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FindersKeepers
06-24-2016, 07:36 AM
I hope Obama learns from this...


As for a statutory basis, INA puts in place a uniform scheme for naturalization, which the President may not overrule or rewrite as Obama effectively did with DAPA. Though he may have the right to veto a bill at the time of signing, he may not likewise override a statute. The Fifth Circuit succinctly explained how Obama did just this: "DAPA would allow illegal aliens to receive the benefits of lawful presence solely on account of their children's immigration status without complying with any of the requirements... that Congress has deliberately imposed."


Had the Supreme Court upheld Obama's executive action, the consequences would have been cataclysmic. The Court would have essentially sanctioned the President acting as lawmaker -- not law enforcer. This should be alarming to Democrats and Republicans alike.
Obama's executive order, though, should not have come as a surprise. Obama has repeatedly signaled his willingness to overrule Congress. In 2014, for instance, he warned (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-i-will-use-my-pen-and-phone-to-take-on-congress/), "We are not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we're providing Americans the kind of help that they need. I've got a pen, and I've got a phone."



http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/opinions/supreme-court-immigration-split-limits-authority-kayleigh-mcenany/

Cigar
06-24-2016, 07:58 AM
I hope Obama learns from this...



http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/opinions/supreme-court-immigration-split-limits-authority-kayleigh-mcenany/


I think the entire Democratic Party Leaned a valuable lesson this week ... doing nothing resolves nothing, it just prolongs the problem or move it on to someone else.

I heard last night that the organizing money that was going to be used to help immigrant families assimilate to America will now be used to help Organize The Latino Voting Block. Because the reality is, this country will never round up 10 Million Immigrants and deport them and there will never be a silly Wall built.

I think it's more than obvious, when you have 60 to 90% of Republican, Democrat and Independent Voters all agreeing on Comprehensive Immigration Reform and Common Sense Gun Legislation, and a small few blocking it ... it's just time to get the Majority together and simply make the change happen.

Common
06-24-2016, 08:04 AM
I think the entire Democratic Party Leaned a valuable lesson this week ... doing nothing resolves nothing, it just prolongs the problem or move it on to someone else.

I heard last night that the organizing money that was going to be used to help immigrant families assimilate to America will now be used to help Organize The Latino Voting Block. Because the reality is, this country will never round up 10 Million Immigrants and deport them and there will never be a silly Wall built.

I think it's more than obvious, when you have 60 to 90% of Republican, Democrat and Independent Voters all agreeing on Comprehensive Immigration Reform and Common Sense Gun Legislation, and a small few blocking it ... it's just time to get the Majority together and simply make the change happen.

Obama wanted to skirt all the criteria and just hand out citizenship to people because their child had birthright citizenship and bypass ALL LAWS to rush to make them citizens so they can vote this election.

Mac-7
06-24-2016, 08:47 AM
I think it's more than obvious, when you have 60 to 90% of Republican, Democrat and Independent Voters all agreeing on Comprehensive Immigration Reform



90% is too high, but I think a majority of people are looking for an easy answer that does not exist.

Because your idea of comprehensive immigration reform is very different from mine

Mac-7
06-24-2016, 08:50 AM
Obama wanted to skirt all the criteria and just hand out citizenship to people because their child had birthright citizenship and bypass ALL LAWS to rush to make them citizens so they can vote this election.

Rule number one:

any illegal alien who is eventually allowed to stay must NEVER be a citizen and allowed to vote.

they do not deserve that privilage

Mister D
06-24-2016, 10:12 AM
And remember...we can't "round up" 10 million illegals but we can round up 300,000,000 guns. :laugh:

MMC
06-24-2016, 01:46 PM
I hope Obama learns from this...



http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/opinions/supreme-court-immigration-split-limits-authority-kayleigh-mcenany/

:shocked: Cmon now. You got to be kidding, Right? http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.png