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Cigar
09-21-2012, 01:18 PM
Ron Brownstein tells us today that Mitt Romney's problems aren't due to an incompetent campaign. They're due to decisions he made a long time ago: (http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/political-connections/mitt-romney-s-original-sin-20120920)

Of all Romney’s primary-season decisions, the most damaging was his choice to repel the challenges from Perry and Gingrich by attacking them from the right—and using immigration as his cudgel. That process led Romney to embrace a succession of edgy, conservative positions anathema to many Hispanics, including denouncing Texas for providing in-state tuition to the children of illegal immigrants; praising Arizona’s immigration-enforcement law; and, above all, promising to make life so difficult for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants that they would “self-deport.”

[bull-shit]

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In other words, the fundamentals predicted a fairly close election, which means that the candidate and the campaign really mattered this year. All that horserace stuff played a real role. But the tea party made it impossible to play that role smartly. They've moved so far outside the mainstream that they make demands on politicians that doom them in a general election.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/how-tea-party-killed-mitt-romney

That's the problem when you don't have your own stance

GrassrootsConservative
09-21-2012, 01:20 PM
Why don't you just wait til November 6th?

Mainecoons
09-21-2012, 01:23 PM
Such an unbiased source. Cigar, here's what the majority of Americans think about your sources:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157589/distrust-media-hits-new-high.aspx

Read it and weep. The only gullible left are you and your ilk.

roadmaster
09-21-2012, 02:04 PM
The tea-party had a good cause. We are being taxed way too much and not reaping the benefits. Keep our tax dollars here and stop giving it away.

Cigar
09-21-2012, 02:08 PM
The tea-party had a good cause. We are being taxed way too much and not reaping the benefits. Keep our tax dollars here and stop giving it away.

Are you Taxed more now than you were this time September 2008?

GrassrootsConservative
09-21-2012, 02:11 PM
Are you Taxed more now than you were this time September 2008?

Not yet, but there's a bill in place that will tax us more, doesn't help us at all since most people are losing jobs or giving up work. Taxes themselves aren't worse, but people's positions are worse overall.

Smartmouthwoman
09-21-2012, 02:16 PM
What a garbage piece. First off, Romney's not having 'problems' -- he's doing just fine, tyvm.

The article makes one big assumption that renders the whole thing BS:


But Romney’s decisions during the primaries also reflected a conspicuous lack of confidence that he could impose his will on his party. Instead, he serially accommodated himself to the cresting demands of a GOP base that emerged from the 2010 election excessively confident that the country was ready for the most conservative agenda since at least Reagan in 1980.

No such thing as 'excessively confident' since the election hasn't been held yet. From the signs I see, it's very likely we'll see a repeat shellacking of liberals in every level of govt again this Nov... just like we saw in 2010.

IOW, your reports of Romney's demise are seriously premature, Cigar. You should file this one under wishful thinking.

Cigar
09-21-2012, 02:17 PM
Not yet, but there's a bill in place that will tax us more, doesn't help us at all since most people are losing jobs or giving up work. Taxes themselves aren't worse, but people's positions are worse overall.

Will this be before or after he takes your Gus?

coolwalker
09-21-2012, 04:53 PM
Ron Brownstein appears to be rather liberal in his thinking and writing. Not exactly unbiased in his opinions.

Jack Fate
09-21-2012, 05:02 PM
Now that's some funny shit. Mother Jones is the organization that presented a tape with gaps on it as evidence of Romney slamming the 47%. Mother Jones is about as relevant as Keith Olbermann these days.