Harvard Study on Police Shootings and Race Offers Shocking Conclusion

[Subdermal]

This needs its own thread.

There is a dangerous distortion taking place at the hands of the leftist media and race hustlers - but I repeat myself.

They are promulgating the narrative that there is some sort of injustice taking place against blacks at the hands of white cops. The problem is that it this claim is totally fabricated, and that means that there is a motivation for it.

Why would those who claim that they are 'uniters' actively portraying something which is a lie, and is absolutely fracturing our society as a consequence?

Because they do not want unity. They want to defeat their political adversaries, and those adversaries are white and on the right.

Harvard Economist Finds NO POLICE BIAS In Shooting Incidents Involving Blacks (http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28107/)

So. If there is no bias, then why the FOCK are leftists in a tizzy? Are you easily led? Lemmings? Evil?

[Cigar]

:icon_thumright: Good to know ... thanks for the update

Now the right believes science :laugh:

[exotix]

Here's racisss mass-murderer Dylan Roof arrested with Kid Gloves ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09nqCFaCvk

[Subdermal]

:icon_thumright: Good to know ... thanks for the update

Now the right believes science :laugh:

:facepalm:

How does this study alter your belief on this matter, Cigar?

[Subdermal]

Here's racisss mass-murderer Dylan Roof arrested with Kid Gloves ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09nqCFaCvk

And? OJ Simpson was actually giving autographs to the police escorts that arrived at his mansion to arrest him. Single anecdotes are meaningless; one can find one to support any position.

Make a legitimate point not involving single incidents, or you're simply being intellectually dishonest.

[exotix]

And? OJ Simpson was actually giving autographs to the police escorts that arrived at his mansion to arrest him. Single anecdotes are meaningless; one can find one to support any position.

Make a legitimate point not involving single incidents, or you're simply being intellectually dishonest.Well normally Dylan Roof would have been massacred like a Sean Bell given your stupid cops aren't bias against blacks thread ... which I just pwn'd for you ...

[Subdermal]

Well normally Dylan Roof would have been massacred like a Sean Bell given your stupid cops aren't bias against blacks thread ... which I just pwn'd for you ...

:facepalm:

No houseplant, you didn't. Studies involve lots of cases, so individual outliers can be considered rules or exceptions.

Be smart or be leftist. Your choice.

[Cigar]

:facepalm:

How does this study alter your belief on this matter, @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)?


I've never had these altercations with Cops, but I've also never been to the Moon.

[Subdermal]

I've never had these altercations with Cops, but I've also never been to the Moon.

...and that's how this study has altered your beliefs?

[The Xl]

I don't know if their is racial bias or not, I think their is to a small degree. I do know their is socioeconomic bias for sure, and that rouge cops frequently get away with their crimes.

[Mister D]

This needs its own thread.

There is a dangerous distortion taking place at the hands of the leftist media and race hustlers - but I repeat myself.

They are promulgating the narrative that there is some sort of injustice taking place against blacks at the hands of white cops. The problem is that it this claim is totally fabricated, and that means that there is a motivation for it.

Why would those who claim that they are 'uniters' actively portraying something which is a lie, and is absolutely fracturing our society as a consequence?

Because they do not want unity. They want to defeat their political adversaries, and those adversaries are white and on the right.

Harvard Economist Finds NO POLICE BIAS In Shooting Incidents Involving Blacks (http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28107/)

So. If there is no bias, then why the FOCK are leftists in a tizzy? Are you easily led? Lemmings? Evil?

It's a little disturbing, TBH. I've been well exposed to progressive lunacy but I honestly didn't realize the depth of their emotional investment in this narrative. I'm not talking about morons like Cigar either. Dr. Who, for example, is heavily invested. It's...disturbing.

[Oboe]

The pointless hate filled liberals trash another topic.

[Bo-4]

Here's racisss mass-murderer Dylan Roof arrested with Kid Gloves ...

Yep .. Dylan vs Eric

http://67.media.tumblr.com/14ac4f1bb428f9006e1fd1217ee542bf/tumblr_inline_nqcq7izwtk1r8msq4_500.jpg

[Common]

This needs its own thread.

There is a dangerous distortion taking place at the hands of the leftist media and race hustlers - but I repeat myself.

They are promulgating the narrative that there is some sort of injustice taking place against blacks at the hands of white cops. The problem is that it this claim is totally fabricated, and that means that there is a motivation for it.

Why would those who claim that they are 'uniters' actively portraying something which is a lie, and is absolutely fracturing our society as a consequence?

Because they do not want unity. They want to defeat their political adversaries, and those adversaries are white and on the right.

Harvard Economist Finds NO POLICE BIAS In Shooting Incidents Involving Blacks (http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28107/)

So. If there is no bias, then why the FOCK are leftists in a tizzy? Are you easily led? Lemmings? Evil?

Its always been a lie, but its promoted by the democrat party via the left wing media because they need black votes. Soon they wont need black votes, they will have the Spanish vote that will exceed the black vote.

[Cigar]

Some people just Hate Mirrors and what it reflects ...

http://www.planet-tango.com/Valorie/csn%20Black+Ornate+Traditional+Wall+Mirror.jpg (http://visualvamp.blogspot.com/2011_02_01_archive.html)

[Common]

It's a little disturbing, TBH. I've been well exposed to progressive lunacy but I honestly didn't realize the depth of their emotional investment in this narrative. I'm not talking about morons like Cigar either. Dr. Who, for example, is heavily invested. It's...disturbing.

Being intelligent or sincere doesnt mean you know the subject matter. Many believe this to be true because they believe the media who has it in their face 24/7

Theres a big price to pay in human blood for this

[Bo-4]

Did you read the actual study? Oops

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A new study (http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399) confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html

[Cigar]

Did you read the actual study? Oops

~~~

A new study (http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399) confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html


As usual, only what they want to see ...

[Mister D]

Did you read the actual study? Oops

~~~

A new study (http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399) confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html

The study found no bias with regard to shootings. Oops.

[Bo-4]

The study found no bias with regard to shootings. Oops.

Ya, but the link he provide conveniently brushed aside the rest. ;-)

[Mister D]

Ya, but the link he provide conveniently brushed aside the rest. ;-)

So you agree the study found no bias with regard to shootings?

[texan]

This needs its own thread.

There is a dangerous distortion taking place at the hands of the leftist media and race hustlers - but I repeat myself.

They are promulgating the narrative that there is some sort of injustice taking place against blacks at the hands of white cops. The problem is that it this claim is totally fabricated, and that means that there is a motivation for it.

Why would those who claim that they are 'uniters' actively portraying something which is a lie, and is absolutely fracturing our society as a consequence?

Because they do not want unity. They want to defeat their political adversaries, and those adversaries are white and on the right.

Harvard Economist Finds NO POLICE BIAS In Shooting Incidents Involving Blacks (http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28107/)

So. If there is no bias, then why the FOCK are leftists in a tizzy? Are you easily led? Lemmings? Evil?


I am glad this was posted. This entire thing we are dealing with is based on upbringings from 1950........It isn't 1950 anymore. I gotta tell you people that do not fight with the police (whether you feel they are right or wrong) will keep you safe and alive. I don't understand why people cannot figure this out. Oh well some people are just not very smart!

I saw the dumbest BLM's person on the Kelly File in a group discussion say the police need to be disarmed and law enforcement turned over communities... Yes you heard that right this is what we are dealing with, that is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard! BTW it was followed by the police forces were originally formed to run down slaves......What a fing idiot!

This is about power and money. They turn people into pawns with emotion. Not saying there are not bad shootings, just saying they are not out of line statistically....The stats never supported what was being said.

[Bo-4]

So you agree the study found no bias with regard to shootings?

Of course, but that doesn't mean that i agree with the findings.

They themselves admitted that some of their research may be flawed.

Did you get your run in yet today? - today is beat myself up with weights day. ;-)

[Bo-4]

I am glad this was posted. This entire thing we are dealing with is based on upbringings from 1950........It isn't 1950 anymore. I gotta tell you people that do not fight with the police (whether you feel they are right or wrong) will keep you safe and alive. I don't understand why people cannot figure this out. Oh well some people are just not very smart!

I saw the dumbest BLM's person on the Kelly File in a group discussion say the police need to be disarmed and law enforcement turned over communities... Yes you heard that right this is what we are dealing with, that is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard! BTW it was followed by the police forces were originally formed to run down slaves......What a fing idiot!

This is about power and money. They turn people into pawns with emotion. Not saying there are not bad shootings, just saying they are not out of line statistically....The stats never supported what was being said.

Fox makes it a habit to invite in only the most loud, angry, outrageous and radical of the BLM-ers.

Just a heads-up ;-)

[Safety]

Did you read the actual study? Oops

~~~

A new study (http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399) confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html

It's like I said in the other thread about the same subject, if black people are more likely to be touched, pepper sprayed, handcuffed, then there is reason to believe that the physical interaction from the police is more likely to result in more physical reaction from the suspect, which in that case usually ends up with lethal force being used. Yet in this study, there was no mention of "unarmed" suspects and lethal force being used...I wonder if that is on purpose...

[MisterVeritis]

It's like I said in the other thread about the same subject, if black people are more likely to be touched, pepper sprayed, handcuffed, then there is reason to believe that the physical interaction from the police is more likely to result in more physical reaction from the suspect, which in that case usually ends up with lethal force being used. Yet in this study, there was no mention of "unarmed" suspects and lethal force being used...I wonder if that is on purpose...
Hmmm:

Fifteen years of shootings (2000-2015) revealed these results:

In officer-involved shootings in these cities, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both of these results undercut the idea that the police wield lethal force with racial bias.

[Safety]

Hmmm:

Fifteen years of shootings (2000-2015) revealed these results:

In officer-involved shootings in these cities, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both of these results undercut the idea that the police wield lethal force with racial bias.



Thanks for supporting my point. The "uproar" is over unarmed blacks being shot/killed by police, or an escalation of force where it wasn't warranted.

[Mister D]

That's probably because, as Dr. Who demonstrated, "unarmed victims of police violence" is a highly misleading category.

[Mister D]

Of course, but that doesn't mean that i agree with the findings.

They themselves admitted that some of their research may be flawed.

Did you get your run in yet today? - today is beat myself up with weights day. ;-)

Sure. It's not gospel but it stands for now.

Nah I'm a PM runner. I try and go around noon on weekends and days off but no way am I getign up at 6AM to jog. What am I Rocky Balboa? lol

[MisterVeritis]

Thanks for supporting my point. The "uproar" is over unarmed blacks being shot/killed by police, or an escalation of force where it wasn't warranted.
I disproved your point. I suppose there is some truth to the saying that there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon.

[Common]

As usual, only what they want to see ...

Horse shit I read it and I agreed with it, but theres a distinct reason for that and you wouild have to be a cop to understand it.

Like it or not cigar blacks make most of their own problems because they are dumbass's
90% of all physical incidents are brought on by NON COMPLIANCE, now pay attention NON COMPLIANCE IS NOT AN OPTION. If it were an option No one would listen to the police. Its the same as if the irs didnt cut everyones nuts off that didnt pay taxs no one would pay.

If people dont like that then they have to get the law changed until then police and the IRS are going to keep on keeping on.

[Mister D]

I disproved your point. I suppose there is some truth to the saying that there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon.

Dr. Who cited a list of "unarmed" black victims of police violence that included people who were killed by accident (collisions etc.), people threatening the police with toy guns and people who tried to take the cop's weapon. How gullible do you have to be?

[texan]

Of course, but that doesn't mean that i agree with the findings.

They themselves admitted that some of their research may be flawed.

Did you get your run in yet today? - today is beat myself up with weights day. ;-)

Bo, the stats are the stats. The only thing out of line is minorities may get hassled a little more. If that is the problem that isn't some great societal concern that can be fixed without shooting cops. Don't fing fight with law enforcement how hard is that to understand?

I am not a fan of the attitudes of many police departments, but don't fight with them. This is nothing more than a wedge generated issue to raise money on and it works.

[Truth Detector]

This needs its own thread.

There is a dangerous distortion taking place at the hands of the leftist media and race hustlers - but I repeat myself.

They are promulgating the narrative that there is some sort of injustice taking place against blacks at the hands of white cops. The problem is that it this claim is totally fabricated, and that means that there is a motivation for it.

Why would those who claim that they are 'uniters' actively portraying something which is a lie, and is absolutely fracturing our society as a consequence?

Because they do not want unity. They want to defeat their political adversaries, and those adversaries are white and on the right.

Harvard Economist Finds NO POLICE BIAS In Shooting Incidents Involving Blacks (http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28107/)

So. If there is no bias, then why the FOCK are leftists in a tizzy? Are you easily led? Lemmings? Evil?

Silly Subdermal; you still think loony liberuls give a schit about facts or the truth. ;)

[Peter1469]

Harvard Study on Police Shootings and Race Offers Shocking Conclusion (http://tribunist.com/news/harvard-study-on-police-shootings-and-race-offers-shocking-conclusion/)

No racial bias. More minority cops pull the trigger. Likely because the whites are holding back so they aren't call racists.


f you ever need an argument settled, once and for all, just ask a Harvard professor to conduct a study. They do it right. And, to their credit, they report on the results–even when those results don’t support their own agendas. Check out the bomb they’ve just dropped on Black Lives Matter and all of the armchair pundits.

Read more at the link.

[Tahuyaman]

Shhhh........ The truth is not received well here by some.

[Mister D]

Peter, this is dupe thread and the progressive kooks shit themselves all day. We don't need a repeat.

[Peter1469]

Provide a link to the other thread so they can be merged.

I saw a whole lot of nonsense earlier with 4 pages of unread threads and hit mark all read.

[Mister D]

Provide a link to the other thread so they can be merged.

I saw a whole lot of nonsense earlier with 4 pages of unread threads and hit mark all read.

I can't find it. Forgot who did it. Maybe it was just a citation of the study in the middle of a thread. Never mind.

[Peter1469]

No problem. I skip a lot of the fagotry.

[Mister D]

No problem. I skip a lot of the $#@!otry.

Yeah, same here. I was logged in more often over the last two afternoons because I had to school a of couple people (the truth matters to me) but much of the commentary is garbage. Reminded me of why I have been logging in less frequently.

[Peter1469]

Notice: Duplicate threads merged

[Mister D]

Now it's a study. It's not gospel. OK I will admit that straightaway but what if their findings are close to the reality of police violence? Over the last few days I have encountered a rather disturbing inability on the part of our progressives to assimilate unwelcome facts. Here we saw them insist on the reality of harassment and other kinds of bias but that's not the topic. The topic is the lethal use of force. That's also the founding concern of BLM...

[Mister D]

Oh wow...he found whites are actually more likely to get shot. Well that upsets the apple cart...

[Subdermal]

Yep .. Dylan vs Eric

http://67.media.tumblr.com/14ac4f1bb428f9006e1fd1217ee542bf/tumblr_inline_nqcq7izwtk1r8msq4_500.jpg

So tell us.

Did Dylan resist?

[Subdermal]

Did you read the actual study? Oops

~~~

A new study (http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399) confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html

Are they more likely to resist? My comments were relegated to shootings, in which there is an opposite indication.

So. Do you want to accept one part of the study, and reject the other? Is that it?

[Subdermal]

Ya, but the link he provide conveniently brushed aside the rest. ;-)

How did it brush aside something that it directly discusses in the link?

:loco:

[Subdermal]

I can't find it. Forgot who did it. Maybe it was just a citation of the study in the middle of a thread. Never mind.

I did. I thought it merited its own thread.

[Mister D]

I did. I thought it merited its own thread.

It does but the crickets are annoying.

[texan]

Fox makes it a habit to invite in only the most loud, angry, outrageous and radical of the BLM-ers.

Just a heads-up ;-)

You are watching FOX now? I think not and your comment while perfectly on cue is incorrect. Almost every democrat supports these idiots on FOX. But the group itself seems to be made up by militants from the NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY. These are bad hateful people. BLM can't even tell you what they want, I live in Dallas and our Chief is great. Brown asked them what it is they wanted and noted not one has ever contacted them to meet.

This is nothing more than a wedge issue fundraising get the voters out stunt. In 08 it was the anti war groups stirred up and funded by dems, now it is BLMs turn.

[Professor Peabody]

Yep .. Dylan vs Eric

http://67.media.tumblr.com/14ac4f1bb428f9006e1fd1217ee542bf/tumblr_inline_nqcq7izwtk1r8msq4_500.jpg

Amazing how things go differently when you don't resist arrest.

[Common]

Amazing how things go differently when you don't resist arrest.

There it is BINGO, blacks have got to run their mouth and think that they are allowed to commit any crime they want and if the police dare to interfere its because theyre black.

That is the problem black not complying. They create their own problems most of the time.