Facing Some Truths Behind the Florida Massacre

[Peter1469]

Facing Some Truths Behind the Florida Massacre (https://geopoliticalfutures.com/facing-some-truths-behind-the-florida-massacre/) In confronting terrorism, the U.S. needs to decide whether it is at war and who the enemy is.

Presently we are acting without a clear strategy, other than to not get too involved. We need a goal (a strategy) so we can determine the way to achieve it and what it will take to achieve it.

I have long said that this is war, it is not a criminal justice matter.


The slaughter in Orlando, Florida on Sunday once again raises the question of what we should do about attacks like this. But before that, we must answer a more fundamental question: Was this a criminal act or an act of war? Answering that question is the key to determining the appropriate response.


If these are criminal acts, then the criminals must be punished for their actions. If these are acts of war, then the enemy forces must be found and destroyed, not based on what they might or might not have done, but in order to destroy the enemy before they can strike again.


Since 9/11, the United States government has failed to resolve this issue. Immediately after the attack, President George W. Bush committed to bringing those who planned the attack to justice, implying that this was a criminal act.


At the same time, he sent the U.S. military into Afghanistan to wage war on the Afghan government, its army and al-Qaida, which was operating under the government’s protection. That implied that this was war.

The rules of war and the rules of criminal justice are vastly different, as is their intent. Had President Franklin D. Roosevelt said in his speech after Pearl Harbor that he intended to bring everyone who planned the Pearl Harbor attack to justice, he would have completely missed the point. It was not the pilots or the staff officers who had committed a crime. It was the Empire of Japan, as Roosevelt put it, that had committed an act of war.


Read more at the link.

[Common]

The problem is Obama wants blames inanimate objects for a very human problem, translated means hes going to continue to flood the country with illegal immigrants and refugess to fulfill his plan to dilute american

[valley ranch]

Pretty well written!

Obama’s view that Islam was incidental to terrorism was in fact a repetition of Bush’s point on the Axis of Evil. The target included all terrorists, Muslim or not. As for the argument on guns verses terrorism, it is both true and vague in its intent. It seemed to be saying that terrorism is more tolerable because of the prevalence of gun violence. But it is not clear what change of action is being recommended.

It is now almost 15 years since 9/11 and we still have not answered the core questions: Are we at war or fighting criminals? And if we are at war, who with exactly? To distinguish between crime and war, you have to look at intent, not means. The means may be the same but the goal is different. Criminals pursue money or are unbalanced and pursue fantasies. Terrorists are pursuing political ends, and therefore, their attacks are consistent with the definition of war. War is a continuation of politics by different means. War is intimately bound up with politics. Crime is not. There are always gray areas, but this definition works.

[MMC]

Picture Of Orlando Killers Dad Visiting Clinton’s Office Surfaces.....


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The Father of the Orlando Shooter Recently Visited Congress, State Department, Writes Open Letters To President Obama....

But his political activist father, who is running for President of Afghanistan, seems to have an odd relationship with the U.S. Government and sympathies toward the Taliban.Here is what we know about the Orlando shooter’s father:


This April, Mateen was in Washington, D.C., doing advocacy work with Congress and the State DepartmentSeddique Mateen is an effusive poster on social media. The following posts from his Facebook describe a trip to Washington, D.C., in April. He can be seen posing in front of State Department offices and the Democratic Foreign Services Committee offices.


Mateen has met with prominent members of Congress on past trips to Washington, D.C.
These posts from 2015 show Mateen with Reps Charlie Rangel, Dana Rohrabacher and Ed Royce. Royce is the Chairman of the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs....snip~

http://injo.com/2016/06/627509-the-father-of-the-orlando-shooter-recently-visited-state-department-writes-open-letters-to-president-obama/

[waltky]

Killed in his home town...
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Army Captain Killed in Orlando May Be Eligible for Purple Heart: Cook
Jun 16, 2016 | The Defense Department on Thursday left open the possibility that Army Reserve Capt. Antonio Davon Brown, who was killed in the attack at the Orlando nightclub early Sunday, might be eligible to receive the Purple Heart.


Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook said that the Purple Heart for Brown would be considered but the award would "depend on the definition of the event" in which his life was lost, a reference to the criteria for the Purple Heart established by Congress after the Fort Hood, Texas, shootings in 2009. Cook said the decision on the award would be up to the Army. Brown was at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando frequented by the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community when the worst mass shooting in U.S. history occurred. Police say he was among the 49 killed by 29-year-old Omar Mateen, who reportedly pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria in 911 calls.

Following lobbying by families of the victims, Congress in 2013 added to the criteria for the Purple Heart to make victims of the Fort Hood massacre eligible. At Fort Hood, Nidal Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, fatally shot 13 people and wounded more than 30 others. Hasan was sentenced to death and is being held at the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, during appeals. Congress in 2015 amended the National Defense Authorization Act to expand eligibility for the Purple Heart to include troops killed in an attack where "the individual or entity was in communication with the foreign terrorist organization before the attack," and where "the attack was inspired or motivated by the foreign terrorist organization."


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Antonio Davon Brown, a 29-year-old captain in the U.S. Army Reserve, was one of 49 people who was killed in the shooting

Then-Army Secretary John McHugh later said, "The Purple Heart's strict eligibility criteria has prevented us from awarding it to victims of the horrific attack at Fort Hood. Now that Congress has changed the criteria, we believe here is sufficient reason to allow these men and women to be awarded and recognized with either the Purple Heart or, in the case of civilians, the Defense of Freedom medal." McHugh's action also applied to an attack on a Little Rock, Arkansas, recruiting station in 2009 in which Pvt. William Long was killed and Pvt. Quinton Ezeagwula was wounded. The shooter, Abdulhakim Muhammad, was later convicted and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Brown, who joined the Army three years before the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy against openly gay service was scrapped, was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 383rd Regiment, 4th Cavalry Brigade, 85th Support Command based in St. Louis, Missouri. Brown, whose home of record was listed as Orlando, graduated from Florida (A&M) Agricultural and Mechanical University with his undergraduate degree in Criminal Justice. He was commissioned as a second lieutenant on August 8, 2008. In 2010, he received his Master's degree in Business Administration from University of Mary, North Dakota. In May 2009, he served on active duty with the 1st Special Troop Battalion, Fort Riley, Kansas. It was during that assignment with the battalion that Brown served an 11-month overseas deployment to Kuwait, the Army Reserves said.

In a statement Tuesday, Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said that Brown "served his country for nearly a decade, stepping forward to do the noblest thing a young person can do, which is to protect others. "His service both at home and overseas gave his fellow Americans the security to dream their dreams, and live full lives," Carter said. "The attack in Orlando was a cowardly assault on those freedoms, and a reminder of the importance of the mission to which Capt. Brown devoted his life."

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/06/16/army-captain-killed-in-orlando-eligible-purple-heart-cook.html

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Second Army Victim Identified among Casualties of Orlando Shooting
Jun 17, 2016 | A second U.S. Army victim has been identified among the casualties of the deadly shooting at an Orlando nightclub.


Angel Candelario-Padro served in the Puerto Rico National Guard and the U.S. Army Reserve, officials said. "It is again with our deepest sadness, our heartbreak that we inform you that National Guardsman SPC. Angel Candelario-Padro was among the victims we have lost," said Matt Thorn, executive director of OutServe-Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a Washington, D.C.-based organization that represents the U.S. lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Candelario-Padro had been a member of the Puerto Rico National Guard and was assigned to the Army band, Thorn said in a statement. He also played clarinet with his hometown band and had just moved to Orlando from Chicago, he said.


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Candelario-Padro served in the Guard from Jan. 12, 2006, until Jan. 11, 2012, at which point he transferred to the U.S. Army Reserve, Sgt. 1st Class Michael Houk, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau, confirmed in an email to Military.com. Additional information about his service history wasn't immediately available from the U.S. Army Reserve. The 248th Army Band posted a condolence message and photo of Candelario-Padro on its Facebook page. "Very painful to mention this but we have to recognize and do a tribute to one of our own," it stated. "With great sadness I want to report the loss of who was in life the SPC ANGEL CANDELARIO. The Band 248 joins the sadness that overwhelms your family and we wish you much peace and resignation. Spc Candelario, rest in peace."

Candelario-Padro for two years prior lived in Chicago, where he worked at the Illinois Eye Institute and had side jobs at Old Navy and as a Zumba instructor, according to an article in The Chicago Tribune. He was at the Pulse nightclub frequented by the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community when the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history occurred. Authorities say 29-year-old Omar Mateen, who reportedly pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria in 911 calls, killed 49 people and injured another 53 before being killed in a shootout with police.


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Angel Candelario-Padro, a victim of the deadly shooting in Orlando, had served in the Puerto Rico National Guard and was a member of the band.

Army Reserve Capt. Antonio Davon Brown was also killed in the attack and may be eligible to receive the Purple Heart, a Pentagon spokesman said on Thursday. Meanwhile, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, Imran Yousuf, 24, is being recognized as a hero for helping between 60 and 70 people escape the mass shooting by unlatching a door near the back staff halfway of the building. Candelario-Padro will be flown home to Puerto Rico to be buried in the Guanica Municipal Cemetery in a section reserved for service members, Thorn said.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/06/17/second-military-victim-identified-casualties-orlando-shooting.html

[Peter1469]

If the attack is officially called terrorism (linked to an enemy), they would likely be entitled to a purple heart.

[Cigar]

The problem is Obama wants blames inanimate objects for a very human problem, translated means hes going to continue to flood the country with illegal immigrants and refugess to fulfill his plan to dilute american

.... and The Christina Grimmie Murderer :laugh: Obama's Fault

[The Sage of Main Street]

Facing Some Truths Behind the Florida Massacre (https://geopoliticalfutures.com/facing-some-truths-behind-the-florida-massacre/) In confronting terrorism, the U.S. needs to decide whether it is at war and who the enemy is.

Presently we are acting without a clear strategy, other than to not get too involved. We need a goal (a strategy) so we can determine the way to achieve it and what it will take to achieve it.

I have long said that this is war, it is not a criminal justice matter.




Read more at the link. England ruled over hundreds of millions of Hindus with only 30,000 Redcoats.

[Peter1469]

.... and The Christina Grimmie Murderer :laugh: Obama's Fault

Who?

[Peter1469]

England ruled over hundreds of millions of Hindus with only 30,000 Redcoats.

How has it worked in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[JDubya]

Who?

The 22 year old up and coming singer who had appeared on The Voice and who was gunned down at another Orlando nightclub just 3 miles away from and one night before the Pulse massacre.

[JDubya]

Picture Of Orlando Killers Dad Visiting Clinton’s Office Surfaces.....

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Orlando-shooter-hillary-clintons-office-700x350.jpg

The Father of the Orlando Shooter Recently Visited Congress, State Department, Writes Open Letters To President Obama....

But his political activist father, who is running for President of Afghanistan, seems to have an odd relationship with the U.S. Government and sympathies toward the Taliban.Here is what we know about the Orlando shooter’s father:

This April, Mateen was in Washington, D.C., doing advocacy work with Congress and the State Department

Seddique Mateen is an effusive poster on social media. The following posts from his Facebook describe a trip to Washington, D.C., in April. He can be seen posing in front of State Department offices and the Democratic Foreign Services Committee offices.

Mateen has met with prominent members of Congress on past trips to Washington, D.C.
These posts from 2015 show Mateen with Reps Charlie Rangel, Dana Rohrabacher and Ed Royce. Royce is the Chairman of the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs....snip~

Total bullshit.

Pic was taken in April of this year. Long after Clinton had stepped down as SoS.

http://www.snopes.com/orlando-shooters-father-clinton/

[MMC]

Total bull$#@!.

Pic was taken in April of this year. Long after Clinton had stepped down as SoS.

http://www.snopes.com/orlando-shooters-father-clinton/



The Father of the Orlando Shooter Recently Visited Congress, State Department, Writes Open Letters To President Obama.....snip~


Duh!

[Peter1469]

The 22 year old up and coming singer who had appeared on The Voice and who was gunned down at another Orlando nightclub just 3 miles away from and one night before the Pulse massacre.

never heard of her

[Peter1469]

The Father of the Orlando Shooter Recently Visited Congress, State Department, Writes Open Letters To President Obama.....snip~


Duh!
putting your faith in snopes is asking for a fail.