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IMPress Polly
09-25-2012, 06:35 AM
Voting is now an option in most of the U.S. I cast my ballot yesterday. (For Obama, of course.) Who else here has voted?

On a related note, see THIS is the kind of reason why Mr. Romney cannot SOLELY rely on next month's debates to change the election outcome in a way that's more favorable to him: polls are already open right now in most states and, according to recent polling, just 3% of the population remains undecided as to whom they will vote for. This isn't 1960 or 1980 anymore. People have options like early voting now.

patrickt
09-25-2012, 07:59 AM
I'm sure all the communists will vote for President Obama. As well as foreign nationals, dead people, and the elderly in nursing homes with dementia.

But, congratulations for voting. I live in Mexico and I'll be faxing my ballot in this morning. A lot, perhaps most, of the liberal Americans here whine incessantly but can't be bothered to vote. Fine with me.

Larry Dickman
09-25-2012, 08:03 AM
Unless I could not be home on election day, I will always vote the first Tuesday of November. It's as special a day as any national holiday and I take it as sacrosanct to our Republic.

Cigar
09-25-2012, 08:14 AM
I'm sure all the communists will vote for President Obama. As well as foreign nationals, dead people, and the elderly in nursing homes with dementia.

But, congratulations for voting. I live in Mexico and I'll be faxing my ballot in this morning. A lot, perhaps most, of the liberal Americans here whine incessantly but can't be bothered to vote. Fine with me.

Got my Dog Registered ...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/f453f958.jpg

birddog
09-25-2012, 08:23 AM
Got my Dog Registered ...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/f453f958.jpg



I'm glad to see you have a "photo ID."

countryboy
09-25-2012, 09:33 AM
Voting is now an option in most of the U.S. I cast my ballot yesterday. (For Obama, of course.) Who else here has voted?

On a related note, see THIS is the kind of reason why Mr. Romney cannot SOLELY rely on next month's debates to change the election outcome in a way that's more favorable to him: polls are already open right now in most states and, according to recent polling, just 3% of the population remains undecided as to whom they will vote for. This isn't 1960 or 1980 anymore. People have options like early voting now.
Early voting is bullshit, and shouldn't be allowed. What is the purpose of early voting?

Vote early and often. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes010.gif

Akula
09-25-2012, 09:37 AM
Early voting is bullshit, and shouldn't be allowed. What is the purpose of early voting?

Vote early and often. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes010.gif

exactly..anyone who wouldn't want to even see the debates before they made their decision has an agenda...and it isn't about making the country better.

Akula
09-25-2012, 09:39 AM
Voting is now an option in most of the U.S. I cast my ballot yesterday. (For Obama, of course.) Who else here has voted?

On a related note, see THIS is the kind of reason why Mr. Romney cannot SOLELY rely on next month's debates to change the election outcome in a way that's more favorable to him: polls are already open right now in most states and, according to recent polling, just 3% of the population remains undecided as to whom they will vote for. This isn't 1960 or 1980 anymore. People have options like early voting now.

I heartily hope you reap what you sow.

patrickt
09-25-2012, 10:24 AM
exactly..anyone who wouldn't want to even see the debates before they made their decision has an agenda...and it isn't about making the country better.


That's hilarious. Perhaps early voters have an agenda of making the country better. Perhaps early voters realize that the so-called debates are coached performances that are meaningless. Perhaps early voters don't need Chris Mathews, Al Sharpton, Rachel Maddow, or Ed Schultz to tell the President Obama won the debates.

What are the chances that between today and November I would find out that President Obama really does care about our country and Americans? That's right up there with flying pigs, isn't it?

Akula
09-25-2012, 10:26 AM
That's hilarious. Perhaps early voters have an agenda of making the country better. Perhaps early voters realize that the so-called debates are coached performances that are meaningless. Perhaps early voters don't need Chris Mathews, Al Sharpton, Rachel Maddow, or Ed Schultz to tell the President Obama won the debates.

What are the chances that between today and November I would find out that President Obama really does care about our country and Americans? That's right up there with flying pigs, isn't it?

I THINK we're on the same side...I appreciate your point, though.

Cigar
09-25-2012, 01:35 PM
I'm glad to see you have a "photo ID."

Ain't I'm a handsome devil ... and my bite is worse than may bark :)

IMPress Polly
09-25-2012, 01:36 PM
patrickt wrote:
I'm sure all the communists will vote for President Obama.

Actually, I'm the only Marxist I know personally who is (or did, in my case). :grin: That's saying something because I know like 20. (The vast majority of my online friends are fellow Marxists.) On the other hand, there are probably quite a few Communist Party members who will vote for Obama, but I don't know any CP members personally. (I should though. I really should join up with that party. I share a lot in common with their political line.)

I was more enthusiastic to cast a ballot in favor of my Senator Bernie Sanders, who is easily among my favorite members of the U.S. government (naturally). Speaking of which, there was a pretty good interview with him as part of a segment on The Ed Show this last Friday (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755822/vp/49127045#49127045) dealing mostly with health care questions and the plight of Social Security. He addresses the Romney-Ryan ticket's position and expresses some of my concern that the president (I'm assuming he'll be re-elected), while not moving to start privatizing Medicare and Social Security, will nonetheless agree to significant cuts in these popular programs as early as next year in view of the sequester issue. (Speaking of that American Association of Retired Persons convention, I was stunned that they (the Romney campaign) had the audacity to send the 42-year-old Ryan there instead of the campaign's resident senior citizen candidate for president!)

Cigar:

Sorry, I had to Thank birddog's post too just because it was a clever response. :grin:


countryboy wrote:
Early voting is bullshit, and shouldn't be allowed. What is the purpose of early voting?

Um...voting?


Akula wrote:
exactly..anyone who wouldn't want to even see the debates before they made their decision has an agenda...and it isn't about making the country better.

Yeesh, you people can make a conspiracy theory out of ANYTHING, can't you?

The people who haven't made up their minds by now are frankly what I like to call the willfully ignorant. An example of what I mean could be concentrated in a Canadian friend of mine who never votes. I was trying to discuss the Afghanistan War with him one day some years ago and discovered that he didn't even know his country was a participant therein. That's about the level of political ignorance we're talking about. It's not that such people aren't important or anything. I'm just saying that it definitely shouldn't be thought of as an insult to be sufficiently informed to cast a ballot at this stage.

Cigar
09-25-2012, 01:42 PM
Early voting is bullshit, and shouldn't be allowed. What is the purpose of early voting?

Vote early and often. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes010.gif

I think this is the sound a Dinosaur makes before dieing off into a future of Fossil Fuels.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/OldGOP.jpg

Cigar
09-25-2012, 01:43 PM
Actually, I'm the only Marxist I know personally who is (or did, in my case). :grin: That's saying something because I know like 20. (The vast majority of my online friends are fellow Marxists.) On the other hand, there are probably quite a few Communist Party members who will vote for Obama, but I don't know any CP members personally. (I should though. I really should join up with that party. I share a lot in common with their political line.)

Cigar:

Sorry, I had to Thank birddog's post too just because it was a clever response. :grin:



Um...voting?



Yeesh, you people can make a conspiracy theory out of ANYTHING, can't you?

The people who haven't made up their minds by now are frankly what I like to call the willfully ignorant. An example of what I mean could be concentrated in a Canadian friend of mine who never votes. I was trying to discuss the Afghanistan War with him one day and discovered that he didn't even know his country was a participant therein. That's about the level of political ignorance we're talking about. It's not that such people aren't important or anything. I'm just saying that it definitely shouldn't be thought of as an insult to be sufficiently informed to cast a ballot at this stage.

I agree ... I think the undecided Voter is overrated ... they know who they are voting for.

Trinnity
09-25-2012, 01:49 PM
I vote on election day. Always have, always will. I get a big kick out of it.

IMPress Polly
09-25-2012, 02:08 PM
I prefer to just have a party on election day. The outcome in my state is guaranteed (Vermont WILL go for President Obama, and I mean by a large, double-digit margin), so I prefer to be home so I can watch the national vote roll in and get results as soon as they come in.


Cigar wrote:
Ain't I'm a handsome devil ... and my bite is worse than may bark http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/smile.png

Your services have been requested. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/6376-Bite-me) (See the thread title.)

Akula
09-25-2012, 03:17 PM
Actually, I'm the only Marxist I know personally who is (or did, in my case). :grin: That's saying something because I know like 20. (The vast majority of my online friends are fellow Marxists.) On the other hand, there are probably quite a few Communist Party members who will vote for Obama, but I don't know any CP members personally. (I should though. I really should join up with that party. I share a lot in common with their political line.)

I was more enthusiastic to cast a ballot in favor of my Senator Bernie Sanders, who is easily among my favorite members of the U.S. government (naturally). Speaking of which, there was a pretty good interview with him as part of a segment on The Ed Show this last Friday (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755822/vp/49127045#49127045) dealing mostly with health care questions and the plight of Social Security. He addresses the Romney-Ryan ticket's position and expresses some of my concern that the president (I'm assuming he'll be re-elected), while not moving to start privatizing Medicare and Social Security, will nonetheless agree to significant cuts in these popular programs as early as next year in view of the sequester issue. (Speaking of that American Association of Retired Persons convention, I was stunned that they (the Romney campaign) had the audacity to send the 42-year-old Ryan there instead of the campaign's resident senior citizen candidate for president!)

Cigar:

Sorry, I had to Thank birddog's post too just because it was a clever response. :grin:



Um...voting?



Yeesh, you people can make a conspiracy theory out of ANYTHING, can't you?

The people who haven't made up their minds by now are frankly what I like to call the willfully ignorant. An example of what I mean could be concentrated in a Canadian friend of mine who never votes. I was trying to discuss the Afghanistan War with him one day some years ago and discovered that he didn't even know his country was a participant therein. That's about the level of political ignorance we're talking about. It's not that such people aren't important or anything. I'm just saying that it definitely shouldn't be thought of as an insult to be sufficiently informed to cast a ballot at this stage.

Yes..communism, socialism and marxism..the young, inexperienced and/or naive always look dreamily at them and imagine they could actually work...and everyone will get free ballons, lollipops and unicorn rides...

In theory they sound great but they haven't worked anywhere in the world they've been tried.

Surely none of these quotes from these very intelligent and worldly historical figures would change your mind....but just think..What if you ARE wrong?

"No one is so stubborn and dangerous as the beneficiaries of a fallen idea - they defend not the idea, but their bare life and the loot."
–Sándor Márai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sándor_Márai)





"Communism is the graveyard of ambition"
–Daniel R. Bou Diab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_R._Bou_Diab)



"Capitalism and communism stand at opposite poles. Their essential difference is this: The communist, seeing the rich man and his fine home, says: 'No man should have so much.' The capitalist, seeing the same thing, says: 'All men should have as much.' "
–Phelps Adams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phelps_Adams)


"Justice is always naive and self-confident; believing that it will immediately win once recognized. That is the reason why the forces of Justice are so poorly organized. On the other hand, the Evil is cynic, sly and fantastically organized. It never ever has the illusion of the ability to stand on its own feet and to win in a fair competition. That is why it is ready to use any kind of means without hesitation. And of course it does - under the banners of the most noble ideas."
–Vladimir Bukovsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Bukovsky)

"Don't listen to what the Communists say, but look at what they do."
- Nguyen Van Thieu (http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Nguyen_Van_Thieu&action=edit&redlink=1), the President of South Vietnam (http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=South_Vietnam&action=edit&redlink=1).

"For us in Russia communism is a dead dog. For many people in the West, it is still a living lion."
"I have spent all my life under a Communist regime, and I will tell you that a society without any objective legal scale is a terrible one indeed. But a society with no other scale but the legal one is not quite worthy of man either."
"In our country, the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State."
–Alexander Solzhenitsyn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Solzhenitsyn)

"The scientific approach uncovers, that Communism does not eliminate the inequality between men, the social injustice, exploitation of man by man and other evils of society – communism merely changes their form and gives birth to new evils, which become eternal fellow-travelers of communism."
"All in all, Engels talked so much rot of every kind, that now all the world’s academies of science should be directed to rectify his mistakes and idiocies.""
-Aleksandr Zinovyev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Zinovyev)

"Communism is like Prohibition, it's a good idea but it won't work"
–Will Rogers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Rogers)


"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."
–Frank Zappa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa)

Mainecoons
09-25-2012, 04:02 PM
Think Animal Farm, Polly. Read and re-read the book until you get the point.

Akula
09-25-2012, 04:46 PM
Think Animal Farm, Polly. Read and re-read the book until you get the point.

Yes...Exactly.

Maybe they don't allow kids to read that any more in our public school indoctrination centers?
Maybe reading is optional now, who knows...

Peter1469
09-25-2012, 05:02 PM
Here is VA I have to vote on election day unless I have an exception to vote early. This year I don't.

But unlike Polly, my vote matters in VA. It will be a close race here.

IMPress Polly
09-26-2012, 06:48 AM
Akula wrote:
Yes..communism, socialism and marxism..the young, inexperienced and/or naive always look dreamily at them and imagine they could actually work...and everyone will get free ballons, lollipops and unicorn rides...

In theory they sound great but they haven't worked anywhere in the world they've been tried.

Surely none of these quotes from these very intelligent and worldly historical figures would change your mind....but just think..What if you ARE wrong?

This thread is not a discussion of the merits of Marxism/communism on the one hand versus those of capitalism on the other. I merely asked whether people had voted yet. Not every thread I participate on needs to wind up being about that subject simply by virtue of my participation.

sparty
09-26-2012, 07:10 AM
We vote absentee ballot. Our votes will count, too. God help us.

Akula
09-26-2012, 07:17 AM
This thread is not a discussion of the merits of Marxism/communism on the one hand versus those of capitalism on the other. I merely asked whether people had voted yet. Not every thread I participate on needs to wind up being about that subject simply by virtue of my participation.

Oh, please do excuse me. So VERY sorry... Thanks for setting me straight.

patrickt
09-26-2012, 08:17 AM
I sent my ballot in by fax yesterday. It cost me $8.50, approximately, to send the fax but I have the strangest feeling that the socialists won't be whining that I'm being disenfranchised and AG Eric Holder won't be filling any lawsuits to get me reimbursed.