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Cigar
06-07-2016, 09:10 AM
So how did she get here? After a roller-coaster of political highs and lows since launching her campaign 14 months ago, Clinton took advantage of four factors in her race against Bernie Sanders.

She ran up the score in large states with large minority populations: Clinton's biggest delegate hauls were in large states with large minority populations, which allowed her to build a comfortable delegate lead over Sanders by March 15. By contrast, only one of Sanders' wins -- in Washington state -- netted him more than 40 delegates. All of the other big wins were Clinton's.

Self-identified Democrats were her firewall: The chief reason why Sanders was unable to run up the score in the states he won is because of Clinton's strong performance with self-identified Democrats. When Sanders won, it was due to independents. But in the 27 states with exit polls, Clinton won self-identified Democrats by a 64%-35% margin.

Party establishment embraced her and resisted Sanders: "The Party Decides" didn't work in the Republican presidential race, but it certainly did in the Democratic contest. Superdelegates have overwhelmingly backed Clinton by a 572-to-46 margin.

It is very hard to lose a Democratic race when 1) self-identified Democrats and 2) Democratic Party elites are behind you.

A no- (or little-) drama campaign: Unlike her campaign eight years ago, Clinton's 2016 campaign team never lost its cool or composure, even when things weren't going that well. Producing little drama is a benefit to any campaign -- and it's very hard to achieve.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/first-read-how-hillary-clinton-clinched-n587056

Private Pickle
06-07-2016, 09:17 AM
Technically she hasn't "cinched". The "Super Delegates" don't vote until the Convention. So enjoy that eventual shit show!

Crepitus
06-07-2016, 10:17 AM
How Hillary Clinton Clinched
Backroom deals and cronyism.

Cigar
06-07-2016, 10:46 AM
Technically she hasn't "cinched". The "Super Delegates" don't vote until the Convention. So enjoy that eventual $#@! show!


572-to-46 margin

Yep ... @Private Pickle it's possible that 527 Supper Delegates could change their mind by July 25th :laugh:

zelmo1234
06-07-2016, 10:48 AM
572-to-46 margin

Yep ... @Private Pickle it's possible that 527 Supper Delegates could change their mind by July 25th :laugh:

You do realize that if the Super Delegates did not change their mind in 08, Clinton would have won the Primary? Right?

Private Pickle
06-07-2016, 10:50 AM
572-to-46 margin

Yep ... @Private Pickle it's possible that 527 Supper Delegates could change their mind by July 25th :laugh:

I don't think so at all... But I love the fact that the Democratic Convention will be about Bernie and not about the presumptive nominee...

The Xl
06-07-2016, 10:53 AM
Super delegates.

Speaking of super, it's sad to see minorities support the women who slandered many of them as super predators over a man who would actually help them.

Cigar
06-07-2016, 10:59 AM
I don't think so at all... But I love the fact that the Democratic Convention will be about Bernie and not about the presumptive nominee...


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Cigar
06-07-2016, 11:00 AM
Super delegates.

Speaking of super, it's sad to see minorities support the women who slandered many of them as super predators over a man who would actually help them.


Have you been anywhere near 47th and King Drive in Chicago?

Private Pickle
06-07-2016, 11:07 AM
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I predict a lot of protesting, some overturned cars, some rocks being thrown and tear gas. I'm getting my popcorn ready as we speak.

domer76
06-07-2016, 11:09 AM
Backroom deals and cronyism.

And a couple million more votes.

TrueBlue
06-07-2016, 11:14 AM
Super delegates.

Speaking of super, it's sad to see minorities support the women who slandered many of them as super predators over a man who would actually help them.
You need to learn the facts about why blacks are supporting Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders! Be sure to read this report!

You Asked Us: Why Do Black Voters Support Hillary Clinton?
By Stephen Bush

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2016/03/you-asked-us-why-do-black-voters-support-hillary-clinton

"Sanders, too, has spent large chunks of the last eight years opposing America’s first black President – calling for him to face a primary challenge in 2012, voting against his attempt to close Guantanamo in 2009. The small number of African Americans who have endorsed Sanders have tended to be hyper-critical of Obama – like Cornel West, or Killer Mike."

"A large part of that lies in the Clintons and their record. Under Bill Clinton, median household income grew by 25 per cent in African-American households, at double the speed as it did for households nationwide. Unemployment among African Americans fell by six points, against a three-point drop among the population as a whole. It was the first time in American history that the fruits of economic boom were truly felt in black households."

"That asks “why are black voters backing Hillary Clinton?” Well, for the same reason that white millennials are backing Bernie Sanders. Because they think she’s the candidate that best reflects their hopes and can win policy victories for them."

Crepitus
06-07-2016, 11:23 AM
And a couple million more votes.
That came from backroom deals and cronyism.

domer76
06-07-2016, 11:32 AM
That came from backroom deals and cronyism.

Sure they did. Two million voters in the primaries all conspired together in a back room.

Quicksilver
06-07-2016, 11:35 AM
Sure they did. Two million voters in the primaries all conspired together in a back room.

I was there... weren't you?

Peter1469
06-07-2016, 04:18 PM
Technically she hasn't "cinched". The "Super Delegates" don't vote until the Convention. So enjoy that eventual shit show!

The media is the DNC typing pool. So she clinched....

JVV
06-07-2016, 04:25 PM
Perfect End to Democratic Primary: Anonymous Superdelegates Declare Winner Through Media (https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/perfect-end-to-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/)



LAST NIGHT, the Associated Press — on a day when nobody voted — surprised everyone by abruptly declaring the Democratic Party primary over and Hillary Clinton the victor. The decree, issued the night before the California primary in which polls show Clinton and Bernie Sanders in a very close race, was based on the media organization’s survey of “superdelegates”: the Democratic Party’s 720 insiders, corporate donors, and officials whose votes for the presidential nominee count the same as the actually elected delegates. AP claims that superdelegates who had not previously announced their intentions privately told AP reporters that they intend to vote for Clinton, bringing her over the threshold. AP is concealing the identity of the decisive superdelegates who said this.



This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary: The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identities the media organization — incredibly — conceals. The decisive edifice of superdelegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it’s only fitting that its nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward, and undemocratic sputter.



That the Democratic Party nominating process is declared to be over in such an uninspiring, secretive, and elite-driven manner is perfectly symbolic of what the party, and its likely nominee, actually is. The one positive aspect, though significant, is symbolic, while the actual substance — rallying behind a Wall Street-funded, status quo-perpetuating, multimillionaire militarist — is grim in the extreme. The Democratic Party got exactly the ending it deserved.

Crepitus
06-07-2016, 04:34 PM
Sure they did. Two million voters in the primaries all conspired together in a back room.
Don't be thick. By constantly pounding on the superdelegate thing they created the impression that she already had it in the bag and if you want your vote to count it better be for her.

JVV
06-07-2016, 04:54 PM
People who don't have strong feelings have a tendency to break for the perceived winner.

That's the perception the superdelegates and media created by creating and advancing the story that Hillary was already 20% of the way to the required delegates by last December, before a single primary vote was counted.

That narrative made the Democratic race seem like not as much of a race, and sent the media to Donald Trump and the GOP for their excitement. "Nothing to see here in Democratic land, folks." That made it harder for Sanders or anyone else on the Democratic side to get the media exposure they needed to overcome Hillary's 24 years of free national publicity.


The fix was in.

And Democrats are not democratic.

So stop pretending.

Crepitus
06-07-2016, 07:12 PM
People who don't have strong feelings have a tendency to break for the perceived winner.

That's the perception the superdelegates and media created by creating and advancing the story that Hillary was already 20% of the way to the required delegates by last December, before a single primary vote was counted.

That narrative made the Democratic race seem like not as much of a race, and sent the media to Donald Trump and the GOP for their excitement. "Nothing to see here in Democratic land, folks." That made it harder for Sanders or anyone else on the Democratic side to get the media exposure they needed to overcome Hillary's 24 years of free national publicity.


The fix was in.

And Democrats are not democratic.

So stop pretending.

The "everybody likes to back a winner" effect.