Hillary to announce VP Pick

[exotix]

*Breaking*

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[Oboe]

15277

[Common]

Exotix you did all this to yourself. I guess you thought you would troll everyones thread and derail them forever without consequences. You deserve it

[Bo-4]

Please God not Kaine or Vilsack. *snore*

If it ain't Booker, Warren or Castro she'll have zero chance at my vote.

[Captain Obvious]

Wont be a white male, gauran-fucking'tee

[Oboe]

Prolly not. I think OJ would be good though. If someone pisses her of, he could pay them a visit in the night.

[Bo-4]

Wont be a white male, gauran-fucking'tee

Bet? Vilsack and Kaine are the apparent frontrunners.

What a snoozer of a ticket either would make.

[Oboe]

Bet? Vilsack and Kaine are the apparent frontrunners.

What a snoozer of a ticket either would make.


Either way, whoever she picks, it will not help her. More and more of her incompetence and general overall BS perpetrated by the DEMS, is going to end her for good.

[Peter1469]

Kaine took a lot more gifts as governor than McDonnell did.

[exotix]

Exotix you did all this to yourself. I guess you thought you would troll everyones thread and derail them forever without consequences. You deserve it
What can I say ... Hillarys' gonna schlong Trump so badly y'all are gonna be gay come November ... http://i66.tinypic.com/15qqn1c.jpg

[exotix]

Happening Now

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[Oboe]

So long as it's Trump who schlongs us it's all good then.

[Oboe]

Happening Now

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Looks like from that image she could be singing Jail House Rock!

[exotix]

*Breaking*

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[exotix]

Where ma damn bumper sticker ?

[Peter1469]

Kaine is seen as a moderate but his voting record is hard left.

[exotix]

Kaine is seen as a moderate but his voting record is hard left.You must've missed his stance on TPP ...

[Peter1469]

Liberty score

(https://www.conservativereview.com/members/tim-kaine/liberty-card/) Votes On The Issues


Issue
Conservative
Liberal
% Conservative Votes




Budget, Spending, & Dept
1
53
2%




Civil Liberties
1
11
8%




Education
1
11
8%




Energy & Environment
0
10
0%




Foreign Policy & Defense
1
12
8%




Free Market
2
25
7%




Health Care & Entitlements
0
17
0%




Immigration
0
9
0%




Moral Issues
0
10
0%




Second Amendment
0
4
0%




Taxes, Economy, & Trade
2
14
13%



Total
8
176
4%

[zelmo1234]

Well that is an Interesting pick. I am guessing that they feel that they did not need a minority and needed VA.

Certainly not going to help with the Bernie Voters

[exotix]

Usual Trump Hate, Death & Destruction hysterics


‘Corrupt Kaine’

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-kaine-donald-trump-226053

Trump campaign hits ‘Corrupt Kaine’ right out of the gate




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[MisterVeritis]

Usual Trump Hate, Death & Destruction hysterics

‘Corrupt Kaine’

I like it. Crooked Hillary and Corrupt Kaine.

Corrupt and cowardly Comey.

[Green Arrow]

*Breaking*

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IMPress Polly

And you doubted me ;)

[Oboe]

I wonder if Kaine is able?

[donttread]

i wonder if kaine is able?

lol

[donttread]

Kaine is seen as a moderate but his voting record is hard left.

That brings a question to mind. Are there any real moderates anymore ?

[MisterVeritis]

That brings a question to mind. Are there any real moderates anymore ?
I doubt there ever were. There will always be milquetoasts.

[Peter1469]

That brings a question to mind. Are there any real moderates anymore ?
Webb

[IMPress Polly]

Green Arrow wrote:
@IMPress Polly (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=399)

And you doubted me ;)

lol, yeah sorry about that! Hell, I didn't even get Trump's pick right! Jesus Christ, this is one unpredictable year!

You could see my reasoning before though, right? And on top of that, my opinion was reinforced when Clinton announced that she and Sanders had negotiated a compromise position on higher education abolishing tuition at public colleges and universities for all students making less than $125,000 a year (83% of the population) and then announced a similar compromise position worked out with Sanders on health care where she would advocate for the public option anew and for lowering the age at which people can access Medicare to 55. These late changes in the Clinton program seemed to suggest that she was aiming to run a more left wing campaign going forward to me. Then Sanders endorsed her. The instant that happened, everything changed! Immediately a campaign event with an anti-abortion, pro-TPP advocate of further financial deregulation in Tim Kaine was scheduled and then a week after that she announced him as her running mate, thus instantly quashing my whole theory of this year! I feel conned. Again. Conned because this constitutes absolute proof that Clinton values her Wall Street campaign donations more than she cares about the needs of poor and working class people. The instant she thought my vote was secure, she turned on me. And that settles the matter: I'm not buying what she's selling anymore.

Oh yes, I know: "But VPs don't do anything." Right. And Joe Biden isn't the architect of our current policy anymore than Dick Cheney wasn't the architect of our last president's. Modern VPs are influential! And Clinton even says that she picked him specifically as a de facto high-level advisor. Think about the implications of that for a second.

I've been protesting outside the conventions these last couple weeks (which has big reason for my absence lately), but I have had the opportunity to record and watch the speeches themselves at both that have happened so far. My opinion of the Trump coronation was that the whole process was even scarier than I thought it might be, with the delegates, speakers, and Senators openly calling for the jailing and even assassination of political opponents. Worse still, it looks like the public responded in a terrifying amount of approval!

Then we fast-forward to the Democratic National Convention and what do we get in response to this clear and imminent threat? Mostly a bunch of generic political speeches that really fail to take the stakes as seriously as they present themselves, though a few of them (Michelle Obama's and Cory Booker's come to mind) have struck me as more heartfelt than not. (Indeed Michelle Obama's speech was convincing enough that we might hear it again at the next Republican National Convention.) Nevertheless, the overall case being made is weak. The general formula works thus: first there is a listing of Trump's various irritating rudenesses and, more importantly, from time to time his actual policy ideas (which are much worse and should be focused upon far more often). Then we are presented with the answer: Clinton-Kaine. Why them? Because Clinton is qualified for the job, is a grandmother now, created S-CHIP, and is has thus "fought for us her whole life". It's not convincing. Not when your husband signed NAFTA and the infamous 1994 crime bill into law, repealed Glass-Steagall, you voted to invade Iraq on zero evidence, you were the principal architect of the Libya War, and you just proved your commitment NOT to run a people's campaign.

Clearly the Clinton campaign needs a threat from the left in order to move to the left. This is why I've decided that I'm with another her. (I refer to Jill Stein of the Green Party.) The above kind of answer to an alarmingly demagogic campaign is no answer at all! Bernie can tell me about Hillary's merits and concessions all he wants, but it's not convincing when you've now got pretty significant evidence she wasn't serious about any of that! The result is that this could well prove to be something of a breakout year for Jill Stein and the Green Party, I predict, and that's something I'm interested in getting on board with.

It's not that everything Hillary Clinton has done has been bad or anything. I'm a strong supporter of the Violence Against Women Act and the assault weapons ban that Bill Clinton signed and Hillary Clinton supported back in the '90s for example! But the thing is that these agreeable things are the exception, not the rule, when it comes to the Clinton record to date. I could, after all, say the same thing about Ronald Reagan: I believe it was Reagan who signed the Americans With Disabilities Act, for example, if memory serves. Such occasional charitable acts, however, do not make up for the overall picture where you bankrupted the Soviet Union (in my view that was crime anyway), sold arms to the Contras illegally, set the precedent of actively stopping strikes yourself, created more poverty through budgetary austerity, and achieved "prosperity" for middle class people only through a financial deregulation that rendered the accumulation of debt easier. You don't get away with all that because you signed the Americans With Disabilities Act, sorry!

To those who may say that supporting a third-party candidate amounts to signing over the White House, if not the whole of Washington DC, to Trump and his goon squad, let me just say that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party don't need my help to lose this election. They can do that all by themselves! And you can't say that I didn't give Mrs. Clinton her fair chance to persuade me.