For the Record: 45% Trump, 45% Clinton, 47% 'we hate you both

[Common]

Another week begins with more polls showing how tight the race is (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/22/polls-show-trump-and-clinton-dead-heat/84741946/) between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and how disliked they are overall. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll has Hillary out front, 46-43%, while an ABC-Washington Post poll has Trump leading, 46-44%; both polls show respondents with negative views of both candidates exceeding 55%. Similar to other recent polls, Bernie Sanders fares better against Trump than Clinton does. The NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll showed that 47% of respondents would be taking a long look at independent or third-party candidates if the race comes down to Clinton and Trump.
The criticism that they share is that they both seem to want the job, which is nearly unforgivable in a nation that regularly tells pollsters it would rather be governed by names selected out of a phone book (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ted-wachtel/2-lets-choose-legislators_b_9931902.html) than actual politicians. That's why everyone was so enamored of Paul Ryan there for a bit, until it looked like he actually wanted the job, at which point we lost all interest. Ultimately, we want to elect a modern-day Cincinnatus (http://www.britannica.com/biography/Lucius-Quinctius-Cincinnatus) as president — tackle the big problems, then hand back the power at first opportunity. Oh, and it would be nice if the candidate would release the transcripts of speeches to the money lenders, and didn't always tell us how fat and ugly the Vestal Virgins are.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/23/record-45-trump-45-clinton-47-we-hate-you-both/84765286/

[Cigar]

Write Me in, and Free Golf for Everyone :grin:

[Ransom]

so...he media runs negative negative negative, mocks both candidates, runs negative stories, brings talking head after moron up to bust out the carving knives, Trumps taxes, Hillary's emails.....

and the polls run negative for both candidates. Go figure.

I'm taking a week and 1/2 off. Might check in to fire artillery but......perspective is often needed and can be found in a fly rod.

Black flies thick. Fish hoppin. No Service on my phone. Far from the sheep here on tpf, no wireless! :Skeert:

Few humans. Always stay in view of one another, but for the most part......it's me, myself, and my .40 Caliber strapped to my back.

Horse country. No roads. Much of it Indian Reservation. Can't figure out why the wife don't want to go.....hmm.

Oh well.....saves me the shave or shower.....don't like deodorants out there anyway, just makes you sweeter...better tasting.

[zelmo1234]

Write Me in, and Free Golf for Everyone :grin:

Better get Trump to build more golf courses. Or the lines are going to be a bitch

[Tahuyaman]

If either candidate was smart, they would now decide to run a completely positive campaign. No negative attacks upon the other candidate. They would follow the Reagan example.

People would be attracted to a candidate who tells them how he or she will improve the poor economic conditions we have been enduring for the last eight or nine years and how they would correct the foreign policy blunders. Neither Trump or Hillary will be able to do that. Their ego is so overpowering that they always need to respond to the negative. They can't let stuff roll off.

[suds00]

i'm comfortable leaving that part of the ballot blank.vote for the others