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hanger4
06-02-2016, 10:51 AM
Dan Metcalfe teaches secrecy law at American University’s Washington College of Law. He served as Director of the Justice Department’s Office of Information and Privacy for more than 25 years, during which time he handled information-disclosure policy issues on dozens of Clinton Administration scandals. He’s a registered Democrat who says he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November “if she escapes indictment and manages to become the Democratic presidential nominee.”

Metcalfe believes, however, that Clinton will be indicted, and should be, over the email scandal. He explains why in this column;

"No, her self-serving email set-up was not “allowed” under the State Department’s rules. No, she was not “permitted” to use a personal email system exclusively as she did. No, what she did was hardly just a matter of her “personal convenience.” No, there is no evidence that any State Department attorney (other than perhaps Secretary Clinton herself) ever gave “legal approval” to any part of her special email system. No, everything she did was not “fully above board” or in compliance with the “letter and spirit of the rules,” far from it.

Yes, she was indeed required by the FRA to maintain all official emails in an official system for proper review, delineation, and retention upon her departure. Yes, her private server equipment was in fact the subject of multiple attempted intrusion attempts (i.e., hacks), including by foreign nations."

T]he most likely Democrat nominee, having just been seriously wounded by this week’s IG report, is manifestly vulnerable to a much greater wound in the form of a criminal indictment for misconduct that far transcends what the IG report dealt with. . . .

Former Secretary Clinton’s intent. . .is not what matters in this case. Rather, the applicable legal standard is a mere “gross negligence” one, as specified in the standard national security non-disclosure agreement that she signed and its underlying criminal statutes.

And when you marry that to the fact that (among other things) her admitted failure to use the State Department’s special classified email system for classified (or potentially classified) information constituted a clear violation of a criminal prohibition, you start worrying big-time. And this is especially so given that Ms. Clinton did not just violate such laws inadvertently or even only occasionally — she did so systemically. In other words, her very email scheme itself appears to have been a walking violation of criminal law, one with the mens rea prosecution standard readily met."

http://lawnewz.com/politics/hillary-clintons-emails-now-might-finally-take-her-down/

Safety
06-02-2016, 11:14 AM
Any day now...

TrueBlue
06-02-2016, 11:25 AM
Any day now...
Yeah right. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/big_standart/biggrin.gif Does anyone honestly think that if all of what the OP says is actually so that she, knowing about it, would have continued to use the e-mails and server? I think not. In fact, obviously not! But the fact is that there was nothing to prohibit her legally from using that server otherwise those in charge and higher up than she in law enforcement would have shut her down the moment they caught whiff about that. And they would have had to have known about it during her tenure as Secretary of State otherwise what type of oversight do we have in government? If they did nothing for the Four (4) Years that she worked there it's because there was nothing to get her on. Period. End of story.

nathanbforrest45
06-02-2016, 11:34 AM
holding my breath.

And by the way she won't be prosecuted not because she is innocent but because she is too powerful

Cigar
06-02-2016, 11:34 AM
... I think I can see it coming over the horizon :laugh:

nathanbforrest45
06-02-2016, 11:37 AM
... I think I can see it coming over the horizon :laugh:


Is it driving a Ferrari?

Cigar
06-02-2016, 11:40 AM
Is it driving a Ferrari?


Nope ... :grin:

14842

TrueBlue
06-02-2016, 11:40 AM
... I think I can see it coming over the horizon :laugh:


Is it driving a Ferrari?
No, it's driving a big black limo heading towards the White House next January and a blond-haired lady is sitting in it and waving to the crowd by the last name of Clinton! :)

Private Pickle
06-02-2016, 11:41 AM
No, it's driving a big black limo heading towards the White House next January and a blond-haired lady is sitting in it and waving to the crowd by the last name of Clinton! :)

Yeah....Hillary is a blonde....lol

hanger4
06-02-2016, 12:24 PM
Yeah right. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/big_standart/biggrin.gif Does anyone honestly think that if all of what the OP says is actually so that she, knowing about it, would have continued to use the e-mails and server? I think not. In fact, obviously not! But the fact is that there was nothing to prohibit her legally from using that server otherwise those in charge and higher up than she in law enforcement would have shut her down the moment they caught whiff about that. And they would have had to have known about it during her tenure as Secretary of State otherwise what type of oversight do we have in government? If they did nothing for the Four (4) Years that she worked there it's because there was nothing to get her on. Period. End of story.

So the Obama appointee that heads the OIG lied in the OIG report. Do tell TrueBlue.

Not mention the author of this OP.

Cigar
06-02-2016, 12:30 PM
No, it's driving a big black limo heading towards the White House next January and a blond-haired lady is sitting in it and waving to the crowd by the last name of Clinton! :)


Your Beast has Arrived :grin: ... in The Presidential Beast :grin:

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/20/50/05/4358491/3/960x540.jpg

AZ Jim
06-02-2016, 12:38 PM
hanger4, please hold your breath!

Quicksilver
06-02-2016, 12:47 PM
I'm sure this Email obsession has made it to the DSM-5 by now..

http://pro.psychcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/dsm-5.png

Cigar
06-02-2016, 12:58 PM
I'm sure this Email obsession has made it to the DSM-5 by now..

http://pro.psychcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/dsm-5.png


This is really going to hit them Hard :grin:

PolWatch
06-02-2016, 01:13 PM
Cliches & fables are repeated because they usually contain a kernel of truth. Those who spent the last decade or so dreaming up things to investigate for political mud pies are learning the hard way about the little boy who cried WOLF too many times.

Is she guilty? Who knows? The sad truth is no one is listening or even cares very much (except for those who keep posting articles that promise its gonna happen any day now). Another cliche: hope springs eternal.

Cigar
06-02-2016, 01:16 PM
Can I have a show of Hands ... who here has been hurt by Hillary Clinton's Emails? :grin:

Don't be shy :laugh:

hanger4
06-02-2016, 01:24 PM
Cliches & fables are repeated because they usually contain a kernel of truth. Those who spent the last decade or so dreaming up things to investigate for political mud pies are learning the hard way about the little boy who cried WOLF too many times.

Is she guilty? Who knows? The sad truth is no one is listening or even cares very much (except for those who keep posting articles that promise its gonna happen any day now). Another cliche: hope springs eternal.

The only ones not listening are the Hill-bots and they're in denial. They even deny Obama's head appointee to the OIG.

Cigar
06-02-2016, 01:27 PM
The only ones not listening are the Hill-bots and they're in denial. They even deny Obama's head appointee to the OIG.


:3some: I'm surprised you guys aren't bone dry, Red and Raw by now. :laugh:

nathanbforrest45
06-02-2016, 01:41 PM
Nope ... :grin:

14842

If it ain't red and it ain't a Ferrari it ain't sh!t

nathanbforrest45
06-02-2016, 01:42 PM
No, it's driving a big black limo heading towards the White House next January and a blond-haired lady is sitting in it and waving to the crowd by the last name of Clinton! :)


Is the entire crowd named Clinton? That would be rather odd don't you think?

nathanbforrest45
06-02-2016, 01:45 PM
Can I have a show of Hands ... who here has been hurt by Hillary Clinton's Emails? :grin:

Don't be shy :laugh:

Who knows what information was hacked that will affect us all in the future. Can I say I have or haven't been affected? I don't know yet. Do you know for an absolute fact your identify hasn't been stolen????

Tahuyaman
06-02-2016, 02:03 PM
Yeah right. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/big_standart/biggrin.gif Does anyone honestly think that if all of what the OP says is actually so that she, knowing about it, would have continued to use the e-mails and server? I think not. In fact, obviously not! But the fact is that there was nothing to prohibit her legally from using that server otherwise those in charge and higher up than she in law enforcement would have shut her down the moment they caught whiff about that. And they would have had to have known about it during her tenure as Secretary of State otherwise what type of oversight do we have in government? If they did nothing for the Four (4) Years that she worked there it's because there was nothing to get her on. Period. End of story.

There have always been regulations and laws pertaining to the handling of classified information and or government business. She knowingly and purposely ignored and violated those laws and regulations. Period.

MMC
06-02-2016, 02:03 PM
Yeah right. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/big_standart/biggrin.gif Does anyone honestly think that if all of what the OP says is actually so that she, knowing about it, would have continued to use the e-mails and server? I think not. In fact, obviously not! But the fact is that there was nothing to prohibit her legally from using that server otherwise those in charge and higher up than she in law enforcement would have shut her down the moment they caught whiff about that. And they would have had to have known about it during her tenure as Secretary of State otherwise what type of oversight do we have in government? If they did nothing for the Four (4) Years that she worked there it's because there was nothing to get her on. Period. End of story.


Well your....."I think not". Just doesn't pan out with reality. You can check out WAPO's link and the timeline.

So much for all that BS spewing out of Hillarys mouth and your.....Obviously not.




If She'd Been Aware of an Email Problem, She'd Have Addressed It......


Another day, another set of lies from Hillary Clinton's campaign about her national security-compromising (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/01/22/gates-odds-are-high-russia-china-iran-accessed-clintons-server-n2108570) and ongoing email scandal (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/03/29/devastating-nine-key-quotes-from-the-washington-posts-hillary-email-scandal-report-n2140038) -- previous dissembling and dishonesty about which was exposed in last week's bombshell (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/05/25/busted-scathing-ig-report-exposes-these-four-hillary-email-lies-n2168836) Inspector General report. Because mendacious assertions in earlier nothing-to-see-here memos have been blown to bits (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/08/13/damage-control-hillary-campaign-spinning-hard-on-email-investigation-revelations-n2038023) by the facts, Hillary's campaign chairman has been forced to roll out a fresh round of spin (https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/campaign-chair-clinton-knows-email-setup-was-a-mistake?utm_term=4ldqpia). As John Podesta attempts to telegraph some degree of contrition, two points stick out. First, he claims that if Hillary had been aware of any concerns about her email scheme, she would have nipped them in the bud. Via Chuck Ross (http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/30/clinton-campaign-has-a-brand-new-explanation-for-hillarys-email-setup/):

If only she'd known about those concerns at the time, "she would have taken steps to address them," he says, adding that she believed she was following guidelines and precedent. This is false. The IG report states (https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/735489958119636992?ref_src=twsrc^tfw) that if Mrs. Clinton had bothered to seek permission for her scheme (which she wrongly described as "allowed (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/10/19/video-hillary-bursts-into-laughter-over-fbis-email-investigation-n2067589)" for months), she would have been denied. Why? Because her shockingly unsecure set-up (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/10/13/cia-officer-hillary-email-had-lethal-implications-n2064708) violated data security rules that were instituted to comply with federal law and safeguard state secrets. And on the "if she'd known" portion of Podesta's distortion, please direct your attention to this comprehensive Washington Post story (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-clintons-email-scandal-took-root/2016/03/27/ee301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html) chronicling the timeline of the scandal, which I summarized in a 12-point synopsis (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/03/29/devastating-nine-key-quotes-from-the-washington-posts-hillary-email-scandal-report-n2140038) in late March. Clinton and her chief of staff were alerted to the security risks from the earliest days of her tenure at State, dating back to a February 17, 2009 meeting at which the issue "came to a head," according to the Post. The key passage:

In early March, Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security Eric Boswell delivered a memo with the subject line “Use of Blackberries in Mahogany Row.” “Our review reaffirms our belief that the vulnerabilities and risks associated with the use of Blackberries in the Mahogany Row [redacted] considerably outweigh the convenience their use can add,” the memo said. He emphasized: “Any unclassified Blackberry is highly vulnerable in any setting to remotely and covertly monitoring conversations, retrieving e-mails, and exploiting calendars.” Nine days later, Clinton told Boswell that she had read his memo and “gets it,” according to an email sent by a senior diplomatic security official. “Her attention was drawn to the sentence that indicates (Diplomatic Security) have intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent trip to Asia,” the email said. But Clinton kept using her private BlackBerry — and the basement server.

She was made explicitly aware of "the concerns." She personally acknowledged those concerns. Then she proceeded to deliberately ignore them and continue her reckless conduct for the next three-plus years, as she trafficked thousands of classified emails (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/03/02/hillary-emails-final-score-n2126822) -- including many dozens that contained secret, top secret and beyond top secret material -- through her unsecure server. Furthermore, this issue flared up again two years later, when Sec. Clinton was specifically admonished (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/11/09/memo-hillary-warned-of-repeated-hack-attempts-against-us-officials-private-emails-in-2011-n2077696) that foreign hackers were attempting to penetrate US government secrets by targeting top officials'...personal email accounts. Even as she instructed her subordinates (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/state-department-email-rule-hillary-clinton-115804) to scrupulously follow email regulations, and punished noncompliance, (http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/05/hillarys-state-dept-forced-the-resignation-of-an-ambassador-for-using-private-e-mail/) she disregarded them herself. The second point, flagged by John Sexton (http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/31/what-clintons-campaign-chairman-wrote-over-the-weekend-doesnt-jibe-with-what-clinton-said-at-the-un/), pertains to her misleading excuse-making on the issue of her belated and incomplete fulfillment of records requests (and as a reminder, Mrs. Clinton and her top echelon of associates refused to cooperate (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/05/25/busted-scathing-ig-report-exposes-these-four-hillary-email-lies-n2168836) with the recently-concluded IG investigation):

In other words, Podesta now says that Mrs. Clinton didn't realize that the overwhelming bulk of her emails were not automatically archived until she was informed of that fact in mid-2014 -- after which she and her attorneys turned over thousands of pages of emails, but not before unilaterally deleting 32,000 messages with no oversight, some of which (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/25/uh-oh-officials-discover-work-related-e-mails-between-hillary-and-david-petraeus-that-she-never-turned-over/) have since been proven to be work-related (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/07/02/five-lies-about-hillarys-secret-emails-n2020062). But if Hillary was finally disabused of her misconception in 2014, why did she keep leaning so heavily on that very same misleading assertion during her March 2015 press conference (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/03/10/video-count-hillarys-lies-n2131447)? One final note: While, we're at it, it's time to drive another stake (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/05/31/former-state-department-ig-no-hillary-didnt-use-private-email-like-powell-or-rice-n2171349) through the heart of the inaccurate "Powell did it too (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/02/05/no-the-powell-and-condi-classified-emails-story-is-not-a-gamechanger-n2114842)" talking point. The Clinton campaign has lied at every turn as this scandal has unfolded, and it appears as though previous lies are now complicating and undermining current lies......snip~

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/63784-New-Hillary-Camp-Lies



What happened.....why aren't you able to keep up with reality or do you always look to make shit up on the fly?

Tahuyaman
06-02-2016, 02:55 PM
Podesta now says that Mrs. Clinton didn't realize that the overwhelming bulk of her emails were not automatically archived until she was informed of that fact in mid-2014 --

I don't believe that. Of course she knew her emails were archived. Unless she's stupid.

MMC
06-02-2016, 03:05 PM
I don't believe that. Of course she knew her emails were archived. Unless she's stupid.

Or unless she knew what she was doing with not turning them over for 2 years. :laugh:

Oh, from the leftness. Opposing Views. :evil:



Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton broke several government policies and did not comply with the Federal Records Act when she used a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State, according to a State Department watchdog's report.

The Office of the Inspector General's report, which was released to lawmakers on May 25, comes at a time when Clinton is trying to wrap up the Democratic nomination against Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont. However, she continues to face problems related to the email controversy, including an ongoing FBI investigation that has yet to conclude.

The report said that Clinton should have printed and saved her emails during her four years in office or immediately surrendered all work-related emails when she stepped down in 2013, the Washington Post notes. Instead, Clinton kept the records for nearly two years after leaving office.

“At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act,” the report stated, according to Politico.

In addition, the report stated that Clinton did not seek approval to have her entire correspondence put on a private server set up in her home in Chappaqua, New York. And officials told the inspector general's office that they "did not - and would not - approve her exclusive reliance on a personal email account to conduct Department business" because of "security risks," Reuters reported.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...ot-appropriate (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/state-dept-inspector-general-report-clinton-email-setup-not-appropriate)

Tahuyaman
06-02-2016, 03:07 PM
She believes only the serfs are required to follow the law.

The Xl
06-02-2016, 03:10 PM
A person of lesser status would be in prison, she's running for president. This country's idea of justice is a joke.

MMC
06-02-2016, 03:15 PM
She believes only the serfs are required to follow the law.

Kind of like the leftness denying what this State Dept IG in house watchdog report Found. Wait until the leftness finds out that Judge Sullivan will now get that State Dept IG's Report.


Then it will be a BO peep appointed Judge and State Dept IG that lowered the Boom on Hillary. http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif

Tahuyaman
06-02-2016, 03:20 PM
The Obama hyper partisan justice department will let her skate.

Safety
06-02-2016, 03:21 PM
No, it's driving a big black limo heading towards the White House next January and a blond-haired lady is sitting in it and waving to the crowd by the last name of Clinton! :)

She helping the Obama's move, or is Obama going to be her new chauffeur?

Safety
06-02-2016, 03:22 PM
Yeah....Hillary is a blonde....lol

Did you verify? :cry:

MMC
06-02-2016, 03:34 PM
She helping the Obama's move, or is Obama going to be her new chauffeur?

It would have to be BO. Valerie Jarrett and MO can't stand Hillary.

Private Pickle
06-02-2016, 03:36 PM
Did you verify? :cry:

Yes...which is why I'm blind now...

MMC
06-02-2016, 03:49 PM
Yes...which is why I'm blind now...

:shocked: ..... http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

Peter1469
06-02-2016, 04:58 PM
Team Clinton hard at work:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6181/6114426722_6656fc0b58_m.jpg