Elizabeth Warren Ramps Up Attacks on ‘Insecure Money-Grubber’ Donald Trump

[Mark III]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Mrfu4yE-w

The Massachusetts senator went beyond her usual Twitter rants and dedicated a speech to stopping Trump Sen. Elizabeth Warren went on a tirade (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/warren-attacks-trump-223541) Tuesday against Donald Trump, whom she called a “small, insecure money-grubber.” The Massachusetts senator went beyond her usual attacks on the presumptive Republican presidential nominee on Twitter (http://time.com/4266213/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-twitter/) and dedicated a speech at a Washington, D.C. gala hosted by the Center for Popular Democracy to uniting her party against Trump, according to Politico. “He inherited a fortune from his father, and kept it going by scamming people, declaring bankruptcy and skipping out on what he owed,” Warren told the audience. http://time.com/4347558/elizabeth-warren-attacks-donald-trump

[Mark III]

It is going to be a lot of fun watching her dismantle Donald Trump over the next five and a half months.

[Quicksilver]

She is going to keep it up right until the election. She will be able to do more damage to Trump than Clinton can.. at least for right now. Warren is in a safe senate seat, and will be able remain the Massachusetts senator for as long as she wants to be. Trump can not touch her or cause her damage.. She has nothing to lose and will hammer Trump relentlessly and there isn't a damn thing he can do about it.

[PolWatch]

There could be a problem with Warren using Trump's bankruptcies as a topic. Elizabeth Warren first gained attention for her work to fight the tightening of bankruptcy laws. She is now in the position of chastising Trump for taking advantage of the system she fought to keep. I think her emphasis was personal bankruptcy but that difference might be more than most voters notice.

[exotix]

Trump came back with some usual pathetic name-calling ... acting all butthurt ... he's losing it ... LOL

[FindersKeepers]

She is going to keep it up right until the election. She will be able to do more damage to Trump than Clinton can.. at least for right now. Warren is in a safe senate seat, and will be able remain the Massachusetts senator for as long as she wants to be. Trump can not touch her or cause her damage.. She has nothing to lose and will hammer Trump relentlessly and there isn't a damn thing he can do about it.



Warren already discredited herself with her lies of being an Indian. She won't be able to shake Trump's nickname for her -- Pocahontas.

The more she goes after Trump -- the more he'll return the favor.

Pocahontas. LOL

[Chris]

Heard her speak on CNN. She sounds awful whiney. Blasting Trump is so hard.

[The Sage of Main Street]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Mrfu4yE-w

The Massachusetts senator went beyond her usual Twitter rants and dedicated a speech to stopping Trump Sen. Elizabeth Warren went on a tirade (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/warren-attacks-trump-223541) Tuesday against Donald Trump, whom she called a “small, insecure money-grubber.” The Massachusetts senator went beyond her usual attacks on the presumptive Republican presidential nominee on Twitter (http://time.com/4266213/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-twitter/) and dedicated a speech at a Washington, D.C. gala hosted by the Center for Popular Democracy to uniting her party against Trump, according to Politico. “He inherited a fortune from his father, and kept it going by scamming people, declaring bankruptcy and skipping out on what he owed,” Warren told the audience. http://time.com/4347558/elizabeth-warren-attacks-donald-trump


Eyes shifting, head bobbing, voice cracking, oozing insincerity, Warren demonstrates nothing else than her guilt over letting Shillary drag the formerly democratic party down the drain.

[Quicksilver]

Hahahahahahaha... The best part is that NO ONE... can hurt her.... Warren will continue with the unrelenting Trump attacks... shrug off anything he can dish out.. and sit secure in her senate seat as long as she wants it. All you can do is hurl baseless insults and whine.

[Chris]

Hahahahahahaha... The best part is that NO ONE... can hurt her.... Warren will continue with the unrelenting Trump attacks... shrug off anything he can dish out.. and sit secure in her senate seat as long as she wants it. All you can do is hurl baseless insults and whine.

Problem is it helps him. As some were discussing recently, he's a troll. Attacking him gives him attention, gets his name in the news, delights his supporters.

[Quicksilver]

So I guess everyone should just let Trump say whatever baseless lie that comes to his mind with no one fighting back? I think not.. Perhaps it might hurt Clinton... but it's not going to hurt Warren. She is the perfect surrogate

[Common]

I respect Warren for standing up to Wall Street and the working class, cannot take that from her. Her railing on trump is meaningless, when shes already tore hillary to shreds before the campaign and ignored her all the primary.

[del]

Hahahahahahaha... The best part is that NO ONE... can hurt her.... Warren will continue with the unrelenting Trump attacks... shrug off anything he can dish out.. and sit secure in her senate seat as long as she wants it. All you can do is hurl baseless insults and whine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHHrI47oE30

[Mac-7]

According to government records Elizabeth Warren was a house flipper.

which makes her just as greedy as she accuses donald trump of being

http://www.mhmarketingsalesmanagement.com/blogs/daily-business-news/senator-elizabeth-warren-flipped-houses/

[Mark III]

Warren already discredited herself with her lies of being an Indian. She won't be able to shake Trump's nickname for her -- Pocahontas.

The more she goes after Trump -- the more he'll return the favor.

Pocahontas. LOL

Is that really all you have? rofl

Not that I am surprised.

[Chris]

I respect Warren for standing up to Wall Street and the working class, cannot take that from her. Her railing on trump is meaningless, when shes already tore hillary to shreds before the campaign and ignored her all the primary.

Look up her support for the Import/Export bank.

[Cigar]

Flipping Houses is not equal to Hoping that America, it's Economy and your Follow Citizens Fail.

Not nice try in an attempt to draw a parallel ...

[exotix]

What's your point ? ... that was in the '90's ...



According to housingwire, the Oklahoma County Property Assessor records indicate leading progressive Democrat Elizabeth Warren allegedly took advantage of a housing market transaction that many do and have done, and one she purportedly condemns—flipping houses.

She purchased a home for $30,000 in Oklahoma City in he early 1990s, and five months later sold it for a $115,000 profit.

[Mac-7]

Flipping Houses is not equal to Hoping that America, it's Economy and your Follow Citizens Fail.

Not nice try in an attempt to draw a parallel ...

Sure it is.

She did the same thing trump was talking about doing and for the same reason.

to make money.

[Cigar]

What's your point ? ... that was in the '90's ...


They always Walk right into those ... :laugh:

[exotix]

Flipping Houses is not equal to Hoping that America, it's Economy and your Follow Citizens Fail.

Not nice try in an attempt to draw a parallel ...Talk about desperation ... LOL

[Mark III]

As soon as the word "Pochohantas" comes out of one of their mouths, we can safely assume that something really stupid will soon follow. It is a tell.

[Mac-7]

What's your point ? ... that was in the '90's ...

It makes no difference what year it was

[Cigar]

Sure it is.

She did the same thing trump was talking about doing and for the same reason.

to make money.


Think ... What did Donald Trump "SAY" ... :rollseyes:

No one is talking about what he did, it's what he Said!

[Mac-7]

As soon as the word "Pochohantas" comes out of one of their mouths, we can safely assume that something really stupid will soon follow. It is a tell.

shes a stupid woman.

There is no reason to show great respect to her

[Mac-7]

Think ... What did Donald Trump "SAY" ... :rollseyes:

No one is talking about what he did, it's what he Said!

He said he hopes the business cycle does its thing so he can make money.

Thats what real estate speculators like trump and pokahantas do.

[exotix]

It makes no difference what year it wasI flipped a couple of fixer-uppers back then ... not to the tune of a hundred grand ... not to mention the money and sweat I put into them ...

Why don't you bark-up the trousers of people who laugh at the destruction they cause ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT29fq0slGc

[Mac-7]

I flipped a couple of fixer-uppers back then ... not to the tune of a hundred grand ... not to mention the money and sweat I put into them ...

Why don't you bark-up the trousers of people who laugh at the destruction they cause ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT29fq0slGc

Bush sure helped to cause the housing bubble.

every bleeding heart liberal and "compassionate conservative" moron from bill clinton onward did when they forced the banks to lend to low income people who really could not afford a house.

[MisterVeritis]

As soon as the word "Pochohantas" comes out of one of their mouths, we can safely assume that something really stupid will soon follow. It is a tell.
I prefer Fauxohantas myself.

[Cigar]

Bush sure helped to cause the housing bubble.

every bleeding heart liberal and "compassionate conservative" moron from bill clinton onward did when they forced the banks to lend to low income people who really could not afford a house.


Wow ... you mean I could have Forced a Bank to Lend me money? :shocked:

[MisterVeritis]

Wow ... you mean I could have Forced a Bank to Lend me money? :shocked:
That was BJ Bill Clinton's responsibility executed by Big Boss Janet Reno who threatened banks with endless investigations if they refused to make loans to people with no means to pay the money back.

[Cigar]

That was BJ Bill Clinton's responsibility executed by Big Boss Janet Reno who threatened banks with endless investigations if they refused to make loans to people with no means to pay the money back.


:wink: Don't worry MisterVeritis Redlining still continued as usual.

[exotix]

Bush sure helped to cause the housing bubble.

every bleeding heart liberal and "compassionate conservative" moron from bill clinton onward did when they forced the banks to lend to low income people who really could not afford a house.Can we get you to comment this ?



'I believe in the American Dream'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ

[Cigar]

That's going to be hard to swallow :laugh:

[MisterVeritis]

:wink: Don't worry @MisterVeritis (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1287) Redlining still continued as usual.
Right. People unable to pay back loans did not receive loans.

Then BJ stepped in and used the (in)Justice Department to coerce banks. Leftists love tyranny as long as they/you can find someone else to blame the results on.

[Mac-7]

Wow ... you mean I could have Forced a Bank to Lend me money? :shocked:

By voting fpr the strong arms in the DNC yes.

[Cigar]

By voting fpr the strong arms in the DNC yes.


Thanks for the info :tongue:

[Mac-7]

Can we get you to comment this ?



'I believe in the American Dream'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ

My comment.

its an example of bleeding heart "compassionate conservative" stupidity.

[leekohler2]

According to government records Elizabeth Warren was a house flipper.

which makes her just as greedy as she accuses donald trump of being

http://www.mhmarketingsalesmanagement.com/blogs/daily-business-news/senator-elizabeth-warren-flipped-houses/

Umm...no. House flipping depends on the market being stable, not failing.

[Mac-7]

Umm...no. House flipping depends on the market being stable, not failing.

It depends on buying low at the expense of one person and selling high at the expense of another.

stable or unstable smart sharks like warren always eat good.

[sachem]

I find this thread title incredibly racist.

[MisterVeritis]

I find this thread title incredibly racist.
Right. Everyone knows it is the white man who speaks with forked tongue. Well, according to the red man.

[leekohler2]

I find this thread title incredibly racist.

I find it incredibly stupid.

[AZ Jim]

Trump came back with some usual pathetic name-calling ... acting all butthurt ... he's losing it ... LOLI like Jon Stewarts name for him "Babyman". Hurt his little feelings and he either begins the "your mothers a whore" or "I'm sueing".

[FindersKeepers]

Is that really all you have? rofl

Not that I am surprised.

In the world of politics -- that's more than enough.

Every time Warren strikes out at him -- he'll respond with "Pocahontas" and if people don't know already -- they'll ask why. That will end with Warren not just being caught in a lie -- but busted in a massive racial deception, since she took advantage of being listed in professional journals and was lauded as being a ground-breaking American Indian female.

You ask, "is that all you have?" but, you don't follow the question to its logical conclusion.

Just that one label -- Pocahontas -- heaps tons of disrespect on Warren every time Trump utters it. She's already tried to walk her deception back.

Yuppers -- it's more than enough.

And, it's entertaining to boot.

[suds00]

this is not going to turn out well

[Professor Peabody]

She is going to keep it up right until the election. She will be able to do more damage to Trump than Clinton can.. at least for right now. Warren is in a safe senate seat, and will be able remain the Massachusetts senator for as long as she wants to be. Trump can not touch her or cause her damage.. She has nothing to lose and will hammer Trump relentlessly and there isn't a damn thing he can do about it.

Really? Look at Hillary's #1 industry support?

1) Securities & Investment $26,952,265 (https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/indus.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019&type=f)

Wall St.:roflmao:

[Truth Detector]

It is going to be a lot of fun watching her dismantle Donald Trump over the next five and a half months.

WHOOOOPS!

Elizabeth Warren Bought Foreclosed Homes to Make a Quick Profit

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418907/elizabeth-warren-real-estate-profiteer-jillian-kay-melchior-eliana-johnson

[Peter1469]

Not the fake Indian again.... :shocked:

[Truth Detector]

Problem is it helps him. As some were discussing recently, he's a troll. Attacking him gives him attention, gets his name in the news, delights his supporters.

Wrong; Warren and Liberuls are the trolls. The more they attack him, the more everyone else likes him. Hell, I am going to vote for him just to see the leftist heads explode. Should be damn fun.....get used to it Libruls....President Trump! :biglaugh:

[Professor Peabody]

Can we get you to comment this ?



'I believe in the American Dream'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown

[Mac-7]

I find it incredibly stupid.

You think its stupid because liberals have no sense of humor when they are the butt of the joke.

[Mac-7]

Right. Everyone knows it is the white man who speaks with forked tongue. Well, according to the red man.

Its not a slander against Indians aka native Americans because senator pokohantas aint one.

according to her mother who should know Elibeth warren is a paleface pretending to be an Indian because in racist 21 Century America Native Americans get special treatment.

[Cletus]

I find this thread title incredibly racist.

How so?

[Common]

How so?

Indian name

[Cletus]

Indian name

White people aren't allowed to have Indian names?

[PolWatch]

Duplicate Threads Merged

[zelmo1234]

This is interesting and may have been mentioned. earlier, if it has please forgive me.

But Apparently Pocahontas not only forgot that she was not American Indian, but forgot that she made a lot of money buying those homes that those poor people lost in foreclosure and selling them to other people.

You know that same thing that she was having a fit over Trump doing?

Do they really think that people are not going to find out about this shit, or are Democrats just that stupid.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Elizabeth-Warren-flip-foreclosed-houses/2015/05/27/id/647096/

I heard Trumps answer today? "what do they think it is good business to buy something at the top of the market? that would be stupid"

Where Democrats are counting Donald to run and hide from this like the sissy GOP candidates of the past, he embraces it, brags about it, and shoves in right back in their face.

I expect to see the Democrats here demanding that Pocahontas, return that quarter of a million that she made profiting off the hardship of others.

[Mac-7]

This is interesting and may have been mentioned. earlier, if it has please forgive me.

But Apparently Pocahontas not only forgot that she was not American Indian, but forgot that she made a lot of money buying those homes that those poor people lost in foreclosure and selling them to other people.

You know that same thing that she was having a fit over Trump doing?

Do they really think that people are not going to find out about this $#@!, or are Democrats just that stupid.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Elizabeth-Warren-flip-foreclosed-houses/2015/05/27/id/647096/

I heard Trumps answer today? "what do they think it is good business to buy something at the top of the market? that would be stupid"

Where Democrats are counting Donald to run and hide from this like the sissy GOP candidates of the past, he embraces it, brags about it, and shoves in right back in their face.

I expect to see the Democrats here demanding that Pocahontas, return that quarter of a million that she made profiting off the hardship of others.

She even made a windfall profit off her brother by loaning him money at high interest rates so that he could rip off poor people too.

[The Sage of Main Street]

What's your point ? ... that was in the '90's ... You defend her because you're wearing her tribe's headdress.

[Tahuyaman]

It is going to be a lot of fun watching her dismantle Donald Trump over the next five and a half months.


Whats going to be entertaining is watching Trump go after her. She's going to fall apart under his politically incorrect attacks. She's a vacuous dolt.

[The Sage of Main Street]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown
The banks wanted the ghetto guttersnipes to default. Then they could repossess whole neighborhoods, evict the swarm, and resell at a huge profit to build upscale apartment complexes for rich bachelor professionals. If this had not been a bonanza for banksters, but instead had been a forced politically correct sacrifice, they would have overturned the laws mandating it when their party controlled Congress and the White House. So the reason for the pity party for plutocratic parasites doesn't add up.

[Mark III]

Whats going to be entertaining is watching Trump go after her. She's going to fall apart under his politically incorrect attacks. She's a vacuous dolt.

Trump will fall apart long before Warren will. He's not used to being pounded on, he is going to be pounded on relentlessly, and he will likely blow his cool long before election day.

[Tahuyaman]

Trump will fall apart long before Warren will. He's not used to being pounded on, he is going to be pounded on relentlessly, and he will likely blow his cool long before election day.


People lhave been going after Trump for years. He's used to it. When he gets attacked, he responds quickly and in an outrageous manner. She won't know what hit her.

Pocahontas is a vapid dolt.

[PolWatch]

Yes, Trump does respond. But all of his responses seem to have a 'see what you made me do' justification. How will that look on someone who wants to be president? Of course, he was correct when he said that he could shoot someone and still not lose his supporters. I've always been amazed at partisans that will support anyone with their team sweater....Trump has taken that to new levels.

[Tahuyaman]

Yes, Trump does respond. But all of his responses seem to have a 'see what you made me do' justification. How will that look on someone who wants to be president? Of course, he was correct when he said that he could shoot someone and still not lose his supporters. I've always been amazed at partisans that will support anyone with their team sweater....Trump has taken that to new levels.


And as inexplicable as it is, his responses are working with more and more people.

a lot of people thought to be Republican Party hacks are not supporting him. But yes, the true partisans always line up behind the party choice.

[PolWatch]

And as inexplicable as it is, his responses are working with more and more people.

Its a mystery. Trump verbalizes problems, tells people how smart, rich & wonderful he is and, somehow, some folks hear a solution to the problems. If enough people continue to believe this constitutes a viable candidate, we may end up with the schoolyard bully as president. Not really a problem unless he creates/encounters a situation where bragging & threats don't work. He can't fire Congress nor the citizens.

[Tahuyaman]

Its a mystery. Trump verbalizes problems, tells people how smart, rich & wonderful he is and, somehow, some folks hear a solution to the problems. If enough people continue to believe this constitutes a viable candidate, we may end up with the schoolyard bully as president. Not really a problem unless he creates/encounters a situation where bragging & threats don't work. He can't fire Congress nor the citizens.


It certainly defies a logical explanation.

He attracts his supporters for several reasons. One, he's not a career politician, so some are attracted to that. Second, he's thumbing his nose at the establishment, some are attracted by that. Third, he completely ignores modern political correctness. A lot of people like that. He's also not afraid to tell everyone how successful he's been, so some think he will be successful at whatever he does.

[Mister D]

It certainly defies a logical explanation.

He attracts his supporters for several reasons. One, he's not a career politician, so some are attracted to that. Second, he's thumbing his nose at the establishment, some are attracted by that. Third, he completely ignores modern political correctness. A lot of people like that. He's also not afraid to tell everyone how successful he's been, so some think he will be successful at whatever he does.

You just gave three logical explanations.

[Tahuyaman]

You just gave three logical explanations.


I know. I contradicted myself. I didn't think anyone was going to catch that. Kudos to you.

actually, it was four reasons.

[zelmo1234]

Trump will fall apart long before Warren will. He's not used to being pounded on, he is going to be pounded on relentlessly, and he will likely blow his cool long before election day.

I would think that Hillary is going to have it a lot harder, she now has the inspector general, the FBI, a Republican Senate and Congress, and Trump will be going after her. She is already dancing around the issues.

[exotix]

Its not a slander against Indians aka native Americans because senator pokohantas aint one.

according to her mother who should know Elibeth warren is a paleface pretending to be an Indian because in racist 21 Century America Native Americans get special treatment.You do realize Pocahontas (who's actual name was Matoax) saved John Smith from beheading and returned 'em to Jamestown (and who's named was changed to Pocohantas to protect her) don't you ?

Wait, why would you ... Drumpf doesn't either.

[exotix]

Right. Everyone knows it is the white man who speaks with forked tongue. Well, according to the red man.
In the world of politics -- that's more than enough.

Every time Warren strikes out at him -- he'll respond with "Pocahontas" and if people don't know already -- they'll ask why. That will end with Warren not just being caught in a lie -- but busted in a massive racial deception, since she took advantage of being listed in professional journals and was lauded as being a ground-breaking American Indian female.

You ask, "is that all you have?" but, you don't follow the question to its logical conclusion.

Just that one label -- Pocahontas -- heaps tons of disrespect on Warren every time Trump utters it. She's already tried to walk her deception back.

Yuppers -- it's more than enough.

And, it's entertaining to boot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJw1o3wKp0

[zelmo1234]

You do realize that if Warren would not have lied about being an American Indian, to get scholarships and preferential treatment, she would not have the nick name Pocahontas?

Trump is not the first one to name her that.

As for the people that are offended? They have better Cowboy UP! because this is not going to be an election where the Democrats call people names and the GOP takes the higher politically correct ground.

This one is going to be fought on the Democrats playing field.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Trump will fall apart long before Warren will. He's not used to being pounded on, he is going to be pounded on relentlessly, and he will likely blow his cool long before election day. Little White Dove will never be able to scalp him. His hairpiece is hardwired to his skull.

[The Sage of Main Street]

You do realize Pocahontas (who's actual name was Matoax) saved John Smith from beheading and returned 'em to Jamestown (and who's named was changed to Pocohantas to protect her) don't you ?

Wait, why would you ... Drumpf doesn't either. Was that before or after her tribe massacred all the male pioneers at Roanoke Island and abducted all their women? Maybe Miss Poca acted the way she did because she was half-white.

[MisterVeritis]

Trump will fall apart long before Warren will. He's not used to being pounded on, he is going to be pounded on relentlessly, and he will likely blow his cool long before election day.
I love your sense of humor. Really, I do.

[MisterVeritis]

Its a mystery. Trump verbalizes problems, tells people how smart, rich & wonderful he is and, somehow, some folks hear a solution to the problems. If enough people continue to believe this constitutes a viable candidate, we may end up with the schoolyard bully as president. Not really a problem unless he creates/encounters a situation where bragging & threats don't work. He can't fire Congress nor the citizens.
Perhaps you have failed to notice whose side Trump is on.

Yep. That would explain your comment.

[MisterVeritis]

It certainly defies a logical explanation.

He attracts his supporters for several reasons. One, he's not a career politician, so some are attracted to that. Second, he's thumbing his nose at the establishment, some are attracted by that. Third, he completely ignores modern political correctness. A lot of people like that. He's also not afraid to tell everyone how successful he's been, so some think he will be successful at whatever he does.
Productive Americans have been betrayed by politicians. However uncomfortable you are with the truth you will not get the right answer until you face it.

[MisterVeritis]

You just gave three logical explanations.
None of which matter.

[The Sage of Main Street]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJw1o3wKp0 Funny, that freelance journalist doesn't look Siouxish. At least according to the cartoon movie Pocahontas.

[exotix]

You do realize that if Warren would not have lied about being an American Indian, to get scholarships and preferential treatment, she would not have the nick name Pocahontas?

Trump is not the first one to name her that.

As for the people that are offended? They have better Cowboy UP! because this is not going to be an election where the Democrats call people names and the GOP takes the higher politically correct ground.

This one is going to be fought on the Democrats playing field.Notice how you call Warren an American hero while attempting to desecrate the American Hero ...

Jus' nutha example of sick fuck conservatism ... sad.

[exotix]

Was that before or after her tribe massacred all the male pioneers at Roanoke Island and abducted all their women? Maybe Miss Poca acted the way she did because she was half-white.Maybe they were standing their ground against the invading honkey ... LOL

[Peter1469]

Maybe they were standing their ground against the invading honkey ... LOL

Turned out well for them, right? :shocked:

[The Sage of Main Street]

Maybe they were standing their ground against the invading honkey ... LOL It wasn't their ground. They stole it from another mob of savages and built nothing on it. That was the Indian Way, not the evolutionary way, which is use it or lose it.