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Common
05-19-2016, 02:58 PM
One month ago the same poll had hillary 8 points ahead of Trump,

So much for the all the pundits and experts who said Donald Trump wouldn't stand a chance in the general election.

Trump would narrowly defeat Hillary Clinton 45-42%, according to a new national poll released by Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html) Wednesday. The three-point lead is within the survey's margin of error.
The poll shows Trump with the edge despite a 14-point deficit among women. Clinton would win among women 50-36%, but Trump would win by a wider, 55-33% margin among men.
Clinton is also behind in the poll despite a whopping 90-7% lead among blacks and a 62-23% lead among Hispanics. Trump makes up the difference thanks to a 55-31% lead among whites, including a 9-point lead among white women.
Trump also leads by 16 points among independents, according to the poll.


All that said, voters are far from in love with either candidate. "Overall, the voters feel the candidates lack honesty, empathy, and strong moral values, and they'll say anything to win," Fox reports. Ouch.
For example, 66% of the respondents said Clinton is not honest while 57% felt the same way about Trump. Another 57% think Clinton does not have strong moral values and 58% said that about Trump.
The poll was based on telephone interviews with 1,021 random people nationwide and has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.
Clinton led Trump 48-41% in the same poll a month ago, Fox reported.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/18/trump-pulls-ahead-clinton-new-national-poll/84567376/

Private Pickle
05-19-2016, 03:00 PM
Dupe thread.

Bo-4
05-19-2016, 03:03 PM
That's why the DNC needs to stop acting stupid and go with Bernie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

The Xl
05-19-2016, 03:04 PM
Not surprising to anyone paying attention. She's done as soon as they hit the debate floor.

Private Pickle
05-19-2016, 03:05 PM
That's why the DNC needs to stop acting stupid and go with Bernie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Clinton is right. The DNC promised both the Sec of State and the general nomination back in 2008 for her backing of Obama. This was all decided 8 years ago...

The Xl
05-19-2016, 03:06 PM
That's why the DNC needs to stop acting stupid and go with Bernie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Two populists with different ideas, not bought and paid for like cheap prostitutes. That would be refreshing.

Common
05-19-2016, 03:18 PM
That's why the DNC needs to stop acting stupid and go with Bernie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

Bernies dead unfortunately he never had a chance. Bernie is far more honest than clinton ever was

Common
05-19-2016, 03:19 PM
Two populists with different ideas, not bought and paid for like cheap prostitutes. That would be refreshing.

True but Sanders is far more honest than Hillary

Rebel Son
05-19-2016, 03:55 PM
Trump will wipe the floor with Hillary and all her baggage. It will be a free for all but she ain't got the balls to hang with Trump. I think Bernie and his socialist views have a better chance, never happen since the super delegates have all collected up Hillary's a hole.

Mark III
05-19-2016, 04:09 PM
Trump hasn't got a clue about what is going to hit him.

The only thing that can save Trump is if the media refuses to do it's job and continues to treat him with kid gloves.

Experts and regular people alike regularly and repeatedly refer to him as a sociopath and mentally disturbed habitual liar, fraud and cheat. No candidate in the history of the country has been described this way, and we are just getting started.

It really all depends on whether the media has any self-respect.

del
05-19-2016, 04:18 PM
Trump hasn't got a clue about what is going to hit him.

The only thing that can save Trump is if the media refuses to do it's job and continues to treat him with kid gloves.

Experts and regular people alike regularly and repeatedly refer to him as a sociopath and mentally disturbed habitual liar, fraud and cheat. No candidate in the history of the country has been described this way, and we are just getting started.

It really all depends on whether the media has any self-respect.

so there really is no difference between him and hillary

good to know

Peter1469
05-19-2016, 04:27 PM
Trump hasn't got a clue about what is going to hit him.

The only thing that can save Trump is if the media refuses to do it's job and continues to treat him with kid gloves.

Experts and regular people alike regularly and repeatedly refer to him as a sociopath and mentally disturbed habitual liar, fraud and cheat. No candidate in the history of the country has been described this way, and we are just getting started.

It really all depends on whether the media has any self-respect.

The media hammers him. It just doesn't matter. Most people have realized that the media is corrupt. Mere typists for the DNC.

Ethereal
05-19-2016, 04:30 PM
Trump is pushing populism and nationalism.

Clinton is pushing whatever she thinks will get her elected.

It remains to be seen what the American electorate is more interested in.

Mac-7
05-19-2016, 04:56 PM
Trump hasn't got a clue about what is going to hit him.

The only thing that can save Trump is if the media refuses to do it's job and continues to treat him with kid gloves.

Experts and regular people alike regularly and repeatedly refer to him as a sociopath and mentally disturbed habitual liar, fraud and cheat. No candidate in the history of the country has been described this way, and we are just getting started.

It really all depends on whether the media has any self-respect.

The wacko liberal/progressive/socialist media has no power over trump.

they can make garden variety republican politicians curl up in the corner and suck their thumb.

But not trump

He takes the microphone away from liberal journalism airheads and crams it up their ass.

Rebel Son
05-19-2016, 04:56 PM
People are tired of the Obummer era, like I said. Trump will wipe the floor with her and those ugly ass pant suits that went out of style in 1964.

OGIS
05-19-2016, 05:24 PM
Experts and regular people alike regularly and repeatedly refer to him as a sociopath and mentally disturbed habitual liar, fraud and cheat. No candidate in the history of the country has been described this way, and we are just getting started.

Not in those exact words, But neither has Trump or Hillary (yet) been called a cannibal. Enjoy:

And oh yeah, is Trump the new Andrew Jackson (2nd para of 1st quote)?



1832 National Republicans say incumbent Andrew Jackson took for himself "a power no Monarch in Europe dared attempt," "the most absolute despot now at the head of any representative government on earth" who exercised "indiscriminate removal of public officers, for the mere difference of political opinion."

In the 1828 race, John Quincy Adams supporters call Andrew Jackson a slave-trading, gambling, brawling murderer.

Whigs senselessly call 1848 presidential hopeful Lewis Cass a "pot-bellied, mutton-headed cucumber" in response to Democrats' accusations that opposing candidate Zachary Taylor is, among other things, a crappy dresser.

Whigs "prove" that James K. Polk was a slave trader in 1844—by quoting extensively a completely fake excerpt from a book.

1844 Democrats backing James K. Polk claim that Henry Clay had sex with whores and, furthermore, broke all 10 of the commandments; in lieu of evidence, they declare simply that the details are "too disgusting to appear in public print."

1828, again: Jackson supporters accuse Adams of having premarital sex with his wife and being a pimp, claiming he arranged an American hooker for Czar Alexander I.

1800 Federalists claim Republican candidate Thomas Jefferson is dead.

And the 1828 race, again, takes it: Adams supporters attack Jackson's family, calling his dead mother "a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers," after whose service she "married a MULATTO MAN, with whom she had several children of which number General JACKSON IS ONE!!!" Jackson's wife, who was previously married and (accidentally) not completely divorced prior to her second marriage, they call a "convicted adulteress."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2008/10/ten-most-awesome-presidential-mudslinging-moves-ever


Things would get even more heated in 1828, and once again an Adams (and Philadelphia) would be in the middle of it. This time it was John Quincy running for president against Andrew Jackson. One of Adams’s supporters, a Philadelphia printer named John Binns, produced a variety of handbills, known as the Coffin Handbills, which showed six black coffins and accused Jackson of ordering the execution of six of his soldiers for desertion in the War of 1812. Essentially, the Adams supporters were trying to defeat Jackson by taking his strength (national war hero) and making it a weakness. (And you thought “Swift Boating” was a new phenomenon.)

It gets better. One of the handbills also accused Jackson of being a cannibal, that after massacring over 500 Indians one evening, “the blood thirsty Jackson began again to show his cannibal propensities, by ordering his Bowman to dress a dozen of these Indian bodies for his breakfast, which he devoured without leaving even a fragment.” And you thought calling Obama a Muslim was beyond the pale.

Political mudslinging advanced in the 20th century with that advent of TV, which allowed candidates to scare the living shit out of the electorate with ads such as the famous Daisy ad, which essentially said, “If you elect Barry Goldwater, the Soviets will drop a nuclear bomb on your child.” It was really a high water mark in public discourse.

So when you hear the usual handwringing about politics and civility, just remember: Neither candidate’s followers have accused the other of being a cannibal whose mother is a British prostitute.

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/10/24/presidential-campaign-dirty-politics-mudslinging/

Rebel Son
05-19-2016, 06:38 PM
Andrew Jackson, the only president to eliminate the debt. How is your president doing with that?

zelmo1234
05-19-2016, 06:42 PM
Trump hasn't got a clue about what is going to hit him.

The only thing that can save Trump is if the media refuses to do it's job and continues to treat him with kid gloves.

Experts and regular people alike regularly and repeatedly refer to him as a sociopath and mentally disturbed habitual liar, fraud and cheat. No candidate in the history of the country has been described this way, and we are just getting started.

It really all depends on whether the media has any self-respect.

This is what is fascinating to me. If Trump is all of those things, then certainly Hillary fits the bill as well.

So What now?

exotix
05-19-2016, 06:43 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2u7q98i.gif


Trump tops Clinton

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html


http://i66.tinypic.com/2i737t2.jpg

Kurmugeon
05-19-2016, 07:15 PM
Not surprising to anyone paying attention. She's done as soon as they hit the debate floor.

In an honest election, yes.

Illegal Immigrants who vote, do NOT vote just once!

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Ransom
05-19-2016, 07:23 PM
People are tired of the Obummer era, like I said. Trump will wipe the floor with her and those ugly ass pant suits that went out of style in 1964.

Are enough people tired?

Rebel Son
05-19-2016, 07:29 PM
Are enough people tired?

I hope so, I am. Of both parties.

Kurmugeon
05-19-2016, 07:32 PM
I hope so, I am. Of both parties.

We do NOT have two separate opposing political parties, and have not had so for over forty years!

We have an Establishment Duopoly which serves itself, and not the American People.

And we have a few brave and dedicated rebels and independents, who have stood out against the status quo and the Establishment, and they always get destroyed, because We, the common American people, are too foolish to get behind those who oppose the Establishment, to overturn their Identity Politics peddling cart!

I blame the Left, because the LEFTIES are Driving that cart!

The RINOs, the shill placeholders who are claiming to be the "Opposition" but in reality just maintain the status quo, by rubber stamping the Leftie agenda, are FOLLOWING the orders of the Lefties!

Make no mistake, what we have in the Duopoly is Saul Alinsky Politics refined to an ARTFORM with the Lefties in Control!

The vast bulk of the Republican Party are just Shill RINO extensions of the Democratic Party!

We do NOT have two parties, we have ONE party, with a fake Opposition Party!

And a few Political Mavericks!

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OGIS
05-19-2016, 08:42 PM
Andrew Jackson, the only president to eliminate the debt. How is your president doing with that?

who you talkin to slick?

OGIS
05-19-2016, 08:45 PM
In an honest election, yes.

Illegal Immigrants who vote, do NOT vote just once!

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Oh just stop. Please, for the love of God, just stop repeating that mindless meme.

Or show some farking evidence (and more that just onezies and twozies) of multiple voting.

OGIS
05-19-2016, 08:46 PM
We do NOT have two separate opposing political parties, and have not had so for over forty years!

We have an Establishment Duopoly which serves itself, and not the American People.

And we have a few brave and dedicated rebels and independents, who have stood out against the status quo and the Establishment, and they always get destroyed, because We, the common American people, are too foolish to get behind those who oppose the Establishment, to overturn their Identity Politics peddling cart!

I blame the Left, because the LEFTIES are Driving that cart!

The RINOs, the shill placeholders who are claiming to be the "Opposition" but in reality just maintain the status quo, by rubber stamping the Leftie agenda, are FOLLOWING the orders of the Lefties!

Make no mistake, what we have in the Duopoly is Saul Alinsky Politics refined to an ARTFORM with the Lefties in Control!

The vast bulk of the Republican Party are just Shill RINO extensions of the Democratic Party!

We do NOT have two parties, we have ONE party, with a fake Opposition Party!

And a few Political Mavericks!

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I see you have learned your lessons well.

del
05-19-2016, 08:52 PM
who you talkin to slick?

millard fillmore

decedent
05-19-2016, 10:33 PM
That's why the DNC needs to stop acting stupid and go with Bernie.


Besides, Bill would be an ugly First Lady.

Common
05-20-2016, 12:14 AM
Besides, Bill would be an ugly First Lady.

Monica will stand in for him