Trump's Orlando Speech: The Reviews Are In

[Cigar]

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This is going to be an GOP Ass-Kicking of Epic Proportions :laugh:

[Common]

Like Obama tries to tell us hes not a muzzi the only president that never goes to church, hes ashamed to go to mosque

http://www.wnd.com/images/obamakenya.jpg

[CreepyOldDude]

Like Obama tries to tell us hes not a muzzi the only president that never goes to church, hes ashamed to go to mosque

http://www.wnd.com/images/obamakenya.jpg

Here he is leaving St. Luke's Episcopal Church.

14991

But why let facts get in the way of spouting lies?

[Common Sense]

Like Obama tries to tell us hes not a muzzi the only president that never goes to church, hes ashamed to go to mosque

http://www.wnd.com/images/obamakenya.jpg


So dumb...

[Safety]

Wait, didn't the right complain about the 20 years he spent in Rev. Wright's church....

But he doesn't go to church....

[MisterVeritis]

Wait, didn't the right complain about the 20 years he spent in Rev. Wright's church....

But he doesn't go to church....
A far left, Marxist, American-hating church is perfect for the Monster.

[birddog]

Here he is leaving St. Luke's Episcopal Church.

14991

But why let facts get in the way of spouting lies?

Wasn't that "St. John's Episcopal Church?" As president, I think Obama has only been there 2-3 times, the first time was to hear a muslim Dr., a guest speaker.

[silvereyes]

Like Obama tries to tell us hes not a muzzi the only president that never goes to church, hes ashamed to go to mosque

http://www.wnd.com/images/obamakenya.jpg

Lame-ass diversion noted....and promptly dismissed as it should be.

[Mac-7]

So dumb...

Did someone tell you the picture was Photoshopped?

[Mac-7]

Lame-ass diversion noted....and promptly dismissed as it should be.

That is a real picture of obumer

[AZ Jim]

That is a real picture of obumerProve it...

[Mac-7]

Prove it...

A word of advice Jim.

you only prove your own ignorance when you demand to see evidence of something that is public knowledge and has been for 8 years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-518585/Obama-turban-Barack-accuses-Hillary-smear-campaign-circulating-photos-dressed-Muslim.html

[JDubya]

Like Obama tries to tell us hes not a muzzi the only president that never goes to church, hes ashamed to go to mosque

We need Presidents who don't go to church.

Churches are for idiots.

Look at Bush. He went to church all the time and he was the biggest boob to ever occupy the Oval Office.

Worst President in history.

[JDubya]

A word of advice Jim.

you only prove your own ignorance when you demand to see evidence of something that is public knowledge and has been for 8 years.

From your link....


The snapshot, which shows Mr Obama, 46, wearing a white headdress and matching robes during a visit to Kenya, was published on a popular American website.

Campaign chiefs for the Illinois senator have reacted furiously, claiming the image had been leaked to stoke up fears of terrorism and associate Mr Obama with similar pictures of Osama Bin Laden.

So he visited a country in Africa and donned their traditional dress.

Lots of people do that. BFD.

Means nothing.

[Mac-7]

We need Presidents who don't go to church.

Churches are for idiots.

Look at Bush. He went to church all the time and he was the biggest boob to ever occupy the Oval Office.

Worst President in history.

One of the biggest boobs.

jimmy carter is religious and he is a fool..

bill clinton is not religious and he is a crook and a sellout to the chinese

obumer is half muslim and he is the biggest moron of them all.

We have yet to see the first baby boomer president that was not a failure.

[Mac-7]

From your link....



So he visited a country in Africa and donned their traditional dress.

Lots of people do that. BFD.

Means nothing.








If it means nothing then why do liberals get so angry when they see it?

[FindersKeepers]

We need Presidents who don't go to church.

Churches are for idiots.






So, you would actively oppose a Muslim who regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate?

On the grounds that if he went to mosque, he must be an "idiot?"

[zelmo1234]

Prove it...

Actually it would be up to the left to prove that it is not.

That photo has been around since the first election campaign and I have yet to see it denied.

Clearly Obama is very upset that people are pointing out his biggest failure and that of course is National security.

[Common]

Here he is leaving St. Luke's Episcopal Church.

14991

But why let facts get in the way of spouting lies?

Once LMAO, he is the only Potus that didnt go to church most sundays, you cant change the truth

[maineman]

If it means nothing then why do liberals get so angry when they see it?

for what constructive purpose do conservatives continue to display it?

[Common]

Obama Doesn’t Attend Church So As Not to Distract Others, Says AdvisorAccording to Joshua DuBois, a longtime spiritual adviser (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/president-barack-obama-religion-113791.html?hp=t4_r) to Obama who led the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships during the president’s first term, the reason President Obama does not regularly attend church is that he worries that his presence detracts from other worshipers’ experience. “When folks see the line forming outside, a lot of folks who don’t attend that congregation go in,” DuBois said. “It displaces a lot of people who are members of that church or at least interrupts them.”
Apparently what makes the President’s church attendance so distracting to others is its rarity, since previous presidents who attended services regularly did not seem to cause much of a disturbance.
During his eight-year term in office, Bill Clinton (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2011/12/18/presidents-and-church-attendance/) and his family regularly attended Foundry Methodist Church on 16th Street, and people seemed to get used to their presence as a normal part of Sunday worship. Jimmy Carter not only attended the First Baptist Church of DC; he also taught Sunday School there throughout his presidency. George W. Bush went to church about five times as often as the Obamas, or about a third of the Sundays of the year.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/12/26/obama-doesnt-attend-church-so-as-not-to-distract-others-says-advisor/

[Common]

Actually it would be up to the left to prove that it is not.

That photo has been around since the first election campaign and I have yet to see it denied.

Clearly Obama is very upset that people are pointing out his biggest failure and that of course is National security.

The left on this forum is real treat zelmo, they think they are the only ones that should be allowed to as safety puts it Have differences in opinions LMAO, no trolling here.

[Private Pickle]

So, you would actively oppose a Muslim who regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate?

On the grounds that if he went to mosque, he must be an "idiot?"

Sharia

[JDubya]

One of the biggest boobs.

jimmy carter is religious and he is a fool..

bill clinton is not religious and he is a crook and a sellout to the chinese

obumer is half muslim and he is the biggest moron of them all.

We have yet to see the first baby boomer president that was not a failure.

Wrong on all counts.

Neither Carter nor Clinton invaded another country for no reason, pissed away over a trillion dollars in doing so or cost over 5,000 Americans their lives.

Your weak smear attempt is a massive fail.

[JDubya]

If it means nothing then why do liberals get so angry when they see it?

Because of the right-wing lie that always accompanies it.

[JDubya]

So, you would actively oppose a Muslim who regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate?

On the grounds that if he went to mosque, he must be an "idiot?"

Hasn't happened yet, so why deal in hypotheticals?

[Mac-7]

Wrong on all counts.

Neither Carter nor Clinton invaded another country for no reason, pissed away over a trillion dollars in doing so or cost over 5,000 Americans their lives.

Your weak smear attempt is a massive fail.

Thats your opinion.

if you want to put bush at the top of the list because you are a partisan liberal be my guest.

but all the names I gave you are fools and bad presidents.

[Mac-7]

Because of the right-wing lie that always accompanies it.

Obumer was born a muslim and spent his early years as a muslim.

[maineman]

Obumer was born a muslim and spent his early years as a muslim.

a lie. He spent his early years in Hawaii living with Christian grandparents. The fact that his father was a muslim does not make him one at birth.

[Truth Detector]

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This is going to be an GOP Ass-Kicking of Epic Proportions :laugh:


LMAO @ LA Times, Washington Post, Miami Herald, Time, USA Today, NY Times, CNN and Vox; all of which are Liberal leftist enterprises who have endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Of course they are going to denounce Trump; which just makes him more popular with the voters this fall because so many Americans are sick of Leftist organizations and politics as usual.

Yes, there is going to be an azz kicking and it is NOT how you Liberuls think it is going to turn out. I hope this time, they all leave the country like they promised with a second Bush term.

:biglaugh:

[FindersKeepers]

Hasn't happened yet, so why deal in hypotheticals?

Because you made the statement that people who go to church are "idiots," and since Muslims that go to mosque also hold religious views that can color their thinking -- I think it's important that you clarify if they are idiots also.

You opened that can of worms after all.

Certainly, you're not afraid to answer?

[Truth Detector]

We need Presidents who don't go to church.

Churches are for idiots.

Look at Bush. He went to church all the time and he was the biggest boob to ever occupy the Oval Office.

Worst President in history.

:biglaugh:

[Truth Detector]

for what constructive purpose do conservatives continue to display it?

To watch leftTards who claim it means nothing blow a gasket denouncing it? :biglaugh:

[Truth Detector]

Wrong on all counts.

Neither Carter nor Clinton invaded another country for no reason, pissed away over a trillion dollars in doing so or cost over 5,000 Americans their lives.

Your weak smear attempt is a massive fail.

Yep; in Liberal loony land 9-11 was not a good reason to invade anyone. DERP

[Mac-7]

Because you made the statement that people who go to church are "idiots," and since Muslims that go to mosque also hold religious views that can color their thinking -- I think it's important that you clarify if they are idiots also.

You opened that can of worms after all.

Certainly, you're not afraid to answer?

Well done!

keep up the attack

[Truth Detector]

Because of the right-wing lie that always accompanies it.

That's right; you only support left wing liars. DERP

[FindersKeepers]

a lie. He spent his early years in Hawaii living with Christian grandparents. The fact that his father was a muslim does not make him one at birth.

This is correct.

He may have received "some" lessons in Islam as an older child, but, it would have been only for a short time. He may feel "connected" to Islam through the father that abandoned him, but he and Michelle were long-time members of Rev. Wright's church before he was elected to the presidency.

I would say he appears to have a "soft spot" for Muslims, and that could well be due to the few experiences he knows about his father.

He also appears to have a chip on his shoulder when it comes to white Christianity. He's made that clear, starting with his description of people clinging to "guns and bibles."

In reality -- he's probably a very lax Christian with Muslim sympathies.

[FindersKeepers]

Well done!

keep up the attack


What I have found is that the Left is quick to attack Christianity -- but reluctant to do the same toward Islam.

JDubya made his own trap. If Christians are idiots -- then, by extension -- so are Muslims. But, he doesn't want to admit that -- so I expect he'll just hide from it.

[maineman]

his step father was a muslim, and he attended a non-sectarian school with other children, some of whom were muslim, when he lived in Indonesia from '67-'71. He was a longtime member of the United Church of Christ - a very liberal denomination of which I am also a member.

[Mac-7]

This is correct.

He may have received "some" lessons in Islam as an older child, but, it would have been only for a short time. He may feel "connected" to Islam through the father that abandoned him, but he and Michelle were long-time members of Rev. Wright's church before he was elected to the presidency.

I would say he appears to have a "soft spot" for Muslims, and that could well be due to the few experiences he knows about his father.

He also appears to have a chip on his shoulder when it comes to white Christianity. He's made that clear, starting with his description of people clinging to "guns and bibles."

In reality -- he's probably a very lax Christian with Muslim sympathies.

Radical black people think of Christianity as the white mans religion and see islam as a religion of color.

obumer is a natural for the self loathing religion of violence called islam

[Mac-7]

his step father was a muslim, and he attended a non-sectarian school with other children, some of whom were muslim, when he lived in Indonesia from '67-'71. He was a longtime member of the United Church of Christ - a very liberal denomination of which I am also a member.

His real father was an african muslim which made obumer a muslim at birth

[maineman]

His real father was an african muslim which made obumer a muslim at birth

Islam is not a birthright religion. There is no evidence that Obama has ever declared the shahadah.

[Mac-7]

Islam is not a birthright religion. There is no evidence that Obama has ever declared the shahadah.

This comes direct from muslims themselves.

from their lips to your ears.


http://islam101.com/dawah/newBorn.htm

[maineman]

This comes direct from muslims themselves.

from their lips to your ears.


http://islam101.com/dawah/newBorn.htm

idiot... according to that, YOU were born a muslim as well.

[Mac-7]

idiot... according to that, YOU were born a muslim as well.

How is it that no matter who you are debating YOU always wind up hurling personal insults?

the difference between me and obumer is that my parents were Christians and I do not accept the teachings of islam.

Obumer had a muslim father and a who-knows-what ding-a-ling mother.

he was raised within islam from birth and thinks the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound on earth.

[birddog]

There is more proof that Obama is a muslim, not a christian. He has never explained when and how he became a christian. His writings have indicated strongly his muslim leanings.

I know it's not PC to say this, but many of us say the hell with PC!

[Cigar]

:facepalm: :loco:

[Mac-7]

:facepalm: :loco:

Oh look.

logic and common sense has left cigar speechless - again.

[maineman]

How is it that no matter who you are debating YOU always wind up hurling personal insults?

the difference between me and obumer is that my parents were Christians and I do not accept the teachings of islam.

Obumer had a muslim father and a who-knows-what ding-a-ling mother.

he was raised within islam from birth and thinks the muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound on earth.

he was not raised with Islam from birth. that's a flat out lie.

[maineman]

He has never explained when and how he became a christian.


LIAR!

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thedudeabides/obama-on-faith-the-exclusive-interview/

[maineman]

How is it that no matter who you are debating YOU always wind up hurling personal insults?



you are a veritable magnet for them.

[birddog]

LIAR!

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thedudeabides/obama-on-faith-the-exclusive-interview/

I guess you believe everything Obama has said! I don't. He has proven over and over his willingness to lie when he needs to. You have your opinion, I have mine. I don't lie any more than you do.

[maineman]

I guess you believe everything Obama has said! I don't. He has proven over and over his willingness to lie when he needs to. You have your opinion, I have mine. I don't lie any more than you do.

you said:


He has never explained when and how he became a christian.

you can chose not to believe him, but you do not get to say that he has never explained it when he did do exactly that.

liar.

[birddog]

you said:



you can chose not to believe him, but you do not get to say that he has never explained it when he did do exactly that.

liar.

I was not aware that he had that interview, but that makes me ignorant of the situation, not a liar. Apology requested!

I don't believe Obama, he has been more supportive of and sympathetic to muslims than he has been to Christians. If Obama was put on trial for being a Christian, there would not be enough evidence to convict him.

[maineman]

I was not aware that he had that interview, but that makes me ignorant of the situation, not a liar. Apology requested!


I apologize for pointing out your ignorance. You weren't lying, you were just ignorant.... actually the last phrase should be in the present tense.

[Tahuyaman]

Liar liar pants on fire. That's maineman's only defense.

[birddog]

I apologize for pointing out your ignorance. You weren't lying, you were just ignorant.... actually the last phrase should be in the present tense.

The obvious difference between you and me is that I will admit to being ignorant, although it is rare.

[maineman]

Can you point to a post of mine that demonstrated my ignorance of a given topic?

You see... I realize that I am not an expert on every topic that is discussed here. Unlike you, I refrain from chiming in on topics where I am less than conversant.

[birddog]

Can you point to a post of mine that demonstrated my ignorance of a given topic?

You see... I realize that I am not an expert on every topic that is discussed here. Unlike you, I refrain from chiming in on topics where I am less than conversant.

I'm sure you are afraid to address many topics due to ignorance. I will give you that. My opinion on B. Hussein Obama remains the same.

[domer76]

One of the biggest boobs.

jimmy carter is religious and he is a fool..

bill clinton is not religious and he is a crook and a sellout to the chinese

obumer is half muslim and he is the biggest moron of them all.

We have yet to see the first baby boomer president that was not a failure.

Half Muslim? What a joke! Is that like being half pregnant?

[domer76]

Obumer was born a muslim and spent his early years as a muslim.

One is no more born a Muslim than they are a Baptist or an atheist.

[domer76]

a lie. He spent his early years in Hawaii living with Christian grandparents. The fact that his father was a muslim does not make him one at birth.

Only morons believe it does.

[Mac-7]

for what constructive purpose do conservatives continue to display it?

Because obumer is soft on islam and there must be a reason why

[domer76]

This is correct.

He may have received "some" lessons in Islam as an older child, but, it would have been only for a short time. He may feel "connected" to Islam through the father that abandoned him, but he and Michelle were long-time members of Rev. Wright's church before he was elected to the presidency.

I would say he appears to have a "soft spot" for Muslims, and that could well be due to the few experiences he knows about his father.

He also appears to have a chip on his shoulder when it comes to white Christianity. He's made that clear, starting with his description of people clinging to "guns and bibles."

In reality -- he's probably a very lax Christian with Muslim sympathies.

He was spot on about "guns and Bibles".

[domer76]

His real father was an african muslim which made obumer a muslim at birth

Horse+shit

[domer76]

Because obumer is soft on islam and there must be a reason why

Buying into the Drumpf bullshit, I see.

[Mac-7]

One is no more born a Muslim than they are a Baptist or an atheist.

I already gave this information on this thread but maybe you missed it so here it is again


This comes direct from muslims themselves.

from their lips to your ears.


http://islam101.com/dawah/newBorn.htm

[maineman]

I already gave this information on this thread but maybe you missed it so here it is again

muslims say that even Jewish babies are born muslim. muslims say that YOU were born muslim. are they right?

[nic34]

Wasn't that "St. John's Episcopal Church?" As president, I think Obama has only been there 2-3 times, the first time was to hear a muslim Dr., a guest speaker.

No, we don't want our president to talk and exchange ideas with others, we should only demonize and call them schoolyard names like trumpy does.

Now that's what a real president does. You all make me miss Richard Nixon.

[Mac-7]

muslims say that even Jewish babies are born muslim. muslims say that YOU were born muslim. are they right?

If your father and grandfather are muslims in africa where they (muslims) kidnap Christian girls and sell them into sexual slavery then you are born muslim.

[domer76]

I already gave this information on this thread but maybe you missed it so here it is again

I see you are an adherent of Mohammed.

[FindersKeepers]

He was spot on about "guns and Bibles".

If so, then he neglected an even greater link between "korans and guns." Or, "knives, swords. IEDs, and burning."

Right?

[JDubya]

Because you made the statement that people who go to church are "idiots," and since Muslims that go to mosque also hold religious views that can color their thinking -- I think it's important that you clarify if they are idiots also.

You opened that can of worms after all.

Certainly, you're not afraid to answer?

You're not very bright are you, LosersWeepers?

This is the question you posed to me....


So, you would actively oppose a Muslim who regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate?

On the grounds that if he went to mosque, he must be an "idiot?"

You do remember the part about "regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate", right?

So, this is how I responded....


Hasn't happened yet, so why deal in hypotheticals?

IOW, there has been no Presidential candidate who regularly attended mosque.

Get it?

Therefore, your moronic "gotcha" attempt above ^ falls flat on it's face.


Well done!

keep up the attack

And you are no brighter than that dim bulb FindersKeepers, Mac-7.

You're both low wattage.

[FindersKeepers]

You're not very bright are you, LosersWeepers?

This is the question you posed to me....



You do remember the part about "regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate", right?

So, this is how I responded....



IOW, there has been no Presidential candidate who regularly attended mosque.

Get it?

Therefore, your moronic "gotcha" attempt above ^ falls flat on it's face.



And you are no brighter than that dim bulb @FindersKeepers (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1881), @Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014).

You're both low wattage.


That's a whole lot of mental somersaults just to say that you trapped yourself in a corner.

Perhaps next time you'll think it through a little better before you cast your net....

....and catch yourself.

Fascinating.

[nathanbforrest45]

So, you would actively oppose a Muslim who regularly attended mosque as a presidential candidate?

On the grounds that if he went to mosque, he must be an "idiot?"

Only Christian Churches spawn idiots and then only certain denominations. Almost anything with the word Baptist in it gets the left frothing at the mouth

Only those "Christian" churches that don't believe in religion get a pass.

[nathanbforrest45]

for what constructive purpose do conservatives continue to display it?

To watch you guys squirt blood out of your eyes.

[nathanbforrest45]

Radical black people think of Christianity as the white mans religion and see islam as a religion of color.

obumer is a natural for the self loathing religion of violence called islam

Actually, I believe Obama harbors a hatred of Christianity because he is an anti Colonialist and believes the West has persecuted the Eastern world. I believe he is actually an Obamanite and worships only himself.

[maineman]

If your father and grandfather are muslims in africa where they (muslims) kidnap Christian girls and sell them into sexual slavery then you are born muslim.

you didn't answer my question. the link you provided says that YOU were born a muslim. is that correct, or not?

[nathanbforrest45]

Can you point to a post of mine that demonstrated my ignorance of a given topic?

You see... I realize that I am not an expert on every topic that is discussed here. Unlike you, I refrain from chiming in on topics where I am less than conversant.

You are certainly ignorant of civility.

[nathanbforrest45]

you didn't answer my question. the link you provided says that YOU were born a muslim. is that correct, or not?


I may have been born a Muslim in the eyes of other Muslims but I converted at a very early age.

[maineman]

EVERYONE is born a muslim according to muslims.

[maineman]

You are certainly ignorant of civility.

That's not true. I am not ignorant of it, I simply choose not to utilize it all the time.

[maineman]

To watch you guys squirt blood out of your eyes.

really? can you name anyone who you have watched suffer such a fate?

[JDubya]

That's a whole lot of mental somersaults just to say that you trapped yourself in a corner.

Perhaps next time you'll think it through a little better before you cast your net....

....and catch yourself.

Fascinating.

You are pathetic.

You made an ass out of yourself by displaying utter confusion over something you posted yourself. Then in response to having your stupidity pointed out to you, you projected your own actions re: mental somersaults and trapping yourself in a corner onto me.

I've seen you pull that shit before, so I'm wondering, is that like your little trademark trick or gimmick? Do you think it's clever to make an idiotic statement, then inaccurately refute a response to it and when your mistake is pointed out to you, just keep on pretending that you won some kind of little victory?

Such a typical sleazy right-wing goofball tactic.

I hope you don't think that shit sticks to the wall, LosersWeepers. People CAN read, you know.

I plainly showed how badly you fucked up for all to see.

You might as well man up and admit your gaffe because you're just making yourself look weak and sad.

[Ransom]

LosersWeepers?

This place....is such a f'n all skate.