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Professor Peabody
06-15-2016, 06:34 PM
FBI had closely scrutinized the Orlando shooter before dropping investigation

By Adam Goldman, Matt Zapotosky and Mark Berman June 13

The FBI investigated the Orlando shooter for 10 months beginning in 2013, putting him under surveillance, recording his calls and using confidential informants to gauge whether he had been radicalized after the suspect talked at work about his connections with al-Qaeda and dying as a martyr.

As part of the investigation, Omar Mateen, who was killed in a shootout with police on Sunday morning, was placed on a terrorism watch list and interviewed twice before the probe was closed in March 2014 because agents concluded he was not a threat, FBI Director James B. Comey said Monday in an interview with reporters at bureau headquarters.

Several months later, in July 2014, Mateen surfaced in another investigation into the first American to die as a suicide bomber in Syria, a fellow Floridian. And, again, investigators moved on.

It was the third time — following the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013 and a planned attack last year on a contest to draw the prophet Muhammad — that someone who had been scrutinized by the FBI later carried out a terrorist attack.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-had-closely-scrutinized-the-orlando-shooter-before-dropping-investigation/2016/06/13/838e9054-3177-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

"agents concluded he was not a threat"!!! Apparently those agents were very wrong. Three times persons scrutinized by the FBI have gone on to commit terrorist acts. With protectors like that who needs enemies.

Crepitus
06-15-2016, 07:52 PM
This has already been brought up several times.

What would you have them do about it?

exotix
06-15-2016, 07:53 PM
False ... the agents had no right to continue the investigation because of the bill the GOP drafted.

Private Pickle
06-15-2016, 08:04 PM
false ... The agents had no right to continue the investigation because of the bill the gop drafted.

lol

Tahuyaman
06-15-2016, 08:35 PM
False ... the agents had no right to continue the investigation because of the bill the GOP drafted.

They probably dropped the investigation out of political correctness once they found out he was a Muslim. Today, you can't keep an eye on people of certain groups who make it known they want to do us harm.

exotix
06-15-2016, 08:50 PM
They probably dropped the investigation out of political correctness once they found out he was a Muslim. Today, you can't keep an eye on people of certain groups who make it known they want to do us harm.Educate yourself on what the GOP did ... start with the TIDE (Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment)

Specifically, why the GOP blocked Feinsteins' proposal introduced as separate legislation in Feb. 2015 ... https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s551

That is, the FBI was forced to drop Omar from the terrorist list due to the alternate GOP version of the Bill last December *aimed at protecting those who wrongly find themselves on the terrorist watch list*

Tahuyaman
06-15-2016, 11:17 PM
It's the Republicans fault.

Professor Peabody
06-15-2016, 11:49 PM
Educate yourself on what the GOP did ... start with the TIDE (Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment)

Specifically, why the GOP blocked Feinsteins' proposal introduced as separate legislation in Feb. 2015 ... https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s551

That is, the FBI was forced to drop Omar from the terrorist list due to the alternate GOP version of the Bill last December *aimed at protecting those who wrongly find themselves on the terrorist watch list*

He was investigated for 10 months in 2013....a little before Dianne Finklesteins bill. Are you ever right?

waltky
06-16-2016, 12:18 AM
Granny says, "Dat's right - an' dey let him go...

... even tho dey knew he was hootier n' a blowfish.
:shocked:

fureverywhere
06-16-2016, 12:28 AM
In a nutshell, Hubby has a brother with anger issues and alcoholism...used to bark at the bushes out front. He might own a firearm legally as well. Terrorized us several years back and it took a bunch of squad cars to make him go home. With the threat of him coming back the local police could tell us if he came back "they could take plate numbers and keep an eye on him". Only when he begins shooting can they actually step in. I have a dog who would disembowel someone to protect me...if we both don't get shot first. He's a pit bull, police might shoot him before the shooter.

Mac-7
06-16-2016, 02:25 AM
"agents concluded he was not a threat"!!! Apparently those agents were very wrong. Three times persons scrutinized by the FBI have gone on to commit terrorist acts. With protectors like that who needs enemies.

Should those agents be fired from the FBI for incompetence and dereliction of duty?

Peter1469
06-16-2016, 02:29 AM
The FBI is looking at these investigations as law enforcement issues. That means to investigate someone is to use the criminal standards for investigation, charging, and convicting people.

We are at war with militant Islam. Congress should formalize that. And we should not be treating possible terrorists as possible criminals. We should be treating them like possible enemy combatants.

Mac-7
06-16-2016, 03:01 AM
The recent muslim shooters were born in the US.

Anchor babies?

could be.

in any case I'm not ready to deny the civil rights of US citizens - even muslims - based on what they might be thinking or saying.

Its a tricky tightrope to walk and I certainly dont have any pat answers that apply to every What-if.

but I wonder what bleeding heart liberals would have said 30 years ago if we had denied a green card to the muslim shooters muslim father on the basis he was neither needed or wanted in the US?

Think of how much happier the familes of the dead homosexuals in florida would be today if Omar the crazy afghan had been in Kabul Sunday morning instead of Orlando.