Obama is at it again

[texan]

Says "world leaders are rattled by Trump."

Number 1 sir is how many have said this to you? Answer not many this is campaign lying and thin skinned rhetoric.

Number 2 sir none of this will be a factor in the election. The more they are concerned the better.

Number 3 sir your actions worldwide have rattled the world and irritated allies, this is a fact.

Number 4 sir you actions have the world on fire and terrorism is at an all time high. Your strategy hasn't worked.

You really do not have much worldwide credibility. Your lack of foreign policy is laughable.

[Cigar]

The World is looking at Donald Trump and it's well beyond obvious to those with a 3rd grade education, that his moron is clueless. :rollseyes: Yes, The World thinks he's an idiot.

But look at the bright side ... he's on The Republican Ticket :laugh:

[Tahuyaman]

Well, we've survived having an incompetent ego maniac as president for almost eight years. We can survive the next president too, no matter which embarrassing candidate is elected.

[Peter1469]

The world leaders are spun up over the fact that Trump is outside of the Establishment. He is not on a leash.

They ought to be rattled.

[Truth Detector]

Says "world leaders are rattled by Trump."

Number 1 sir is how many have said this to you? Answer not many this is campaign lying and thin skinned rhetoric.

Number 2 sir none of this will be a factor in the election. The more they are concerned the better.

Number 3 sir your actions worldwide have rattled the world and irritated allies, this is a fact.

Number 4 sir you actions have the world on fire and terrorism is at an all time high. Your strategy hasn't worked.

You really do not have much worldwide credibility. Your lack of foreign policy is laughable.

He cain't hep it; he is a lying liberal. :biglaugh:

[Truth Detector]

The World is looking at Donald Trump and it's well beyond obvious to those with a 3rd grade education, that his moron is clueless. :rollseyes: Yes, The World thinks he's an idiot.

But look at the bright side ... he's on The Republican Ticket :laugh:

Only clueless dunces think the rest of the world is filled with intellectual political apparatchiks who don't have their collective heads stuck up their arses. :biglaugh:

[Safety]

Well, we've survived having an incompetent ego maniac as president for almost eight years. We can survive the next president too, no matter which embarrassing candidate is elected.

Bush wasn't that bad, incompetent, sure, but ego maniac....that's over the top.

[Truth Detector]

Bush wasn't that bad, incompetent, sure, but ego maniac....that's over the top.

I do wish you were funny and informed; but alas, redundant and low information are the only adjectives that come to mind. ;)

[MMC]

Says "world leaders are rattled by Trump."

Number 1 sir is how many have said this to you? Answer not many this is campaign lying and thin skinned rhetoric.

Number 2 sir none of this will be a factor in the election. The more they are concerned the better.

Number 3 sir your actions worldwide have rattled the world and irritated allies, this is a fact.

Number 4 sir you actions have the world on fire and terrorism is at an all time high. Your strategy hasn't worked.

You really do not have much worldwide credibility. Your lack of foreign policy is laughable.

Yet when they asked him about Hillary and her emails. Why didn't he say there was nothing there? Why didn't he say Hillary was innocent? Why wont he answer the question as to why he said Hillary was careless? :laugh:

[Safety]

I do wish you were funny and informed; but alas, redundant and low information are the only adjectives that come to mind. ;)

I do award points for thinking, but also subtract all of them for drooling.

[Common Sense]

The world leaders are spun up over the fact that Trump is outside of the Establishment. He is not on a leash.

They ought to be rattled.

The world leaders are "spun" because they never thought Americans were stupid enough to consider someone like Trump.

[Tahuyaman]

Bush wasn't that bad, incompetent, sure, but ego maniac....that's over the top.

Well, we survived him for eight full years. If you had any reading comprehension ability, you would know who I was talking about when I said we've survived "almost eight years".

Now go troll someone else.

[Safety]

Well, we survived him for eight full years. If you had any reading comprehension ability, you would know who I was talking about when I said we've survived "almost eight years".

Now go troll someone else.

Well, he was kinda missing the last year in office, I thought you were referring to that.

[Common Sense]

Well, he was kinda missing the last year in office, I thought you were referring to that.

I thought he was referring to all the time in Texas.

[Safety]

I thought he was referring to all the time in Texas.

Obviously that was fine, the golf course, however....

[Common Sense]

Obviously that was fine, the golf course, however....

If you're wearing a cowboy hat it's still work.

[Safety]

If you're wearing a cowboy hat it's still work.

LoL, ' murica.

[Common Sense]

LoL, ' murica.

Fuck yeah!

[zelmo1234]

The Governments of the UK, Germany, China, Russia, Israel, and N. Korea have all openly mocked and made fun of President Obama.

How bad can Trump be.

[Safety]

Fuck yeah!

:flag:

[Tahuyaman]

Well, he was kinda missing the last year in office, I thought you were referring to that.


I'm convinced Safety has two brains. One is lost and the other is out looking for it.

[Safety]

I'm convinced Safety has two brains. One is lost and the other is out looking for it.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/47e3b967a1163b3012297062a9e8d4d0/tumblr_inline_n7g2pu0yAm1rfpm4i.jpg

[Tahuyaman]

Safety is out of his depth while standing in a puddle.

[Safety]

Safety is out of his depth while standing in a puddle.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/39/cd/51/39cd51af90d85ad3cc9afd1413e472e5.jpg

[Tahuyaman]

Safety is out of his depth while standing in a puddle.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/39/cd/51/39cd51af90d85ad3cc9afd1413e472e5.jpg


But I'll bet he works well with shiny objects.

[texan]

The world leaders are spun up over the fact that Trump is outside of the Establishment. He is not on a leash.

They ought to be rattled.

Nothing Obama tried to roll out has any factor in anything.................Campaign ploy!

[zelmo1234]

The World is looking at Donald Trump and it's well beyond obvious to those with a 3rd grade education, that his moron is clueless. :rollseyes: Yes, The World thinks he's an idiot.

But look at the bright side ... he's on The Republican Ticket :laugh:

And yet they are nervous about Trump, while they openly mock Obama and taunt our Military because they know that Obama is a world class pussy.

[Tahuyaman]

The world leaders are spun up over the fact that Trump is outside of the Establishment. He is not on a leash.

They ought to be rattled.

I don't believe these other world leaders have communicated these thoughts to Obama. I believe he's just making that shit up and trying to pass it off as fact.

It's not like he is this widely revered and respected leader.

[maineman]

It's not like he is this widely revered and respected leader.again... your hatred of our President blinds you to the truth.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/29/president-obama-named-admired-man-world-7th-straight-year.html

[Tahuyaman]

No hatred.


President Obama Named The Most Admired Man In The World For The 7th Straight Year



By who? Partisan Democtrats, that's who.

These people believe everyone thinks like them because they live in an echo chamber.

[silvereyes]

I do wish you were funny and informed; but alas, redundant and low information are the only adjectives that come to mind. ;)

Omg! That's really mean AND uncalled for! I hope your mom told your teachers that used those words on your report cards that words hurt.

[silvereyes]

Obviously that was fine, the golf course, however....

Don't kid yourself. We have lots and lots of beautiful golf courses. As a matter of fact...there is one VERY close to their land. :)

[silvereyes]

And yet they are nervous about Trump, while they openly mock Obama and taunt our Military because they know that Obama is a world class pussy.

Zelmo, the only pussy you're aquainted with has 9 lives...and used 8 of them playing in traffic trying to get away from you.

[maineman]

Tahuyaman...Didn't bother to read the link, I see. Not surprising, coming from you.

[silvereyes]

No hatred.



By who? Partisan Democtrats, that's who.

These people believe everyone thinks like them because they live in an echo chamber.

I'm calling bullshit. I know you hate him.

[maineman]

I agree , his vapid protestations are contradicted by all of his hateful posts.

[Mac-7]

The world leaders are spun up over the fact that Trump is outside of the Establishment. He is not on a leash.

They ought to be rattled.

Well said.

obumer was somebody's bitch.

but trump answers only to himself.

[Mac-7]

I'm calling bull$#@!. I know you hate him.

Obama hated America before Americans hated him.

[maineman]

Obama hated America before Americans hated him.

more of the Limbaugh talking points memo, repeated here for the umpteenth time. GOD but it gets tedious listening to that shit!

[Mac-7]

more of the Limbaugh talking points memo, repeated here for the umpteenth time. GOD but it gets tedious listening to that $#@!!

Its my talking point.

but I'm proud if the greatest broadcaster in radio history thinks so too.

obumer, aka YOUR president, brought a lot of hatred for America with him to the white house.

and millions of Americans including me responded in kind.

[maineman]

Its my talking point.

but I'm proud if the greatest broadcaster in radio history thinks so too.

obumer, aka YOUR president, brought a lot of hatred for America with him to the white house.

and millions of Americans including me responded in kind.

that's just absolute bullshit. Obama loves this country every bit as much as you or I do. And we ALL know why you really hate him.

[Mac-7]

that's just absolute bull$#@!.

Obama loves this country

every bit as much as you or I do. And we ALL know why you really hate him.

That is the absolute bullshit

obumer and his wife have had a grudge against America for as long as they can remember

they brought their hate with them to the white house and have been dividing people more along race ever since.

[Mac-7]

The son of a bitch would not even salute the American flag before he took office.

[Safety]

Beta.

[maineman]

The son of a bitch would not even salute the American flag before he took office.

that is simply not true.

[maineman]

That is the absolute bullshit

obumer and his wife have had a grudge against America for as long as they can remember

they brought their hate with them to the white house and have been dividing people more along race ever since.

I totally disagree, but know that nothing I can say will change your hate-filled mind. It's pretty sad, though.

[Mac-7]

that is simply not true.

If you really believe that then you've been lied to or kept ignorant by the lib media.

in 2008 obumer refused to salute the flag during the national anthem at a democrat party rally/picnic in Iowa.

[Common Sense]

Someone is really making Derp Derp again...

[maineman]

If you really believe that then you've been lied to or kept ignorant by the lib media.

in 2008 obumer refused to salute the flag during the national anthem at a democrat party rally/picnic in Iowa.

one time he forgot to get his hand up to his heart and that means that he hates America? GMAFB.

you guys are fucking pathetic.

I just watched a Red Sox game on TV last night - well the start of it anyhow... we had dinner/concert plans so I couldn't watch the whole thing. Sox versus Colorado Rockies. Big night. Wade Boggs' number was being retired. Packed Fenway park... as the camera panned both benches and all around the stands during the national anthem, at least half of the players and fans did not have their hands over their hearts.... and Mac would have us believe that ALL those people hate America. That is ridiculous.

[Mac-7]

one time he forgot to get his hand up to his heart and that means that he hates America? GMAFB.



He didnt forget.

obumer was showing us who he is.

its part of what he learned in rev wright's church

or from his consort who that same year said she had never been proud of her country.

obumer is a black power America hating, white hating lefty.

[Common Sense]

Lol...

[maineman]

He didnt forget.

obumer was showing us who he is.

its part of what he learned in rev wright's church

or from his consort who that same year said she had never been proud of her country.

obumer is a black power America hating, white hating lefty.

you're a twisted, sad and bitter little man. I feel sorry for you.

[birddog]

He didnt forget.

obumer was showing us who he is.

its part of what he learned in rev wright's church

or from his consort who that same year said she had never been proud of her country.

obumer is a black power America hating, white hating lefty.

You are absolutely correct, the fact that some cannot see it is pathetic! Those who voted for and still support Obama should be ashamed!

[Tahuyaman]

I'm calling bull$#@!. I know you hate him.

No. I don't respect him

[Tahuyaman]

@Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365)...Didn't bother to read the link, I see. Not surprising, coming from you.


I read it. Partisan types think he's the messiah.

[Common Sense]

I read it. Partisan types think he's the messiah.

A couple of idiots might, but I think most people who support Obama realize he's simply a politician and a human.

[AeonPax]

more of the Limbaugh talking points memo, repeated here for the umpteenth time. GOD but it gets tedious listening to that shit!
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He's a nonperson to me.

[maineman]

I read it. Partisan types think he's the messiah.

not at all. people around the world do, in fact, admire him a great deal, which makes your previous comment on the subject in error once again.

[Truth Detector]

The world leaders are "spun" because they never thought Americans were stupid enough to consider someone like Trump.

Looking at who Europeans and Kanukistanians put in charge, they have very little room to call our leaders stupid. DUH!

[Truth Detector]

Obama hated America before Americans hated him.

^ SPOT ON bro!

[Truth Detector]

more of the Limbaugh talking points memo, repeated here for the umpteenth time. GOD but it gets tedious listening to that $#@!!

Yep, in Librul loony land, everyone who doesn't agree with them get their talking points from good ole Rush. Not only is that talking point moronic, but it is redundant and boring.

[Truth Detector]

that's just absolute bull$#@!. Obama loves this country every bit as much as you or I do. And we ALL know why you really hate him.

LMAO; that has got to be the most airheaded thing anyone could ever say about the Obummer. :biglaugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gtfizIbBDI

[Truth Detector]

A couple of idiots might, but I think most people who support Obama realize he's simply a politician and a human.

Most people with at least half a brain see Obama for the pompous, clueless dunce that he really is. ;)

[Tahuyaman]

?..I think most people who support Obama realize he's simply a politician and a human.

and an incompetent one too.

[Tahuyaman]

If one bases his campaign on transforming America, there must be something he or she dislikes about the principles this nation was built upon.

[Tahuyaman]

Looking at who Europeans and Kanukistanians put in charge, they have very little room to call our leaders stupid. DUH!

Socialist goof-balls always approve of other socialist leaning goof-balls.

[Mac-7]

Yep, in Librul loony land, everyone who doesn't agree with them get their talking points from good ole Rush. Not only is that talking point moronic, but it is redundant and boring.

Liberals (most of them anyway) dont think .

they let others supply them with talking points and they assume we on the other side do too.

[Mac-7]

LMAO; that has got to be the most airheaded thing anyone could ever say about the Obummer. :biglaugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gtfizIbBDI

It is commie style athiest idol worship.

[maineman]

If one bases his campaign on transforming America, there must be something he or she dislikes about the principles this nation was built upon.

in your opinion. Trump says "make America great again" implying that he also wants to transform it to something different. Do you whine about that, too?

[Tahuyaman]

in your opinion. Trump says "make America great again" implying that he also wants to transform it to something different. Do you whine about that, too?

Restoring isn't the same thing as transforming. Someone as intelligent as you seem to think you are should not have to be told this.

Now, obviously our current president objects to the principles this nation was founded upon. I'm glad his time is nearly up.

[maineman]

he wants to take us back like Mr Whoopee in the way back machine? How far?

[silvereyes]

Obama hated America before Americans hated him.

God, you cry ALOT.

[silvereyes]

The son of a bitch would not even salute the American flag before he took office.

Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies lies

[Tahuyaman]

he wants to take us back like Mr Whoopee in the way back machine? How far?

what?

[silvereyes]

^ SPOT ON bro!

What do YOU know? Go eat some stinky salmon! ;)

[maineman]

before your time, I guess. Never mind.

[silvereyes]

If one bases his campaign on transforming America, there must be something he or she dislikes about the principles this nation was built upon.
Dumb

Socialist goof-balls always approve of other socialist leaning goof-balls.
Dumber

Liberals (most of them anyway) dont think .

they let others supply them with talking points and they assume we on the other side do too.
Dumbest

[Tahuyaman]

Bless your heart

[Tahuyaman]

If one bases his campaign on transforming America, there must be something he or she dislikes about the principles this nation was built upon.


Dumb

Seriously, if you think America needs to be transformed, you must not approve of the principles which built this nation? Right? What specifically needs to be transformed?

Explain why you think that is a dumb comment. I'm giving you a chance to show how intelligent you are.

[maineman]

This nation is always transforming itself. Initially, the only people who could vote were white male property owners...than we transformed. Initially, enshrined in the constitution was the inequality of races and the rights of white folks to actually own black folks... then we transformed. Initially, women could not vote, and then, over 130 years after those principles that we founded our country on were initially inscribed in our constitution, we transformed ouselves again. We used to let factory owners employ children, but then we transformed ourselves yet again.

The founding fathers knew that would happen... That's why the preamble talks about forming a MORE perfect union instead of the MOST perfect union. Wanting to work to make our union MORE perfect than it was last year or last decade or last century... wanting to transform our nation again and again into a more perfect union is an extremely patriotic aspiration.

[maineman]

And, at every step of the way, there were folks that said, "Okay... I understand dropping the property owner thing, but that's it! Fix that, and we 're the most perfect." Or... "Alright... I get it... Owning people as property made us a little bit less than perfect, but NOW that we've fixed that minor little bug, NOW we're the most perfect!"

There's a name for the people who thought - and continue to think - that way: conservatives.

[silvereyes]

So, Chump wants to make it great. Obama wanted hope and change. Fundamentally, theres really no difference.

[silvereyes]

Bless your heart

When you quit being a dick then maybe I will answer you.

[maineman]

When you quit being a dick then maybe I will answer you.the day he ceases to be a dick will be the day that he disappears. It is his total persona.

[silvereyes]

the day he ceases to be a dick will be the day that he disappears. It is his total persona.
I know. Safety still hasn't forgiven me.

[Common]

that's just absolute bullshit. Obama loves this country every bit as much as you or I do. And we ALL know why you really hate him.

I dont hate him, I just think hes a worthless jerkoff. Hes done nothing in 8 yrs for the working class.

He hasnt stopped a single person from dieing in war, he hasnt closed gitmo. Where are all the gitmo trials he and holder promised ?

The economy sucks, hes not only done nothing about he doesnt even mention outsourcing.

Race relations are worse today then they were 20 yrs ago. WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR POOR INNER CITY BLACKS. 1 word NOTHING, there are more poor today then when he took office 7.5 yrs ago.

He has diminished america in the world. Russia and China visibly have far less respect for us.

People like you maineman are dime a dozen partisan hacks. You dont have a shred of honesty in you. Obama has governed by spite. I do NOT DISLIKE HIM OR HATE HIM merely because hes black. Ive turned on him because hes worthless, hes done nothing tangible to improve any of the major problems in this country. Hes used more oxygen for 8 yrs promoting everything gay like theres not another 97% of americans alive.

I dont even notice hes black I believe hes a piece of shit in the mold of jimmy carter.

Stuff the everyone hates him because hes black garbage. I would think hes a worthless jerkoff if he was my cousin

[maineman]

Stuff the everyone hates him because hes black garbage.

since it is you that said it, not me.... I would suggest that you find some place to stuff it.

and I will reiterate: gratuitously impugning the integrity of someone who has not acted without it will quickly end our future conversations. You might disagree with me, but do not say that I lack honesty or have failed to display it. That is simply not the case. Find other tactical arguments other than attacking my integrity, or find someone else to discuss issues with. It's that simple.

[maineman]

Tahuyaman... I wrote this last night especially for you. Care to comment upon it, and its follow-up post, or not?
This nation is always transforming itself. Initially, the only people who could vote were white male property owners...than we transformed. Initially, enshrined in the constitution was the inequality of races and the rights of white folks to actually own black folks... then we transformed. Initially, women could not vote, and then, over 130 years after those principles that we founded our country on were initially inscribed in our constitution, we transformed ouselves again. We used to let factory owners employ children, but then we transformed ourselves yet again.

The founding fathers knew that would happen... That's why the preamble talks about forming a MORE perfect union instead of the MOST perfect union. Wanting to work to make our union MORE perfect than it was last year or last decade or last century... wanting to transform our nation again and again into a more perfect union is an extremely patriotic aspiration.

[silvereyes]

I dont hate him, I just think hes a worthless jerkoff. Hes done nothing in 8 yrs for the working class.

He hasnt stopped a single person from dieing in war, he hasnt closed gitmo. Where are all the gitmo trials he and holder promised ?

The economy sucks, hes not only done nothing about he doesnt even mention outsourcing.

Race relations are worse today then they were 20 yrs ago. WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR POOR INNER CITY BLACKS. 1 word NOTHING, there are more poor today then when he took office 7.5 yrs ago.

He has diminished america in the world. Russia and China visibly have far less respect for us.

People like you maineman are dime a dozen partisan hacks. You dont have a shred of honesty in you. Obama has governed by spite. I do NOT DISLIKE HIM OR HATE HIM merely because hes black. Ive turned on him because hes worthless, hes done nothing tangible to improve any of the major problems in this country. Hes used more oxygen for 8 yrs promoting everything gay like theres not another 97% of americans alive.

I dont even notice hes black I believe hes a piece of shit in the mold of jimmy carter.

Stuff the everyone hates him because hes black garbage. I would think hes a worthless jerkoff if he was my cousin
Point out where he said one word about being black in his post. You've been hanging around trinns dump too long. You've become as hate-filled and nasty as they are. You used to not be like that. :( Now go ahead and say ugly things to me. That's all I expect from anyone who hangs out there.

[Tahuyaman]

When you quit being a dick then maybe I will answer you.

Blessings to you and yours

[Tahuyaman]

@Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365)... I wrote this last night especially for you. Care to comment upon it, and its follow-up post, or not?



Originally Posted by maineman http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/63526-Obama-is-at-it-again/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/63526-Obama-is-at-it-again/showthread.php?p=1569332#post1569332)
This nation is always transforming itself. Initially, the only people who could vote were white male property owners...than we transformed. Initially, enshrined in the constitution was the inequality of races and the rights of white folks to actually own black folks... then we transformed. Initially, women could not vote, and then, over 130 years after those principles that we founded our country on were initially inscribed in our constitution, we transformed ouselves again. We used to let factory owners employ children, but then we transformed ourselves yet again.

The founding fathers knew that would happen... That's why the preamble talks about forming a MORE perfect union instead of the MOST perfect union. Wanting to work to make our union MORE perfect than it was last year or last decade or last century... wanting to transform our nation again and again into a more perfect union is an extremely patriotic aspiration.


None of which called for transforming the principles this nation was founded upon. Actually some of that was ensuring that we live up to our principles. Upholding those principles.

The left believes that there is something fundamentally wrong with America. you must be in agreement, right?

[The Xl]

They're rattled because their globalist bosses told them to be rattled. Can't have a guy who isn't bought wielding influence, now.

[maineman]

.


None of which called for transforming the principles this nation was founded upon. Actually some of that was ensuring that we live up to our principles. Upholding those principles.

The left believes that there is something fundamentally wrong with America. you must be in agreement, right?

not at all. There is something fundamentally right with America... but, just as our founders knew, we should always strive to make it more perfect by continually transforming it.

Barack Obama has NEVER said that he wanted to transform the principles this nation was founded upon. That is simply you putting words in his mouth and attacking him for them.

[Tahuyaman]

not at all. There is something fundamentally right with America... but, just as our founders knew, we call always strive to make it more perfect by continually transforming it.

Barack Obama has NEVER said that he wanted to transform the principles this nation was founded upon. That is simply you putting words in his mouth and attacking him for them.


when he said that he wanted to transform America, what do you suppose he meant? What does a transformation consist of? If he believes in the principles this nation was founded upon, why not say that he wants to ensure we live up to those principles?

He didn't say that because he doesn't approve of or believe in those time tested principles. He believes those ideals are outdated and a relic of an embarrassing and shameful past.

[maineman]

when he said that he wanted to transform America, what do you suppose he meant? What does a transformation consist of? If he believes in the principles this nation was founded upon, why not say that he wants to ensure we live up to those principles?

He didn't say that because he doesn't approve of or believe in those time tested principles. He believes those ideals are outdated and a relic of an embarrassing and shameful past.

I gave you several examples of transformation. Can you fucking read??? And since fucking when do you get off thinking you're the presidential speech writer. He said what he said. Not what you wanted him to say. That does not mean that he does not believe in the principles this nation was founded on... one of which being the never ending search for a MORE perfect union.... through continual transformation.

[Tahuyaman]

It doesn't you take long to show who you really are.

[maineman]

it doesn't take long for you to show that you are thick as a brick. You ask stupid questions that have already been answered.

dumb... and, after a while, a bit annoying.

[Tahuyaman]

They're rattled because their globalist bosses told them to be rattled. Can't have a guy who isn't bought wielding influence, now.


I don't believe that these other world leaders have communicated this concern to Obama. I think he just makes up things in order to fool the foolish. The people who are usually fooled fall for it.

[valley ranch]

It sounds like maineman loves America, but to give or transfer those feelings to the Muslim now in the White House is impossible, if he's listened to his words and seen what he's done.

Obama is not you or anyone here, he's who we all have been watching for several years. He has expressed clear dislike for America when talking and acting here and more so when in other countries most clearly in Muslim countries.

He hasn't been a friend to us and only the thin veil of pretence, for political reasons, exist between what is said and saying outright and honestly that he hates us, hates America.

[MisterVeritis]

in your opinion. Trump says "make America great again" implying that he also wants to transform it to something different. Do you whine about that, too?
Think of it as restoration. Obama and the left tore it down. Trump and the middle and right will restore it. You can watch.

[MisterVeritis]

he wants to take us back like Mr Whoopee in the way back machine? How far?
That is an interesting question. In my opinion, it is the wrong one. Obama and his regime have been lawless. Trump can reverse the impacts of obama's lawlessness.

[maineman]

Think of it as restoration. Obama and the left tore it down. Trump and the middle and right will restore it. You can watch.

going back to the good old days of George W. Bush will put a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot.... no doubt.

[Tahuyaman]

it doesn't take long for you to show that you are thick as a brick. You ask stupid questions that have already been answered.

dumb... and, after a while, a bit annoying.


going back to the good old days of George W. Bush will put a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot.... no doubt.


when you run out of substance, it happens rather quickly.

[maineman]

In post #100, MrV said that Obama had torn it down and trump would restore it. One can only assume that he meant to restore it to the good old days of George W. Bush when everything was awesome and America was great. If not, to which golden era in our past do you think he wants to restore us?

It is almost like a real world version of the movie, Midnight in Paris.

[Tahuyaman]

Where did MisterVeritis say that the Bush years were the good old days? Why would you assume that he meant that?

It seems that you are assuming something which wasn't stated.

[Tahuyaman]

Think of it as restoration. Obama and the left tore it down. Trump and the middle and right will restore it. You can watch.


Obviously, Ameirca is in dire need of restoration in several areas. I don't believe either of the two major party candidates can lead this restoration. I would agree that the left, ie Democrats caused the damage, but the Republicans sat back and watched this happen and did nothing to stop it.

[maineman]

Where did MisterVeritis say that the Bush years were the good old days? Why would you assume that he meant that?

It seems that you are assuming something which wasn't stated.

If what Obama tore down wasn't worth restoring, why was tearing it down such a tragedy? Post 100 says that Trump will restore what Obama tore down. Do you think that Obama tore down what Harding and Coolidge had built? The logical conclusion is that Obama tore down what came before him.... that was the presidency of Dubya. If Dubya had a hand in tearing down what Clinton had built, let's say, then MrV should have given him partial attribution...yes?

[Tahuyaman]

If what Obama tore down wasn't worth restoring, ....?


That comment speaks for itself.

The left believes the principles this nation were founded upon are not worth protecting.

[maineman]

That comment speaks for itself.

The left believes the principles this nation were founded upon are not worth protecting.

you just make shit up.

it really gets tedious.

the left believes no such thing and nothing I, nor President Obama have ever said indicates such an attitude.

[MisterVeritis]

going back to the good old days of George W. Bush will put a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot.... no doubt.
GWB was/is an Establishment Republican, a big government liberal. My preference is for the next president, President Trump, to state that we are going to return to a Constitutionally limited federal government. I would like to see a plan to gradually reduce every one of the independent agencies beginning with an across the board 10% real budget cut for every non-Constitutional agency. I would like to see a targeted executive order reversing Obama's unconstitutional executive orders. I hope that President Trump will put together a panel to evaluate the impact of every one of Obama's executive orders with a clear recession of the most damaging ones first.

I would like to see President Trump halt all immigration for at least two whole years.

Of course I want the work on Trump's Wall to begin as fast as possible.

[Common]

That comment speaks for itself.

The left believes the principles this nation were founded upon are not worth protecting.

Only if they benefit the left. Flaming left wingers that exaggerate blame and lie everytime they open their mouths because they dont have responses that make sense, have turned me off

[maineman]

GWB was/is an Establishment Republican, a big government liberal. My preference is for the next president, President Trump, to state that we are going to return to a Constitutionally limited federal government. I would like to see a plan to gradually reduce every one of the independent agencies beginning with an across the board 10% real budget cut for every non-Constitutional agency. I would like to see a targeted executive order reversing Obama's unconstitutional executive orders. I hope that President Trump will put together a panel to evaluate the impact of every one of Obama's executive orders with a clear recession of the most damaging ones first.

I would like to see President Trump halt all immigration for at least two whole years.

Of course I want the work on Trump's Wall to begin as fast as possible.

you didn't answer my question.... to what era would you have Trump RESTORE us to?

Or... are you suggesting - God forbid! - that Trump wants to TRANSFORM America????
Tahuyaman tells us that only god hating marxist muslim Kenyan Manchurian candidates who hate America and all it stands for want to TRANSFORM it! Surely Trump wouldn't do THAT, would he????

[MisterVeritis]

you didn't answer my question.... to what era would you have Trump RESTORE us to?
I answered your question earlier. It is not based on time or eras. I clearly answered what I hope for in restoration. Step one is to end Obama's lawlessness.


Or... are you suggesting - God forbid! - that Trump wants to TRANSFORM America????
@Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) tells us that only god hating marxist muslim Kenyan Manchurian candidates who hate America and all it stands for want to TRANSFORM it! Surely Trump wouldn't do THAT, would he????
The nation has been transformed. And yes, it took the Marxist, Islamofascist supporter two terms to do his enormous damage. Barack Hussein O executed a coup. He and his supporters have greatly damaged the nation. It must be restored.

[maineman]

so.... restoring it to pre-Obama (i.e. the Dubya era) would be great, eh?

you understand that the very word "restore" implies that you are returning it to something it was previously. You ought to be able to delineate what it is you want it restored TO.

[MisterVeritis]

so.... restoring it to pre-Obama (i.e. the Dubya era) would be great, eh?
I had heard once that time becomes less important to us as we grow older.


you understand that the very word "restore" implies that you are returning it to something it was previously. You ought to be able to delineate what it is you want it restored TO.
Obama's damage, while substantial, was only the latest step in demolishing the citizenry by overthrowing the Constitution, eliminating our borders, and degrading our culture. Restoration is to a Constitutionally-limited government.

Please do try to read my messages prior to responding to them. Here, let me help:

1) My preference is for the next president, President Trump, to state that we are going to return to a Constitutionally limited federal government.
1a) I would like to see a plan to gradually reduce every one of the independent agencies beginning with an across the board 10% real budget cut for every non-Constitutional agency.
1b) I would like to see a targeted executive order reversing Obama's unconstitutional executive orders. I hope that President Trump will put together a panel to evaluate the impact of every one of Obama's executive orders with a clear recession of the most damaging ones first.

2) I would like to see President Trump halt all immigration for at least two whole years.

3) Of course, I want the work on Trump's Wall to begin as fast as possible.

[maineman]

I had heard once that time becomes less important to us as we grow older.


Obama's damage, while substantial, was only the latest step in demolishing the citizenry by overthrowing the Constitution, eliminating our borders, and degrading our culture. Restoration is to a Constitutionally-limited government.

Please do try to read my messages prior to responding to them.

so... you still can't answer my question: if Obama is the latest step... you must have some "first step" that you want to "restore" America to the time immediately preceding it. If you want to restore America... tell me the former America you want to restore it to.

[MisterVeritis]

so... you still can't answer my question: if Obama is the latest step... you must have some "first step" that you want to "restore" America to the time immediately preceding it. If you want to restore America... tell me the former America you want to restore it to.

But, I repeat myself...

Obama's damage, while substantial, was only the latest step in demolishing the citizenry by overthrowing the Constitution, eliminating our borders, and degrading our culture. Restoration is to a Constitutionally-limited government.

Please do try to read my messages prior to responding to them. Here, let me help:

1) My preference is for the next president, President Trump, to state that we are going to return to a Constitutionally limited federal government.
1a) I would like to see a plan to gradually reduce every one of the independent agencies beginning with an across the board 10% real budget cut for every non-Constitutional agency.
1b) I would like to see a targeted executive order reversing Obama's unconstitutional executive orders. I hope that President Trump will put together a panel to evaluate the impact of every one of Obama's executive orders with a clear recession of the most damaging ones first.

2) I would like to see President Trump halt all immigration for at least two whole years.

3) Of course, I want the work on Trump's Wall to begin as fast as possible.

[maineman]

don't use the word "restore" if you don't know what it means.

[MisterVeritis]

don't use the word "restore" if you don't know what it means.
I am very comfortable to "restore". Had you taken your oath to support and defend the Constitution from its foreign and domestic enemies seriously you, too, would be comfortable with "restore".

[Tahuyaman]

That comment speaks for itself.

The left believes the principles this nation were founded upon are not worth protecting.


you just make $#@! up.

.

I didn't make up anything. I just commented on your own statement.

[Tahuyaman]

don't use the word "restore" if you don't know what it means.

It appears that you are the one confused as to the definition of certain words. Restoration does not mean transformation.

[Tahuyaman]

so.... restoring it to pre-Obama (i.e. the Dubya era) would be great, eh?

you understand that the very word "restore" implies that you are returning it to something it was previously. You ought to be able to delineate what it is you want it restored TO.

maineman likes to make assumption and parse words. That's what he does.

[Tahuyaman]

But, I repeat myself...
.

You can repeat yourself until you are blue in the face. He's going to assume what he wants to assume. It's not going to have anything to do with your actual comments.

[Tahuyaman]

@Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) tells us that only god hating marxist muslim Kenyan Manchurian candidates who hate America and all it stands for want to TRANSFORM it! ...

Can you show he where I ever said that?

So, don't ever claim that I make shit up. I only comment on your actual statements.

[maineman]

Can you show he where I ever said that?

So, don't ever claim that I make shit up. I only comment on your actual statements.

didn't you say that wanting to transform America was synonymous with hating our country and the principles upon which it was founded? Please realize I may have an adjective out of place from your original statement as the above is only a paraphrase but isn't that pretty close to capturing your feelings about the word "transform"?

[maineman]

It appears that you are the one confused as to the definition of certain words. Restoration does not mean transformation.

and I never suggested it did. What restoration DOES mean is restoring something to some past state of being. Like restoring a 57 Chevy means restoring it so it looks like it did in 1957. MrV wants to restore America... I am trying - quite unsuccessfully - to get him to tell me what point in America's life is he aiming to restore us TO?

Try to keep up here, or leave the discussion to those who are in it, and quit sniping like a little kid from the peanut gallery.

[maineman]

I didn't make up anything. I just commented on your own statement.

I said that the principles this nation was founded on are not worth protecting? Please show me that statement.

[maineman]

I am very comfortable to "restore". Had you taken your oath to support and defend the Constitution from its foreign and domestic enemies seriously you, too, would be comfortable with "restore".

restore to what point? Do you want to restore America to the way it was in 1948? 1918? 1789? When? At what point in history was America a country you feel that we should restore ourselves to?

[Tahuyaman]

didn't you say that wanting to transform America was synonymous with hating our country and the principles upon which it was founded? Please realize I may have an adjective out of place from your original statement as the above is only a paraphrase but isn't that pretty close to capturing your feelings about the word "transform"?

I said that if one wants to transform the nation, he or she must disapprove of the principles this nation was founded upon. That stands to reason.

I guess you can't refute that in a rational manner, so you spin off into your default position of making assumptions and leveling tired insults.

[MisterVeritis]

and I never suggested it did. What restoration DOES mean is restoring something to some past state of being. Like restoring a 57 Chevy means restoring it so it looks like it did in 1957. MrV wants to restore America... I am trying - quite unsuccessfully - to get him to tell me what point in America's life is he aiming to restore us TO?

Try to keep up here, or leave the discussion to those who are in it, and quit sniping like a little kid from the peanut gallery.
One can do more than restore physical entities. We can restore the supreme position of the US Constitution. While that is apparently unimportant to you it means something significant to me.

[MisterVeritis]

restore to what point? Do you want to restore America to the way it was in 1948? 1918? 1789? When? At what point in history was America a country you feel that we should restore ourselves to?
I have come to solidly believe you are no fool.

But here you are.

[Tahuyaman]

One way we could start to restore America is to go back to an era where our leaders respected the constitutional restraints placed upon government.

[Tahuyaman]

If what Obama tore down wasn't worth restoring, why was tearing it down such a tragedy? ...


I said that the principles this nation was founded on are not worth protecting? Please show me that statement.

Explain that in your usual nonsensical way.

[maineman]

re·store
rəˈstôr/
verb
bring back (a previous right, practice, custom, or situation); reinstate.
"the government restored confidence in the housing market"
synonyms: reinstate, bring back, reinstitute, reimpose, reinstall, reestablish
"the aim to restore democracy"
antonyms: abolish
return (someone or something) to a former condition, place, or position.
"the effort to restore him to office isn't working"
repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition.
"the building has been lovingly restored"

quit tap dancing and just answer the fucking question. To what point do you wish to restore America? Before the abolition of slavery? Before universal suffrage? When?

[MisterVeritis]

re·store
rəˈstôr/
verb
bring back (a previous right, practice, custom, or situation); reinstate.
"the government restored confidence in the housing market"
synonyms: reinstate, bring back, reinstitute, reimpose, reinstall, reestablish
"the aim to restore democracy"
antonyms: abolish
return (someone or something) to a former condition, place, or position.
"the effort to restore him to office isn't working"
repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition.
"the building has been lovingly restored"

quit tap dancing and just answer the $#@!ing question. To what point do you wish to restore America? Before the abolition of slavery? Before universal suffrage? When?
Restore, as you have defined it fully supports my position.

[silvereyes]

It sounds like maineman loves America, but to give or transfer those feelings to the Muslim now in the White House is impossible, if he's listened to his words and seen what he's done.

Obama is not you or anyone here, he's who we all have been watching for several years. He has expressed clear dislike for America when talking and acting here and more so when in other countries most clearly in Muslim countries.

He hasn't been a friend to us and only the thin veil of pretence, for political reasons, exist between what is said and saying outright and honestly that he hates us, hates America.

You lost all credibility as soon as You said "Muslim in the White House."

That stupid shit needs to stop.

[maineman]

Explain that in your usual nonsensical way.

you seem incapable of following a conversation. MrV said he wanted to restore what Obama had torn down. If something were standing before Obama supposedly tore it down, it would make sense that the only thing that Obama COULD tear down would be what WAS standing when he got there. Right? What was standing before Obama? The answer to that is what George Bush left for him. That would make it reasonable to assume that MrV felt that the end of the Bush administration was a point worth restoring to. You then asked, "Where did MisterVeritis say that the Bush years were the good old days? Why would you assume that he meant that?" The first quote from me is in direct response to that. Please note the use of the word "if". If, as MrV said, Obama had torn something down that he wanted to restore, but, according to you, MrV did not think that the Bush years were worth restoring to, then clearly Obama didn't "tear down" anything that MrV felt worth restoring in the first place. Understanding the conditional nature of the word "if" is kind of critical to understanding that, and I realize that has you a bit confused. I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.

Psych! I'll never dumb it down for you! Get up to speed with the language beyond My Weekly Reader or fall behind. Your choice.

:rofl:

[silvereyes]

Blessings to you and yours

Yah. Fuck off. I'm tired of your shit.

[maineman]

Restore, as you have defined it fully supports my position.

now... just tell me when you'd like to bring us back to?

[maineman]

One way we could start to restore America is to go back to an era where our leaders respected the constitutional restraints placed upon government.

when was that?

I have certainly heard arguments made that Justice Marshall disrespected constitutional restraints in Marbury v. Madison.... would you like to go back further than THAT?

[Common]

re·store
rəˈstôr/
verb
bring back (a previous right, practice, custom, or situation); reinstate.
"the government restored confidence in the housing market"
synonyms: reinstate, bring back, reinstitute, reimpose, reinstall, reestablish
"the aim to restore democracy"
antonyms: abolish
return (someone or something) to a former condition, place, or position.
"the effort to restore him to office isn't working"
repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition.
"the building has been lovingly restored"

quit tap dancing and just answer the fucking question. To what point do you wish to restore America? Before the abolition of slavery? Before universal suffrage? When?

Before men could walk into womens bathrooms to when middleclass america had jobs, to when minimum wage workers had the opportunity to move up to a middleclass paying job.
The america where there were jobs with benefits and pensions in an america where the rich didnt suck everything out of the economy at the expense of workers.

I want the america back before the far left and the far right destroyed it

[MisterVeritis]

You lost all credibility as soon as You said "Muslim in the White House."

That stupid $#@! needs to stop.
Do you have a better formulation? How do you explain Obama's very strong support for Islam and Islamofascism? Why has he done all he can to ensure that Iran will have nuclear weapons and the ballistic missiles capable of delivering them. Why did Barack Hussein O ensure that the Mullahs in Tehran would have 150 billion more dollars to buy worldwide terrorism?

I believe Barack Hussein is wholly Islamic. Muslim, to the bone.

[MisterVeritis]

now... just tell me when you'd like to bring us back to?
You are stuck on a time rather than a condition. That is a personal problem.

[maineman]

Before men could walk into womens bathrooms to when middleclass america had jobs, to when minimum wage workers had the opportunity to move up to a middleclass paying job.
The america where there were jobs with benefits and pensions in an america where the rich didnt suck everything out of the economy at the expense of workers.

I want the america back before the far left and the far right destroyed it

give me a date in time you want Mr. Whoopee to set the way back machine to.

[maineman]

You are stuck on a time rather than a condition. That is a personal problem.

any condition that America has ever been in happened during a period of time.

[Tahuyaman]

Yah. $#@! off. I'm tired of your $#@!.

Still, bless your heart.

[MisterVeritis]

you seem incapable of following a conversation. MrV said he wanted to restore what Obama had torn down. If something were standing before Obama supposedly tore it down, it would make sense that the only thing that Obama COULD tear down would be what WAS standing when he got there. Right? What was standing before Obama? The answer to that is what George Bush left for him. That would make it reasonable to assume that MrV felt that the end of the Bush administration was a point worth restoring to. You then asked, "Where did @MisterVeritis (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1287) say that the Bush years were the good old days? Why would you assume that he meant that?" The first quote from me is in direct response to that. Please note the use of the word "if". If, as MrV said, Obama had torn something down that he wanted to restore, but, according to you, MrV did not think that the Bush years were worth restoring to, then clearly Obama didn't "tear down" anything that MrV felt worth restoring in the first place. Understanding the conditional nature of the word "if" is kind of critical to understanding that, and I realize that has you a bit confused. I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.

Psych! I'll never dumb it down for you! Get up to speed with the language beyond My Weekly Reader or fall behind. Your choice.

:rofl:
It is unfortunate that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution never meant anything to you. An idea, and the ideals of Constitutionally-limited government require restoration. I have made that very clear. Why does it cause you so much difficulty?

[Tahuyaman]

You lost all credibility as soon as You said "Muslim in the White House."

That stupid $#@! needs to stop.. Why would that be stupid? Would it make difference to you if was a Muslim or not?

[MisterVeritis]

any condition that America has ever been in happened during a period of time.
This is a personal problem.

[Tahuyaman]

you seem incapable of following a conversation. MrV said he wanted to restore what Obama had torn down. If I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.

Psych! I'll never dumb it down for you! Get up to speed with the language beyond My Weekly Reader or fall behind. Your choice.

:rofl:

First,I was not arguing his position. I was staing mine.

Second, can you support your views without the sophomoric insults? Besides, you're not very good at it in the first place.

[maineman]

not mine anymore... you're just a fucking tar baby about this.

[Tahuyaman]

It is unfortunate that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution never meant anything to you. An idea, and the ideals of Constitutionally-limited government require restoration. I have made that very clear. Why does it cause you so much difficulty?

His responses and defensive tone combined with the lame insults suggests that there's something about those two documents which he finds objectionable. Chances are he will never honestly disclose those objections.

[maineman]

First,I was not arguing his position. I was staing mine.


really?


Where did MisterVeritis say that the Bush years were the good old days? Why would you assume that he meant that?

It seems that you are assuming something which wasn't stated.

[Tahuyaman]

not mine anymore... you're just a $#@!ing tar baby about this.

There you go again. You just can't help yourself, can you?

[Tahuyaman]

really?

So, because I asked you to show evidence to back up one of your idiotic assumptions, I'm arguing his side?

[Common]

give me a date in time you want Mr. Whoopee to set the way back machine to.

You are one most the most evasive and dishonest posters of them all, if you believe half of what you spew you would need a straight jacket. I think youre just a hyper partisan that would say ANYTHING to uphold the testicles of the democrats.

[maineman]

His responses and defensive tone combined with the lame insults suggests that there's something about those two documents which he finds objectionable. Chances are he will never honestly disclose those objections. I am completely pleased with both of those documents. I especially love how the founders set the stage for continual improvement and transformation by stating that they were establishing a MORE perfect union and not the MOST perfect union.

[maineman]

You are one most the most evasive and dishonest posters of them all, if you believe half of what you spew you would need a straight jacket. I think youre just a hyper partisan that would say ANYTHING to uphold the testicles of the democrats.

why can't you guys just answer a simple fucking question? If you long for the good old days, just tell me when they were.

and this is your final warning. You impugn my integrity one more time and you go ignore.

[Tahuyaman]

I am completely pleased with both of those documents. I especially love how the founders set the stage for continual improvement and transformation by stating that they were establishing a MORE perfect union and not the MOST perfect union.

Lol.....

[maineman]

So, because I asked you to show evidence to back up one of your idiotic assumptions, I'm arguing his side?

I made no assumption. I asked him a simple question. If Obama tore something down, the thing he tore down was what was left to him by George Bush. You immediately stuck your nose up his ass like a good little sycophant.

[maineman]

Lol.....

what do you find amusing about that?

[Tahuyaman]

His responses and defensive tone combined with the lame insults suggests that there's something about those two documents which he finds objectionable. Chances are he will never honestly disclose those objections.

I should have included the word confrontational after defensive in the first sentence.

[Tahuyaman]

what do you find amusing about that?

I think iit's humorous that you can always find a way to attempt to weasel out of your comments. You would be a horrible politician. You'd be easy to pin down and discredit.

[Common]

why can't you guys just answer a simple fucking question? If you long for the good old days, just tell me when they were.

and this is your final warning. You impugn my integrity one more time and you go ignore.

I answered YOUR question directly and without sarcasm. You acknowledged it by being sarcastic, not to worry im sure ill get the warning for you.

You ask a question you get a direct answer and you just insult in return.

You are comepletely one sided maineman you are what they call a "RIGHT FIGHTER" you will fight knowing your wrong just to make yourself right because you refuse to face being wrong.

[MisterVeritis]

I am completely pleased with both of those documents. I especially love how the founders set the stage for continual improvement and transformation by stating that they were establishing a MORE perfect union and not the MOST perfect union.
Regrettably you do not understand the Constitution. It was not designed for transformation. This is why I cannot believe you have ever understood the Constitution, this nation, or your oath of office. Let's set that aside for a moment.

Here is Transformation. Obama promised to transform the fundamentals. He promised a thorough, dramatic change in the form of the United States. He was a coup plotter and we have undergone a coup.

Not only is Obama loathsome, so are his supporters.

trans·for·ma·tion
ˌtran(t)sfərˈmāSH(ə)n/
imnoun: transformation; plural noun: transformations

a thorough or dramatic change in form or appearance.
"its landscape has undergone a radical transformation"


synonyms:
change (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+change&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIHjAA), alteration (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+alteration&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIHzAA), mutation (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+mutation&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIIDAA), conversion (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+conversion&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIITAA), metamorphosis (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+metamorphosis&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIIjAA), transfiguration (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+transfiguration&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIIzAA), transmutation (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+transmutation&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIJDAA),sea change (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+sea+change&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIJTAA); More



a metamorphosis during the life cycle of an animal.
PHYSICS
the induced or spontaneous change of one element into another by a nuclear process.
MATHEMATICS LOGIC
a process by which one figure, expression, or function is converted into another that is equivalent in some important respect but is differently expressed or represented.
LINGUISTICS
a process by which an element in the underlying deep structure of a sentence is converted to an element in the surface structure.
BIOLOGY
the genetic alteration of a cell by introduction of extraneous DNA, especially by a plasmid.
BIOLOGY
the heritable modification of a cell from its normal state to a malignant state.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm going to move on and let maineman declare victory.

It's very important for him to believe he has won some sort of victory here. I'll let him have his self esteem enhancer today. Continued conversation is pointless.

[maineman]

I should have included the word confrontational after defensive in the first sentence.

You're the guy who mistakes wanting to transform something into a more perfect version as hating the original version. That's just Obama hatred working on ya...

that, and a really pathetic grasp of the nuances of the language.

[Tahuyaman]

I answered YOUR question directly and without sarcasm. You acknowledged it by being sarcastic,...
.

That's what you do when you have no substance to stand on.

[Tahuyaman]

You're the guy who mistakes wanting to transform something into a more perfect version as hating the original version. That's just Obama hatred working on ya...

that, and a really pathetic grasp of the nuances of the language.

More idiotic spewings from the king of sophomoric insults.

[maineman]

"a process by which one figure, expression, or function is converted into another that is equivalent in some important respect but is differently expressed or represented."

[maineman]

More idiotic spewings from the king of sophomoric insults.

you're the guy who don't understand transformation, not me.

you're the guy who laughs at "a more perfect union", not me.

[MisterVeritis]

"a process by which one figure, expression, or function is converted into another that is equivalent in some important respect but is differently expressed or represented."
That works for mathematics. Is Obama a mathematician? No. He is a loathsome, lying, Marxist, Islamofascism supporter.

Even the mathematical definition should cause alarm. By what authority can a president convert the United States "function" from one form to another? In every regard the Monster is truly a monster.

[Tahuyaman]

you're the guy who don't understand transformation, not me.

you're the guy who laughs at "a more perfect union", not me.

you don't know the difference between transformation and restoration.

UNCLE......... I give up.

[maineman]

you don't know the difference between transformation and restoration.

UNCLE......... I give up.

I know the difference completely. You want to restore America to some former days of glory.... you just can't quite define when those days were,

[maineman]

I answered YOUR question directly and without sarcasm.

Here was my question: "give me a date in time you want Mr. Whoopee to set the way back machine to."

Please show me the post where you gave me a date in time. I'll wait.

[Peter1469]

Do you have a better formulation? How do you explain Obama's very strong support for Islam and Islamofascism? Why has he done all he can to ensure that Iran will have nuclear weapons and the ballistic missiles capable of delivering them. Why did Barack Hussein O ensure that the Mullahs in Tehran would have 150 billion more dollars to buy worldwide terrorism?

I believe Barack Hussein is wholly Islamic. Muslim, to the bone.

He said he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

The Clinton operative disguised as a reporter tried to save him.

[maineman]

that is REALLY weak, Peter.... really weak. It is clear that he was talking about the republicans talking about him being a Muslim when he is not. "They want to talk about my muslim faith". Like... THEY want to talk about the puppies they say I drowned.

[Common Sense]

He said he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

The Clinton operative disguised as a reporter tried to save him.

That's pretty lame Peter. I didn't take you for one of those "special" folks.

[Peter1469]

that is REALLY weak, Peter.... really weak. It is clear that he was talking about the republicans talking about him being a Muslim when he is not. "They want to talk about my muslim faith". Like... THEY want to talk about the puppies they say I drowned.

My Muslim faith. It is clear to me.

It was also clear to the Clinton operative disguised as a reporter. He jumped in to "correct" Obama.

[Peter1469]

That's pretty lame Peter. I didn't take you for one of those "special" folks.

You covering up for Obama too?

[maineman]

My Muslim faith. It is clear to me.

It was also clear to the Clinton operative disguised as a reporter. He jumped in to "correct" Obama.

haters gonna hate.

I listened to the same tape as you and got a completely different interpretation. "THEY want to talk about my muslim faith" "THEY want to talk about my being born in Kenya" "THEY want to talk about the gay relationships they say I had in college." All of those sentences say to ME, that "THEY" are trying to create a false narrative.... and he was bemoaning that fact. For you... he's just a Muslim, Kenyan, Marxist Manchurian Candidate...

haters gonna hate.

[Peter1469]

haters gonna hate.

I listened to the same tape as you and got a completely different interpretation. "THEY want to talk about my muslim faith" "THEY want to talk about my being born in Kenya" "THEY want to talk about the gay relationships they say I had in college." All of those sentences say to ME, that "THEY" are trying to create a false narrative.... and he was bemoaning that fact. For you... he's just a Muslim, Kenyan, Marxist Manchurian Candidate...

haters gonna hate.


I don't hate Obama. And I don't tongue bathe him.

[MisterVeritis]

that is REALLY weak, Peter.... really weak. It is clear that he was talking about the republicans talking about him being a Muslim when he is not. "They want to talk about my muslim faith". Like... THEY want to talk about the puppies they say I drowned.
Try to watch while you mind is engaged. You will come to the opposite conclusion.

[Common Sense]

You covering up for Obama too?

LOL...have fun in the deep end.

Yeah, I'm a paid operative. Don't tell anyone. ;)

[Common]

I don't hate Obama. And I don't tongue bathe him.

Then to the left on here you hate him. I dont hate obama either I consider him a jerkoff

[texan]

Yet when they asked him about Hillary and her emails. Why didn't he say there was nothing there? Why didn't he say Hillary was innocent? Why wont he answer the question as to why he said Hillary was careless? :laugh:

Same reason he sticks his nose into local cases like Ferguson or TreyVon without a damn fact! He is a racial hack and a political hack, he has turned the DOJ into the same. Shameful!

AND BTW this is indisputable.

[Common]

He has never once offered condolences to a white police officers family who was killed on duty. Hes a racist and hes proved that.

[domer76]

I answered YOUR question directly and without sarcasm. You acknowledged it by being sarcastic, not to worry im sure ill get the warning for you.

You ask a question you get a direct answer and you just insult in return.

You are comepletely one sided maineman you are what they call a "RIGHT FIGHTER" you will fight knowing your wrong just to make yourself right because you refuse to face being wrong.

When were the good old days?

[domer76]

Regrettably you do not understand the Constitution. It was not designed for transformation. This is why I cannot believe you have ever understood the Constitution, this nation, or your oath of office. Let's set that aside for a moment.

Here is Transformation. Obama promised to transform the fundamentals. He promised a thorough, dramatic change in the form of the United States. He was a coup plotter and we have undergone a coup.

Not only is Obama loathsome, so are his supporters.

trans·for·ma·tion
ˌtran(t)sfərˈmāSH(ə)n/
imnoun: transformation; plural noun: transformations

a thorough or dramatic change in form or appearance.
"its landscape has undergone a radical transformation"


synonyms:
change (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+change&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIHjAA), alteration (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+alteration&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIHzAA), mutation (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+mutation&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIIDAA), conversion (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+conversion&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIITAA), metamorphosis (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+metamorphosis&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIIjAA), transfiguration (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+transfiguration&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIIzAA), transmutation (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+transmutation&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIJDAA),sea change (https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1289&bih=778&q=define+sea+change&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiElJ3Byv3MAhVD8CYKHbJoA34Q_SoIJTAA); More



a metamorphosis during the life cycle of an animal.
PHYSICS
the induced or spontaneous change of one element into another by a nuclear process.
MATHEMATICS LOGIC
a process by which one figure, expression, or function is converted into another that is equivalent in some important respect but is differently expressed or represented.
LINGUISTICS
a process by which an element in the underlying deep structure of a sentence is converted to an element in the surface structure.
BIOLOGY
the genetic alteration of a cell by introduction of extraneous DNA, especially by a plasmid.
BIOLOGY
the heritable modification of a cell from its normal state to a malignant state.




Link on not designed for transformation? Ever hear of amendments?

[domer76]

He has never once offered condolences to a white police officers family who was killed on duty. Hes a racist and hes proved that.

Never? Show proof.

[MisterVeritis]

Link on not designed for transformation? Ever hear of amendments?
Amendments are not transformations. I believe you know that. Has any leftist proposed amendments and worked for them?

[Tahuyaman]

Amendments are not transformations. I believe you know that. Has any leftist proposed amendments and worked for them?

you're wasting your time. Maineman is in his world and reality is irrelevant.

[Tahuyaman]

I don't hate Obama. And I don't tongue bathe him.

I wish I would have thought of that one. Kudos to you.

[Tahuyaman]

haters gonna hate.

I listened to the same tape as you and got a completely different interpretation....

Pfft.... Ok.

[Tahuyaman]

He said he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

The Clinton operative disguised as a reporter tried to save him.

oops..... That was a slip of the tongue. He didn't meant it.

[Tahuyaman]

Here was my question: "give me a date in time you want Mr. Whoopee to set the way back machine to."....

Like I said, let's go back to a date in time when our elected officials respected the principles laid out in out constitution. That's an era in the past. Certainly not today.

[silvereyes]

Mr. V: which ones do you want gone?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

[silvereyes]

Like I said, let's go back to a date in time when our elected officials respected the principles laid out in out constitution. That's an era in the past. Certainly not today.

How far back (roughly) would you say that was?

[Tahuyaman]

How far back (roughly) would you say that was?

Thats a very good question.

I'd say that the complete disregard for the constitution by some started right after WWII ended. It's increased since then. Some may say it started earlier than that and I might agree, but it was an extreme minority fringe element then.

Today the anti-constitutional element represents the mainstream of the left wing point of view.

[silvereyes]

However, the presiedents since then are almost 50/50 as far as right and left go. To place the bulk of the blame on the left is ludicrous.

http://m.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/news/13-US-presidents-since-World-War-ll_12930068

[Tahuyaman]

However, the presiedents since then are almost 50/50 as far as right and left go. To place the bulk of the blame on the left is ludicrous.

http://m.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/news/13-US-presidents-since-World-War-ll_12930068

Presidents are only part of the equation. The left in genetal is quite contemptuous of the US constitution. More so than the right.

[Subdermal]

However, the presiedents since then are almost 50/50 as far as right and left go. To place the bulk of the blame on the left is ludicrous.

http://m.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/news/13-US-presidents-since-World-War-ll_12930068

It is?

Which ideology has controlled Congress the majority of the time since?

[silvereyes]

It is?

Which ideology has controlled Congress the majority of the time since?

Both. That's why laying a huge portion of blame on either side is ridiculous.

[silvereyes]

Presidents are only part of the equation. The left in genetal is quite contemptuous of the US constitution. More so than the right.

Sigh. I'm getting weary of that pretentious bullshit claim. I would ask you to prove that but it's pure opinion.

[silvereyes]

See y'all tomorrow. I've got to work in the AM and I had a long day at work today...I'm tired. 'Night guys.

[maineman]

It is?

Which ideology has controlled Congress the majority of the time since?
And those democratic congresses overrode scores of republican presidential vetoes...

Oh wait... they didn't because the GOP presidents didn't veto very many bills at all even when they had the votes on their side to sustain it.

I guess they must have been complicit with those democrats by signing lots of bills into law that they apparently agreed with as much as the democrats did.

[maineman]

Presidents are only part of the equation. The left in genetal is quite contemptuous of the US constitution. More so than the right.what do genitals have to do with it?

[maineman]

Like I said, let's go back to a date in time when our elected officials respected the principles laid out in out constitution. That's an era in the past. Certainly not today.what date is that?

[Tahuyaman]

Sigh. I'm getting weary of that pretentious bull$#@! claim. I would ask you to prove that but it's pure opinion.

Can you dispute it other than just saying that I'm wrong?

[Tahuyaman]

what date is that?


Now be honest. Do you believe our current president and elected officials respect the restraints placed upon government by the US Constitution?

[Tahuyaman]

I'm sure that there was opposition to the constitution even st the time it was ratified. Of course, that opposition was not representative of anything but a fringe element.

Today, we have a US president and a major political party which has no respect for our constitution. They believe that the constitution is an outdated document irrelevant to modern society. People who support this political faction ridicule those who believe the constitution places obstacles in the way of government seizing more power.

[maineman]

Now be honest. Do you believe our current president and elected officials respect the restraints placed upon government by the US Constitution?absolutely. And if they failed to do so, SCOTUS would keep them in line.

[maineman]

I'm sure that there was opposition to the constitution even st the time it was ratified. Of course, that opposition was not representative of anything but a fringe element.

Today, we have a US president and a major political party which has no respect for our constitution. They believe that the constitution is an outdated document irrelevant to modern society. People who support this political faction ridicule those who believe the constitution places obstacles in the way of government seizing more power.more lies.

[maineman]

Like I said, let's go back to a date in time when our elected officials respected the principles laid out in out constitution. That's an era in the past. Certainly not today.
To what time would you like to restore our nation. Quit tap dancing and give me a date.

[Tahuyaman]

What date do think is appropriate? When do you think we abandoned the principles laid out in the constitution? 1964? 1989? 2012?

the beginning might have been when the income tax was enacted.

[maineman]

What date do think is appropriate? When do you think we abandoned the principles laid out in the constitution? 1964? 1989? 2012?

the beginning might have been when the income tax was enacted.

I asked you.

[Tahuyaman]

I asked you.


Read my last sentence, nit.

[maineman]

Read my last sentence, nit.

"Might have been"?
:rofl:

[Peter1469]

How far back (roughly) would you say that was?

Coolidge.

[Peter1469]

Thats a very good question.

I'd say that the complete disregard for the constitution by some started right after WWII ended. It's increased since then. Some may say it started earlier than that and I might agree, but it was an extreme minority fringe element then.

Today the anti-constitutional element represents the mainstream of the left wing point of view.

FDR ignored the Constitution from day one. SCOTUS found all of his New Deal laws unconstitutional until his court-packing scheme frightened them. Then in 1937 they rolled over and played dead.

[Peter1469]

See y'all tomorrow. I've got to work in the AM and I had a long day at work today...I'm tired. 'Night guys.

Have fun at work!

[Mac-7]

absolutely. And if they failed to do so, SCOTUS would keep them in line.

Thats complete nonsense

the activist liberal judges on the supreme court are no more trustworthy than the other politicians in washington

[Peter1469]

absolutely. And if they failed to do so, SCOTUS would keep them in line.

SCOTUS has slapped down many of Obama's executive orders as unconstitutional..... :smiley:

[Peter1469]

What date do think is appropriate? When do you think we abandoned the principles laid out in the constitution? 1964? 1989? 2012?

the beginning might have been when the income tax was enacted.

1937

[maineman]

SCOTUS has slapped down many of Obama's executive orders as unconstitutional..... :smiley:

proof that the system is working just fine. SCOTUS is not allowing anybody to trample on the constitution.

[MisterVeritis]

I'm sure that there was opposition to the constitution even st the time it was ratified. Of course, that opposition was not representative of anything but a fringe element.

Today, we have a US president and a major political party which has no respect for our constitution. They believe that the constitution is an outdated document irrelevant to modern society. People who support this political faction ridicule those who believe the constitution places obstacles in the way of government seizing more power.
There was enormous opposition to the Constitution during the ratification period. The people opposed, were the "Anti-Federalists". In many of their arguments they were right. What they saw has come to pass. The tiny, limited, tightly constrained Federal government has become a ravening beast. It has devoured the states and the civil society. It has become totalitarian.

The Antifederalists were, in fact the real federalists.

[Tahuyaman]

FDR ignored the Constitution from day one. SCOTUS found all of his New Deal laws unconstitutional until his court-packing scheme frightened them. Then in 1937 they rolled over and played dead.
maineman should take lessons from you on how to respond to a comment.

[Tahuyaman]

proof that the system is working just fine. SCOTUS is not allowing anybody to trample on the constitution.

except for the times they trample on the constitution, or simply ignore it and use European law as a precedent.

[maineman]

FDR ignored the Constitution from day one. SCOTUS found all of his New Deal laws unconstitutional until his court-packing scheme frightened them. Then in 1937 they rolled over and played dead.

do you have any evidence that SCOTUS, under Chief Justice Hughes, was actually "frightened" of FDR? The court packing bill was doomed by democrats in congress. Later, Chief Justice Rehnquist would say: As former Chief Justice William Rehnquist observed:

"President Roosevelt lost the Court-packing battle, but he won the war for control of the Supreme Court ... not by any novel legislation, but by serving in office for more than twelve years, and appointing eight of the nine Justices of the Court. In this way the Constitution provides for ultimate responsibility of the Court to the political branches of government. [Yet] it was the United States Senate - a political body if there ever was one - who stepped in and saved the independence of the judiciary ... in Franklin Roosevelt's Court-packing plan in 1937."

The court wasn't frightened at all, imo, they were just old, and as they died/retired, FDR replaced them. That's how the system is supposed to work.

[maineman]

except for the times they trample on the constitution, or simply ignore it and use European law as a precedent.

who says that international law cannot be used as precedent? and can you give me the specific cases you feel that SCOTUS "trampled" on the constitution?

[Tahuyaman]

who says that international law cannot be used as precedent? and can you give me the specific cases you feel that SCOTUS "trampled" on the constitution?

The US constitution is supposed to be the judge, not a foreign court.

See, this is the problem. The hard left has no idea what the constitution is all about. They don't believe that obstacles should be placed in the way of government taking more power away from the people.

I'll bet some of those people would not object to repealing the constitution completely and creating a one world government with total authority over all.

[silvereyes]

Coolidge.

See? Honesty finally. Blaming allllll this on Obama Is what irritates me. No, you didn't...I'm just commenting on that because that's what I'm tired of.

[silvereyes]

Have fun at work!

Thanks...Memorial Day weekend. I'll be busy like yesterday. People acted like They had never seen hotdogs, cheese, or lemonade before.

[Peter1469]

do you have any evidence that SCOTUS, under Chief Justice Hughes, was actually "frightened" of FDR? The court packing bill was doomed by democrats in congress. Later, Chief Justice Rehnquist would say: As former Chief Justice William Rehnquist observed:

"President Roosevelt lost the Court-packing battle, but he won the war for control of the Supreme Court ... not by any novel legislation, but by serving in office for more than twelve years, and appointing eight of the nine Justices of the Court. In this way the Constitution provides for ultimate responsibility of the Court to the political branches of government. [Yet] it was the United States Senate - a political body if there ever was one - who stepped in and saved the independence of the judiciary ... in Franklin Roosevelt's Court-packing plan in 1937."

The court wasn't frightened at all, imo, they were just old, and as they died/retired, FDR replaced them. That's how the system is supposed to work.

Circumstantial evidence. SCOTUS found most if not all New Deal legislation unconstitutional prior to the court packing scheme. Then they flip flopped in 1937 and let it all slide. If you have another explanation I would like to hear it.

[Peter1469]

Thanks...Memorial Day weekend. I'll be busy like yesterday. People acted like They had never seen hotdogs, cheese, or lemonade before.

or beer....

[silvereyes]

or beer....

Funnily enough...we do sample beer on Saturdays. Lol. Yesterday she handed out Mich Ultra and Corona. *gag*

[MisterVeritis]

Mr. V: which ones do you want gone?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders
dI thought I made it clear that President Trump will need to appoint a review board to examine the impacts of each one. Then rescind the unconstitutional ones where Obama create or modified laws. Next, rescind the ones that have negative economic impacts.

[silvereyes]

I thought I made it clear that President Trump will need to appoint a review board to examine the impacts of each one. Then rescind the unconstitutional ones where Obama create or modified laws. Next, rescind the ones that have negative economic impacts.

Oh no. No wiggling. Which ones do you think are unconstitional?

[MisterVeritis]

proof that the system is working just fine. SCOTUS is not allowing anybody to trample on the constitution.
Perhaps the supremes view it as their job to trample on the Constitution.

The "system" is not working fine. The federal government recognizes no effective limits to its power.

[MisterVeritis]

who says that international law cannot be used as precedent? and can you give me the specific cases you feel that SCOTUS "trampled" on the constitution?
This is just dumb. You do not understand the Constitution you swore an oath to support and defend.

[Tahuyaman]

See? Honesty finally. Blaming allllll this on Obama Is what irritates me. No, you didn't...I'm just commenting on that because that's what I'm tired of.


I haven't seen anyone blame only Obama. I see people blaming those who ignore, violate or abuse our constitutionally protected principles, including Obama.

There are more people who excuse or simply ignore and deny Obama's obvious disregard of those constitutional principles.

I'll bet your response wii be a perfect example of that, if it's not a foul rant.

[Tahuyaman]

This is just dumb. You do not understand the Constitution you swore an oath to support and defend.

He proved my point perfectly. I was shocked that he had the courage to admit his view.

Its absolutely incredible to see someone who considers himself knowledgable on the issues supporting the idea of using European law to determine whether our laws pass constitutional muster.

[MisterVeritis]

Then rescind the unconstitutional ones where Obama created or modified laws.

Oh no. No wiggling. Which ones do you think are unconstitutional?
Silly girl. Why do you keep asking me questions I have already answered?

[maineman]

The US constitution is supposed to be the judge, not a foreign court.

See, this is the problem. The hard left has no idea what the constitution is all about. They don't believe that obstacles should be placed in the way of government taking more power away from the people.

I'll bet some of those people would not object to repealing the constitution completely and creating a one world government with total authority over all.

supposed? says who? Does it specifically forbid justices from referring to other jurisdictions for guidance? yes or no

[maineman]

Circumstantial evidence. SCOTUS found most if not all New Deal legislation unconstitutional prior to the court packing scheme. Then they flip flopped in 1937 and let it all slide. If you have another explanation I would like to hear it.

turnover.

With the retirement of Justice Willis Van Devanter, the Court's composition began to move solidly in support of Roosevelt's legislative agenda. By the end of 1941, following the deaths of Justices Benjamin Cardozo (1938) and Pierce Butler (1939), and the retirements of Van Devanter (1937), George Sutherland (1938), Louis Brandeis (1939), James Clark McReynolds (1941), and Charles Evans Hughes (1941), only two Justices (former Associate Justice, by then promoted to Chief Justice, Harlan Fiske Stone, and Associate Justice Owen Roberts) remained from the Court Roosevelt inherited in 1933.

[MisterVeritis]

supposed? says who? Does it specifically forbid justices from referring to other jurisdictions for guidance? yes or no
You do not understand the Constitution you swore an oath to defend. Why do you seek ways to go around the Constitution?

[Tahuyaman]

supposed? says who? Does it specifically forbid justices from referring to other jurisdictions for guidance? yes or no


Anyone who can ask why US laws should not use european law as a precedent is.....


Actually, I don't know what would motivate someone to ask that.

[Tahuyaman]

You do not understand the Constitution you swore an oath to defend. Why do you seek ways to go around the Constitution?

Obviously some people take an oath and claim to swear by it, but they just mouth the words. They don't think about what that oath means.

The idea that European law should be a precedent for whether or not an American passes constitutional muster, is as a minimum..... quite perplexing.

I guess some people believe that a US law can not be judged unconstitutional if another nation enacts that same law?

[maineman]

Anyone who can ask why US laws should not use european law as a precedent is.....


Actually, I don't know what would motivate someone to ask that.

so... you cannot answer the question. Why not just say so.

Let me ask again... is SCOTUS precluded in statute from considering other jurisdictions, such as British common law, for example, when formulating an opinion? yes or no

you'd think if it were such a heinous offense, they would be forbidden from doing so.

[Tahuyaman]

The question is so stupid, it defies an answer. It's extraordinarily stupid.

I guess we need to abolish the Supreme Court and hand jurisdiction for US law over the the World Court.

Ay Yi Yi......