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Peter1469
07-10-2016, 03:16 AM
A curveball in Trump’s Veep search: He’s seriously considering a retired general (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/09/a-curveball-in-trumps-veep-search-hes-seriously-considering-a-retired-general/)

Lt. Gen. Flynn is a registered democrat. And near the top of Trumps VP list. This guy knows how to protect classified information.


After weeks of focusing on a group of current and former elected officials in his search for a running mate, Donald Trump is increasingly intrigued by the idea of tapping retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn to project strength and know-how on national security, according to four people familiar with the vetting process.

Flynn, a registered Democrat but fierce critic of President Obama, previously ran the Defense Intelligence Agency.


The people who spoke with The Washington Post on Saturday did so on the condition of anonymity to discuss their private conversations in recent days with Trump’s confidants and campaign aides.


The turn toward a military figure is being driven by Trump himself rather than by his advisers, the people said, and comes as the real estate mogul is telling his friends that national unrest may demand a “tough and steady” presence alongside him on the ticket.

Common
07-10-2016, 03:22 AM
He needs to be very careful who he picks. Christy is extremely unpopular especially in the North East and fla.

Knowing trump he will pick someone that will hurt him

FindersKeepers
07-10-2016, 04:46 AM
A curveball in Trump’s Veep search: He’s seriously considering a retired general (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/09/a-curveball-in-trumps-veep-search-hes-seriously-considering-a-retired-general/)

Lt. Gen. Flynn is a registered democrat. And near the top of Trumps VP list. This guy knows how to protect classified information.


Flynn would be a very interesting choice. That might change the dynamic.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 05:28 AM
Trump may be able to capture the middle.

Oboe
07-10-2016, 05:40 AM
Knowing trump he will pick someone that will hurt him

You must not know Trump at all then.

zelmo1234
07-10-2016, 06:51 AM
If he is going to pick a Democrat, it should be Jim Webb

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 07:08 AM
You must not know Trump at all then.

And you know him so well?

PolWatch
07-10-2016, 07:16 AM
Why would he want someone from the military? He has already announced that he knows more about Isis than any of the generals.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 07:25 AM
It's beginning to look a lot like House of Cards...

Oboe
07-10-2016, 07:28 AM
And you know him so well?


Nice try at putting words in MY mouth. You said you know him. Deflecting again huh?

Mac-7
07-10-2016, 08:25 AM
Put Bernie sanders on the ticket as vp

kcvet
07-10-2016, 09:02 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Allen_West%2C_Official_Portrait%2C_112th_Congress. jpg/509px-Allen_West%2C_Official_Portrait%2C_112th_Congress. jpg

he'll kill em all

Tahuyaman
07-10-2016, 09:41 AM
Why would he want someone from the military? He has already announced that he knows more about Isis than any of the generals.


Actually that's not what he says. He has consistently said that he will pick really.... really terrific people to deal with ISIS.

del
07-10-2016, 10:08 AM
this could be yuge

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 10:16 AM
He should likely pick someone who can work with Congress.

del
07-10-2016, 10:17 AM
he should pick someone who has a fallback position

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:34 AM
Nice try at putting words in MY mouth. You said you know him. Deflecting again huh?

I said I know him? Where?

The clear implication of your words is that you know Trump well enough to know what he'll do.

Chloe
07-10-2016, 10:34 AM
Quite honestly he could pick Elmo from Sesame Street and it wouldn't really matter. You're electing Donald Trump for president not his VP. Same goes for Hillary Clinton. Short of the president dying in office or resigning, or needing to cast some improbable tie vote in the senate the VP is pretty much the most useless position in politics. It doesn't even really matter if this guy is giving Trump great advice, it's still Trump ultimately making the decision. Sorry to be debbie downer but it's true.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:35 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Allen_West%2C_Official_Portrait%2C_112th_Congress. jpg/509px-Allen_West%2C_Official_Portrait%2C_112th_Congress. jpg

he'll kill em all

A washed-up has-been that lost to a nutcase like Alan Grayson?

Great idea.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:36 AM
Quite honestly he could pick Elmo from Sesame Street and it wouldn't really matter. You're electing Donald Trump for president not his VP. Same goes for Hillary Clinton. Short of the president dying in office or resigning, or needing to cast some improbably tie vote in the senate the VP is pretty much the most useless position in politics. It doesn't even really matter if this guy is giving Trump great advice, it's still Trump ultimately making the decision. Sorry to be debbie downer but it's true.

That's how I feel about it. As you said, same as with Hillary. Who she picks as VP is irrelevant, whether I like them (Elizabeth Warren) or not. Particularly with strong, domineering personalities like Hillary's and Trump's. They'll be running the show.

Chloe
07-10-2016, 10:38 AM
That's how I feel about it. As you said, same as with Hillary. Who she picks as VP is irrelevant, whether I like them (Elizabeth Warren) or not. Particularly with strong, domineering personalities like Hillary's and Trump's. They'll be running the show.

I'd be curious to see how the country would end up, not just with this election, if we went back to the original way of doing it with the second place finisher being the VP :)

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:38 AM
The Vice Presidential pick hasn't been relevant since 1944.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:39 AM
I'd be curious to see how the country would end up, not just with this election, if we went back to the original way of doing it with the second place finisher being the VP :)

LOL...Hillary Clinton with Bernie Sanders as VP, and Donald Trump with Ted Cruz as VP.

That would make things interesting :tongue:

Chloe
07-10-2016, 10:42 AM
LOL...Hillary Clinton with Bernie Sanders as VP, and Donald Trump with Ted Cruz as VP.

That would make things interesting :tongue:

or the loser of the presidential election being the VP for the winner.

kcvet
07-10-2016, 10:43 AM
Actually that's not what he says. He has consistently said that he will pick really.... really terrific people to deal with ISIS.

I prefer the term exterminate ISIS

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 10:44 AM
he should pick someone who has a fallback position


The retirement of a Lt. Gen. is a solid fall back position.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:46 AM
or the loser of the presidential election being the VP for the winner.

Now that would really make things interesting.

Clinton/Trump 2016? I guess the bright side is they'd only last one term and then we could clean house.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 10:47 AM
A washed-up has-been that lost to a nutcase like Alan Grayson?

Great idea.

His voting district was gerrymandered so he was sure to lose.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 10:49 AM
I prefer the term exterminate ISIS

Exterminate would be the goal.

What ways and means do you use to achieve the goal.

Strategic planing = Ends, Ways, and Means.

domer76
07-10-2016, 10:49 AM
The retirement of a Lt. Gen. is a solid fall back position.

Right. Another Stockdale.

"Who am I and what am I doing here?"

lol

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:50 AM
His voting district was gerrymandered so he was sure to lose.

It was gerrymandered by Republicans and even after the gerrymandering, it's still a toss-up district.

He lost to a nutcase because he's a terrible campaigner. Like Rubio, he should have focused on doing the job he was elected to do before he tried to boost his profile for another elected office.

domer76
07-10-2016, 10:51 AM
His voting district was gerrymandered so he was sure to lose.

It had nothing to do with him being a total looney bin.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:52 AM
I prefer the term exterminate ISIS

ISIS is a terrorist group, they can't be exterminated.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:53 AM
It had nothing to do with him being a total looney bin.

Obviously it didn't, or else they wouldn't have replaced him with an even bigger total looney bin.

Oboe
07-10-2016, 10:55 AM
It's beginning to look a lot like House of Cards...

I think you must be referring to Clinton's so-called "presidency". Trump knows what he is doing, which is and will be to surround himself with people who know how to do things, so when a problem comes up, he won't have to blame it on a youtube video.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 10:59 AM
I think you must be referring to Clinton's so-called "presidency". Trump knows what he is doing, which is and will be to surround himself with people who know how to do things, so when a problem comes up, he won't have to blame it on a youtube video.

I'm referring to this election cycle, which includes both Clinton and Trump campaigns.

domer76
07-10-2016, 11:09 AM
Obviously it didn't, or else they wouldn't have replaced him with an even bigger total looney bin.

I don't know anything about Murphy. Sounds like a moderate. West is an off the charts certifiable nutcase. Lucky to not get a dishonorable.

domer76
07-10-2016, 11:10 AM
His voting district was gerrymandered so he was sure to lose.

(laughing) A Republican bitching about gerrymandering!

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 11:25 AM
Right. Another Stockdale.

"Who am I and what am I doing here?"

lol

That was awkward to watch.

So you have met Lt. Gen. Flynn and know he will fail in public speaking. Cool story.

lol

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 11:25 AM
It was gerrymandered by Republicans and even after the gerrymandering, it's still a toss-up district.

He lost to a nutcase because he's a terrible campaigner. Like Rubio, he should have focused on doing the job he was elected to do before he tried to boost his profile for another elected office.

The GOP wanted him out, because he didn't play ball in the House.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 11:28 AM
I don't know anything about Murphy. Sounds like a moderate. West is an off the charts certifiable nutcase. Lucky to not get a dishonorable.

Officers don't get dishonorable discharges....

LTC West is an American hero. Part of the reason the hard left hates him.

zelmo1234
07-10-2016, 11:29 AM
He should likely pick someone who can work with Congress.

If he gets elected, I think he will be able to Go to the people like Reagan did, when congress won't get off their duff

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 11:29 AM
(laughing) A Republican bitching about gerrymandering!

What part of the walnut in your head told you to conclude that I was "bitching?"

zelmo1234
07-10-2016, 11:34 AM
The Vice Presidential pick hasn't been relevant since 1944.

But it could be this time! The nation is completely torn in 2.

Trump or Hillary as president are going to have nearly half of the population will out right hate then and another large percentage will not care either way.

Beside the assignation threats, because of this divide. But Trump could quite if he goes home. and Hillary is so dishonest she could be impeached.

bajisima
07-10-2016, 11:35 AM
Trump may be able to capture the middle.

Its also intriguing to those who aren't political junkies but are just "average" voters. A general and a registered democrat could play well there, looks like he is more bipartisan. Of course some conservatives will go bonkers.

bajisima
07-10-2016, 11:38 AM
Quite honestly he could pick Elmo from Sesame Street and it wouldn't really matter. You're electing Donald Trump for president not his VP. Same goes for Hillary Clinton. Short of the president dying in office or resigning, or needing to cast some improbable tie vote in the senate the VP is pretty much the most useless position in politics. It doesn't even really matter if this guy is giving Trump great advice, it's still Trump ultimately making the decision. Sorry to be debbie downer but it's true.


True although I would think a good pick for Trump could pick up a few votes. Clinton also has to be careful because she has angered the progressive base. They want a progressive VP and if she goes full blue dog moderate and picks Tim Kaine, that could hurt her and they could reach out to Stein.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 11:39 AM
True although I would think a good pick for Trump could pick up a few votes. Clinton also has to be careful because she has angered the progressive base. They want a progressive VP and if she goes full blue dog moderate and picks Tim Kaine, that could hurt her and they could reach out to Stein.

Hillary has a problem. There are not enough people willing to vote for someone who the FBI Director described as a pos to get her elected.

Fans will be fans though.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 11:45 AM
I don't know anything about Murphy. Sounds like a moderate. West is an off the charts certifiable nutcase. Lucky to not get a dishonorable.

You're right, for some reason I thought Alan Grayson took West's seat, but it was Patrick Murphy. I was referring to Grayson.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 11:46 AM
The GOP wanted him out, because he didn't play ball in the House.

He didn't do much of anything in the House, other than jump in the limelight every chance he got.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 11:49 AM
But it could be this time! The nation is completely torn in 2.

Trump or Hillary as president are going to have nearly half of the population will out right hate then and another large percentage will not care either way.

Beside the assignation threats, because of this divide. But Trump could quite if he goes home. and Hillary is so dishonest she could be impeached.

In 1944 we knew for a fact FDR wasn't going to last a full term. We can only speculate of the possibility that Hillary or Trump could be assassinated, we don't know for a fact.

Personally, with security the way it is, I highly doubt either of them will be assassinated. Trump or Clinton will be one term presidents.

bajisima
07-10-2016, 11:55 AM
Hillary has a problem. There are not enough people willing to vote for someone who the FBI Director described as a pos to get her elected.

Fans will be fans though.

Its really hard to say. It could depend right up until the election as to what happens, a terrorist attack on US soil or a bum stock market can swing things wildly. I have a couple of friends who had been leaning Clinton but just lost their jobs as the company moved overseas. They now are against trade agreements and while they don't like Trump, they hate what trade agreements have done. They would probably prefer Sanders but he isn't in the game anymore.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 12:03 PM
He didn't do much of anything in the House, other than jump in the limelight every chance he got.

He didn't toe the line. That is why he was pushed out.

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 12:12 PM
He didn't toe the line. That is why he was pushed out.

Well, if that's the case, this is an example where I agree with the establishment. He pushed hard for the blasphemous NDAA of 2012 and extensions to the PATRIOT Act. He was a neocon like any other, so I won't shed tears at his parting.

del
07-10-2016, 12:56 PM
The retirement of a Lt. Gen. is a solid fall back position.

then he'd be perfect

a little summer/fall project and then back to the farm in early november

del
07-10-2016, 12:58 PM
His voting district was gerrymandered so he was sure to lose.

yes, the republicans gerrymandered him out of his seat.

lol

del
07-10-2016, 12:59 PM
He didn't toe the line. That is why he was pushed out.

he didn't do shit

that's why he was voted out

kcvet
07-10-2016, 12:59 PM
then he'd be perfect

a little summer/fall project and then back to the farm in early november

and never fired a shot

kcvet
07-10-2016, 01:41 PM
I said I know him? Where?

The clear implication of your words is that you know Trump well enough to know what he'll do.

the same for Osama. and look what he did.

kcvet
07-10-2016, 01:45 PM
The GOP wanted him out, because he didn't play ball in the House.

and he can't be bought which burns their ass

Green Arrow
07-10-2016, 01:48 PM
the same for Osama. and look what he did.

Please explain how your comment makes any sense given what I said.

domer76
07-10-2016, 01:49 PM
The GOP wanted him out, because he didn't play ball in the House.

Insane people usually don't get along with anybody.

domer76
07-10-2016, 01:49 PM
Officers don't get dishonorable discharges....

LTC West is an American hero. Part of the reason the hard left hates him.

No hate here, but heroes don't get run out.

domer76
07-10-2016, 01:51 PM
What part of the walnut in your head told you to conclude that I was "bitching?"

I "read between the lines." Does that sound familiar? lol

Chris
07-10-2016, 02:03 PM
Trump may be able to capture the middle.

Nominating a Democrat, he could. I keep saying he'll run to the left of the lying war-hark 0.1%er Hillary.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 04:04 PM
yes, the republicans gerrymandered him out of his seat.

lol

Had you been paying attention you would not have had to ask that question.

He didn't fall in line with the establishment.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 04:05 PM
he didn't do shit

that's why he was voted out

Congressmen are 1 of 435. He could have done a lot had he voted as the establishment dictated.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 04:07 PM
No hate here, but heroes don't get run out.

You aren't qualified to have an opinion about the military.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 04:08 PM
I "read between the lines." Does that sound familiar? lol

Sure thing Sally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ

del
07-10-2016, 04:13 PM
Had you been paying attention you would not have had to ask that question.

He didn't fall in line with the establishment.

he was an asshat

del
07-10-2016, 04:14 PM
Congressmen are 1 of 435. He could have done a lot had he voted as the establishment dictated.

try one of the other 87 keys, napoleon

domer76
07-10-2016, 04:15 PM
You aren't qualified to have an opinion about the military.

Wrong

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 04:19 PM
he was an asshat

The establishment agrees with you 100%. :wink:

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 04:19 PM
Wrong

Actually, no..., I am correct. Dismissed civilian.

domer76
07-10-2016, 04:37 PM
Actually, no..., I am correct. Dismissed civilian.

Wrong again, simpleton.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 05:04 PM
Wrong again, simpleton.

Untrue.

del
07-10-2016, 05:05 PM
Untrue.

you could be, if you studied hard.

Peter1469
07-10-2016, 05:11 PM
you could be, if you studied hard.

No paint to chip?

birddog
07-10-2016, 06:32 PM
Actually, no..., I am correct. Dismissed civilian.


So what's the deal? Did they not let domer in the military because they discovered he was a chronic, pathological liar back then?

Subdermal
07-10-2016, 07:16 PM
So what's the deal? Did they not let domer in the military because they discovered he was a chronic, pathological liar back then?

That, and he sh!t his pants every time a gun discharged...

domer76
07-10-2016, 07:50 PM
That, and he sh!t his pants every time a gun discharged...

I fired them for a living, dickhead.

Subdermal
07-11-2016, 09:35 AM
I fired them for a living, dickhead.

Retired, with lifetime supply of Depends, right?

:D

domer76
07-11-2016, 09:42 AM
Retired, with lifetime supply of Depends, right?

:D

For a living, shitweasel.

Peter1469
07-11-2016, 03:37 PM
Looks like Gov Peince may get the VP job.

domer76
07-11-2016, 03:44 PM
Looks like Gov Peince may get the VP job.

Poor fuck. There goes his career.

Peter1469
07-11-2016, 05:59 PM
Poor fuck. There goes his career.

He can fall back on his governor job.

Subdermal
07-11-2016, 09:01 PM
For a living, $#@!weasel.

Ok.

Retired carny, with a lifetime supply of Depends.

Noted.

silvereyes
07-12-2016, 12:51 AM
You aren't qualified to have an opinion about the military.

Why not?

domer76
07-12-2016, 02:21 AM
Ok.

Retired carny, with a lifetime supply of Depends.

Noted.

For a living, dbag

Peter1469
07-12-2016, 04:44 AM
Why not?

Just look at him....

Tahuyaman
07-12-2016, 12:23 PM
Wow......