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Cigar
07-25-2016, 08:26 AM
How many of you are or have ever been actually a Bernie Sanders Supporters?
I am a Bernie Sanders Supporter ... but he didn't win the Democratic Primary. Therefore, my support will go to the only individual who remains a Democratic Presidential Candidate ... Hillary Clinton.
So ... who are our Bernie Sanders Supporters? :grin:
My oldest son supported him. I tried to explain to him why I thought Sanders would not be good, but with the about face of Sanders, he is now leaning toward Trump, as are his Sanders loving buddies. Some, not all. I'm sure this kind of thing is happening all over.
Cigar
07-25-2016, 08:40 AM
My oldest son supported him. I tried to explain to him why I thought Sanders would not be good, but with the about face of Sanders, he is now leaning toward Trump, as are his Sanders loving buddies. Some, not all. I'm sure this kind of thing is happening all over.
Just the opposite from all the Sanders Supporters I know ... but then I can clearly see why they won't support Trump; they're actually Hispanic and Black. They don't like the rhetoric towards their demographics.
Well, I think that's misleading. All Trump said in regards to Hispanics was that he wanted the Illegal ones gone, not the American Hispanics. My wife is Hispanic and her whole family is for Trump, and so are the few others that I know locally.
So want has Trump said against blacks that I may have missed?
hanger4
07-25-2016, 08:45 AM
How many of you are or have ever been actually a Bernie Sanders Supporters?
I am a Bernie Sanders Supporter ... but he didn't win the Democratic Primary. Therefore, my support will go to the only individual who remains a Democratic Presidential Candidate ... Hillary Clinton.
So ... who are our Bernie Sanders Supporters? :grin:
So it's OK with you that the DNC was actively attempting to sabotage the Sanders campaign in support of Hillary ??
You should be outraged Cigar, not to mention the waste of taxpayer moneys on sabotaged primary
Chris
07-25-2016, 08:47 AM
Clinton is a Democrat? Coulda fooled me. Lying, warmongering, 0.1%er bought and paid for by corporate America. Sanders was against all that.
Cigar
07-25-2016, 08:50 AM
So it's OK with you that the DNC was actively attempting to sabotage the Sanders campaign in support of Hillary ??
You should be outraged Cigar, not to mention the waste of taxpayer moneys on sabotaged primary
No it's not Ok and no I'm not outraged ... why do you care?
Debby is out ... what else do you, who is neither a Democrat nor a Sanders supporter, want or care about?
The entire Republican Party has been trying to sabotaged the primary of Donald Trump for months ... are you outraged?
Cigar
07-25-2016, 08:53 AM
Clinton is a Democrat? Coulda fooled me. Lying, warmongering, 0.1%er bought and paid for by corporate America. Sanders was against all that.
:huh: Are you also surprised that she is married to a Democratic Governor and President?
Are you also surprised that she was a Democratic Senator and worked for a Democratic President?
i supported bernie
the only person for whom i am less likely to vote than hillary is trump.
i'll vote johnson
Cigar
07-25-2016, 08:58 AM
i supported bernie
the only person for whom i am less likely to vote than hillary is trump.
i'll vote johnson
Good, but at least you're Voting and not just B!tching
Good, but at least you're Voting and not just B!tching
i'd like to see johnson get to 15%
i think both major party candidates will be disastrous for most americans
Chris
07-25-2016, 09:04 AM
:huh: Are you also surprised that she is married to a Democratic Governor and President?
Are you also surprised that she was a Democratic Senator and worked for a Democratic President?
Bill wasn't all that Democratic either. Perhaps I should use the word progressive.
Sanders is a democratic socialist but runs as a Democrat.
Trump is probably to the left of Clinton yet he runs as a Republican.
Party and principle, two different things.
Cigar
07-25-2016, 09:06 AM
i'd like to see johnson get to 15%
i think both major party candidates will be disastrous for most americans
I've never believed in Gloom-n-Doom Predictions ... everyone always predicts The End of The World if their Candidate doesn't Win
Chris
07-25-2016, 09:06 AM
i'd like to see johnson get to 15%
i think both major party candidates will be disastrous for most americans
He's polled as high as 13% recently. Getting him in national debates would make them worth watching.
Cigar
07-25-2016, 09:06 AM
Bill wasn't all that Democratic either. Perhaps I should use the word progressive.
Sanders is a democratic socialist but runs as a Democrat.
Trump is probably to the left of Clinton yet he runs as a Republican.
Party and principle, two different things.
Ok so these are your opinions
Cigar
07-25-2016, 09:07 AM
He's polled as high as 13% recently. Getting him in national debates would make them worth watching.
That's true
Truth Detector
07-25-2016, 09:07 AM
I've never believed in Gloom-n-Doom Predictions ... everyone always predicts The End of The World if their Candidate doesn't Win
So Hillary is lying again when she portrays a Trump Presidency as the end of civilization as we know it?? :biglaugh:
Cigar
07-25-2016, 09:08 AM
So Hillary is lying again when she portrays a Trump Presidency as the end of civilization as we know it?? :biglaugh:
It's her opinion ... or is she not allowed to have one.
Truth Detector
07-25-2016, 09:08 AM
i'd like to see johnson get to 15%
i think both major party candidates will be disastrous for most americans
He's polled as high as 13% recently. Getting him in national debates would make them worth watching.
That's true
:rofl: @ Johnson.
Here; let me predict the percentage of real votes he will get: 1%
Truth Detector
07-25-2016, 09:09 AM
It's her opinion ... or is she not allowed to have one.
So her opinion that Trump would be a disaster for this nation isn't based on a lie? I am amused by leftist hypocrites who whine and carp about Trump's opinions declaring them lies but when Hillary does it, it is mere opinion.
:rofl:
nic34
07-25-2016, 09:17 AM
No, Bernie Sanders supporters won't flock to Donald Trump
ludicrous from the get-go to think Sanders' followers — pro-gay rights, pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-environmentalist, pro-nationalized health care supporters, pro-Black Lives Matter — would rush to the candidate who has insulted women, minorities and the disabled, wants to build a wall and deport millions (while keeping all Muslims out) and has suggested women should be punished for abortions. Indeed, as The Washington Post's Greg Sargent details, the pro-Clinton super PAC has a series of ads highlighting many of those stark differences (e.g., on minimum wage, education, immigration).
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-supporters-20160713-story.html
Cigar
07-25-2016, 09:19 AM
So her opinion that Trump would be a disaster for this nation isn't based on a lie? I am amused by leftist hypocrites who whine and carp about Trump's opinions declaring them lies but when Hillary does it, it is mere opinion.
:rofl:
Actually it's based on the actual words that come out of Trump's own mouth every day.
Sorry ...
Truth Detector
07-25-2016, 09:19 AM
No, Bernie Sanders supporters won't flock to Donald Trump
ludicrous from the get-go to think Sanders' followers — pro-gay rights, pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-environmentalist, pro-nationalized health care supporters, pro-Black Lives Matter — would rush to the candidate who has insulted women, minorities and the disabled, wants to build a wall and deport millions (while keeping all Muslims out) and has suggested women should be punished for abortions. Indeed, as The Washington Post's Greg Sargent details, the pro-Clinton super PAC has a series of ads highlighting many of those stark differences (e.g., on minimum wage, education, immigration).
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-supporters-20160713-story.html
....and they wont flock to Hillary. ;)
Truth Detector
07-25-2016, 09:20 AM
Actually it's based on the actual words that come out of Trump's own mouth every day.
Sorry ...
Actually it isn't; but keep pretending that you have even the slightest clue of the lies you defend. :rofl:
Chris
07-25-2016, 09:20 AM
Ok so these are your opinions
Most were facts.
Chris
07-25-2016, 09:21 AM
:rofl: @ Johnson.
Here; let me predict the percentage of real votes he will get: 1%
Too bad you don't grasp the importance of getting non-statist ideas out there.
Subdermal
07-25-2016, 09:27 AM
No, Bernie Sanders supporters won't flock to Donald Trump
ludicrous from the get-go to think Sanders' followers — pro-gay rights, pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-environmentalist, pro-nationalized health care supporters, pro-Black Lives Matter — would rush to the candidate who has insulted women, minorities and the disabled, wants to build a wall and deport millions (while keeping all Muslims out) and has suggested women should be punished for abortions. Indeed, as The Washington Post's Greg Sargent details, the pro-Clinton super PAC has a series of ads highlighting many of those stark differences (e.g., on minimum wage, education, immigration).
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-supporters-20160713-story.html
You guys have a serious problem. How many Dem voters are you going to lose?
It's ludicrous to listen to a Dem pundit. It's ludicrous to vote Dem in general.
And - apparently - these Bernie supporters are, likewise, ludicrous for thinking that they'll vote Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/13/bernie-sanders-supporters-consider-donald-trump-no-hillary-clinton).
Subdermal
07-25-2016, 09:29 AM
Too bad you don't grasp the importance of getting non-statist ideas out there.
I would love to see a Libertarian garner enough votes to change the electoral rules and require multi-party voting - but only if it results in a two tiered voting bracket.
What I do not want is three parties going head to head where two of similar ideologies knock each other out by splitting the majority opinion.
hanger4
07-25-2016, 09:33 AM
No it's not Ok and no I'm not outraged ... why do you care?
Debby is out ... what else do you, who is neither a Democrat nor a Sanders supporter, want or care about?
The entire Republican Party has been trying to sabotaged the primary of Donald Trump for months ... are you outraged?
So it's not ok yet you'll still tow the party line. The party that actively sabotaged you candidates chances at the nomination.
I don't understand ??
Chris
07-25-2016, 09:35 AM
I would love to see a Libertarian garner enough votes to change the electoral rules and require multi-party voting - but only if it results in a two tiered voting bracket.
What I do not want is three parties going head to head where two of similar ideologies knock each other out by splitting the majority opinion.
I believe Johnson and Stein are already on all state ballots, or close.
What's at stake with the 15% is getting on stage in national debates.
I don't think Johnson and the Libertarian Party are all that similar to Trump and the Republicans, or Clinton and the Democrats.
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