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zelmo1234
07-05-2016, 11:12 PM
The house has invited James Comey to come on over and explain him self.

With Rank and File FBI agents expressing their displeasure with the Directors positions. Congress would like to have a few more Questions answered.

I feel sorry for him. If he goes after Hillary like the evidence would lead anyone to do, he gets fired.

So he submits to the pressure of the Whitehouse and now Congress will likely force him to resign.

Of all of the people having a bad day, his might be the worst

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=YOutube+FBI+directors+speech&view=detail&mid=B19EB4B9B925A6BBDC33B19EB4B9B925A6BBDC33&FORM=VIRE

zelmo1234
07-05-2016, 11:17 PM
Wow, just went onto my Facebook pg. The Berny supporters are more pissed than the GOP.

This has started a Crap Storm that this Ruling has started. And I think everyone knew it was coming Color me surprised.

Doublejack
07-06-2016, 12:17 AM
He simply did his job and this is the result.

AZ Jim
07-06-2016, 12:19 AM
First, he has no obligation to explain anything to congress and secondly, if Ryan persists in this witch hunt it will cost republicans dearly in November. People are already down on congressional republicans and spending more money to this end is the last thing people have patience for. The congress is not doing the peoples business when they are playing these political games.

Subdermal
07-06-2016, 12:22 AM
Sure, partisan.

The problem appears to be a huge segment of the American Public doesn't seem to think that Comey did his job.

Cletus
07-06-2016, 12:25 AM
Of course he has to explain himself if Congress wants him to do so.

In his statement today, he acknowledged that Clinton did in fact commit a crime with her handling of sensitive information entrusted to her care. Since the Bureau's findings indicate she committed a crime, he needs to explain to Congress and the American People why he is not recommending she be prosecuted.

I was presented with a possible scenario earlier this evening that actually makes a lot of sense. Of course it is just speculation, but if Comey knew that regardless of his recommendation, Clinton was not going to be indicted, it almost makes sense for him to have taken the route he did... recommend against prosecution, but then in his statement, list her offenses. He could not have done that if he had passed a recommendation to indict on to Justice.

Don
07-06-2016, 12:35 AM
If you don't report all your income to the IRS just tell them you were careless but didn't intend to stiff them on taxes owed. There must be thousands of things we can do now and get away with nothing more than an admonishment. Hello officer, was I speeding? How careless of me! It wasn't my intent though. Have a nice day! What message does that send to children when these flakes are not held accountable for their actions but everyone else is?

AZ Jim
07-06-2016, 12:43 AM
Of course he has to explain himself if Congress wants him to do so.

In his statement today, he acknowledged that Clinton did in fact commit a crime with her handling of sensitive information entrusted to her care. Since the Bureau's findings indicate she committed a crime, he needs to explain to Congress and the American People why he is not recommending she be prosecuted.

I was presented with a possible scenario earlier this evening that actually makes a lot of sense. Of course it is just speculation, but if Comey knew that regardless of his recommendation, Clinton was not going to be indicted, it almost makes sense for him to have taken the route he did... recommend against prosecution, but then in his statement, list her offenses. He could not have done that if he had passed a recommendation to indict on to Justice.Link to where he used the term "crime" anywhere.

Cletus
07-06-2016, 12:50 AM
Link to where he used the term "crime" anywhere.

I can talk about you all day and never use the word "Moron". That doesn't mean people won't understand what I am saying. He described her handling of sensitive material as "extremely careless". That translates quite well into "gross negligence", which is a crime under Title 18 USC 793(f).

Ethereal
07-06-2016, 01:04 AM
He simply did his job and this is the result.

Haha!

So naive.

You'll believe anything, won't you?

Ethereal
07-06-2016, 01:06 AM
First, he has no obligation to explain anything to congress and secondly, if Ryan persists in this witch hunt it will cost republicans dearly in November. People are already down on congressional republicans and spending more money to this end is the last thing people have patience for. The congress is not doing the peoples business when they are playing these political games.

Normal people are paying absolutely no attention to any of this, so Republicans won't be helped or harmed if they continue to pursue this matter in Congress. The only people who are upset by this are members of the Clinton cult and Republicans shouldn't base their strategy on how much it will upset their opponents.

Common
07-06-2016, 01:07 AM
I said from the beginning she would never be indicted. Look its like any other organization if you have someone in dutch that can take ALOT of people with them like hillary, they pull out all the stops to keep her mouth shut.

Shes the second dirtiest criminal politician, bill is first. She was guilty, she should have been indicted and I knew it would never happen.

Subdermal
07-06-2016, 01:13 AM
Link to where he used the term "crime" anywhere.

Link to where you demonstrate intelligence.

FindersKeepers
07-06-2016, 03:51 AM
First, he has no obligation to explain anything to congress and secondly, if Ryan persists in this witch hunt it will cost republicans dearly in November. People are already down on congressional republicans and spending more money to this end is the last thing people have patience for. The congress is not doing the peoples business when they are playing these political games.

He will probably end up having to explain.

The problem is -- they waited too long. The timing is awful. We're at the end of a primary season and the "will of the people" chose Hillary. It's a sticky wicket to be sure.

If Hillary steps down, the DNC could try to throw her votes to Biden, because there's not a lot of support for Sanders with the elitists. Democrats, the DOJ and the Administration are understandably nervous, and after Bill Clinton's meeting with Lynch and Comey's statement, it all smacks of corruption at the highest levels.

Had this happened two years ago, it wouldn't be such a major issue, but because Hillary was running, other candidates that might have run, did not.

Today -- it is.

FindersKeepers
07-06-2016, 03:52 AM
I said from the beginning she would never be indicted. Look its like any other organization if you have someone in dutch that can take ALOT of people with them like hillary, they pull out all the stops to keep her mouth shut.

Shes the second dirtiest criminal politician, bill is first. She was guilty, she should have been indicted and I knew it would never happen.

I predicted that as well.

So much politics involved at this point.

Mac-7
07-06-2016, 04:05 AM
Link to where he used the term "crime" anywhere.

I dont know if one of obumer's prostitutes used the word "crime" or not.

Comey is just throwing up a smokescreen for gullible liberals to hide behind and avoid having to admit that hillary exposed top secret classified information to our nation's enemies.

Mac-7
07-06-2016, 04:08 AM
Wow, just went onto my Facebook pg. The Berny supporters are more pissed than the GOP.

This has started a Crap Storm that this Ruling has started. And I think everyone knew it was coming Color me surprised.

The 20-Something socialists will calm down and vote for her after they realize that hillary is offering them more free stuff from the government than trump.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 04:40 AM
First, he has no obligation to explain anything to congress and secondly, if Ryan persists in this witch hunt it will cost republicans dearly in November. People are already down on congressional republicans and spending more money to this end is the last thing people have patience for. The congress is not doing the peoples business when they are playing these political games.

It was not Ryan, some head of the Judicial something or other. And if he is asked to come and testify to congress, he is obligated to go.

Next I would have agreed with you yesterday, but Comey has a few issues. #1 He has several present and past FBI agents that turned against him. #2 The way he did this, actually laid out all of the crimes that she committed, then told people she was not being prosecuted, and then said don't try this at home folks, because if you do it, you will be prosecuted.

Americans of all political walks hate double standards. Only the 20% on the extreme left appear to be happy, even main stream Democrats are upset. and Bernie Supporters? That are unhinged

Peter1469
07-06-2016, 04:44 AM
The FBI director outlined a case (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system) about why Hillary should get less votes that Mondale.


Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 04:46 AM
I think that Comey is Toast!

He will not survive this. Lynch of course Cut a Deal with Slick Willie so if Hillary is elected she will stay on as AG and get the next Supreme Court Nomination.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 04:47 AM
The FBI director outlined a case (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system) about why Hillary should get less votes that Mondale.

Unfortunately the electorate is not nearly as informed or intelligent as they were when Mondale was running.

The Democrats have done an excellent job destroying the educational system

Peter1469
07-06-2016, 04:51 AM
It was an historic statement about a criminal suspect. Especially considering that he was not recommending charges. He trashes her.

Now she and her team should have their security clearances revoked. She should no longer get intelligence briefings.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 04:58 AM
It was an historic statement about a criminal suspect. Especially considering that he was not recommending charges. He trashes her.

Now she and her team should have their security clearances revoked. She should no longer get intelligence briefings.

The problem with that is the Obama administration is as corrupt as she is, and Congress will not act because the GOP is scared to do anything.

domer76
07-06-2016, 05:02 AM
I can talk about you all day and never use the word "Moron". That doesn't mean people won't understand what I am saying. He described her handling of sensitive material as "extremely careless". That translates quite well into "gross negligence", which is a crime under Title 18 USC 793(f).

Major jump of logic in your use of the English language. A failed one, too.

domer76
07-06-2016, 05:05 AM
I dont know if one of obumer's prostitutes used the word "crime" or not.

Comey is just throwing up a smokescreen for gullible liberals to hide behind and avoid having to admit that hillary exposed top secret classified information to our nation's enemies.


Funny my how people thought of Comey as an honorable, independent and competent Republican until he didn't give them what they wanted. Then he's an Obama prostitute.

What a bunch of hypocritical pussies!

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 06:40 AM
Funny my how people thought of Comey as an honorable, independent and competent Republican until he didn't give them what they wanted. Then he's an Obama prostitute.

What a bunch of hypocritical pussies!

I think that he did the best that he could, understanding that his superiors Lynch and Obama were not going to allow a prosecution.

Once the Fix was in, all he could do was destroy her in his speech. He did a good job at that, but appearances are bad and, and somebody has to take the fall.

Looks like it is his job to be the fall guy.

Sad Really

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 06:58 AM
It was an historic statement about a criminal suspect. Especially considering that he was not recommending charges. He trashes her.

Now she and her team should have their security clearances revoked. She should no longer get intelligence briefings.

The Democratic Nominee and the next President should not get security briefings? What planet do you inhabit?

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 07:00 AM
Funny my how people thought of Comey as an honorable, independent and competent Republican until he didn't give them what they wanted. Then he's an Obama prostitute.

What a bunch of hypocritical pussies!

Just another and fully predictable GOP temper tantrum. Nothing will come of it.. People are really sick and tired of their histrionics.

Common Sense
07-06-2016, 07:02 AM
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Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 07:05 AM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/161381/large/Hillary's_e-mails_vs._Bush_and_Cheney's_20_million_deleted_e-mails_on_illegal_secret_private_e-mail_server.jpg?1440712600

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 07:33 AM
The Democratic Nominee and the next President should not get security briefings? What planet do you inhabit?

If Comey is right, and we don't have reason to suspect that he is not. Russia, China, and many countries in the middle east may have copies of those Classified Emails

If they do, it would be easy to Blackmail Her as this would then become an impeachable offense..

She has proven that she can't be trusted. They will have to leave those decisions to the VP and Congress.

Hopefully it will not get to that and as bad as Trump is, he will defeat her in the election. But under NO circumstances should she be trusted with National Security Issues

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 07:34 AM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/161381/large/hillary's_e-mails_vs._bush_and_cheney's_20_million_deleted_e-mails_on_illegal_secret_private_e-mail_server.jpg?1440712600


link

Mac-7
07-06-2016, 07:37 AM
Funny my how people thought of Comey as an honorable, independent and competent Republican until he didn't give them what they wanted. Then he's an Obama prostitute.

What a bunch of hypocritical pussies!

He's a prostitute for bending to white house political pressure and not recommending charges against hillary.

clearly she violated the secrets protection laws by allowing clasdified information to be exposed to the enemy.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 07:37 AM
First, he has no obligation to explain anything to congress and secondly, if Ryan persists in this witch hunt it will cost republicans dearly in November. People are already down on congressional republicans and spending more money to this end is the last thing people have patience for. The congress is not doing the peoples business when they are playing these political games.
If he Corrupt or Cowardly Comey fails to adequately explain himself the House must impeach him.

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 07:37 AM
link

Link to what? It's a picture

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 07:43 AM
Funny my how people thought of Comey as an honorable, independent and competent Republican until he didn't give them what they wanted. Then he's an Obama prostitute.

What a bunch of hypocritical pussies!
Corrupt and Cowardly Comey destroyed his reputation with his act. It happens. If there is any justice Comey will not survive this and will die a disgraced man.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 07:44 AM
The Democratic Nominee and the next President should not get security briefings? What planet do you inhabit?
She cannot be trusted with the nation's secrets.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 07:47 AM
He's a prostitute for bending to white house political pressure and not recommending charges against hillary.

clearly she violated the secrets protection laws by allowing clasdified information to be exposed to the enemy.

I am not sure that he is??

I wonder if he knew that if he recommended Prosecution that he was going to be overturned by Lynch. If he had don that it would have prevented him from going over the findings of the FBI.

By doing it this way the nation understand that She is a Felon, Criminal, Liar, and can't be trusted with national security.

After the meeting with Bill, the Fix was in, we all knew that.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 07:49 AM
Corrupt and Cowardly Comey destroyed his reputation with his act. It happens. If there is any justice Comey will not survive this and will die a disgraced man.

I thought that last night, but if he knew the Fix was in, and he had too. His Agents would have known what the real conversation between Lynch and Slick Willie was.

This might have been the only way to get the information to the people. If this swings the election, which it very well could. The next president and AG will have the ability to prosecute.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 07:50 AM
Link to what? It's a picture

Bush Deleting 20 million Government emails on a server used for government communications?

Cigar
07-06-2016, 07:51 AM
It's Over - and "nothing" is ever going to Change the Outcome.

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 07:53 AM
This is so funny..... every rationalization under the sun... except the REAL one. NO proof of a crime... no proof of INTENT... no proof the server was ever compromised. His word "Likely" is NOT proof... He's a Republican who happens to be ethical enough to do his job properly... and that is not a concept the GOP can understand.. So he MUST be corrupt. Give me a break... You people are pathetic.

Chris
07-06-2016, 07:57 AM
This is so funny..... every rationalization under the sun... except the REAL one. NO proof of a crime... no proof of INTENT... no proof the server was ever compromised. His word "Likely" is NOT proof... He's a Republican who happens to be ethical enough to do his job properly... and that is not a concept the GOP can understand.. So he MUST be corrupt. Give me a break... You people are pathetic.

Comey didn't say no proof, he said not enough--he did indicate her lies and extreme carelessness--to recommend prosecution. She simply won't be charged for her lies and carelessness.

Cigar
07-06-2016, 07:59 AM
Comey didn't say no proof, he said not enough--he did indicate her lies and extreme carelessness--to recommend prosecution. She simply won't be charged for her lies and carelessness.


Neither where these guys ... and they filled Arlington

http://images.politico.com/global/bush%20and%20cheney.jpg (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/Cheney_will_speak_at_GOP_convention.html)

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:03 AM
Neither where these guys ... and they filled Arlington

http://images.politico.com/global/bush%20and%20cheney.jpg (http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/Cheney_will_speak_at_GOP_convention.html)


That being true doesn't make her lies and carelessness less true. Argument from hypocrisy is fallacious.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:06 AM
I thought that last night, but if he knew the Fix was in, and he had too. His Agents would have known what the real conversation between Lynch and Slick Willie was.

This might have been the only way to get the information to the people. If this swings the election, which it very well could. The next president and AG will have the ability to prosecute.
If that was his plan he could have used to legal phrase of gross negligence in his speech.

He destroyed his reputation yesterday.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:07 AM
It's Over - and "nothing" is ever going to Change the Outcome.
LOL. I love your sense of humor.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:10 AM
This is so funny..... every rationalization under the sun... except the REAL one. NO proof of a crime... no proof of INTENT... no proof the server was ever compromised. His word "Likely" is NOT proof... He's a Republican who happens to be ethical enough to do his job properly... and that is not a concept the GOP can understand.. So he MUST be corrupt. Give me a break... You people are pathetic.
You have turned what Corrupt and Cowardly Comey said on its head.

This not over. Corrupt and Cowardly Comey destroyed his reputation yesterday. Crooked Hillary's indictment will have to wait until March or April next year.

Cigar
07-06-2016, 08:12 AM
That being true doesn't make her lies and carelessness less true. Argument from hypocrisy is fallacious.


Well ... you eventually got over W's and Dick's lies and carelessness, so I'm sure you'll survive this just fine. :laugh:

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 08:13 AM
If that was his plan he could have used to legal phrase of gross negligence in his speech.

He destroyed his reputation yesterday.

What a hoot!! With WHO? The morons that already hate her? The majority of Americans are sick to death of this crap and are eager to move on to the election...

Mac-7
07-06-2016, 08:15 AM
This is so funny..... every rationalization under the sun... except the REAL one. NO proof of a crime... no proof of INTENT... no proof the server was ever compromised. His word "Likely" is NOT proof... He's a Republican who happens to be ethical enough to do his job properly... and that is not a concept the GOP can understand.. So he MUST be corrupt. Give me a break... You people are pathetic.

Intent is nt required for the crime of gross negligence and mishandling of classified documents.

which hillary was guilty of as spon as she set up the unsecured private server.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:16 AM
If that was his plan he could have used to legal phrase of gross negligence in his speech.

He destroyed his reputation yesterday.

What a hoot!! With WHO? The morons that already hate her? The majority of Americans are sick to death of this crap and are eager to move on to the election...
Corrupt and Cowardly Comey destroyed his reputation with those who are not yet corrupted.

Liberals have been saying to Moveon for a long time. You liberals are always willing to excuse your lawlessness and corruption. Aren't you? Crooked Hillary needs to be held accountable for her crimes. The state must indict, try, convict and execute her.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:18 AM
If that was his plan he could have used to legal phrase of gross negligence in his speech.

He destroyed his reputation yesterday.

I agree that he destroyed his reputation, but it may have been all that was left.

If he had used Gross Negligence then he would have had to prosecute and he would not have been able to give his speech.

The worse part is the people no longer Trust the FBI. That is why the agents are having a cow. Their lives just got more dangerous and harder.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:19 AM
Well ... you eventually got over W's and Dick's lies and carelessness, so I'm sure you'll survive this just fine. :laugh:

Which lies were those Again? I forget???

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:21 AM
If that was his plan he could have used to legal phrase of gross negligence in his speech.

He destroyed his reputation yesterday.

Corrupt and Cowardly Comey destroyed his reputation with those who are not yet corrupted.

Liberals have been saying to Moveon for a long time. You liberals are always willing to excuse your lawlessness and corruption. Aren't you? Crooked Hillary needs to be held accountable for her crimes. The state must indict, try, convict and execute her.

Unless there is proof that she was selling secrets or passing them willingly to our enemies, which there is not, the death penalty is off the table.

From what I see she could get 10 years.

del
07-06-2016, 08:21 AM
only idiots ever trusted the fbi.

Cigar
07-06-2016, 08:21 AM
Which lies were those Again? I forget???


See ... how easy that was or you, forgot already? :laugh:

So how important could it have been for you in the first place. :wink:

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:22 AM
I agree that he destroyed his reputation, but it may have been all that was left.

If he had used Gross Negligence then he would have had to prosecute and he would not have been able to give his speech.

The worse part is the people no longer Trust the FBI. That is why the agents are having a cow. Their lives just got more dangerous and harder.
Yes. Had he used the proper term, after all, gross negligence is carelessness then he would have been compelled to do the right thing.

The FBI was overthrown in the regime's bloodless coup.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:23 AM
See ... how easy that was or you, forgot already? :laugh:

So how important could it have been for you in the first place. :wink:

You are the one that said they lied? What lies are you talking about?

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:25 AM
Unless there is proof that she was selling secrets or passing them willingly to our enemies, which there is not, the death penalty is off the table.

From what I see she could get 10 years.
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:25 AM
Yes. Had he used the proper term, after all, gross negligence is carelessness then he would have been compelled to do the right thing.

The FBI was overthrown in the regime's bloodless coup.

If he would have done that he would not have been able to tell the American people all of the Lies, Carelessness and lawlessness that Hillary had committed. It would have been sent on to the career prosecutors and Lynch, who had cut a deal with Slick Willie a few days ago

she would have sealed the documents and the people would have never known.

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:25 AM
Well ... you eventually got over W's and Dick's lies and carelessness, so I'm sure you'll survive this just fine. :laugh:

They're not up for election, Hillary is. I'm guessing this will continue to be a contentious issue, continue to weaken her credibility, and hurt her changes of getting elected.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:26 AM
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.

If that is the case, and from what we know now, it is not provable. Then Treason would be on the table.

del
07-06-2016, 08:26 AM
treason

lol

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 08:27 AM
They're not up for election, Hillary is. I'm guessing this will continue to be a contentious issue, continue to weaken her credibility, and hurt her changes of getting elected.

Doubtful.... not with Trump as the alternative.

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:28 AM
Yes. Had he used the proper term, after all, gross negligence is carelessness then he would have been compelled to do the right thing.

The FBI was overthrown in the regime's bloodless coup.


I think extreme carelessness, the words he used, are equivalent to gross negligence. He recommended no prosecution for lack of precedence. Which in itself is odd, why is the FBI deciding that?

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:28 AM
treason

lol

You might notice that I said it can't be proven with what we know at this time?

Are you going to actually try and contribute to the thread or Troll? Please decide soon or I will make that choice for you.

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:29 AM
Doubtful.... not with Trump as the alternative.

That's just another fallacious argument from hypocrisy. They're both lousy candidates. We'll end up with one evil or the other. Trust in the government will sink to new lows.

Cigar
07-06-2016, 08:34 AM
They're not up for election, Hillary is. I'm guessing this will continue to be continue, continue to weaken her credibility, and hurt her changes of getting elected.


I have no doubt you'll continue to force this to continue, and you're correct, 20 plus years of this campaign to discredit anything Clinton has hurt her changes of getting elected. But she has a Donald Trump - Card. :grin: and that is a Gift that keeps on Giving. :laugh:

Cigar
07-06-2016, 08:35 AM
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del
07-06-2016, 08:38 AM
You might notice that I said it can't be proven with what we know at this time?

Are you going to actually try and contribute to the thread or Troll? Please decide soon or I will make that choice for you.

play it any way you want, fruit cup

i stopped arguing with morons- now i just laugh at you

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:40 AM
If he would have done that he would not have been able to tell the American people all of the Lies, Carelessness and lawlessness that Hillary had committed. It would have been sent on to the career prosecutors and Lynch, who had cut a deal with Slick Willie a few days ago

she would have sealed the documents and the people would have never known.
Leaks could have done the rest. But, I understand your position and will consider it in the coming days.

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:42 AM
I have no doubt you'll continue to force this to continue, and you're correct, 20 plus years of this campaign to discredit anything Clinton has hurt her changes of getting elected. But she has a Donald Trump - Card. :grin: and that is a Gift that keeps on Giving. :laugh:

What can I say but Hillary is discreditable.

Trump running to her left will allow her to run to the right in as a warhawk for corporate America.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 08:42 AM
Leaks could have done the rest. But, I understand your position and will consider it in the coming days.

Please understand I am not saying that I am right. He could have become part of the problem as well. But it is just a thought.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:44 AM
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.

If that is the case, and from what we know now, it is not provable. Then Treason would be on the table.
Of course, it is provable. That is not the issue. We would be unwilling to expose the magnitude of our new weakness in public. In a past life, I prepared the annual training for subversion and espionage classes. It was not uncommon for the US to publicly try spies on far lesser charges so our intelligence sources and methods were not revealed.

It would not be treason.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:44 AM
treason

lol
Yeah. It would not be treason.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:49 AM
I think extreme carelessness, the words he used, are equivalent to gross negligence. He recommended no prosecution for lack of precedence. Which in itself is odd, why is the FBI deciding that?
While the phrases may be equal for us they are not equal in the law.
Corrupt and Cowardly Comey had two responsibilities. First to discover the facts. Second, is to make a recommendation to the (in)Justice Department based on the facts and his assessment of the likelihood of a win in court. He went beyond that when he said no reasonable prosecutor would try the case.

In his effort to save his job Corrupt and Cowardly Comey sacrificed his integrity and reputation. It will end badly for him unless Zelmo is correct in his interpretation.

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:50 AM
play it any way you want, fruit cup

i stopped arguing with morons- now i just laugh at you


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MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 08:51 AM
Please understand I am not saying that I am right. He could have become part of the problem as well. But it is just a thought.
I understand. If you are right then Comey sacrificed his reputation and career to clearly expose Crooked Hillary. It is worth considering.

Chris
07-06-2016, 08:54 AM
While the phrases may be equal for us they are not equal in the law.
Corrupt and Cowardly Comey had two responsibilities. First to discover the facts. Second, is to make a recommendation to the (in)Justice Department based on the facts and his assessment of the likelihood of a win in court. He went beyond that when he said no reasonable prosecutor would try the case.

In his effort to save his job Corrupt and Cowardly Comey sacrificed his integrity and reputation. It will end badly for him unless Zelmo is correct in his interpretation.


He went beyond that when he said no reasonable prosecutor would try the case.

This I agree with, I think he overstepped his powers. The decision should have been the AG's.

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 09:07 AM
This I agree with, I think he overstepped his powers. The decision should have been the AG's.

Wait.... You were all upset that the AG might over-ride the FBI decision to indict.. But NOW you are saying that the AG should have the power to make the decision to indict? It's pretty confusing to us sane people.. Do Republicans really know WHAT they want? I mean other than the execution of Clinton that is....

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 09:37 AM
Wait.... We're you all upset that the AG might over-ride the FBI decision to indict.. But NOW you are saying that the AG should have the power to make the decision to indict? It's pretty confusing to us sane people.. Do Republicans really know WHAT they want? I mean other than the execution of Clinton that is....

What we are saying is the Fix was in! We know that Slick Willie had his private meeting on Sunday it came out that Hillary would keep Lynch as AG.

The FBI would have turned over the documents and the recommendation and Lynch would have said nothing to see here we will not be prosecuting and I am sealing these documents, end of discussion.

Now this at least lives on.

Chris
07-06-2016, 09:39 AM
Wait.... We're you all upset that the AG might over-ride the FBI decision to indict.. But NOW you are saying that the AG should have the power to make the decision to indict? It's pretty confusing to us sane people.. Do Republicans really know WHAT they want? I mean other than the execution of Clinton that is....


After reading that convoluted run-on loaded question I have to say no I don't think you understood what I said. Try to rephase in simple understandable English. Make less assumptions about what I might feel and think, example, I'm not a Republican.

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:41 AM
I think that he did the best that he could, understanding that his superiors Lynch and Obama were not going to allow a prosecution.

Once the Fix was in, all he could do was destroy her in his speech. He did a good job at that, but appearances are bad and, and somebody has to take the fall.

Looks like it is his job to be the fall guy.

Sad Really

More garbage

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:42 AM
He's a prostitute for bending to white house political pressure and not recommending charges against hillary.

clearly she violated the secrets protection laws by allowing clasdified information to be exposed to the enemy.

Refer back to the hypocritical pussy reference.

zelmo1234
07-06-2016, 09:42 AM
More garbage

Please explain?

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:43 AM
If he Corrupt or Cowardly Comey fails to adequately explain himself the House must impeach him.

Refer back to the hypocritical pussy reference.

Chris
07-06-2016, 09:44 AM
What we are saying is the Fix was in! We know that Slick Willie had his private meeting on Sunday it came out that Hillary would keep Lynch as AG.

The FBI would have turned over the documents and the recommendation and Lynch would have said nothing to see here we will not be prosecuting and I am sealing these documents, end of discussion.

Now this at least lives on.


His announcement was unprecedented.

I think you're right, by doing this the case cannot be sealed and Congress can call for the evidence.

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:45 AM
Intent is nt required for the crime of gross negligence and mishandling of classified documents.

which hillary was guilty of as spon as she set up the unsecured private server.

Gross negligence was not in his statement.

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:47 AM
I think extreme carelessness, the words he used, are equivalent to gross negligence. He recommended no prosecution for lack of precedence. Which in itself is odd, why is the FBI deciding that?

What YOU think about verbal equivalence is irrelevant.

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:50 AM
Please explain?

Your hypothesis about Lynch and Obama and a "fix" is suppositional bullshit on your part.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 09:51 AM
Wait.... You were all upset that the AG might over-ride the FBI decision to indict.. But NOW you are saying that the AG should have the power to make the decision to indict? It's pretty confusing to us sane people.. Do Republicans really know WHAT they want? I mean other than the execution of Clinton that is....
I think you are trying too hard.

The FBI proposes charges. The Attorney General disposes cases. But yes, in the final analysis, Clinton should be executed for her crimes against the nation.

But we are no longer a just nation. A bloodless coup occurred.

domer76
07-06-2016, 09:54 AM
I think you are trying too hard.

The FBI proposes charges. The Attorney General disposes cases. But yes, in the final analysis, Clinton should be executed for her crimes against the nation.

But we are no longer a just nation. A bloodless coup occurred.

WHAT???? No blood in the streets??? How disappointing for you!

Chris
07-06-2016, 09:55 AM
Refer back to the hypocritical pussy reference.



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MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 10:05 AM
WHAT???? No blood in the streets??? How disappointing for you!
You, too, are trying too hard.

When Trump wins the coming second American revolution will be placed on hold to see what happens. If Crooked Hillary wins I believe planning will continue to move forward.

I would love nothing more than to build my next home, try my hand at micro-farming and write and publish my books. But the timing of the coming revolution is not up to me.

nathanbforrest45
07-06-2016, 10:52 AM
He simply did his job and this is the result.

If his job was appeasing the Clintons you are correct. Otherwise, not so much.

nathanbforrest45
07-06-2016, 11:00 AM
Unfortunately the electorate is not nearly as informed or intelligent as they were when Mondale was running.

The Democrats have done an excellent job destroying the educational system

Yo Quiero Hillary

nathanbforrest45
07-06-2016, 11:03 AM
https://eclosure.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/LocnessDesignsdotcom.jpg

Its not grief we are feeling, its total disgust and frustration.

nathanbforrest45
07-06-2016, 11:05 AM
Link to what? It's a picture


With words. Are the words without meaning?

nathanbforrest45
07-06-2016, 11:19 AM
Allowing state secrets to be potentially compromised is an abomination to all the citizens of this formerly great nation. It does not matter if they know for a fact secrets were stolen or passed on. The very fact they might have been is enough to have put most people in prison for committing the same offense.

However, this administration has had a history of allowing our secrets to be passed on to our enemies with a total disregard for our safety.

I firmly believe anyone who can possibly condone Clinton for this crime is as guilty of treason as she is.

Quicksilver
07-06-2016, 11:33 AM
I'm beginning to think the only Drama Queens are not the ones frequenting the Ladies Rooms.

The Sage of Main Street
07-06-2016, 11:40 AM
I can talk about you all day and never use the word "Moron". That doesn't mean people won't understand what I am saying. He described her handling of sensitive material as "extremely careless". That translates quite well into "gross negligence", which is a crime under Title 18 USC 793(f). She was afraid of leaks. Like Nixon, whom she helped drive from office, Sillary is paranoiac.

The Sage of Main Street
07-06-2016, 11:53 AM
What a hoot!! With WHO? The morons that already hate her? The majority of Americans are sick to death of this crap and are eager to move on to the election... Establishment Rethuglicans and their hired mouths on the radio and their bimbo pageant of broadcasting broads on Foxie Noose are too incompetent and self-obsessed to orchestrate the attack on the Demwits. The Directors of Drool show an absolute contempt for their audience when they appoint themselves as pitty-pat Pattons giving marching orders. Listening to the partisan media clique's intramural fraternity fight is a distraction we can do without.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 11:54 AM
I firmly believe anyone who can possibly condone Clinton for this crime is as guilty of treason as she is.
It is not treason. Treason is a very specific crime.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 11:55 AM
Establishment Rethuglicans and their hired mouths on the radio and their bimbo pageant of broadcasting broads on Foxie Noose are too incompetent and self-obsessed to orchestrate the attack on the Demwits. The Directors of Drool show an absolute contempt for their audience when they appoint themselves as pitty-pat Pattons giving marching orders. Listening to the partisan media clique's intramural fraternity fight is a distraction we can do without.
It is this kind of mindless prattle that makes your posts so easy to pass up. Good job.

AZ Jim
07-06-2016, 12:04 PM
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.Have you considered getting a little help?

nathanbforrest45
07-06-2016, 12:06 PM
It is not treason. Treason is a very specific crime.

Well, whatever she is guilty of then. Maybe what she did was perfectly acceptable, I don't know, nothing seems to matter anyway, nothing is a big deal to anyone.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 12:25 PM
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.

Have you considered getting a little help?
Help for what, specifically?

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Well, whatever she is guilty of then. Maybe what she did was perfectly acceptable, I don't know, nothing seems to matter anyway, nothing is a big deal to anyone.
She committed crimes. She must be held accountable for those crimes. But her crimes were not treason. Treason is a very specific crime.

Be of good cheer. Crooked Hillary won't win the election and will be indicted by the new AG. Look for it in March or April.

AZ Jim
07-06-2016, 01:04 PM
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.

Help for what, specifically?Maybe a little psychological help?

Subdermal
07-06-2016, 01:07 PM
With words. Are the words without meaning?

Try putting the word 'doughnut' between each one.

Peter1469
07-06-2016, 05:09 PM
The Democratic Nominee and the next President should not get security briefings? What planet do you inhabit?
She can't pass a background check.

MisterVeritis
07-06-2016, 05:18 PM
I believe there should be two trials. The first can be a public trial. The second should be a secret trial. I believe human intelligence assets, spies, were identified, captured, tortured and murdered because of her.

Help for what, specifically?

Maybe a little psychological help?
I have no need for it, thanks.

You might consider trying awareness.