View Full Version : Remember this Date: Monday June 6, 2016
Cigar
06-07-2016, 07:18 AM
The Date Donald Trump Officially Sunk The GOP and The Republican Party
The Entire World is Laughing their ass off at Donald J Trump :smiley_ROFLMAO:
“This is the most un-American thing from a politician since Joe McCarthy,”
Mr. Graham said. “If anybody was looking for an off-ramp, this is probably it,” he added.
“There’ll come a time when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary.”
http://www.shallownation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-03_0917-400.jpg
Donald Trump is saying: ""Am I racist for saying the Mexican judge is biased against me in the Trump University suit?
Are you listening to yourself, John? . . . Just the opposite! . . . It's like I just said that rock is blue. . . . If that rock is blue, no problem, right?. . . . Are you following this? . . . But then if someone comes along and says you're a racist because you said the rock is biased against you because it is blue, when that wasn't what I said at all, . . . that would make that someone else 'a racist,' wouldn't it? . . . I mean, John, use your noodle."
Safety
06-07-2016, 07:22 AM
LoL. Just lol.
Common
06-07-2016, 07:23 AM
Remember June 6th the day that the DNC finalized its swindle to give Hilly the nomination, the wife who supports a rapist and a clown that had sex in the oval office while his secretary covered for him, who lied to her and lied to the nation. They gave it to a woman who has committed fraud and perjury just like her husband. Who is universally hated by anyone that gets near her. No need to go furthers.
How did you trolling for nickles work out cigar, didnt even get two cents lol
Common
06-07-2016, 07:26 AM
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Whos yer momma !!!!!!
Cigar
06-07-2016, 07:29 AM
Remember June 6th the day that the DNC finalized its swindle to give Hilly the nomination, the wife who supports a rapist and a clown that had sex in the oval office while his secretary covered for him, who lied to her and lied to the nation. They gave it to a woman who has committed fraud and perjury just like her husband. Who is universally hated by anyone that gets near her. No need to go furthers.
How did you trolling for nickles work out cigar, didnt even get two cents lol
:laugh: Dude Donald Trump is the GOP Creation, stop looking for excuses.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 07:30 AM
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Whos yer momma !!!!!!
Quick ... Change The Subject :laugh:
hanger4
06-07-2016, 07:35 AM
Quick ... Change The Subject :laugh:
Remember D-Day: the Normandy Invasion.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 07:43 AM
Remember D-Day: the Normandy Invasion.
NO ... I was born ... how about you? :huh:
... and what does this have to do with the Thread?
Subdermal
06-07-2016, 07:44 AM
Histrionic Dems lying and mischaracterizing. How utterly desperate.
The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial.
Trump has a valid complaint, and the liberals are whiny biatches.
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 07:46 AM
It is official; Ceeeeegar no longer believes that all white jurists and juries can be biased against blacks or any race. Mark this day on your calendar for the next time the leftist hypocrites erupt with charges of racism when a white jurist prosecutes a black thug. :biglaugh:
zelmo1234
06-07-2016, 07:47 AM
:laugh: Dude Donald Trump is the GOP Creation, stop looking for excuses.
You are correct. Had the Establishment of the GOP followed through with their promises, Trump would not be the nominee.
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 07:47 AM
Histrionic Dems lying and mischaracterizing. How utterly desperate.
The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial.
Trump has a valid complaint, and the liberals are whiny biatches.
Leftists never concerned themselves with reality or the facts. After all, they are living testimony to the definition of hypocrites.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 07:55 AM
Leftists never concerned themselves with reality or the facts. After all, they are living testimony to the definition of hypocrites.
FACT = Donald Trump is The GOP Nominee
FACT = Hillary Clinton is The Democratic Nominee
Do you deny those FACTS?
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 07:58 AM
FACT = Donald Trump is The GOP Nominee
FACT = Hillary Clinton is The Democratic Nominee
Do you deny those FACTS?
FACT: The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial. Trump has a valid complaint
Do you deny those facts?
Do you also now believe that all white juries and white jurists are never racially biased against black thugs? I just need you race hustlers on the record that you no longer believe that jurists have any biases. :biglaugh:
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:03 AM
FACT: The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial. Trump has a valid complaint
Do you deny those facts?
Do you also now believe that all white juries and white jurists are never racially biased against black thugs? I just need you race hustlers on the record that you no longer believe that jurists have any biases. :biglaugh:
I love it when Cons repeat things they don't know about ... it proves they are stupid.
Do you know anything about La Raza and it's many factions? :laugh:
Common
06-07-2016, 08:03 AM
:laugh: Dude Donald Trump is the GOP Creation, stop looking for excuses.
Nope hes a creation of all the americans that have been screwed and abandoned and ignored by both parties. Anytime you want the truth just ask me, ill tell ya whether you like it or not
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:07 AM
Nope hes a creation of all the americans that have been screwed and abandoned and ignored by both parties. Anytime you want the truth just ask me, ill tell ya whether you like it or not
Welcome to the party, where have you been for the last 5 Century? In the Privilege Line :laugh:
Subdermal
06-07-2016, 08:19 AM
I love it when Cons repeat things they don't know about ... it proves they are stupid.
Do you know anything about La Raza and it's many factions? :laugh:
You are a pathetic simpering liar.
Tell us about the 'factions', liar.
The group is a leftist activist group who has already taken an anti-Trump stand. (http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/01/judge-presiding-over-trump-university-case-is-member-of-la-raza-lawyers-group/) By definition, a member of such a group cannot be a judge in a case involving someone they've already condemned. It is a conflict of interest, and - if Curiel had any integrity at all - he would have recused himself already.
That he hasn't is indicative of an activist agenda. This judge is ineligible.
Crepitus
06-07-2016, 08:31 AM
FACT = Donald Trump is The GOP Nominee
FACT = Hillary Clinton is The Democratic Nominee
Do you deny those FACTS?
Neither are actually the nominees. Both are presumptive. The GOP could still have a rush of brains to the head and make a change, and Clinton could still get hit with the indictment bus.
So I don't actually think much of your "facts" because they aren't.
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 08:37 AM
The Date Donald Trump Officially Sunk The GOP and The Republican Party
If we accept that Trump is not allowed to claim that a judge is biased against him -- based on race -- then we must also accept that no Caucasian judge is ever biased against a minority, based on race.
There are two sides to that coin.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:38 AM
Neither are actually the nominees. Both are presumptive. The GOP could still have a rush of brains to the head and make a change, and Clinton could still get hit with the indictment bus.
So I don't actually think much of your "facts" because they aren't.
Ok ... true ... Presumptive
But ALL The Polls have physically contacted The Supper Delegates and received their commitments.
True or untrue?
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 08:38 AM
:laugh: Dude Donald Trump is the GOP Creation, stop looking for excuses.
Not even close.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:39 AM
If we accept that Trump is not allowed to claim that a judge is biased against him -- based on race -- then we must also accept that no Caucasian judge is ever biased against a minority, based on race.
There are two sides to that coin.
:thumbsup20: Bing-Go ... Water on Flames
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:40 AM
Not even close.
Ok ... what was the GOP doing in 2007 when Birther Donald was running his mouth?
Where you wishing then that Trump would someday be your President?
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 08:42 AM
:thumbsup20: Bing-Go ... Water on Flames
Thank you for putting to rest once and for all the silly idea that more minorities are in prison based, at least partially, on judicial bias.
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 08:44 AM
Ok ... what was the GOP doing in 2007 when Birther Donald was running his mouth?
Where you wishing then that Trump would someday be your President?
Who knows? I haven't followed his moves. I do recall that the birther movement evolved out of Hillary's camp, however.
At that point were you wishing she would one day be your President?
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:49 AM
Who knows? I haven't followed his moves. I do recall that the birther movement evolved out of Hillary's camp, however.
At that point were you wishing she would one day be your President?
So it's The Democrats Fault :laugh:
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 08:52 AM
So it's The Democrats Fault :laugh:
In the sense that they ran a candidate that puts the GOP in the position of having to vote for someone they might not like in order to oppose a much worse candidate. But, on a personal level -- not so much.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 08:58 AM
In the sense that they ran a candidate that puts the GOP in the position of having to vote for someone they might not like in order to oppose a much worse candidate. But, on a personal level -- not so much.
They Candidate ARE the Candidates The American Public Voted for ... for both Parties Base.
JDubya
06-07-2016, 08:59 AM
FACT: The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial. Trump has a valid complaint
Do you deny those facts?
I deny them because they are false lies, not "facts".
You are a pathetic simpering liar.
Tell us about the 'factions', liar.
The group is a leftist activist group who has already taken an anti-Trump stand. (http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/01/judge-presiding-over-trump-university-case-is-member-of-la-raza-lawyers-group/) By definition, a member of such a group cannot be a judge in a case involving someone they've already condemned. It is a conflict of interest, and - if Curiel had any integrity at all - he would have recused himself already.
That he hasn't is indicative of an activist agenda. This judge is ineligible.
Neither of you know wtf you're talking about.
Which ‘La Raza’? Trump comments cause confusion over group's role (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-latinos-idUSKCN0YS2BV)
As evidence of what they say is Curiel's bias, Trump and some of his supporters have pointed to the judge's membership in La Raza Lawyers of San Diego, a local group for Hispanic lawyers that is affiliated with the Hispanic National Bar Association.
Some Trump supporters have incorrectly linked La Raza Lawyers to the National Council of La Raza, a 50-year-old civil rights group that has been strongly critical of Trump's proposals on immigration, as well as his idea to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the United States.
The NCLR's non-profit designation bars it from engaging in political campaigns, and the group's website describes it as a "nonpartisan voice for Latinos."
A conservative blog, GotNews.com, first noted Curiel's membership in the lawyer's group, which it identified simply as "La Raza," on May 31. A day later, another conservative website, The Daily Caller, made a link to the NCLR.
Typical right-wing bullshit.
Best case scenario is that they heard a common phrase in a foreign language that is used in the names of two different groups, and jumped to conclusions that they are the same thing without bothering to check the facts first.
Worst case scenario and probably more likely, is that whichever right-wing smear group floated the bullshit to begin with, did so knowing full well they are two different and unaffiliated groups.
Bullshit: DE-BUNKED.
Mark III
06-07-2016, 09:16 AM
Histrionic Dems lying and mischaracterizing. How utterly desperate.
The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial.
Trump has a valid complaint, and the liberals are whiny biatches.
Your ignorant comments are ever tiresome.
The Judge is tied to La Raza.
The lawyers group in San Diego that the judge belongs to is not the hispanic activist group you are thinking of. Try looking at a newspaper or news site sometime.
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 09:29 AM
They Candidate ARE the Candidates The American Public Voted for ... for both Parties Base.
That's the point.
Because the Democratic Party ran Hillary Clinton -- the GOP is forced to vote for a candidate they might not truly support -- just to keep a worse candidate from winning.
Unless something odd happens at one of the conventions -- we're stuck with either HRC or Trump.
Of those two -- HRC is far the worst choice, which is why GOPers will be out voting for Trump in a bid to stop her.
JDubya
06-07-2016, 09:48 AM
That's the point.
Because the Democratic Party ran Hillary Clinton -- the GOP is forced to vote for a candidate they might not truly support -- just to keep a worse candidate from winning.
Unless something odd happens at one of the conventions -- we're stuck with either HRC or Trump.
Of those two -- HRC is far the worst choice, which is why GOPers will be out voting for Trump in a bid to stop her.
Utter horse shit.
Hillary Clinton did not force Trump to enter the race and her presence did not force the majority of Republican primary voters to overwhelmingly choose Trump over all the rest of the clowns that he beat out for the GOP nomination.
Face it. Donald Trump is exactly the kind of political lightweight, obnoxious, blowhard windbag, bigoted carnival barking clown that the uneducated, no-class conservative American voters have been waiting for and have wanted for years.
He is the answer to right-wingers' prayers in every aspect of his persona except for the part about being electable.
He is yours. Own him.
zelmo1234
06-07-2016, 09:52 AM
Histrionic Dems lying and mischaracterizing. How utterly desperate.
The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial.
Trump has a valid complaint, and the liberals are whiny biatches.
He has a valid complaint, but should have thought before he spoke. He has said nothing wrong and nothing racists but he has to understand that the Democrats don't care about right and wrong, they never have they only care about power and they gain that by using the disguise of compassion
Cigar
06-07-2016, 09:54 AM
Utter horse $#@!.
Hillary Clinton did not force Trump to enter the race and her presence did not force the majority of Republican primary voters to overwhelmingly choose Trump over all the rest of the clowns that he beat out for the GOP nomination.
Face it. Donald Trump is exactly the kind of political lightweight, obnoxious, blowhard windbag, bigoted carnival barking clown that the uneducated, no-class conservative American voters have been waiting for and have wanted for years.
He is the answer to right-wingers' prayers in every aspect of his persona except for the part about being electable.
He is yours. Own him.
Please JDubya try not to be so hard on them ... they're embarrassed and they need a respectable way out, unfortunately there is none.
Safety
06-07-2016, 09:56 AM
Thank you for putting to rest once and for all the silly idea that more minorities are in prison based, at least partially, on judicial bias.
There you go conflating judicial bias with skin color and not the actions of the judge in question. There is only one person who says the race/ethnicity of a judge disqualifies them from adjudicating the case. That person is being supported by several here. Other cases you wish to try and compare to were cases where the judge made disparaging comments or used racial slurs, otherwise known as, their actions, that is what should have disqualified them from being a judge over the case, not simply because they were a certain color. Trump is the one trying to disqualify a judge because of their color, and you seem to support that....
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 09:58 AM
I love it when Cons repeat things they don't know about ... it proves they are stupid.
Do you know anything about La Raza and it's many factions? :laugh:
It is apparent who is stupid here:
FACT: The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial. Trump has a valid complaint
Do you deny those facts?
Do you also now believe that all white juries and white jurists are never racially biased against black thugs? I just need you race hustlers on the record that you no longer believe that jurists have any biases. :biglaugh:
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 09:59 AM
If we accept that Trump is not allowed to claim that a judge is biased against him -- based on race -- then we must also accept that no Caucasian judge is ever biased against a minority, based on race.
There are two sides to that coin.
Notice how Ceeegar ignores and avoids the OBVIOUS. ;)
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 10:00 AM
I deny them because they are false lies, not "facts".
Neither of you know wtf you're talking about.
Typical right-wing bull$#@!.
Best case scenario is that they heard a common phrase in a foreign language that is used in the names of two different groups, and jumped to conclusions that they are the same thing without bothering to check the facts first.
Worst case scenario and probably more likely, is that whichever right-wing smear group floated the bull$#@! to begin with, did so knowing full well they are two different and unaffiliated groups.
Bull$#@!: DE-BUNKED.
:biglaugh: ^Funny crap!!
Cigar
06-07-2016, 10:02 AM
If we accept that Trump is not allowed to claim that a judge is biased against him -- based on race -- then we must also accept that no Caucasian judge is ever biased against a minority, based on race.
There are two sides to that coin.
Can you please supply the factual evidence that The Judge did something Biased so that I and others can review?
I'll wait ...
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 10:02 AM
There you go conflating judicial bias with skin color and not the actions of the judge in question. There is only one person who says the race/ethnicity of a judge disqualifies them from adjudicating the case. That person is being supported by several here. Other cases you wish to try and compare to were cases where the judge made disparaging comments or used racial slurs, otherwise known as, their actions, that is what should have disqualified them from being a judge over the case, not simply because they were a certain color. Trump is the one trying to disqualify a judge because of their color, and you seem to support that....
Another massive pile of steaming leftist race hustling horse manure; for decades blacks have been bitching about white bias in juries and jurists.....stop the F'ing lying. Good lord, you cannot possibly type this crap without a tinge of embarrassment.
Crepitus
06-07-2016, 10:03 AM
Ok ... true ... Presumptive
But ALL The Polls have physically contacted The Supper Delegates and received their commitments.
True or untrue?
No idea.
zelmo1234
06-07-2016, 10:03 AM
Utter horse $#@!.
Hillary Clinton did not force Trump to enter the race and her presence did not force the majority of Republican primary voters to overwhelmingly choose Trump over all the rest of the clowns that he beat out for the GOP nomination.
Face it. Donald Trump is exactly the kind of political lightweight, obnoxious, blowhard windbag, bigoted carnival barking clown that the uneducated, no-class conservative American voters have been waiting for and have wanted for years.
He is the answer to right-wingers' prayers in every aspect of his persona except for the part about being electable.
He is yours. Own him.
Well, I think that you are right, Hillary Clinton did not have anything to do with Trump. That was caused by the GOP members that continued to lie to the base of their party. They got exactly what they deserve
But now that the DNC has stolen the people choice of Bernie Sanders, we are stuck with Hillary.
When comparing the 2, there is not a good choice. Hillary is a political failure, she does not have a success to point to . WE comparing the 2 on honesty, Trump looks like the Pope.
Next Conservatives are not where Trumps support lies, it never was, but the Democrats do not want to admit what the polls show and that is about 20% of the Democratic Voters, are supporting Trump. It appears that the Reagan Democrats Really like him. And the Conservatives now that Cruz and Walker are not available are supporting him, not because he is conservative, but because it sticks it to the GOP establishment, and that we like.
No this should have been the election for a Scott Walker to select and Rubio, or Cruz as a VP and likely turned the nation around securing congress and the WH for the next 12 to 16 years, but the lies of the Establishment just could not be over come.
As for owning Donald Trump. YES we do, and still we do not have to defend a candidate that allowed confidential Top Secret communications to be hacked, We do not have to support a candidate that willingly and knowingly allowed Americans to be murdered by terrorist when they could have been saved, We do not have to support a candidate that has openly lied to the American people time and time and time again, We do not have to support a candidate that went after women that were sexually assaulted by her Husband just to protect their political image, and we do not have to support a candidate that used their family charity to sell power and influence at the state department.
That would be the Democrats
Private Pickle
06-07-2016, 10:03 AM
The Date Donald Trump Officially Sunk The GOP and The Republican Party
The Entire World is Laughing their ass off at Donald J Trump :smiley_ROFLMAO:
“This is the most un-American thing from a politician since Joe McCarthy,”
Mr. Graham said. “If anybody was looking for an off-ramp, this is probably it,” he added.
“There’ll come a time when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary.”
http://www.shallownation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-03_0917-400.jpg
Donald Trump is saying: ""Am I racist for saying the Mexican judge is biased against me in the Trump University suit?
Are you listening to yourself, John? . . . Just the opposite! . . . It's like I just said that rock is blue. . . . If that rock is blue, no problem, right?. . . . Are you following this? . . . But then if someone comes along and says you're a racist because you said the rock is biased against you because it is blue, when that wasn't what I said at all, . . . that would make that someone else 'a racist,' wouldn't it? . . . I mean, John, use your noodle."
Instead I'll just remember the day as the anniversary of the Invasion of Normandy.
JDubya
06-07-2016, 10:03 AM
It is apparent who is stupid here:
FACT: The Judge is tied to La Raza; is a political activist leftist, and exposed his bias with his release of information pre-trial. Trump has a valid complaint
Do you deny those facts?
Do you also now believe that all white juries and white jurists are never racially biased against black thugs? I just need you race hustlers on the record that you no longer believe that jurists have any biases. :biglaugh:
Standard right-wing bullshit propaganda tactic.
When your lies are rebutted with facts, just keep on repeating the lie over and over and over and over and over, forever and ever.
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 10:05 AM
Standard right-wing bull$#@! propaganda tactic.
When your lies are rebutted with facts, just keep on repeating the lie over and over and over and over and over, forever and ever.
:biglaugh: ^The definition of denial! LOL
Cigar
06-07-2016, 10:18 AM
Can ANYONE on The Right tell me exactly what Judge Raza has said or done that was UNFAIR to Donald J Trump
Be Specific ... what Exactly .... ?
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 10:20 AM
Standard right-wing bull$#@! propaganda tactic.
When your lies are rebutted with facts, just keep on repeating the lie over and over and over and over and over, forever and ever.
Yep, in Liberal loony land, this judge can't possibly have ANY bias against those who wish to secure our borders. After all, he was an anchor baby himself!! :biglaugh:
Some FACTS:
La Raza Judge Gonzalo Curiel and the Hispanic National Bar Association…
Posted on June 7, 2016 by sundance
The curriculum vitae of Trump University Judge Gonzalo Curiel specifically mentions his affiliation with the Hispanic National Bar Association, or HNBA.
The Hispanic National Bar Association published a press release on July 2nd 2015 which specifically stated their intention to target the “business interests” of Donald Trump:
“THE HISPANIC NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION REJECTS TRUMP'S RACIST ASSERTIONS
Washington, DC –¬¬¬¬ The Hispanic National Bar Association represents the interests of nearly 54 million Hispanics/Latinos in the United States, which is approximately 17% of the U.S. population. By his recent derogatory remarks about Mexican immigrants, Donald Trump’s disrespect of such a large segment of the population of America is not only unbelievable, but outright wrong. His comment that Mexico only sends rapists and criminals to the United States reveals a racist nature that cannot and will not go unnoticed by the Hispanic National Bar Association nor the Latino community.
Those who seek our highest public office should attempt to engage all Americans, not divide us. His comments are clearly divisive and racist and do nothing to promote equality and justice for all. Trump’s statements reveal a bias that all Americans should reject and respond to accordingly. We cannot stand silent and allow Trump to promote such racist and discriminatory behavior. This is the time for all Americans to take a stand against his insensitive, offensive and untrue statements.
The HNBA calls for a boycott of all of Trump business ventures, including golf courses, hotels, and restaurants. We salute NBC/Universal, Univision and Macy’s for ending their association with Trump, and we join them in standing up against bigotry and racist rhetoric. Other businesses and corporations should follow the lead of NBC/Universal, Univision and Macy’s and take similar actions against Donald Trump’s business interests. We can and will make a difference.
Cynthia D. Mares
HNBA National President”
http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=df9a27c10b6d6ba38ba001440&id=f8a4a02241&e=cd8fc1ccd9%0A
Alberto R. Gonzales: Trump has a right to ask if Judge Gonzalo Curiel is fair
As a private citizen, Trump has a right to his opinions, regardless of whether others agree with them, or whether others consider them wise, foolish or even dangerous. Trump, of course, is more than a private citizen; as the likely nominee for president of a major political party, he speaks with a voice that carries much weight and, if successful in November, will influence millions of people. Because of this, somecommentators have condemned Trump’s suggestion that Curiel step down from the case. These voices have, quite rightly, emphasized the importance of upholding our independent judiciary from baseless attacks by high-level persons from other branches of government.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/04/alberto-r-gonzales-trump-has-a-right-to-question-whether-hes-getting-a-fair-trial/
Cigar
06-07-2016, 10:21 AM
Well Duaaaa
Truth Detector
06-07-2016, 10:21 AM
Can ANYONE on The Right tell me exactly what Judge Raza has said or done that was UNFAIR to Donald J Trump
Be Specific ... what Exactly .... ?
Right after you tell us what white jurists and juries did that were unfair to blacks. :biglaugh:
zelmo1234
06-07-2016, 10:30 AM
Standard right-wing bull$#@! propaganda tactic.
When your lies are rebutted with facts, just keep on repeating the lie over and over and over and over and over, forever and ever.
Well I think that you have a fair and honorable statement here. And we certainly should support our positions
http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/trump-u-judges-group-tied-to-national-council-of-laraza/
Clearly the Judge does have ties to the political actions group that would be highly opposed to Trumps policy of stopping illegal immigration.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/01/judge-in-trump-university-case-reseals-some-records.html
The judge did release sensitive records to the case and then resealed them, this could be political or maybe not, but it happened..
http://kfiam640.iheart.com/onair/kfi-on-the-pulse-55925/plaintiff-in-trump-university-lawsuit-wishes-14483490/
The main plaintiff in the case was removed because she was caught praising the school so many times.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3436447/posts?page=2
And it does appear that the judges law firm was a very large donor to the Clinton foundation which is currently under investigation for illegal use of funds.
Wow! It looks like the facts?? Which of course you stated are so important, happen to favor those on the right?
Any thoughts?
zelmo1234
06-07-2016, 10:32 AM
Can ANYONE on The Right tell me exactly what Judge Raza has said or done that was UNFAIR to Donald J Trump
Be Specific ... what Exactly .... ?
The releasing of these records would be the big thing
http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/judge-in-trump-university-case-reseals-some-records/316257589
And with the judge resealing them, clearly he thought it was a mistake too!
birddog
06-07-2016, 10:39 AM
The Date Donald Trump Officially Sunk The GOP and The Republican Party
The Entire World is Laughing their ass off at Donald J Trump :smiley_ROFLMAO:
“This is the most un-American thing from a politician since Joe McCarthy,”
Mr. Graham said. “If anybody was looking for an off-ramp, this is probably it,” he added.
“There’ll come a time when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary.”
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Donald Trump is saying: ""Am I racist for saying the Mexican judge is biased against me in the Trump University suit?
Are you listening to yourself, John? . . . Just the opposite! . . . It's like I just said that rock is blue. . . . If that rock is blue, no problem, right?. . . . Are you following this? . . . But then if someone comes along and says you're a racist because you said the rock is biased against you because it is blue, when that wasn't what I said at all, . . . that would make that someone else 'a racist,' wouldn't it? . . . I mean, John, use your noodle."
I thought you were having some patriotic class, and may have been reminding us that yesterday was D-Day! You are still classless!
Safety
06-07-2016, 10:57 AM
Another massive pile of steaming leftist race hustling horse manure; for decades blacks have been bitching about white bias in juries and jurists.....stop the F'ing lying. Good lord, you cannot possibly type this crap without a tinge of embarrassment.
Sounds like you need some tissue.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 11:03 AM
Bill Maher Is Sick Of Donald Trump Acting Like A ‘Whiny Little B!tch’“If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I’ll be voting for the only one who has balls.”
birddog
06-07-2016, 11:05 AM
Bill Maher Is Sick Of Donald Trump Acting Like A ‘Whiny Little B!tch’
“If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I’ll be voting for the only one who has balls.”
Sorry, duplicate
birddog
06-07-2016, 11:08 AM
Bill Maher Is Sick Of Donald Trump Acting Like A ‘Whiny Little B!tch’
“If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I’ll be voting for the only one who has balls.”
So, Hillary is a Tranny like Moochelle? I'll likely get a TB, but that's Ok. Some have to resort to small thinking. In all my years on forums, I have never put anyone on "ignore," nor used a TB. I have enough intelligence and class to handle the situation.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 11:14 AM
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FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 11:59 AM
There you go conflating judicial bias with skin color and not the actions of the judge in question. There is only one person who says the race/ethnicity of a judge disqualifies them from adjudicating the case. That person is being supported by several here. Other cases you wish to try and compare to were cases where the judge made disparaging comments or used racial slurs, otherwise known as, their actions, that is what should have disqualified them from being a judge over the case, not simply because they were a certain color. Trump is the one trying to disqualify a judge because of their color, and you seem to support that....
I haven't made any decision whatsoever concerning the judge's potential bias.
I'm saying that every defendant has the right to ask a judge to recuse him/herself if he feels that bias is present.
When Trump made the claim -- the reaction from the Left was immediate denial that the judge in question could be biased.
The simple fact is -- that judge COULD be biased. All those who are outraged are cutting their own throats making the claim that it's not possible.
Is that judge biased? I don't know. Nor do you.
One thing we DO know is that if we accept that judges cannot be biased based on racial differences, than no white judge can be biased toward minority defendants. It's that simple.
It's not up to you or me to decide if the judge in question is biased -- that's up to the judge, himself, or to a court, if it gets that far.
We both ought to be smart enough, however, to realize that if bias exists in any judge -- there is a possibility that it exists in another judge.
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 12:16 PM
Can ANYONE on The Right tell me exactly what Judge Raza has said or done that was UNFAIR to Donald J Trump
Be Specific ... what Exactly .... ?
Okay - you don't understand the meaning of "conflict of interest." We get it.
The judge need not do anything in order to need to step down. It happens all the time -- and it happens BEFORE a judge hears a case.
Your posts on this thread are a practice in opening your mouth -- just to change feet.
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 12:17 PM
Can you please supply the factual evidence that The Judge did something Biased so that I and others can review?
I'll wait ...
I see you finally figured out your mistake in Post #25, where you said, "Bing-Go ... Water on Flames". :laugh:
I didn't think you ever would.
This post, however, is moot, since I didn't assert that the judge in question was biased.
Cigar
06-07-2016, 12:29 PM
I see you finally figured out your mistake in Post #25, where you said, "Bing-Go ... Water on Flames". :laugh:
I didn't think you ever would.
This post, however, is moot, since I didn't assert that the judge in question was biased.
I understand, it's a difficult week. :laugh:
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 12:34 PM
I understand, it's a difficult week. :laugh:
For you perhaps....
Cigar
06-07-2016, 12:34 PM
For you perhaps....
Oh yea ... can't you tell :laugh:
AZ Jim
06-07-2016, 12:40 PM
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Whos yer momma !!!!!!Reduced to this now?
Safety
06-07-2016, 03:47 PM
I haven't made any decision whatsoever concerning the judge's potential bias.
I'm saying that every defendant has the right to ask a judge to recuse him/herself if he feels that bias is present.
When Trump made the claim -- the reaction from the Left was immediate denial that the judge in question could be biased.
The simple fact is -- that judge COULD be biased. All those who are outraged are cutting their own throats making the claim that it's not possible.
Is that judge biased? I don't know. Nor do you.
One thing we DO know is that if we accept that judges cannot be biased based on racial differences, than no white judge can be biased toward minority defendants. It's that simple.
It's not up to you or me to decide if the judge in question is biased -- that's up to the judge, himself, or to a court, if it gets that far.
We both ought to be smart enough, however, to realize that if bias exists in any judge -- there is a possibility that it exists in another judge.
Once again....Trump made the claim that because the judge was "mexican" he was biased towards Trump and should be removed. You are trying to bring up other cases where the judge's actions was the reason they were removed, not simply because the judge was a different color than the defendant. Nobody has walked into a courthouse and petitioned, "the judge is white, he will be biased towards my defendant", if you have that case, please present it.
This is no different than the knee-jerking about the NAACP and how it is racist like the KKK.
Peter1469
06-07-2016, 04:39 PM
DNC talking point alert.
Peter1469
06-07-2016, 05:20 PM
moronic repetition alert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3ws7b4sZg
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 05:49 PM
Once again....Trump made the claim that because the judge was "mexican" he was biased towards Trump and should be removed. You are trying to bring up other cases where the judge's actions was the reason they were removed, not simply because the judge was a different color than the defendant. Nobody has walked into a courthouse and petitioned, "the judge is white, he will be biased towards my defendant", if you have that case, please present it.
This is no different than the knee-jerking about the NAACP and how it is racist like the KKK.
As I pointed out - it was Sonya Sotomayor who publicly stated that judges would judge differently based on their ethnicity.
If she's right -- and she very likely is -- did Obama make a huge error in nominating her?
And, you're wrong when you state that I'm comparing other cases judges where judges were recused because on their actions. I'm talking about "affiliation," and in this judge's case, he is affiliated with a Hispanic legal group that supports illegal immigration.
That means CONFLICT OF INTEREST. In addition to Trump's spokesperson citing the judge's ethnic background, he cited the affiliation of the judge.
An American today would have to be deaf and blind not to know that Trump opposes illegal immigration. Given that -- and given the fact that Sotomayor claims judges can't escape their heritages when on the bench -- Trump has every right to ask for a recusal.
There is no difference between this case -- and a case where a black defendant feels that an all-white jury is not in his best interest.
I just find it interesting how some people can condemn one thing and then turn around and defend the same thing when others do it.
Fascinating.
Safety
06-07-2016, 06:03 PM
As I pointed out - it was Sonya Sotomayor who publicly stated that judges would judge differently based on their ethnicity.
If she's right -- and she very likely is -- did Obama make a huge error in nominating her?
And, you're wrong when you state that I'm comparing other cases judges where judges were recused because on their actions. I'm talking about "affiliation," and in this judge's case, he is affiliated with a Hispanic legal group that supports illegal immigration.
That means CONFLICT OF INTEREST. In addition to Trump's spokesperson citing the judge's ethnic background, he cited the affiliation of the judge.
An American today would have to be deaf and blind not to know that Trump opposes illegal immigration. Given that -- and given the fact that Sotomayor claims judges can't escape their heritages when on the bench -- Trump has every right to ask for a recusal.
There is no difference between this case -- and a case where a black defendant feels that an all-white jury is not in his best interest.
I just find it interesting how some people can condemn one thing and then turn around and defend the same thing when others do it.
Fascinating.
Sotomayor? Your defense is invoking Sotomayor?
There is a difference in this case, simply because a jury of one's peers does not have a race quota associated with it, because if it did, then there would not have been any cases where an all white jury sat in judgement of a black defendant. Here's the bottom line, if Trump wanted to link the judge's association with "La Raza" as the sole reason he objected to him presiding over the case, that is one thing, but to say
Just four days ago, Trump told The Wall Street Journal that Curiel had an “absolute conflict“ in his role because of his “Mexican heritage.” And when asked nearly half a dozen times about the validity of his attacks against Curiel by CNN’s Jake Tapper, Trump repeated a mantra: “He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico.” That was the reason why, according to Trump, Curiel can’t effectively do his job.
This is what you are defending. Are you saying there is a conflict of interest because the judge is of Mexican heritage? Please be specific as to your answer.
FindersKeepers
06-07-2016, 06:20 PM
Sotomayor? Your defense is invoking Sotomayor?
One of the top justices in the land agrees with Trump and disagrees with your assessment. Invoking her allows you to see where you err.
There is a difference in this case, simply because a jury of one's peers does not have a race quota associated with it, because if it did, then there would not have been any cases where an all white jury sat in judgement of a black defendant. Here's the bottom line, if Trump wanted to link the judge's association with "La Raza" as the sole reason he objected to him presiding over the case, that is one thing, but to say
You're blaming selective media reporting. The Trump camp cited the affiliation -- and they cited the judge's ethnicity. Both. They also cited some of the things the judge has been involved with -- such as giving a scholarship to an illegal immigrant. Leftist media, being what it is, cites only the worst quotes, but, we're all used to that. Trump's representative also mentioned that the judge in question handed over the case to a law firm that's known for supporting Hillary Clinton. How does that sound to you?
This is what you are defending. Are you saying there is a conflict of interest because the judge is of Mexican heritage? Please be specific as to your answer.
It's always interesting when someone is on shaky ground because they keep asserting the same bogus assertions.
I am not familiar with the judge -- what I am defending is Trump's right to question the bias of the judge. There might well be a conflict of interest. Sotomayor certainly thinks it happens based on ethnicity alone, but there is more than just that present in this case, as you've been shown.
Now, if you're asking me if a judge could be biased based SOLELY on being Hispanic -- in Trump's case -- that might actually happen. He's alienated Hispanics, after all.
But -- that isn't the whole story -- so you can quit pretending it is.
Safety
06-07-2016, 06:37 PM
One of the top justices in the land agrees with Trump and disagrees with your assessment. Invoking her allows you to see where you err.
You're blaming selective media reporting. The Trump camp cited the affiliation -- and they cited the judge's ethnicity. Both. They also cited some of the things the judge has been involved with -- such as giving a scholarship to an illegal immigrant. Leftist media, being what it is, cites only the worst quotes, but, we're all used to that. Trump's representative also mentioned that the judge in question handed over the case to a law firm that's known for supporting Hillary Clinton. How does that sound to you?
It's always interesting when someone is on shaky ground because they keep asserting the same bogus assertions.
I am not familiar with the judge -- what I am defending is Trump's right to question the bias of the judge. There might well be a conflict of interest. Sotomayor certainly thinks it happens based on ethnicity alone, but there is more than just that present in this case, as you've been shown.
Now, if you're asking me if a judge could be biased based SOLELY on being Hispanic -- in Trump's case -- that might actually happen. He's alienated Hispanics, after all.
But -- that isn't the whole story -- so you can quit pretending it is.
Yea, that's why the SCOTUS works off of majority decisions, not individual decisions. She was speaking as bringing another viewpoint to the institution.
Sorry, but Trump's own words are quoted, you can't blame this on media selective reporting.
Sure, he can question the bias of the judge, in this case he questioned the judge's biases based upon the judge being mexican descent even though he grew up in Indiana. That door will open to judges being dismissed for being a southern white in cases involving any minority, that is what you are advocating for.
FindersKeepers
06-08-2016, 03:14 AM
Yea, that's why the SCOTUS works off of majority decisions, not individual decisions. She was speaking as bringing another viewpoint to the institution.
Sorry, but Trump's own words are quoted, you can't blame this on media selective reporting.
Sure, he can question the bias of the judge, in this case he questioned the judge's biases based upon the judge being mexican descent even though he grew up in Indiana. That door will open to judges being dismissed for being a southern white in cases involving any minority, that is what you are advocating for.
You have yet to realize that by denying a person's right to question a judge's bias -- any defendant, any judge, for any reason -- you drive one more nail in the coffin of suppression of rights for all.
I understand your desire to attack Trump -- you don't like the man in the least -- but you have to be able to differentiate between a valid form of attack -- and a bogus form. Right now -- you're using the latter. You're pulling one quote out, selectively, and ignoring the rest of the story.
You have to do what you are comfortable doing, and while I haven't read your posts for more than a few months, I've formed the opinion that you're better than that.
Safety
06-08-2016, 06:30 AM
You have yet to realize that by denying a person's right to question a judge's bias -- any defendant, any judge, for any reason -- you drive one more nail in the coffin of suppression of rights for all.
Not at all, one of the reasons this country is as divided as it is, is because of the type of thinking you just spoke of. Unilateral dismissal of a judge because of ethnicity, and not their actions, is counterproductive to a justice system that is supposed to be fair for all. Prosecutors have gotten in trouble for dismissing jurors based upon their skin color, so why should Trump be afforded this criteria?
I understand your desire to attack Trump -- you don't like the man in the least -- but you have to be able to differentiate between a valid form of attack -- and a bogus form. Right now -- you're using the latter. You're pulling one quote out, selectively, and ignoring the rest of the story.
Subjective. You support the man, so any attack is seen as bogus. Because the flip side of this conversation is, there has been less validity in the attacks on Obama, but you fail to call them bogus. See how that works?
You have to do what you are comfortable doing, and while I haven't read your posts for more than a few months, I've formed the opinion that you're better than that.
Thanks, but I really don't care how anybody here views my opinion or posts, I am entitled to my opinion just like you are. I call things as I see them, if I don't agree with you, don't take it personal, show me where I am not seeing things as you see them. Maybe I will see it, maybe I won't.
PolWatch
06-08-2016, 06:37 AM
Trump's remarks about the judge are just another episode of playing the victim. He is clever.
Truth Detector
06-08-2016, 06:43 AM
Not at all, one of the reasons this country is as divided as it is, is because of the type of thinking you just spoke of.
It is divided because we have had a divisive, arrogant and inexperienced race hustling PUNK in the White House for nearly eight years. DERP.
Unilateral dismissal of a judge because of ethnicity, and not their actions, is counterproductive to a justice system that is supposed to be fair for all. Prosecutors have gotten in trouble for dismissing jurors based upon their skin color, so why should Trump be afforded this criteria?
There is no UNILATERAL dismissal of a judge because of his ethnicity you low information voter; it is suggested that because of his PREVIOUS positions and AFFILIATIONS, he may have a set bias for someone promoting the idea of a wall between the US and Mexico and therefore, the defendant has a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to ask the judge to RECUSE himself from the case.
If the judge had half a brain, which would more than all the Trump denouncers combined, he would recuse himself to avoid a mistrial or successful appeal by the defendants.
Subjective.
Your entire premise is SUBJECTIVE. DERP
You support the man, so any attack is seen as bogus.
Wrong again genius; he supports the F'ing Constitution, something you lefties have serious trouble even remotely comprehending because most of you are so agenda based.
Because the flip side of this conversation is, there has been less validity in the attacks on Obama, but you fail to call them bogus. See how that works?
Yeah; Obama has been a stellar success; if you have been asleep for the last 8 years or suffer from some form of serious brain damage. See how that works? DERP
Thanks, but I really don't care how anybody here views my opinion or posts, I am entitled to my opinion just like you are. I call things as I see them, if I don't agree with you, don't take it personal, show me where I am not seeing things as you see them. Maybe I will see it, maybe I won't.[/QUOTE]
Truth Detector
06-08-2016, 06:44 AM
Trump's remarks about the judge are just another episode of playing the victim. He is clever.
Wrong again; it is just another citizen demanding an unbiased decision and justice under our Constitution. DERP
Lefties are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
Safety
06-08-2016, 06:50 AM
It is divided because we have had a divisive, arrogant and inexperienced race hustling PUNK in the White House for nearly eight years. DERP.
There is no UNILATERAL dismissal of a judge because of his ethnicity you low information voter; it is suggested that because of his PREVIOUS positions and AFFILIATIONS, he may have a set bias for someone promoting the idea of a wall between the US and Mexico and therefore, the defendant has a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to ask the judge to RECUSE himself from the case.
If the judge had half a brain, which would more than all the Trump denouncers combined, he would recuse himself to avoid a mistrial or successful appeal by the defendants.
Your entire premise is SUBJECTIVE. DERP
Wrong again genius; he supports the F'ing Constitution, something you lefties have serious trouble even remotely comprehending because most of you are so agenda based.
Yeah; Obama has been a stellar success; if you have been asleep for the last 8 years or suffer from some form of serious brain damage. See how that works? DERP
Thanks, but I really don't care how anybody here views my opinion or posts, I am entitled to my opinion just like you are. I call things as I see them, if I don't agree with you, don't take it personal, show me where I am not seeing things as you see them. Maybe I will see it, maybe I won't.[/QUOTE]
Trump never mentioned his affiliations or previous positions, he said, and I quote "his Mexican heritage", end quote.
The rest of the garbage you posted will get the time and attention it deserves...
Truth Detector
06-08-2016, 06:59 AM
Trump never mentioned his affiliations or previous positions, he said, and I quote "his Mexican heritage", end quote.
The rest of the garbage you posted will get the time and attention it deserves...
Still stuck on semantics I see; and only when they fit your narrow myopic agenda driven leftist bloviating. :biglaugh:
We know exactly what Trump meant; the judge in question has exhibited his bias and anyone with even a quarter of a brain knows that if you are for a border wall and deporting millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS back to their country, the judge's bias can and should be questioned and he should recuse himself from a high visibility media driven case.
But heck, you're a race hustling agenda driven lefty; why burden yourself with mundane things like facts, the truth or plain common sense right? After all, you're main skill here appears to be to mindlessly parrot the talking points you've been fed like a leftist lemming. :biglaugh:
Safety
06-08-2016, 07:05 AM
Still stuck on semantics I see; and only when they fit your narrow myopic agenda driven leftist bloviating. :biglaugh:
We know exactly what Trump meant; the judge in question has exhibited his bias and anyone with even a quarter of a brain knows that if you are for a border wall and deporting millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS back to their country, the judge's bias can and should be questioned and he should recuse himself from a high visibility media driven case.
But heck, you're a race hustling agenda driven lefty; why burden yourself with mundane things like facts, the truth or plain common sense right? After all, you're main skill here appears to be to mindlessly parrot the talking points you've been fed like a leftist lemming. :biglaugh:
LoL, pace yourself, you're headed for a stroke. Not that anyone would notice if it was happening anyway...
Truth Detector
06-08-2016, 07:13 AM
LoL, pace yourself, you're headed for a stroke. Not that anyone would notice if it was happening anyway...
I am always amused when mind numbed race hustling leftists think I am somehow mad. I laugh when I read the garbage race hustling lefties post. Why would I care about a bunch of low information fools that drool over DNC talking points? :biglaugh:
Safety
06-08-2016, 07:16 AM
I am always amused when mind numbed race hustling leftists think I am somehow mad. I laugh when I read the garbage race hustling lefties post. Why would I care about a bunch of low information fools that drool over DNC talking points? :biglaugh:
Everyone is amused.
FindersKeepers
06-08-2016, 07:17 AM
Not at all, one of the reasons this country is as divided as it is, is because of the type of thinking you just spoke of. Unilateral dismissal of a judge because of ethnicity, and not their actions, is counterproductive to a justice system that is supposed to be fair for all. Prosecutors have gotten in trouble for dismissing jurors based upon their skin color, so why should Trump be afforded this criteria?
It is his legal right.
Subjective. You support the man, so any attack is seen as bogus. Because the flip side of this conversation is, there has been less validity in the attacks on Obama, but you fail to call them bogus. See how that works?
You're not as perceptive as you think you are. I don't "support" Trump. I oppose Hillary. I oppose her to the extent that I will vote for her opponent.
Why drag Obama into this thread? You're just deflecting from the issue at hand.
Thanks, but I really don't care how anybody here views my opinion or posts, I am entitled to my opinion just like you are. I call things as I see them, if I don't agree with you, don't take it personal, show me where I am not seeing things as you see them. Maybe I will see it, maybe I won't.
Agreed. I don't really care about anyone else opinion either, so I understand where you're coming from.
I think what we're seeing here is a partisan attempt to take selective quotes out of context and try to make them into something other than what they really are.
I get it. It's an election year and everyone's claws are out.
zelmo1234
06-08-2016, 07:22 AM
Not at all, one of the reasons this country is as divided as it is, is because of the type of thinking you just spoke of. Unilateral dismissal of a judge because of ethnicity, and not their actions, is counterproductive to a justice system that is supposed to be fair for all. Prosecutors have gotten in trouble for dismissing jurors based upon their skin color, so why should Trump be afforded this criteria?
Subjective. You support the man, so any attack is seen as bogus. Because the flip side of this conversation is, there has been less validity in the attacks on Obama, but you fail to call them bogus. See how that works?
Thanks, but I really don't care how anybody here views my opinion or posts, I am entitled to my opinion just like you are. I call things as I see them, if I don't agree with you, don't take it personal, show me where I am not seeing things as you see them. Maybe I will see it, maybe I won't.
Just a few things to comment on?
First what does this have to do with the judges skin color (Which he appears to be one of the White Hispanics)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-trump-university-case-reseals-records-191112028--election.html
I think that this has more to do with the Trump Statement. Also the lead Plaintiff has been released from the case, and the case was not tossed out? That is a little weird
but I am sure you are right these have nothing to do with it
Certainly there are some attacks on all Presidents that are Stupid and Obama has had his share of those. But every attack on his policies has been call racism, and that is wrong too.
You are correct, you are welcome to your opinion, but when you opinion is contrary to the facts, people have the right to call you on it.
zelmo1234
06-08-2016, 07:23 AM
Trump's remarks about the judge are just another episode of playing the victim. He is clever.
Play right out of the DNC book! They will not be the only victims in this election cycle, Which is setting up to set now standards of mud slining.
Safety
06-08-2016, 07:43 AM
It is his legal right.
You're not as perceptive as you think you are. I don't "support" Trump. I oppose Hillary. I oppose her to the extent that I will vote for her opponent.
Why drag Obama into this thread? You're just deflecting from the issue at hand.
Agreed. I don't really care about anyone else opinion either, so I understand where you're coming from.
I think what we're seeing here is a partisan attempt to take selective quotes out of context and try to make them into something other than what they really are.
I get it. It's an election year and everyone's claws are out.
You can vote against Hillary without defending Trump, so that argument is moot.
Really? You are questioning bringing Obama into the conversation to back up claims that this is selective outrage on what is "bogus" attacks, when you just invoked Sotomayor earlier which had zero to do with the discussion at all?
Yea, that just proved how the defense of what Trump said is based upon your support of him.
Safety
06-08-2016, 07:46 AM
Just a few things to comment on?
First what does this have to do with the judges skin color (Which he appears to be one of the White Hispanics)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-trump-university-case-reseals-records-191112028--election.html
I think that this has more to do with the Trump Statement. Also the lead Plaintiff has been released from the case, and the case was not tossed out? That is a little weird
but I am sure you are right these have nothing to do with it
Certainly there are some attacks on all Presidents that are Stupid and Obama has had his share of those. But every attack on his policies has been call racism, and that is wrong too.
You are correct, you are welcome to your opinion, but when you opinion is contrary to the facts, people have the right to call you on it.
Try to learn the difference between race/ethnicity. You asking what does it have to do with the judge's skin color is silly.
FindersKeepers
06-08-2016, 08:10 AM
You can vote against Hillary without defending Trump, so that argument is moot.
I can also point out dishonest attacks. As anyone who sees them ought to do.
Really? You are questioning bringing Obama into the conversation to back up claims that this is selective outrage on what is "bogus" attacks, when you just invoked Sotomayor earlier which had zero to do with the discussion at all?
Sotomayor is one of the top legal minds in the land. Her opinion counts. You dragged Obama into the thread in an attempt to justify a bogus attack on Trump. That was the sole purpose. It failed.
Yea, that just proved how the defense of what Trump said is based upon your support of him.
Your partisanship is showing, Cigar. :laugh:
Safety
06-08-2016, 08:53 AM
I can also point out dishonest attacks. As anyone who sees them ought to do.
Sotomayor is one of the top legal minds in the land. Her opinion counts. You dragged Obama into the thread in an attempt to justify a bogus attack on Trump. That was the sole purpose. It failed.
Your partisanship is showing, Cigar. :laugh:
You can attempt to point them out, doesn't mean you are successful.
Sure her opinion counts, just only when it can be used to justify your support for a candidate.
My partisanship? Funny, who have I endorsed other than Gary Johnson here?
But just like Matty, Calypso Jones, and Susan B. Anthony, you can't help but grab at straws, can you, Bob?
Truth Detector
06-08-2016, 09:36 AM
I can also point out dishonest attacks. As anyone who sees them ought to do.
Sotomayor is one of the top legal minds in the land. Her opinion counts. You dragged Obama into the thread in an attempt to justify a bogus attack on Trump. That was the sole purpose. It failed.
Your partisanship is showing, Cigar. :laugh:
You're trying to argue with the King of dishonesty and deflections. The only other poster that is more skilled at that is Safety's l'il buddy Ceeeegar. ;)
Common
06-08-2016, 09:39 AM
If you read through this thread and I did its quite obvious who started the contentiousness, who brought race into the conversation who promotes insults and trolling. Which posters try to remain civil while disagreeing and which do not. All i have to say about this thread is this.
The left believes a mexican judge cannot be biased. Yet in the media the left is screaming that the White judge gave the stanford rapist a minimal sentence because hes biased. So once again in progressive left minds.
Only white males can be biased and all others are pure of heart and soul and honest and just.
Please all trolls line up and kiss my ass
Safety
06-08-2016, 09:58 AM
If you read through this thread and I did its quite obvious who started the contentiousness, who brought race into the conversation who promotes insults and trolling. Which posters try to remain civil while disagreeing and which do not. All i have to say about this thread is this.
The left believes a mexican judge cannot be biased. Yet in the media the left is screaming that the White judge gave the stanford rapist a minimal sentence because hes biased. So once again in progressive left minds.
Only white males can be biased and all others are pure of heart and soul and honest and just.
Please all trolls line up and kiss my ass
The judge in the Sanford case may have been biased, however, nobody looked at him before he decided the case and said "he's white, so he is going to be biased". No, they look at his actions and came to that conclusion. It's called prejudice before ones actions can be taken under consideration.
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