relating to the militia were the same prior and after the adoption of the Constitution.

Collective in nature

domer76
05-01-2016, 09:40 PM
If you knew anything about the Second, you would know there have always been limitations on it. Madison himself suggested that the right of the citizenry to keep and bear arms should be restricted to include classes of arms common to infantry forces, but should not exclude, what he referred to in the debates as "Naval cannon", meaning of course, artillery and similar devices.

No shit, Einstein. Now, go lecture your "shall not be infringed" moronic friends.

Tahuyaman
05-01-2016, 09:44 PM
Read for once

You're not very smart and that's being overly kind.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 09:48 PM
No shit, Einstein. Now, go lecture your "shall not be infringed" moronic friends.

The Second was never intended to include the right to own artillery, so prohibiting that is not an infringement of the Second Amendment. The object was to make sure the populace could arm itself to have parity with infantry forces. Those idiots who say "So, why can't you own a nuke or an F-18" are doing nothing but displaying their ignorance.

domer76
05-01-2016, 09:48 PM
Which ones?



What about it?



No, but the evidence indicates quite strongly that you are.



Most do. They just choose to use those funds for other things.

When did you suffer your traumatic brain injury?

Immigration reform? How about determining an avenue for legal status versus mass deportation and get a major part of our population from behind the shadows? Decide how kids brought here young are to be defined? Develop a plan for punishing those who hire illegals.

What about campaign finance? Obviously, you like the status quo. A minority of one, it appears.

Nope, you have exhibited an amazing inability to understand the simplest of concepts.

States have adequate funds for infrastructure? Are you fucking kidding?

Look up Osmium. Probably has a picture of you there.

domer76
05-01-2016, 09:49 PM
You're not very smart and that's being overly kind.

Funny little toad.

Read Heller (5-4), that is IF you can read, and get back to me.

Read a little about the context of the militia versus a standing army at the time of the Constitution. There are words with greater than 2 syllables, so it may take you awhile. Probably a translator with crayons.

domer76
05-01-2016, 09:50 PM
The Second was never intended to include the right to own artillery, so prohibiting that is not an infringement of the Second Amendment. The object was to make sure the populace could arm itself to have parity with infantry forces. Those idiots who say "So, why can't you own a nuke or an F-18" are doing nothing but displaying their ignorance.

I never made that argument, Jethro.

Cletus
05-01-2016, 10:10 PM
When did you suffer your traumatic brain injury?

Immigration reform? How about determining an avenue for legal status versus mass deportation and get a major part of our population from behind the shadows? Decide how kids brought here young are to be defined? Develop a plan for punishing those who hire illegals.

Deportation of illegals is what should happen. The laws don't need to be changed. They need to be enforced.


What about campaign finance? Obviously, you like the status quo. A minority of one, it appears.

I believe I have asked you twice what you wanted changed about campaign finance laws. If you don't know, just say so.


States have adequate funds for infrastructure? Are you fucking kidding?

No, I'm not. It isn't a shortage of money. It is how the money is spent.

zelmo1234
05-01-2016, 11:26 PM
Well there's a predictable response. Any post offices you'd like to rename "Reagan"?

Ok what is it that you would like them to accomplish.

What one of Obama's proposals do you think would make the biggest difference in the lives of the folks, if congress were to pass it this year.

domer76
05-02-2016, 01:31 AM
Deportation of illegals is what should happen. The laws don't need to be changed. They need to be enforced.



I believe I have asked you twice what you wanted changed about campaign finance laws. If you don't know, just say so.



No, I'm not. It isn't a shortage of money. It is how the money is spent.

Deportation of all illegals is a desperate delusion led by the ignorant Trump. An impossibility. That you buy into that illustrates your inability to recognize reality. Don't give me your "should" bullshit. Suggest something of substance.

Campaign finance reform? Why do you love the status quo?

How the money is spent by the states? Another ignorant response. Most are maxed out. What would you do? Decrease public education for bridges? Sacrifice law enforcement for a segment of highway? Obviously, you pay little attention to your own state's allocation process.

stjames1_53
05-02-2016, 05:01 AM
Deportation of all illegals is a desperate delusion led by the ignorant Trump. An impossibility. That you buy into that illustrates your inability to recognize reality. Don't give me your "should" bull$#@!. Suggest something of substance.

Campaign finance reform? Why do you love the status quo?

How the money is spent by the states? Another ignorant response. Most are maxed out. What would you do? Decrease public education for bridges? Sacrifice law enforcement for a segment of highway? Obviously, you pay little attention to your own state's allocation process.


Deportation of all illegals is a desperate delusion led by the ignorant Trump. An impossibility. That you buy into that illustrates your inability to recognize reality.

How so? I'd grab three of my guns, I know I have several neighbors, and we'd volunteer to help escort these POS right to the other side of the Rio. Naw, not impossible. Once the word got out they're taking the trail home. a lot of them would just get up and go back. Regardless, the American citizenry would lend a hand.
The government would get a lot of help rounding them up and deporting them.
Resist and get shot.........
The first rule is, if they cannot speak English, they go.
all of them get rounded up, and the first three hundred with the same SS, they become part of the Donald's Wall...............
Why is it you want illegal aliens in our country?

Peter1469
05-02-2016, 05:08 AM
Collective in nature

They did not create a collective right. The concept was alien to early Americans.

Bo-4
05-02-2016, 09:22 AM
Funny little toad.

Read Heller (5-4), that is IF you can read, and get back to me.

Read a little about the context of the militia versus a standing army at the time of the Constitution. There are words with greater than 2 syllables, so it may take you awhile. Probably a translator with crayons.

This home-skooled troll isn't worth the time of day ;-)

Cletus
05-02-2016, 09:26 AM
Deportation of all illegals is a desperate delusion led by the ignorant Trump. An impossibility. That you buy into that illustrates your inability to recognize reality. Don't give me your "should" bullshit. Suggest something of substance.

It is most certainly not an impossibility. It is very doable.


Campaign finance reform? Why do you love the status quo?

Okay, now I understand. You are one of those people who sits around crying "CHANGE IT!!", but when asked how you want it changed, your response is always the same... "CHANGE IT!!". I am going to ask you for a third and final time "HOW do you want it changed?"


How the money is spent by the states? Another ignorant response. Most are maxed out. What would you do? Decrease public education for bridges? Sacrifice law enforcement for a segment of highway? Obviously, you pay little attention to your own state's allocation process.

There isn't a state in the nation that doesn't waste millions upon millions of Dollars on bullshit.

Chris
05-02-2016, 09:35 AM
Funny little toad.

Read Heller (5-4), that is IF you can read, and get back to me.

Read a little about the context of the militia versus a standing army at the time of the Constitution. There are words with greater than 2 syllables, so it may take you awhile. Probably a translator with crayons.


When did you suffer your traumatic brain injury?

Immigration reform? How about determining an avenue for legal status versus mass deportation and get a major part of our population from behind the shadows? Decide how kids brought here young are to be defined? Develop a plan for punishing those who hire illegals.

What about campaign finance? Obviously, you like the status quo. A minority of one, it appears.

Nope, you have exhibited an amazing inability to understand the simplest of concepts.

States have adequate funds for infrastructure? Are you fucking kidding?

Look up Osmium. Probably has a picture of you there.


This home-skooled troll isn't worth the time of day ;-)


Stop the name calling and discuss topic or find one you can.

Cigar
05-02-2016, 09:39 AM
Congratulations, The GOP got exactly what they deserved :laugh:

Chris
05-02-2016, 09:44 AM
Congratulations, The GOP got exactly what they deserved :laugh:

What's that? They held the House and took the Senate.

Cigar
05-02-2016, 09:53 AM
What's that? They held the House and took the Senate.


We Know :laugh:

http://radio.foxnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/DOGCATCHESCAR.jpeg (http://radio.foxnews.com/2015/05/27/dog-catches-car-what-should-republicans-do-if-the-presidents-obamacare-amnesty-policies-collapse/)

Mac-7
05-02-2016, 10:00 AM
Deportation of all illegals is a desperate delusion led by the ignorant Trump. An impossibility.

Its not impossible to inforce the immigration laws.

its just not something liberals want to do

Bo-4
05-02-2016, 10:20 AM
Its not impossible to inforce the immigration laws.

its just not something liberals want to do

Do you believe it would be practical or possible to round up, provide due process to and deport 11 million or more illegals?

If yes, tell us how you would go about that, what that would cost and how long it would take in detail.

Thanks.

Quicksilver
05-02-2016, 10:53 AM
Do you believe it would be practical or possible to round up, provide due process to and deport 11 million or more illegals?

If yes, tell us how you would go about that, what that would cost and how long it would take in detail.

Thanks.

They are waiting for President Trump to TELL them how it would be done. Of course, they are going to have to elect him first BEFORE he tells them... just like everything else he proposes.

Bo-4
05-02-2016, 11:13 AM
They are waiting for President Trump to TELL them how it would be done. Of course, they are going to have to elect him first BEFORE he tells them... just like everything else he proposes.

Well, he can't tell them up front - same as he can't say how he'll crush ISIS "so fast believe me". ;)

stjames1_53
05-02-2016, 01:06 PM
Do you believe it would be practical or possible to round up, provide due process to and deport 11 million or more illegals?

If yes, tell us how you would go about that, what that would cost and how long it would take in detail.

Thanks.

last count was 21 million..and they can take their damned anchor babies with them

Truth Detector
05-02-2016, 01:08 PM
I am always fascinated by fools who think Congress should be there to "DO" things. Trust me, the LESS they "DO" the better off we the sheeple are.

Carry on.

Cigar
05-02-2016, 01:09 PM
I am always fascinated by fools who think Congress should be there to "DO" things. Trust me, the LESS they "DO" the better off we the sheeple are.

Carry on.


Then those same People shouldn't B!tch about Congress not getting things Done

Carry on

Truth Detector
05-02-2016, 01:11 PM
Then those same People shouldn't B!tch about Congress not getting thinks Done

Carry on

The only people whining and biotching about Congress not getting "thinks" done are the leftist do-nothings who think they are owed other people's wealth. :lmao:

Cigar
05-02-2016, 01:13 PM
The only people whining and biotching about Congress not getting "thinks" done are the leftist do-nothings who think they are owed other people's wealth. :lmao:


You got names are are you just saying all of "those" people.

Truth Detector
05-02-2016, 01:16 PM
You got names are are you just saying all of "those" people.

Yeah, right after you provide the list of names of people who "B!tch about Congress not getting things Done " :lol:

MisterVeritis
05-02-2016, 01:17 PM
The Second was never intended to include the right to own artillery, so prohibiting that is not an infringement of the Second Amendment. The object was to make sure the populace could arm itself to have parity with infantry forces. Those idiots who say "So, why can't you own a nuke or an F-18" are doing nothing but displaying their ignorance.
Militias were going to show up for duty with whatever arms they could bear. One does not bear artillery. Nor does one bear an aircraft. One bears individual weapons. Any weapon that can be borne is a legitimate weapon protected under the 2nd Amendment's intent.

MisterVeritis
05-02-2016, 01:20 PM
Collective in nature
How does one collectively bear a weapon?

zelmo1234
05-02-2016, 01:30 PM
Congratulations, The GOP got exactly what they deserved :laugh:

To you, the same Question. Which one of Obama's policies that the Republicans blocked do you feel would have made the biggest difference in the economy????

stjames1_53
05-02-2016, 01:34 PM
Collective in nature

I guess you missed that part wherein the first 5 Amendments were Individual Rights????? Protected from the government laws and actions......
collective is a communist term

zelmo1234
05-02-2016, 01:35 PM
well I see that the Democrats and Liberals are at a loss once again on what policies that the GOP are holding up that is keeping the economy down???

The reason for that is, Obama has been denied Nothing of any value, and thus you have the Trump Event

MisterVeritis
05-02-2016, 01:45 PM
Do you believe it would be practical or possible to round up, provide due process to and deport 11 million or more illegals?

If yes, tell us how you would go about that, what that would cost and how long it would take in detail.

Thanks.
I cannot imagine that you, or any other leftist, really cares about how illegals will be identified, detained and deported. Nor do the details matter. They can have their due process on the bus as they head for the nearest border.

stjames1_53
05-02-2016, 01:57 PM
Do you believe it would be practical or possible to round up, provide due process to and deport 11 million or more illegals?

If yes, tell us how you would go about that, what that would cost and how long it would take in detail.

Thanks.

what Due Process are you talking about? They are illegal aliens to begin with..............the only Due Process they are entitled to is a boot in the ass.............

Cigar
05-02-2016, 02:32 PM
to you, the same question. Which one of obama's policies that the republicans blocked do you feel would have made the biggest difference in the economy????


infrastructure

Mini Me
05-02-2016, 09:34 PM
Other than stopping liberals from expanding the power and scope of government, what should the congress be doing?

Try governing! For a change!

Obstruction, fillibusters, and blocking change is not governing!

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:44 PM
How so? I'd grab three of my guns, I know I have several neighbors, and we'd volunteer to help escort these POS right to the other side of the Rio. Naw, not impossible. Once the word got out they're taking the trail home. a lot of them would just get up and go back. Regardless, the American citizenry would lend a hand.
The government would get a lot of help rounding them up and deporting them.
Resist and get shot.........
The first rule is, if they cannot speak English, they go.
all of them get rounded up, and the first three hundred with the same SS, they become part of the Donald's Wall...............
Why is it you want illegal aliens in our country?

Too fucking many "woulds" to address. Get back to me when your mythical "would" becomes reality, Jethro.

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:50 PM
They did not create a collective right. The concept was alien to early Americans.

The 2nd was written in the context of the militia, a collective organization. For you to claim otherwise is bullshit. The morphing of the collective militia into a douchebag packing his surrogate penis on his hip 24/7 is a very recent development.

They didn't have their single shot muskets in the home for personal protection because it offered none. The towns, and well into the 19th century, forbade carrying and/or firing weapons within their limits.

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:51 PM
This home-skooled troll isn't worth the time of day ;-)

How does one skip home school? Mom boinking the mailman during recess?

hanger4
05-02-2016, 09:51 PM
infrastructure
Obama vetoed an infrastructure bill.

hanger4
05-02-2016, 09:53 PM
How does one skip home school? Mom boinking the mailman during recess?

You really are a POS.

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:54 PM
You really are a POS.

^Badge of honor

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:57 PM
It is most certainly not an impossibility. It is very doable.



Okay, now I understand. You are one of those people who sits around crying "CHANGE IT!!", but when asked how you want it changed, your response is always the same... "CHANGE IT!!". I am going to ask you for a third and final time "HOW do you want it changed?"



There isn't a state in the nation that doesn't waste millions upon millions of Dollars on bullshit.

(laughing) Doable? Fantasy land.

I would agree on spending bullshit. Idaho spent millions on trying to repeal the ACA and SSM. Also to pay damages from their privatized prison. (So much for capitalism, huh?) Bullshit with a capital B.

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:58 PM
Its not impossible to inforce the immigration laws.

its just not something liberals want to do

Conservatives came into office 15 months ago claiming they would kick ass. Nothing

domer76
05-02-2016, 09:59 PM
last count was 21 million..and they can take their damned anchor babies with them

Feckless non-answer

domer76
05-02-2016, 10:01 PM
The only people whining and biotching about Congress not getting "thinks" done are the leftist do-nothings who think they are owed other people's wealth. :lmao:

I don't need your "wealth". I'm comfortable on my own.

But, I will have fries with that order TD.

hanger4
05-02-2016, 10:01 PM
^Badge of honor

Why am I not surprised you would consider being a piece-of-shit a badge of honor.

domer76
05-02-2016, 10:03 PM
I guess you missed that part wherein the first 5 Amendments were Individual Rights????? Protected from the government laws and actions......
collective is a communist term

Was 4th grade a tough 3 years for you?

domer76
05-02-2016, 10:06 PM
Why am I not surprised you would consider being a piece-of-shit a badge of honor.

Once again, not even subtle nuance escapes you. Being called a POS by YOU is the badge. You sure are piling up the doop-de-doo lols tonight!

Common
05-02-2016, 10:08 PM
Well domer there must be people that believe you add alot of class and substance to the forum. Why do I think that? because you are still here.

hanger4
05-02-2016, 10:14 PM
Well domer there must be people that believe you add alot of class and substance to the forum. Why do I think that? because you are still here.

Sad actually

Tahuyaman
05-02-2016, 10:15 PM
Try governing! For a change!

Obstruction, fillibusters, and blocking change is not governing!


Does governing mean taking more of our freedoms away from us?

Instead of spouting cliches, tell me what they should do that they arent doing. Be specific.

What have they blocked which is critical for our survival?

Bo-4
05-03-2016, 09:25 AM
I am not even going to pretend to know what you are babbling about.

Congratulations - You just proved my point.


Who said anything about replacing existing bad laws with new ones? Some laws just don't need to be. Some laws are actually counterproductive. Those laws need to be repealed, not replaced.

Told ya, get rid of the laws YOU don't like.


I haven't proposed changing the Constitution. I have said we need to abide by it. My personal feeling is that politicians or government officials of any type who try to circumvent it should be tarred and feathered, then hanged from a a lamp post and allowed to rot there until their bodies fall apart.

Charming per usual ... But you should talk to these guys.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/slideshows/12-ways-republicans-want-to-change-the-constitution

Cletus
05-03-2016, 01:12 PM
Congratulations - You just proved my point.



Told ya, get rid of the laws YOU don't like.



Charming per usual ... But you should talk to these guys.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/slideshows/12-ways-republicans-want-to-change-the-constitution

Why?

I don't care any more about their opinion than I do yours.

domer76
05-03-2016, 02:11 PM
Well domer there must be people that believe you add alot of class and substance to the forum. Why do I think that? because you are still here.

Want to deny the truth of the OP? Fine. Go wandering around with blinders on.

hanger4
05-03-2016, 02:17 PM
Want to deny the truth of the OP? Fine. Go wandering around with blinders on.
Has nothing to do with the OP. Has everything to do with your vile mouth.

domer76
05-03-2016, 02:19 PM
Has nothing to do with the OP. Has everything to do with your vile mouth.

You poor virgin-eared girly boy. Put on the morherfucking filter if you don't like it, Nancy.

hanger4
05-03-2016, 02:26 PM
You poor virgin-eared girly boy. Put on the morherfucking filter if you don't like it, Nancy.
Thanks for making my point. :grin:

domer76
05-03-2016, 02:30 PM
Thanks for making my point. :grin:

That went over your head.

hanger4
05-03-2016, 02:36 PM
That went over your head.

Not all. You're a vile, foul mouthed child that can't carry on an adult conversation without resorting to insults and or foul language.

And most every post you make proves my point.

Common
05-03-2016, 02:47 PM
Not all. You're a vile, foul mouthed child that can't carry on an adult conversation without resorting to insults and or foul language.

And most every post you make proves my point.

Hes not the only one, I remember when they complained about the right here not being civil. Just read this forum now and pay attention to just WHO ISNT CIVIL its an eye opener

I will continue to talk to people here the way they talk to me , whether I disagree with them or not.

domer76
05-03-2016, 03:09 PM
Not all. You're a vile, foul mouthed child that can't carry on an adult conversation without resorting to insults and or foul language.

And most every post you make proves my point.

Well, spank my ass and call me Sally! I MIGHT lose all of one goddamn wink of sleep over that.

Here's the point, Jethro. When I see a truly adult conversation emerging, I'll participate as such. In the meantime, I'll continue to point out the nonsensical bullshit that emerges in almost every thread. And continue to goad the douchenozzles who post that crap. So, cowboy up, Nancy, or shut the fuck up. I ain't your fucking mommy here to protect you from the naughty ol' domers of the world.



Warning: stop with the foul language. You are heading for a temporary ban.

hanger4
05-03-2016, 03:15 PM
Well, spank my ass and call me Sally! I MIGHT lose all of one goddamn wink of sleep over that.

Here's the point, Jethro. When I see a truly adult conversation emerging, I'll participate as such. In the meantime, I'll continue to point out the nonsensical bullshit that emerges in almost every thread. And continue to goad the douchenozzles who post that crap. So, cowboy up, Nancy, or shut the fuck up. I ain't your fucking mommy here to protect you from the naughty ol' domers of the world.

And the beat goes on.

domer76
05-03-2016, 03:25 PM
And the beat goes on.

You're just a glutton for punishment today, aren't you sweetheart?

hanger4
05-03-2016, 03:53 PM
You're just a glutton for punishment today, aren't you sweetheart?
Your projection just makes you look childish.

With nearly every post you make you validate my description of you as vile and foul mouthed.

domer76
05-03-2016, 05:24 PM
Your projection just makes you look childish.

With nearly every post you make you validate my description of you as vile and foul mouthed.

Poo poo head

Bo-4
05-03-2016, 07:19 PM
Poo poo head

Pay little attention domer .. it's the Pee Wee syndrome personified.

IOW - i KNOW you are but what am i?

Their new schtick!

*Speaking of childish?

hanger4
05-03-2016, 07:39 PM
Pay little attention domer .. it's the Pee Wee syndrome personified.

IOW - i KNOW you are but what am i?

Their new schtick!

*Speaking of childish?

Pointing out vile, offensive and a foul mouthed poster is now a "schtick" ??

Nevermind Bo-4, I forgot, you've always enjoyed scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

domer76
05-03-2016, 09:27 PM
Pointing out vile, offensive and a foul mouthed poster is now a "schtick" ??

Nevermind Bo-4, I forgot, you've always enjoyed scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Oh for Chrissakes, Martha, grow a pair or turn the fucking filter on. Were you raised in a monastery? Vile? Hilarious! You've never been exposed to REAL profanity, have you? You certainly haven't seen it here.

Tahuyaman
05-03-2016, 09:46 PM
If Hillary Clinton is our next president, I hope the congress breaks a new record of doing nothing every year.

hanger4
05-04-2016, 06:29 AM
Oh for Chrissakes, Martha, grow a pair or turn the fucking filter on. Were you raised in a monastery? Vile? Hilarious! You've never been exposed to REAL profanity, have you? You certainly haven't seen it here.

I've worked in the construction trades all my life. Listen to trash mouths like you daily. Most don't make it personal, you do.

Vile fits you fine, you are 'extremely unpleasant'.

Not to mention you're just a forum mouth, a fake, a fraud. If you speak to people like that in the real world you'd be slapped a lot.

stjames1_53
05-04-2016, 06:40 AM
I've worked in the construction trades all my life. Listen to trash mouths like you daily. Most don't make it personal, you do.

Vile fits you fine, you are 'extremely unpleasant'.

Not to mention you're just a forum mouth, a fake, a fraud. If you speak to people like that in the real world you'd be slapped a lot.

It has been said that a person who curses a lot has a very limited vocabulary

hanger4
05-04-2016, 06:52 AM
It has been said that a person who curses a lot has a very limited vocabulary

This is true and on the www it's quite sad. On the net dictionaries and thesauruses are at your finger tips.

Tahuyaman
05-04-2016, 07:35 AM
I've worked in the construction trades all my life. Listen to trash mouths like you daily. Most don't make it personal, you do.

Vile fits you fine, you are 'extremely unpleasant'.

Not to mention you're just a forum mouth, a fake, a fraud. If you speak to people like that in the real world you'd be slapped a lot.


He's probably had his share of ass kickings. Of course, there's the chance that he's just a mouth here and a door knob in real life.

donttread
05-04-2016, 06:00 PM
Gettin' 'er done per usual eh? Why don't they just stay home and do nothing for half of what we pay them. I'll volunteer for that job!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-accomplishments-do-nothing_us_5723801ae4b01a5ebde56947


This is good news , congress is so much more dangerous when they act

domer76
05-04-2016, 06:32 PM
I've worked in the construction trades all my life. Listen to trash mouths like you daily. Most don't make it personal, you do.

Vile fits you fine, you are 'extremely unpleasant'.

Not to mention you're just a forum mouth, a fake, a fraud. If you speak to people like that in the real world you'd be slapped a lot.

Wow, you're a sheet rocker. I'm impressed!

I don't deal with as many douchebags, clueless fools and liars on a daily basis, either.

It just breaks my fucking heart that you find me unpleasant. I'll search high and low for a fuck to give you.

domer76
05-04-2016, 06:33 PM
It has been said that a person who curses a lot has a very limited vocabulary

"It has been said...." Monster response!

But you have that wrong. Scholarly articles say just the opposite. Those of us that use profanity are not only more intelligent but have a richer vocabulary. You are consistent, I must say. Consistently fucked up, but consistent nonetheless.

http://www.sciencealert.com/people-who-curse-a-lot-have-better-vocabularies-than-those-who-don-t-study-finds

domer76
05-04-2016, 06:34 PM
He's probably had his share of ass kickings. Of course, there's the chance that he's just a mouth here and a door knob in real life.

There's a chance you'll get something right on these threads. It hasn't happened yet, but there is the chance.

Tahuyaman
05-04-2016, 06:41 PM
There's a chance you'll get something right on these threads. It hasn't happened yet, but there is the chance.

Tall grass would give you nmore than you can handle.

domer76
05-04-2016, 06:51 PM
Tall grass would give you nmore than you can handle.

You have yet to meet that standard.

Tahuyaman
05-04-2016, 06:53 PM
You have yet to meet that standard.

Taking lessons from maineman?

hanger4
05-04-2016, 07:55 PM
Wow, you're a sheet rocker. I'm impressed!

I don't deal with as many douchebags, clueless fools and liars on a daily basis, either.

It just breaks my fucking heart that you find me unpleasant. I'll search high and low for a fuck to give you.

And again, you do no more than prove my points about you. LOL

domer76
05-04-2016, 07:56 PM
And again, you do no more than prove my points about you. LOL

Once again, you prove how easy it is to goad you and get under your skin. When did you have your testicles removed?

hanger4
05-04-2016, 08:00 PM
Once again, you prove how easy it is to goad you and get under your skin. When did you have your testicles removed?

Who's goading who :grin: I call you out as a vile and foul mouthed poster and you make my point over and over and over.

Quite amusing actually.

domer76
05-04-2016, 08:07 PM
Who's goading who :grin: I call you out as a vile and foul mouthed poster and you make my point over and over and over.

Quite amusing actually.

Vile, I tells ya'. Vileness! Poo poo mouth!

Who is goading who? You're the one all atwitter. Whining about naughty words. Larry Craig, the toe tapper from my state, also was all tied in a knot about naughtiness. You're not in his category, are you?

I'm still looking for that fuck to give you. In the meantime, Martha, work on extricating your tit from that wringer.

As a side note, sheet rock boy, is there a difference in quality?

stjames1_53
05-05-2016, 06:29 AM
"It has been said...." Monster response!

But you have that wrong. Scholarly articles say just the opposite. Those of us that use profanity are not only more intelligent but have a richer vocabulary. You are consistent, I must say. Consistently $#@!ed up, but consistent nonetheless.

http://www.sciencealert.com/people-who-curse-a-lot-have-better-vocabularies-than-those-who-don-t-study-finds

really......"....nothing but a cheap lying mother fucking butt-nugget with too much shit around the lips. a regular word whore"......... or "you're deranged"..............which one sounds better?
"deranged" is a smarter way to say the first