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Mark III
05-13-2016, 03:40 PM
Donald Trump on Friday denied that the voice of "John Miller" on a 25-year-old recording obtained by The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/2016/05/12/02ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html?asdfk&tid=a_inl) is, in fact, his own. Appearing on NBC's "Today" show, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee disputed a Post report that he posed as his own spokesman under a fake name during a 1991 telephone interview with a reporter — something he did habitually for years, often going as "John Barron" as well.


[The amazing story of Donald Trump’s old spokesman, John Barron — who was actually Donald Trump himself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/21/the-amazing-story-of-donald-trumps-old-spokesman-john-barron-who-was-actually-donald-trump-himself/)]




SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: The Post also says this is something you did rather routinely, that you would call reporters and plant stories and say either you were John Miller or John Barron, but in fact it was actually you on the phone. Is that something you did with any regularity?
TRUMP: No, and it was not me on the phone.


But that's not exactly what Trump said under oath in 1990. During testimony in a lawsuit that dealt with his employment of undocumented migrant workers from Poland on the Trump Tower project, the real estate mogul was asked if he had ever used the name "John Barron."


"I believe on occasion I used that name," Trump replied (though he would note he wasn't specifically asked whether he used the name with the press).


The liberal super PAC American Bridge posted a partial transcript of Trump's testimony Friday afternoon.



But this isn't really some newly unearthed secret. Journalists took note of Trump's admission at the time — probably because some of them had been hoodwinked at one point or another over the previous decade. In one instance, Trump fooled the New York Times throughout coverage of a controversial development project in 1980.


[Donald Trump hasn’t changed one bit since his first media feud in 1980 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/18/donald-trumps-first-media-controversy-is-a-really-great-story-just-a-really-fabulous-story/?postshare=5251458315517113&tid=ss_tw)]



Here's a sample of coverage from July 1990, when Trump acknowledged in court that he and "John Barron" (sometimes spelled "Baron") were one and the same.
Newsday




At one point, Trump, who spends millions of dollars advertising his name, acknowledged that he has used an alias, "John Baron." ...
A former Trump executive has acknowledged in court papers that he had used the same alias in connection with the Trump Tower project. An attorney representing the Polish workers has charged that someone using the name "John Baron" had called and said Trump might sue him for $100 million.


Trump testified he used the name only "years later." Afterward, he told reporters, "Lots of people use pen names. Ernest Hemingway used one."


New York Times

In earlier testimony to show the Trump organization knew about the undocumented workers, John Szabo, an immigration lawyer who represented them, said someone who said his name was Mr. Baron telephoned on behalf of the Trump organization in 1980 and threatened to sue him if he did not drop the workers' claims of back payments.
Mr. Trump acknowledged yesterday that he and one of his executives have used the name John Baron in some of their business dealings. He did not explain. And he was not asked about Mr. Szabo's allegation.


Toronto Star

Donald Trump, who likes to put his name on hotels, apartment buildings, planes and lots of other things, says he has sometimes discarded it for an alias. Would you believe John Baron?




During one line of inquiry, Trump acknowledged that he "on occasion" had used the pen name "John Barron," but U.S. District Judge Charles Stewart stopped Sloan from asking more questions on the subject.
Being outed as "John Barron" in 1990 could explain why Trump went as "John Miller" in the 1991 interview recorded by a People magazine reporter. On the tape, "Miller" can be heard telling writer Sue Carswell, "I'm sort of new here." Perhaps what he meant was that Trump's original cover had recently been blown; he needed a new alter ego.


Over the course of the presidential race, several journalists — including this one — have already revisited Trump's admitted use of an assumed name. It's well-established that this is a thing he did.


So why deny it on Friday? Who knows. Maybe a campaign spokesman can explain it to us.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/13/trump-claims-he-didnt-regularly-use-an-fake-name-thats-not-what-he-said-under-oath/

Mark III
05-13-2016, 03:41 PM
He lies about something that he had previously admitted under oath. This guy is going to crack up.

FindersKeepers
05-13-2016, 03:49 PM
He lies about something that he had previously admitted under oath. This guy is going to crack up.


Somebody's cracking up -- that's for sure.

Somebody is so obsessed that all he can do is post "hate Trump" threads, ad nauseum. You tricked me again. I thought this one might actually be something worth reading, but...nope.

Mark III
05-13-2016, 03:50 PM
Somebody's cracking up -- that's for sure.

Somebody is so obsessed that all he can do is post "hate Trump" threads, ad nauseum. You tricked me again. I thought this one might actually be something worth reading, but...nope.

I am trying to save you from the eternal shame of voting for this person.

FindersKeepers
05-13-2016, 03:55 PM
I am trying to save you from the eternal shame of voting for this person.


Well, I thank you for your effort. I'll certainly take it under consideration.

Cigar
05-16-2016, 07:20 AM
Yet the Right will never claim he's The Liar :laugh:

PolWatch
05-16-2016, 07:26 AM
A quick count of today's top threads shows 4 'hate Clinton' threads to 1 'hate Trump' thread. Mud slinging is an equal opportunity employer.

Cigar
05-16-2016, 07:38 AM
A quick count of today's top threads shows 4 'hate Clinton' threads to 1 'hate Trump' thread. Mud slinging is an equal opportunity employer.


I don't Hate Trump ... I'm glad he's went to The Republicans side and played them all for idiots :laugh:

PolWatch
05-16-2016, 07:44 AM
I don't Hate Trump ... I'm glad he's when to The Republicans side and played them all for idiots :laugh:

I think (hope) the voter dislike of both dem & repub candidates will have a positive outcome. This election cycle has made it very clear that the major parties are NOT representing the concerns of the average voter. Just like in construction, you have to demolish the old buildings before you can clear the lot and start on new construction.

Cigar
05-16-2016, 07:47 AM
I think (hope) the voter dislike of both dem & repub candidates will have a positive outcome. This election cycle has made it very clear that the major parties are NOT representing the concerns of the average voter. Just like in construction, you have to demolish the old buildings before you can clear the lot and start on new construction.


We'll still have the same Do-Nothing Congress and Senate :wink:

PolWatch
05-16-2016, 08:00 AM
We'll still have the same Do-Nothing Congress and Senate :wink:

True, but that is what will protect us from idiots in the Oval Office. I don't think either of the major party candidates will see much/any cooperation after election.

Cigar
05-16-2016, 08:04 AM
True, but that is what will protect us from idiots in the Oval Office. I don't think either of the major party candidates will see much/any cooperation after election.


Wait ... isn't the Right Angry :laugh: ... and don't they call Obama an Idiot :grin:

Tahuyaman
05-16-2016, 11:10 AM
He lies about something that he had previously admitted under oath. This guy is going to crack up.

I always get a chuckle out of your ability to be so selective about your criticisms of presidential candidates who are less than truthful.