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Bo-4
07-12-2016, 11:17 AM
RNC Platform Planks:

Porn - Public health crisis and MENACE!
LGBT's - No same sex marriage!!
LGBT Children - Immediate CONVERSION THERAPY!!!
Pot - NO decriminalization!!!!

And an actual quote on MJ: "All the mass killings that are taking place, they are young boys from divorced families and they are smoking MARIJUANA!!!!!"

Yep, social cons are busy little beavers who never EVER learn. :rolleyes:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/07/12/Republican-activists-battle-over-social-issues-on-party-platform/4851468308522/

Cigar
07-12-2016, 11:30 AM
They just can't help themselves

exotix
07-12-2016, 11:33 AM
What else does the GOP do besides hold Billary hearings ... and passing a bill in the middle of the night that allows financial advisers to rip off retirees while terrorists massacre people ?

Bo-4
07-12-2016, 11:49 AM
What else does the GOP do besides hold Billary hearings ... and passing a bill in the middle of the night that allows financial advisers to rip off retirees while terrorists massacre people ?

That about covers it:

1) Investigate people you don't like
2) Do favors for your billionaire overlords
3) Stupid social issues

A day that goes by without performing at least one of these functions is a day wasted.

Adelaide
07-12-2016, 11:54 AM
Some of the antiquated beliefs of the social conservatives within the GOP are part of the reason many millennials are deciding they best align with libertarians or another third party. Millennials are now the largest voting block so you would think that the GOP would reign in their more socially conservative members.

Bo-4
07-12-2016, 11:56 AM
Some of the antiquated beliefs of the social conservatives within the GOP are part of the reason many millennials are deciding they best align with libertarians or another third party. Millennials are now the largest voting block so you would think that the GOP would reign in their more socially conservative members.

Priebus tried that in the 2012 autopsy report. Cool it with the social issues people.

Did they listen?

Nope

This is why the Republican Party is dying a slow death before our very eyes.

Tahuyaman
07-12-2016, 11:58 AM
Party platforms are meaningless. They are routinely ignored and disregarded.

PolWatch
07-13-2016, 07:50 AM
I find it unbelievable that the real problems that face this nation are being ignored by the GOP in favor of pandering to the extreme right of the party. Fiscal responsibility & America's longest running war is ignored in favor of forcing religious beliefs on others? Small government includes a Department of Social Enforcement? The only thing more ridiculous than this proposed platform is the idea that Trump embodies these principles.

Bo-4
07-13-2016, 08:39 AM
I find it unbelievable that the real problems that face this nation are being ignored by the GOP in favor of pandering to the extreme right of the party. Fiscal responsibility & America's longest running war is ignored in favor of forcing religious beliefs on others? Small government includes a Department of Social Enforcement? The only thing more ridiculous than this proposed platform is the idea that Trump embodies these principles.

Word has it that Trump pretty much stepped aside to allow the social cons to add all their stupid pet planks. It's not like he's going to pay attention to them or anything. The only question remains whether he'll pick Mr. Holier Than Thou Governor Pence as his veep. I rather doubt it - the dude is very unpopular in Indiana and has buttloads of baggage. Of course they hate Christie in NJ and he's not done with Bridgegate. Newt? Nice, the six marriage ticket that's a combined 143 years old. :)

Ransom
07-13-2016, 09:10 AM
Party platforms are meaningless. They are routinely ignored and disregarded.

Actually I believe the last one implemented was probably Newt Gingrich's Contract with America.

Isn't he a Vice Presidential Candidate?

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 04:48 PM
Conservatives should form a party that rejects Statism in all of its guises. The religious right should call themselves what they are - liberal / statist.

hanger4
07-13-2016, 07:12 PM
Call me the Republican Platform is finalized and not speculation on what may or may not be in it.

Dr. Who
07-13-2016, 07:59 PM
Conservatives should form a party that rejects Statism in all of its guises. The religious right should call themselves what they are - liberal / statist.
The problem is trying to make the GOP reflect all conservatives. They should either be a social con party or a fiscal con party and let the other have their own party. I don't think that the GOP conservatives of any stripe are non-statist. That would be the libertarians.

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 08:42 PM
The problem is trying to make the GOP reflect all conservatives. They should either be a social con party or a fiscal con party and let the other have their own party. I don't think that the GOP conservatives of any stripe are non-statist. That would be the libertarians.

The religious right are Statists. They want to use the power of the State to enforce their view of morality.

The GOP could be a powerful party without them. A flood of people from the Democrats would join. The single issue pro-life people who have no other political position, except they hate the taxes that drain their pay checks.

Dr. Who
07-13-2016, 08:54 PM
The religious right are Statists. They want to use the power of the State to enforce their view of morality.

The GOP could be a powerful party without them. A flood of people from the Democrats would join. The single issue pro-life people who have no other political position, except they hate the taxes that drain their pay checks.
What about the neocons in the GOP? They are statists.

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 08:55 PM
What about the neocons in the GOP? They are statists.

They are voting for Hillary - at least a lot of them.

They are not conservatives in the modern American sense of the word.

exotix
07-13-2016, 08:57 PM
Conservatives should form a party that rejects Statism in all of its guises. The religious right should call themselves what they are - liberal / statist.
Not even a retard in moms basement could conjure-up this one ... LOL

Dr. Who
07-13-2016, 08:57 PM
They are voting for Hillary - at least a lot of them.

They are not conservatives in the modern American sense of the word.
They may be somewhat fiscally conservative. However that is part of the problem with the GOP - it has no real identity.

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 09:11 PM
Not even a retard in moms basement could conjure-up this one ... LOL

Go back to sleep, exo.

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 09:13 PM
They may be somewhat fiscally conservative. However that is part of the problem with the GOP - it has no real identity.

That is a symptom of a two party system. We have what would be several parties rolled into two.

The democrats are a loosely knit organization of victim groups.

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 09:14 PM
They may be somewhat fiscally conservative. However that is part of the problem with the GOP - it has no real identity.
They aren't fiscally conservative outside of the US. They want to invade and occupy everywhere.

Dr. Who
07-13-2016, 09:20 PM
They aren't fiscally conservative outside of the US. They want to invade and occupy everywhere.
True.

Dr. Who
07-13-2016, 09:21 PM
That is a symptom of a two party system. We have what would be several parties rolled into two.

The democrats are a loosely knit organization of victim groups.
Yes, but the dems are a bit more cohesive.

Peter1469
07-13-2016, 09:32 PM
Yes, but the dems are a bit more cohesive.


Right. They want redress of their perceived grievances using the power of the State.

Bo-4
07-14-2016, 09:13 AM
Not even a retard in moms basement could conjure-up this one ... LOL

This one stumped me as well.

Any characteristic Peter doesn't personally identify with when it comes to a conservative?

He writes them off as liberal statists.

Thus, guys like James Dobson, Tony Perkins, and Rick Santorum are Libby-Lib-Lubruls!

Where's Ayn Rand when you need her?
:biglaugh:

Tahuyaman
07-14-2016, 09:15 AM
Most social issues are not the business of the federal government. I would like to see either party acknowledge that.

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 11:03 AM
This one stumped me as well.

Any characteristic Peter doesn't personally identify with when it comes to a conservative?

He writes them off as liberal statists.

Thus, guys like James Dobson, Tony Perkins, and Rick Santorum are Libby-Lib-Lubruls!

Where's Ayn Rand when you need her?
:biglaugh:

It ought not be a surprise. Here it goes again for the millionth time:

R = zero government
L = total government
add government as you move right to left.


All are on notice that this is the political model that I use in casual conversation. If you refuse to understand it, you are not going to comprehend my posts on political issues and you would be best served in not commenting whatsoever.

Bo-4
07-14-2016, 11:17 AM
It ought not be a surprise. Here it goes again for the millionth time:

R = zero government
L = total government
add government as you move right to left.

All are on notice that this is the political model that I use in casual conversation. If you refuse to understand it, you are not going to comprehend my posts on political issues and you would be best served in not commenting whatsoever.

Let me make sure i understand. The social issue cons who want to control all aspects of a woman's womb are lefties?

Mini Me
07-14-2016, 01:50 PM
Conservatives should form a party that rejects Statism in all of its guises. The religious right should call themselves what they are - liberal / statist.

Lets try: Facsist/Taliban!

I soundly REJECT any form of "theocracy"!!!

Mini Me
07-14-2016, 01:55 PM
The religious right are Statists. They want to use the power of the State to enforce their view of morality.

The GOP could be a powerful party without them. A flood of people from the Democrats would join. The single issue pro-life people who have no other political position, except they hate the taxes that drain their pay checks.

It's impossible to have ANY gov.t without statism!!!
Gov.t IS statism! Perhaps you would prefer ANARCHY?

Mini Me
07-14-2016, 01:59 PM
They are voting for Hillary - at least a lot of them.

They are not conservatives in the modern American sense of the word.

They are Zionist dual citizens of 'murica and Izrahell forcing us to fight Izrahell's wars for them!
In other words; TRAITORS!!!

http://batr.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Neoconservatives.jpg

Bo-4
07-14-2016, 02:12 PM
Call me the Republican Platform is finalized and not speculation on what may or may not be in it.

Oh we pretty much know - it was written primarily by America's number one bigot Tony Perkins, completely ignores the 2013 GOP autopsy report and will be out on Monday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-platform-turns-2013-rnc-autopsy-on-its-head/2016/07/14/cae7cbc0-49cb-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:16 PM
Let me make sure i understand. The social issue cons who want to control all aspects of a woman's womb are lefties?

They are statists.

Don't try to put my model onto what you were taught. So far as it goes you can swap out left and right and my model works just fine.

Left = zero government. Move right as you add government until you get to total government on the Right.

Seriously, has anyone here taken a non-basic political science class. Graduate level or a serious undergrad course?

I am shocked that these concepts produce glazed eyes. Oh well. Public schools, I suppose.

Mini Me
07-14-2016, 02:16 PM
Right. They want redress of their perceived grievances using the power of the State.

They are more focused upon all the social issues we have, but they badly need Republican support to do so!
Which is NEVER forthcoming from the Rethugs!

In the meantime, the USA dissolves into social decay and renegade capitalism and perpetual warfare in the Sand Box!

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:17 PM
Lets try: Facsist/Taliban!

I soundly REJECT any form of "theocracy"!!!

Great. Grow and soundly reject secular Statism as well. :wink:

Bo-4
07-14-2016, 02:19 PM
They are statists.

Don't try to put my model onto what you were taught. So far as it goes you can swap out left and right and my model works just fine.

Left = zero government. Move right as you add government until you get to total government on the Right.

Seriously, has anyone here taken a non-basic political science class. Graduate level or a serious undergrad course?

I am shocked that these concepts produce glazed eyes. Oh well. Public schools, I suppose.

Did you attend all private schools Peter?

Mini Me
07-14-2016, 02:19 PM
It ought not be a surprise. Here it goes again for the millionth time:

R = zero government
L = total government
add government as you move right to left.


All are on notice that this is the political model that I use in casual conversation. If you refuse to understand it, you are not going to comprehend my posts on political issues and you would be best served in not commenting whatsoever.

Oh? In other words we should SHUT THE FUCK UP?
Who appointed you the board Dick Tator?

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:20 PM
It's impossible to have ANY gov.t without statism!!!
Gov.t IS statism! Perhaps you would prefer ANARCHY?

Good question.

I believe in government. Just federalism and limited government. When I use the term Statism, I am referring to people who want the central government to have unfettered control. More power.

If our current system collapses I will work for a more libertarian solution for rebuilding.

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:20 PM
They are Zionist dual citizens of 'murica and Izrahell forcing us to fight Izrahell's wars for them!
In other words; TRAITORS!!!

http://batr.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Neoconservatives.jpg



Hitler did survive WWII, but that is not reason to take up his cause. Please cease.

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:22 PM
They are more focused upon all the social issues we have, but they badly need Republican support to do so!
Which is NEVER forthcoming from the Rethugs!

In the meantime, the USA dissolves into social decay and renegade capitalism and perpetual warfare in the Sand Box!



Let's form a political party that kicks out all Statists. Self sufficient people and free people only.

del
07-14-2016, 02:23 PM
They are statists.

Don't try to put my model onto what you were taught. So far as it goes you can swap out left and right and my model works just fine.

Left = zero government. Move right as you add government until you get to total government on the Right.

Seriously, has anyone here taken a non-basic political science class. Graduate level or a serious undergrad course?

I am shocked that these concepts produce glazed eyes. Oh well. Public schools, I suppose.



It ought not be a surprise. Here it goes again for the millionth time:

R = zero government
L = total government
add government as you move right to left.


All are on notice that this is the political model that I use in casual conversation. If you refuse to understand it, you are not going to comprehend my posts on political issues and you would be best served in not commenting whatsoever.

i don't think we're the ones that are confused, petey

of course, you also tried to tell me that all public figures are public officials, so it's not like i expect much from you.

carry on

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:25 PM
Did you attend all private schools Peter?

No. Only law school.

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:26 PM
i don't think we're the ones that are confused, petey

of course, you also tried to tell me that all public figures are public officials, so it's not like i expect much from you.

carry on


Incorrect. I have posted articles from political science publications but I guess they are above most here.

I will try to dumb it down for you guys. No promises.

Peter1469
07-14-2016, 02:27 PM
The left side of the IQ bell curve believe that there are Statists on the right of them, Statists on the left of them. But they are in the middle and understand it all.

Right... :smiley:

Quicksilver
07-14-2016, 02:28 PM
That about covers it:

1) Investigate people you don't like
2) Do favors for your billionaire overlords
3) Stupid social issues

A day that goes by without performing at least one of these functions is a day wasted.

How about the endless "Repeal Obamacare" legislation? THAT was productive... wasn't it?

Bo-4
07-14-2016, 02:31 PM
The left side of the IQ bell curve believe that there are Statists on the right of them, Statists on the left of them. But they are in the middle and understand it all.

Right... :smiley:

That'll be enough Ayn Rand for you Peter. Only a misguided sort would believe that social cons are lefties. ;-)

Definition of statism:




concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry

Mini Me
07-15-2016, 05:44 PM
Government ownership of industry is socialism! So what about this statism nonsense?

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 05:46 PM
That'll be enough Ayn Rand for you Peter. Only a misguided sort would believe that social cons are lefties. ;-)

Definition of statism:




concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry


Your definition agrees with me. :wink:

del
07-15-2016, 05:50 PM
Incorrect. I have posted articles from political science publications but I guess they are above most here.

I will try to dumb it down for you guys. No promises.

yes, no one can keep up with the intellectual juggernaut that is you.

i posted your own words, petey

read them and get back to me

is it left zero government or right zero government?- you can't seem to make up your mind.

Mini Me
07-15-2016, 05:51 PM
Hitler did survive WWII, but that is not reason to take up his cause. Please cease.

So you're going all GODWIN on me? This has NOTHING to do with Hitler!I am all for the survival of Israel, and just against extreme Zionism, and APARTHEID that Bibi practices!Many Israelites and Jews agree with me!

With Bibi and the Likud, there were be no two state solution!

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 05:52 PM
yes, no one can keep up with the intellectual juggernaut that is you.

i posted your own words, petey

read them and get back to me

is it left zero government or right zero government?- you can't seem to make up your mind.

Nice try Navy.

All I said is that the label left or right is not important. I understand that the dim fall apart over it. Why? Probably because they are stupid.

One side is zero government- the other side is total government. In between is, you guessed it, going from one extreme to the other.

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 05:54 PM
So you're going all GODWIN on me? This has NOTHING to do with Hitler!I am all for the survival of Israel, and just against extreme Zionism, and APARTHEID that Bibi practices!Many Israelites and Jews agree with me!

With Bibi and the Likud, there were be no two state solution!

I have talked to Israelis. High level military. They have zero interest in peace. They want victory.

I say go for it.

silvereyes
07-15-2016, 06:03 PM
Incorrect. I have posted articles from political science publications but I guess they are above most here.

I will try to dumb it down for you guys. No promises.


yes, no one can keep up with the intellectual juggernaut that is you.

i posted your own words, petey

read them and get back to me

is it left zero government or right zero government?- you can't seem to make up your mind.

Do yall know who yall sound like? Codename and AnimalMother.

Sheesh.

Mini Me
07-15-2016, 08:47 PM
I have talked to Israelis. High level military. They have zero interest in peace. They want victory.

I say go for it.

"Zero interest in peace"Thanx for making my point for me!
Is victory the extermination of Palestinians?

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 08:49 PM
"Zero interest in peace"Thanx for making my point for me!
Is victory the extermination of Palestinians?


No. Expulsion to Jordan would work just fine.

domer76
07-15-2016, 08:51 PM
RNC Platform Planks:

Porn - Public health crisis and MENACE!
LGBT's - No same sex marriage!!
LGBT Children - Immediate CONVERSION THERAPY!!!
Pot - NO decriminalization!!!!

And an actual quote on MJ: "All the mass killings that are taking place, they are young boys from divorced families and they are smoking MARIJUANA!!!!!"

Yep, social cons are busy little beavers who never EVER learn. :rolleyes:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/07/12/Republican-activists-battle-over-social-issues-on-party-platform/4851468308522/

Do you think the conservatives will want the CDC to investigate the porn health crisis? lol

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 08:53 PM
Do you think the conservatives will want the CDC to investigate the porn health crisis? lol

More likely they want the government to stop spending our money.

domer76
07-15-2016, 08:58 PM
More likely they want the government to stop spending our money.

They haven't demonstrated that.

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 09:11 PM
They haven't demonstrated that.

Fiscal conservatives have. Join the party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA

Mini Me
07-15-2016, 10:12 PM
No. Expulsion to Jordan would work just fine.

Have you ever asked the Palestinians what they want? Or does it even matter to you?

Are you Jewish?

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 10:16 PM
Have you ever asked the Palestinians what they want? Or does it even matter to you?

Are you Jewish?


I am not Jewish, although I have been in a lot of Jewish women. Does that count?

Mini Me
07-15-2016, 10:28 PM
I am not Jewish, although I have been in a lot of Jewish women. Does that count?

WOW! I'm impressed! A super stud!You should fly with Trump and Slick on Epsteins's Lolita Express!

del
07-15-2016, 10:28 PM
stay classy, petey

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 10:28 PM
WOW! I'm impressed! A super stud!You should fly with Trump and Slick on Epsteins's Lolita Express!


Me and Bill.

silvereyes
07-15-2016, 10:34 PM
I am not Jewish, although I have been in a lot of Jewish women. Does that count?

"Been IN alot of Jewish women"...i know where your mind is...the gutter. Lol

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 10:35 PM
"Been IN alot of Jewish women"...i know where your mind is...the gutter. Lol

Just life. Not the gutter.

Mini Me
07-15-2016, 10:41 PM
Hitler did survive WWII, but that is not reason to take up his cause. Please cease.

Oh, Hitler survived? I heard he is driving a cab in Brooklyn, and his name is Cy Goldberg! Where do you think he is?

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 10:45 PM
Oh, Hitler survived? I heard he is driving a cab in Brooklyn, and his name is Cy Goldberg! Where do you think he is?

He died in Argentina.

silvereyes
07-15-2016, 10:56 PM
He died in Argentina.

No, he died in Berlin.

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 10:56 PM
No, he died in Berlin.

He escaped.

silvereyes
07-15-2016, 10:59 PM
Nope.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/adolf-hitler-commits-suicide-in-his-underground-bunker

Peter1469
07-15-2016, 11:02 PM
That was a double. Hitler moved to South America (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/455810/The-INCREDIBLE-picture-that-proves-Adolf-Hitler-lived-to-95-with-his-Brazilian-lover).

silvereyes
07-15-2016, 11:14 PM
Yah, and Elvis is working the fryolator at Whataburger.

Mini Me
07-16-2016, 09:44 PM
That was a double. Hitler moved to South America (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/455810/The-INCREDIBLE-picture-that-proves-Adolf-Hitler-lived-to-95-with-his-Brazilian-lover).

You must have watched that TV series; "Finding Hitler"! It was quite good, and they traced how he made his way to S. America via submarine, then where he stayed in Argentina. It makes sense, as there is no way he would have wanted to stay in Germany with the Allies and Red Army moving in.

domer76
07-16-2016, 10:27 PM
That was a double. Hitler moved to South America (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/455810/The-INCREDIBLE-picture-that-proves-Adolf-Hitler-lived-to-95-with-his-Brazilian-lover).

Put away the bottle, get the tin foil hat, stay away from the conspiracy sites. You have no business being in your position with such delusions.

Tahuyaman
07-16-2016, 11:29 PM
They just can't help themselves

Democrats don't disagree on social issues?

Maybe not. Complete mind numbed goose stepping agreement is the only thing they respect. Agree or be silenced.

Tahuyaman
07-16-2016, 11:30 PM
That was a double. Hitler moved to South America (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/455810/The-INCREDIBLE-picture-that-proves-Adolf-Hitler-lived-to-95-with-his-Brazilian-lover).

The Boys From Brazil.

AZ Jim
07-16-2016, 11:41 PM
He escaped.I think your tin hat is defective, pete....

Peter1469
07-17-2016, 04:04 AM
Ratlines (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099282/How-Nazi-used-ratline-escape-route-flee-South-America-war-daughter-woman-seduced.html).

Book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0081HDYQ6/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#nav-subnav)

FindersKeepers
07-17-2016, 05:50 AM
That was a double. Hitler moved to South America (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/455810/The-INCREDIBLE-picture-that-proves-Adolf-Hitler-lived-to-95-with-his-Brazilian-lover).

My dad was with the company (Hell on Wheels) that was just on the other side of the Rhine when the Russians were taking down the Third Reich. A couple weeks after that -- US troops were officially allowed in, but they'd been unofficially slipping in and out since they made camp.

We have a photo of my dad in front of the bombed parts of the Chancellery, as the Americans stayed on to assist the Russians.

He said at the time, there was no mention of Hitler's body having been found. In fact, the information then was that Hitler had flown out, perhaps to Argentina.

The blurry photo that is supposed to be Hitler isn't real convincing, and even if it is Hitler, it's odd that he'd shoot himself in the middle of the forehead. That's just not a typical suicide shot.

At any rate, it wasn't until a few months later that the idea that Hitler perished by his own hand came out.

donttread
07-17-2016, 06:38 AM
What else does the GOP do besides hold Billary hearings ... and passing a bill in the middle of the night that allows financial advisers to rip off retirees while terrorists massacre people ?

What else? They collude with the dems to pretend to be two parties but once in office do exactly the same things ( Like Bushbama) because they've sold their souls to the same masters. Hard work actually.

Tahuyaman
07-17-2016, 10:17 AM
That was a double. Hitler moved to South America (http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/455810/The-INCREDIBLE-picture-that-proves-Adolf-Hitler-lived-to-95-with-his-Brazilian-lover).


The Boys From Brazil.


I think your tin hat is defective, pete....


Ratlines (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099282/How-Nazi-used-ratline-escape-route-flee-South-America-war-daughter-woman-seduced.html).

Book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0081HDYQ6/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#nav-subnav)
AZ Jim should change his name to EZ Jim.

Tahuyaman
07-17-2016, 10:24 AM
The existence of this thread should demonstrate clearly that Liberals don't see any use in debate or disagreement. Complete and total agreement is demanded. They actually openly show disrespect for discussion and debate. They are totalitarians at heart.

Peter1469
07-17-2016, 10:50 AM
The existence of this thread should demonstrate clearly that Liberals don't see any use in debate or disagreement. Complete and total agreement is demanded. They actually openly show disrespect for discussion and debate. They are totalitarians at heart.

We talk them down hard.