A case for Voting for Trump.

[zelmo1234]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?

[Peter1469]

Some good points.

[Mark III]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?

LOL. That's half asz logic if there ever was any.

[Peter1469]

lol

[Cthulhu]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?
The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

Replacing Drano with anti freeze isn't a step up, but sideways. Still toxic to imbibe.

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[gamewell45]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?

That's like voting either one of two rapists; one has raped 20 women and the other only 7, so you vote for the one who has lesser rapes; either way both are rapists. Would make more sense to vote for someone who hasn't raped anyone even if you write in your own name.

[Captain Obvious]

LOL. That's half asz logic if there ever was any.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LbOrHUhFITw/maxresdefault.jpg

[Dr. Who]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?
They might not vote for Bo Bo the Clown either. Making their voting non-choices as a requisite for your voting choice is not making a positive choice for a candidate, but rather a spiteful vote against history. Have you heard the expression - cutting off your nose to spite your face? Throughout history madmen have risen to power based on backlash.

[domer76]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?

Amazing! You base your vote on others' votes. You must buy products based on celebrity commercials.

[Captain Obvious]

lol

This is totally whooshing by many here.

[del]

lol

This is totally whooshing by many here.

many of us are not as fluent in retard as you seem to be.

frankly, it doesn't feel like much of a loss to me.

[Captain Obvious]

many of us are not as fluent in retard as you seem to be.

frankly, it doesn't feel like much of a loss to me.

I know it must be very confusing.

Fire up the lava lamp, everything will be ok.

[fureverywhere]

I mean Bernie is my dream date...but Trump could win...all the crackers still angry over McCain...never mind Trump dissing him in a big way. All those who have never gotten over an African American Male as president...yup Trump speaks for them.

[zelmo1234]

LOL. That's half asz logic if there ever was any.

When the alternative is a Person that protected her husbands practice of abusing women. Failed at everything she has ever tried, Used the Clinton Foundation to sell favors to foreign Countries, some not very friendly to the USA. and was so careless with Classified information that she got 4 Americans raped and murdered?

I find your criticism of my logic, amusing

[zelmo1234]

That's like voting either one of two rapists; one has raped 20 women and the other only 7, so you vote for the one who has lesser rapes; either way both are rapists. Would make more sense to vote for someone who hasn't raped anyone even if you write in your own name.

And if that would not elect the person that raped 20 people, I would agree.

You see a Trump win, destroys both the parties establishment elite, and actually returns a lot of the government power back to congress, where it belongs.

Because he is not liked by either party, this could be a great thing for the country.

[zelmo1234]

They might not vote for Bo Bo the Clown either. Making their voting non-choices as a requisite for your voting choice is not making a positive choice for a candidate, but rather a spiteful vote against history. Have you heard the expression - cutting off your nose to spite your face? Throughout history madmen have risen to power based on backlash.

So did Lincoln and Reagan, as well as FDR.

The truth is Trump is the safe choice for anyone that can actually think. The Clintons have already proven they are willing to sell out the USA. She was doing it through the Clinton foundation. They likely had the only witness in the White Water Scandal Murdered, and they lie more than they tell the truth.

Trump will be a president that will force the Congress to take back the power they have freely given to the executive branch. That is a good thing for the country.

And Trump will like grow the economy, while Hillary will continue with the same policies that have produced the stagnation.

So what is not to like, the federal government returns to what the founders intended, we reduce the deficit and the people are put back to work. I can live with that.

[zelmo1234]

lol

This is totally whooshing by many here.

Sarcasm is not their strong point. But in their defense, I find that most liberals are required to give up their sense of humor to get into the club.

[zelmo1234]

I mean Bernie is my dream date...but Trump could win...all the crackers still angry over McCain...never mind Trump dissing him in a big way. All those who have never gotten over an African American Male as president...yup Trump speaks for them.

So do you get paid for playing the race card????

Tell me do you think it is possible that people just did not like president Obama's policies????

And if not, do you not like Trump because he is White???

[Common]

zelmo, conservatives represent an agenda that most of america has rejected and will never again recieve as a majority. Conservatives need to get used to loss.

The reason is that conservative is synonomous with of the rich and for the rich at the expense of everyone else. Its synonomous with far right bat shit crazies Like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, the teaparty. The give tax cuts to the rich and subsidies but we cant afford anything else and must abolish social security because we cant afford it. It is the anti thesis to the progressive left nutcases.

I believe more and more americans are disgusted with both the conservative and the progressive agendas and are going to reject them. Thats why theres a trump and a trump that beat down every heavily funded favored conservative son. Scott Walker and Chris Christy the embodiment of screw the working class, took it right where their brains are and they deserved it. Rick Perry smashed and rejected All by REPUBLICANS, not democrats republicans.

Most republicans and democats are working class and they have been ignored by both parties

[FindersKeepers]

I know that there are a lot of Conservatives, including myself, that are not excited about voting for Donald Trump for President.

And let me be Clear, there is NO definition of Conservatism, that Trump would fit into. And there really is NO difference between Hillary and Trump.

So why vote for Trump?

John McCain - Will not be voting for Trump
GWB - Will not be voting for Trump
Bush the Elder - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitt Romney - Will not be voting for Trump
Mitch McConnell - Will not be voting for Trump
Lindsey Graham - will not be voting for Trump.
Paul Ryan - Will likely not be voting for Trump

So when I look at this list?????? I realize that these same people that do not approve of Mr. Trump, are exactly the same people that have been lying to Conservatives and are the RINO's that have ruined the GOP.

So if they hate Donald Trump????? How bad can he really be?


LOL

You make a good case there.

I'm not a Trump fan -- but he has ONE redeeming quality -- he knows business. He knows it inside and out. And, he's damn good at it. And this nation sorely needs a good CEO.

Trump is a fiscal conservative -- outside of that -- he's just a populist. He's not socially conservative, so religious folks need not look for support for him in that area.

If I had my druthers (but heck, who does? I mean, really?), I'd have chosen a whole different slew of GOP candidates, but that ship has sailed.

The GOP elites could still pull something -- but, they'd lose the party if they did -- so we're probably looking at Trump V Hillary.

What the democrats don't understand is that Trump IS the progressive candidate in this unlikely match-up. Not progressive as in socialist/Leftist, but progressive in the sense that his ideas are new/different -- Hillary is a repeat of the 90s, and, in fact, has been defending and re-promoting her husband's policies. Old stuff there.

[Peter1469]

When the alternative is a Person that protected her husbands practice of abusing women. Failed at everything she has ever tried, Used the Clinton Foundation to sell favors to foreign Countries, some not very friendly to the USA. and was so careless with Classified information that she got 4 Americans raped and murdered?

I find your criticism of my logic, amusing

She should have kept up with the cattle futures. She didn't fail at that. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm) :smiley:

[Bo-4]

Can't argue with that Z.

[domer76]

Can't argue with that Z.

You can't argue with tard

[MisterVeritis]

Sarcasm is not their strong point. But in their defense, I find that most liberals are required to give up their sense of humor to get into the club.
...plus nearly all of whatever intellectual horsepower they started with...

[domer76]

...plus nearly all of whatever intellectual horsepower they started with...

Right. No coincidence that Trump's major base is uneducated white people.

[Boris The Animal]

Zelmo's idea is clear. The country club Republican RINOs have lied to us one too many times. And if it take a Trump to force the GOP to LISTEN TO ITS VOTERS, then so be it!!

[Bo-4]

You can't argue with tard

Well, for non-establishment Republicans - zelmo has a point.

[MisterVeritis]

Right. No coincidence that Trump's major base is uneducated white people.
And still they have more intellectual horsepower than Democrats. In fact, when a middle-class blue collar worker, put out of a job by the Obama-Clinton de-industrialization policies, switches parties to vote for Trump, they also gain ten IQ points. Word on the street is that the men become more handsome and the women more desirable.

[domer76]

And still they have more intellectual horsepower than Democrats. In fact, when a middle-class blue collar worker, put out of a job by the Obama-Clinton de-industrialization policies, switches parties to vote for Trump, they also gain ten IQ points. Word on the street is that the men become more handsome and the women more desirable.

Word

[birddog]

Right. No coincidence that Trump's major base is uneducated white people.

Perhaps the base is white, but many of us are college educated. Poor thing, you are not overly bright!

[domer76]

Perhaps the base is white, but many of us are college educated. Poor thing, you are not overly bright!

You wasted your time and money.

[Mark III]

When the alternative is a Person that protected her husbands practice of abusing women. Failed at everything she has ever tried, Used the Clinton Foundation to sell favors to foreign Countries, some not very friendly to the USA. and was so careless with Classified information that she got 4 Americans raped and murdered?




I find your criticism of my logic, amusing

I see that facts have no impact on you.

[Dr. Who]

So did Lincoln and Reagan, as well as FDR.

The truth is Trump is the safe choice for anyone that can actually think. The Clintons have already proven they are willing to sell out the USA. She was doing it through the Clinton foundation. They likely had the only witness in the White Water Scandal Murdered, and they lie more than they tell the truth.

Trump will be a president that will force the Congress to take back the power they have freely given to the executive branch. That is a good thing for the country.

And Trump will like grow the economy, while Hillary will continue with the same policies that have produced the stagnation.

So what is not to like, the federal government returns to what the founders intended, we reduce the deficit and the people are put back to work. I can live with that.
There is a very good opportunity here for a third party candidate to win the election and break up the duopoly of the DNC and RNC.

[MisterVeritis]

many of us are not as fluent in retard as you seem to be.frankly, it doesn't feel like much of a loss to me.I would not sell yourself short, del. You seem pretty darned fluent in retard to me. I would guess it is your first natural environment.:-)

[MisterVeritis]

There is a very good opportunity here for a third party candidate to win the election and break up the duopoly of the DNC and RNC.In what country?

[Dr. Who]

In what country?
There are a great many people who like neither Clinton nor Trump. There may even be people who have supported Trump because they are sick of the status quo, so if a third party candidate with better credentials for President were running, who knows, people might take a chance.

[zelmo1234]

zelmo, conservatives represent an agenda that most of america has rejected and will never again recieve as a majority. Conservatives need to get used to loss.

The reason is that conservative is synonomous with of the rich and for the rich at the expense of everyone else. Its synonomous with far right bat $#@! crazies Like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, the teaparty. The give tax cuts to the rich and subsidies but we cant afford anything else and must abolish social security because we cant afford it. It is the anti thesis to the progressive left nutcases.

I believe more and more americans are disgusted with both the conservative and the progressive agendas and are going to reject them. Thats why theres a trump and a trump that beat down every heavily funded favored conservative son. Scott Walker and Chris Christy the embodiment of screw the working class, took it right where their brains are and they deserved it. Rick Perry smashed and rejected All by REPUBLICANS, not democrats republicans.

Most republicans and democats are working class and they have been ignored by both parties

Well you post is pure talking points that are totally and completely false but I am not worried about Conservative Values returning. The Country continues to be in decline

Like all liberals you tell people that Conservatives are for the rich, but under President Obama the Rich, including myself have done quite well, at the expense of the middle class and the poor, who are suffering needlessly.

And before you tell me that it is Congress, you need to post the legislation that was blocked by congress that would have helped.

As for SS I have posted Several times what a terrible program it is, not to mention that it is going broke. A private investment system would allow the lifetime minimum wage earner to retire in relative comfort, instead of dire poverty.

As for the conservative movement, while we did not get the WhiteHouse, it has never been better on the state level

[Peter1469]

There are a great many people who like neither Clinton nor Trump. There may even be people who have supported Trump because they are sick of the status quo, so if a third party candidate with better credentials for President were running, who knows, people might take a chance.

What non-establishment 3rd party figure has the name recognition to get at least 5% of the vote? The libertarian party perhaps. They have a party organization.

[Dr. Who]

What non-establishment 3rd party figure has the name recognition to get at least 5% of the vote? The libertarian party perhaps. They have a party organization.
I believe Gary Johnson considering making a run. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/06/ten-third-party-candidate-names-at-top-of-never-trumps-list-commentary.html

[birddog]

I see that facts have no impact on you.

Not being bright is why I refer to you libtards as "dims!" Otherwise, thank you very little!

Are you related to domer?:laughing5:

[domer76]

Not being bright is why I refer to you libtards as "dims!" Otherwise, thank you very little!

Are you related to domer?:laughing5:

On-line degrees don't count as college.

[Mac-7]

There is a very good opportunity here for a third party candidate to win the election and break up the duopoly of the DNC and RNC.

Trump is a third party candidate who did it the smart way by taking over one of the two existing parties.

[Quicksilver]

Yeah.... and I personally think he conned the base... What will happen if he is elected and there is NO wall.... NO ban of Muslims... NO mass deportations....????

[Mac-7]

Yeah.... and I personally think he conned the base... What will happen if he is elected and there is NO wall.... NO ban of Muslims... NO mass deportations....????

If he does nothing he will be a big flop

what happens if he accomplishes all or most of those three items?

[Ransom]

Yeah.... and I personally think he conned the base... What will happen if he is elected and there is NO wall.... NO ban of Muslims... NO mass deportations....????

Then they must sum the equation of good versus bad.

No wall. No ban. No mass deportations like the President today is doing.

- Quicksliver moving to Canada as promised along with Whoopi and the other loud mouth

= to the good.

I mean, no wall a toughy to handle...no ban will cause some frowns.....but hey...there's Two Men and a Truck at the Quicksilvers packing their Canada or bust sign......I say we're in the black there. Positive outcome, it's all about compromise right?

[birddog]

On-line degrees don't count as college.

I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised you do.

My three fully accredited degrees were earned in classrooms.:tongue:

[Mac-7]

I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised you do.

My three fully accredited degrees were earned in classrooms.:tongue:

Could the new robots that liberals are so excited about teach college too and put liberal professors on the unemployment line?

[domer76]

I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised you do.

My three fully accredited degrees were earned in classrooms.:tongue:

Wasted time and money.