I have come to believe that it is too late!

[zelmo1234]

When I am looking at what is really happening in the USA, and what the MSM is trying to tell us is happening?

I think we have gone beyond the point of no Return. Lies are accepted for Truth, and the rule of law is no longer the founding ideology of the country.

We don't like to talk about this but half the people do not participate in the politics and policies of the country. And Facts are ignored if they don't agree with the Agenda of the specific party.

We actually oppose people based on our belief, even when the facts show that our believe is not true.

We now have groups claiming that they are the victims of oppression, and they only way to fix it in their minds is to oppress other Groups

We don't what to talk about the removal of God from out public discussions and public arena, but it certainly has contributed to the moral decline.

I can't think of an event, other than World War that would turn the USA away form the path of Revolution. I just think we are too far gone.

[del]

keep thinking

[Common Sense]

I think that's an hysterical assessment in that it's based on hysteria, not that I found it funny.

I think there is far too much of this hyperbole and that has led to the popularity of Trump.

If people really want to start a revolution because gays can marry, or that transexuals want to use the bathroom, or that people don't want to judge an entire religion based on the actions of a few, or an irrational fear of immigrants...then go for it. You wont have popular support and you wont win.


Edit: It's also a good idea to spell check a rant. Errors make it less convincing.

[Peter1469]

Notice: del, thread banned by zelmo1234. Do not respond to the thread banned member in this thread. If you have questions contact the OP of this tPF thread.

[Private Pickle]

keep thinking

Never start.

[Oboe]

When I am looking at what is really happening in the USA, and what the MSM is trying to tell us is happening?

I think we have gone beyond the point of no Return. Lies are accepted for Truth, and the rule of law is no longer the founding ideology of the country.

We don't like to talk about this but half the people do not participate in the politics and policies of the country. And Facts are ignored if they don't agree with the Agenda of the specific party.

We actually oppose people based on our belief, even when the facts show that our believe is not true.

We now have groups claiming that they are the victims of oppression, and they only way to fix it in their minds is to oppress other Groups

We don't what to talk about the removal of God from out public discussions and public arena, but it certainly has contributed to the moral decline.

I can't think of an event, other than World War that would turn the USA away form the path of Revolution. I just think we are too far gone.

I think you are correct. There are too many people who look at everything happening like it is a game that has to be won. The terrible fact is that the situation we are in is no game, it is serious and the whole thing is stacked against people who want the USA to be like the founders envisioned. We are far to gone and divided to pull back from this especially if Hilbama wins.

[zelmo1234]

I think that's an hysterical assessment in that it's based on hysteria, not that I found it funny.

I think there is far too much of this hyperbole and that has led to the popularity of Trump.

If people really want to start a revolution because gays can marry, or that transexuals want to use the bathroom, or that people don't want to judge an entire religion based on the actions of a few, or an irrational fear of immigrants...then go for it. You wont have popular support and you wont win.


Edit: It's also a good idea to spell check a rant. Errors make it less convincing.

WE have been over my spelling Several times, I am sorry that it make it hard for you.

As for you post, What I am talking about has nothing to do with what you posted.

Here is What could very well happen in the USA

#1 A Supreme Court stacked with activist judges, right or left is going to subvert the Constitutional process of making and enforcing laws. The rule of law no longer stands in the Courts system.

#2 The Education system in this country is designed to separate the Social and Ethnic Classes. It is designed to divide the country and produce indoctrinated not educated people It is working. We are a very divided nation on the very knifes edge of massive violence.

#3 We are making policies that not only make it harder for Citizens to earn a fair living and support their families, but actually making polices that reduce the income potential of the Poor and Middle class, while concentrating power in the Wealthy Class and even more than that in those that think they should be able to tell others how to live

#4 It is not really the Gay, or Abortion thing with Religion, but the idea that you can't practice your peaceful religion the way that you see fit because it offends me. That it the issue. This is a Tuff conversation to have with the left because they generally don't want to take about ideas but just want to call names.

#5 We have gotten to the point in our country where we are calling Evil Good, and Good Evil.

You may not see it but people have had enough. and are not going to put up with this tyranny that is coming from DC much longer. My biggest fear is a Gun Confiscation law coming from an Executive Order or Supreme Court Rewriting of the Constitution.

[AZ Jim]

Need a hankie?

[Oboe]

Thanks for trolling yet another good topic.

[Chris]

AZ Jim has been banned at the request of the OP, zelmo1234. Please do not respond to AZ Jim any further in this thread. If you have questions contact the OP of this tPF thread.

[zelmo1234]

To my Friends on the Forum. I am sorry for having such a short fuse on this Thread.

To me this is very serious. We have people that no longer care about the well being of large groups of other people.

To me it is no joke. We are seeing for the first time in over 2 decades a marked increase in violence. And unless we are very careful it will get out of control

So if you can't address the issue in an adult manner, please don't post

[Oboe]

While I think Trump is far from perfect, he at least, so he says, he will work for America. Right now I think that is very important. When the whole world is against someone, you have to ask what their motive may be, and in this case, they know Trump will throw them under the bus, where they have been throwing us for decades.

[Chloe]

When I am looking at what is really happening in the USA, and what the MSM is trying to tell us is happening?

I think we have gone beyond the point of no Return. Lies are accepted for Truth, and the rule of law is no longer the founding ideology of the country.

We don't like to talk about this but half the people do not participate in the politics and policies of the country. And Facts are ignored if they don't agree with the Agenda of the specific party.

We actually oppose people based on our belief, even when the facts show that our believe is not true.

We now have groups claiming that they are the victims of oppression, and they only way to fix it in their minds is to oppress other Groups

We don't what to talk about the removal of God from out public discussions and public arena, but it certainly has contributed to the moral decline.

I can't think of an event, other than World War that would turn the USA away form the path of Revolution. I just think we are too far gone.

yet you truly believe that Donald J. Trump is the answer and doesn't do or stand for any of the things you are rallying against in this OP? I don't care about Hillary Clinton, she is absolutely no different, but Trump, whom you support, constantly espouses lies as truths, slaps the rule of law in the face, opposes people for their beliefs, and has no genuine belief in God which you want protected. Is electing him really going to bring us back from the brink that you think we are at?

[zelmo1234]

yet you truly believe that Donald J. Trump is the answer and doesn't do or stand for any of the things you are rallying against in this OP? I don't care about Hillary Clinton, she is absolutely no different, but Trump, whom you support, constantly espouses lies as truths, slaps the rule of law in the face, opposes people for their beliefs, and has no genuine belief in God which you want protected. Is electing him really going to bring us back from the brink that you think we are at?

You know me well enough to know that I am a constitutional Conservative. I really don't support Trump.

I just think he will be way better than Hillary. I could be persuaded to vote 3rd party if I really has someone that I could get behind. Johnson is not it. I don't think he would be good for the country., And Mrs. Stein while I am sure that she is a great person, is a disaster when it comes to policies.

So my so called support of Trump is based on 30 years of knowing exactly who Hillary Clinton is, and What she stands for. I oppose that, and therefore I must settle for Trump.

[Mac-7]

keep thinking

Del never adds any intelligent thought to any thread.

[Peter1469]

Comey tells Trey Gowdey that Hillary lied before Congress. He also schooled Comey on how to prove intent under the Espionage Act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dax7fzcx-Mo

[Mac-7]

yet you truly believe that Donald J. Trump is the answer and doesn't do or stand for any of the things you are rallying against in this OP? I don't care about Hillary Clinton, she is absolutely no different, but Trump, whom you support, constantly espouses lies as truths, slaps the rule of law in the face, opposes people for their beliefs, and has no genuine belief in God which you want protected. Is electing him really going to bring us back from the brink that you think we are at?

Dont you believe in tne democratic process?

16 other republicans ran agsinst trump and he beat them all.

[zelmo1234]

Comey tells Trey Gowdey that Hillary lied before Congress. He also schooled Comey on how to prove intent under the Espionage Act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dax7fzcx-Mo

This is what I am talking about. Our friends on the left will not admit is but any thinking person can see that Hillary Broke the law.

But she gets off because she is Hillary Clinton. The Folks are not going to take that much longer.

The Press is stoking this fire by reporting Opinion, instead of Fact.

[Mac-7]

You know me well enough to know that I am a constitutional Conservative. I really don't support Trump.

I just think he will be way better than Hillary. I could be persuaded to vote 3rd party if I really has someone that I could get behind. Johnson is not it. I don't think he would be good for the country., And Mrs. Stein while I am sure that she is a great person, is a disaster when it comes to policies.

So my so called support of Trump is based on 30 years of knowing exactly who Hillary Clinton is, and What she stands for. I oppose that, and therefore I must settle for Trump.

Forget gary johnson or jill stein.

they are fringe candidates.

Hillary will be the next president unless trump beats her.

[Chloe]

Dont you believe in tne democratic process?

16 other republicans ran agsinst trump and he beat them all.

and??? So, what, that means I must blindly support an idiot?

[Dr. Who]

You know me well enough to know that I am a constitutional Conservative. I really don't support Trump.

I just think he will be way better than Hillary. I could be persuaded to vote 3rd party if I really has someone that I could get behind. Johnson is not it. I don't think he would be good for the country., And Mrs. Stein while I am sure that she is a great person, is a disaster when it comes to policies.

So my so called support of Trump is based on 30 years of knowing exactly who Hillary Clinton is, and What she stands for. I oppose that, and therefore I must settle for Trump.
You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.

[Mac-7]

and??? So, what, that means I must blindly support an idiot?

Trump is not an idiot.

You should know this already and maybe you have just forgotten.

but in a civil society the eventual winner of every election is not everyones first choice.

I voted for cruz but he lost.

if he had won I would have expected trump voters to support cruz just as I am supporting trump now.

Thats how adults are supposed to act in a civil society.

[Chris]

You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.


Who, Hitlery?

[Chloe]

Trump is not an idiot.

You should know this already and maybe you have just forgotten.

but in a civil society the eventual winner of every election is not everyones first choice.

I voted for cruz but he lost.

if he had won I would have expected trump voters to support cruz just as I am supporting trump now.

Thats how adults are supposed to act in a civil society.

uh huh

Im not voting for him.

[Mac-7]

You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.

This race is beginning to remind of 1964.

according to democrats then barry goldwater was insane just like they are smearing trump in 2016.

hillary has done real harm to America and she is the true evil candidate in this election not trump

[Mac-7]

uh huh

Im not voting for him.

I never expected you to.

You are a 20-Something liberal female.

hillary is much more your style

but dont think for a minute rpthat entitles you to lecture other people abput who they should vote for.

[Dr. Who]

Who, Hitlery?
Both.

[Dr. Who]

This race is beginning to remind of 1964.

according to democrats then barry goldwater was insane just like they are smearing trump in 2016.

hillary has done real harm to America and she is the true evil candidate in this election not trump
Sorry, never was a Goldwater fan, but I was just a kid back then. I know what Hillary is and I don't like it. She is a major neocon and owned by big business. Trump is worse. He's a pathological narcissist. He not only doesn't color within the lines, he doesn't recognize the lines. He doesn't listen to anyone who doesn't tell him what he wants to hear. His business failures were due to his inability to follow good advice. He has no political background and believes his business background will do. It won't. Trump would take executive orders to a new level. He will see himself as the CEO of America and not be thwarted by Congress. Beware, because he is a predator. He keeps telling people who he is, and no one is listening.

[Chloe]

I never expected you to.

You are a 20-Something liberal female.

hillary is much more your style

but dont think for a minute rpthat entitles you to lecture other people abput who they should vote for.

you're such a goober

[Newpublius]

You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.

Don't worry its 'democratic fascism' when I put the word democratic in front of it, it makes it all alright!

[zelmo1234]

and??? So, what, that means I must blindly support an idiot?

No I think that you should support who you want to.

For example you have a lot of Environmental issues that are very, very important to you, so Jill most likely appeals to you

I don't have a lot of issues that I agree with Johnson on. And I believe that Hillary will used the Presidency to sell out the USA. That is my belief but in my opinion she is and has always been a Criminal. So I would vote for Trump to prevent Hillary from becoming President.

That being said I still think that she will be the next president I also thing that she will be impeached, and unlike her husband, I think that she will be removed from office.

[Cigar]

The Good news is, every time the Gloom & Doom predictors make their predictions ... they loose.

[zelmo1234]

You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.

NO, because I am an Honest person and I see NOTHING from Trump that resembles Hitler. I see someone that wants less governmental control. But what I see from the left, is very much like the beginning of the Nazi party in Germany

Look at what was going on in Germany in the period leading up to WWII the mid 1930's The Christians in this country are not be treated a lot better by the government than the Jews were in Germany. People that disagreed with the Nazi party were attacked and falsely accuse of all kinds of things, much like the tactic that the left is using in the USA today.

If I saw these same signs in Trump I would not support him. But when someone is touting the exact opposite policies of Socialism and Fascism, I am not worried at all.

You are being caught up in propaganda and not listening to what he is actually saying.

[zelmo1234]

The Good news is, every time the Gloom & Doom predictors make their predictions ... they loose.

I don't think that Trump winning stops this from happening? I don't think the media is pushing this and it does not matter which party is in control.

[MisterVeritis]

Comey tells Trey Gowdey that Hillary lied before Congress. He also schooled Comey on how to prove intent under the Espionage Act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dax7fzcx-Mo
Cowardly and corrupt Comey. I despise him.

[MisterVeritis]

The Good news is, every time the Gloom & Doom predictors make their predictions ... they loose.
Were we speaking of human-caused global warming?

[MisterVeritis]

and??? So, what, that means I must blindly support an idiot?
Do you value your liberty? Or do you prefer to live in a Marxist Utopia where you will be a slave to the state?

[MisterVeritis]

You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.
You are confused. You have accurately described Barack Hussein O. His handmaiden is Hillary Rotten Clinton, Crooked Hillary.

[Chloe]

Do you value your liberty? Or do you prefer to live in a Marxist Utopia where you will be a slave to the state?

Do you always live your life in such absurd absolutes?

[zelmo1234]

Do you always live your life in such absurd absolutes?

While he added a lot of Drama too it, I believe that Hillary will move to limit the rights of the citizens of the USA

[MisterVeritis]

Do you value your liberty? Or do you prefer to live in a Marxist Utopia where you will be a slave to the state?

Do you always live your life in such absurd absolutes?
Do you never pay attention to what is occurring all around you?

[Chloe]

Do you value your liberty? Or do you prefer to live in a Marxist Utopia where you will be a slave to the state?

Do you never pay attention to what is occurring all around you?

Well at the moment i'm learning all about how the moon is actually an alien base but i'll eventually look into all the crazy hyperbole that you find yourself fully invested in. Just give it some time.

[MisterVeritis]

Well at the moment i'm learning all about how the moon is actually an alien base but i'll eventually look into all the crazy hyperbole that you find yourself fully invested in. Just give it some time.
Assuming you survive long enough to gain wisdom you will find that your liberalism has caused your downfall. Of course, it will be too late for you and for the nation.

I believe ti will come to open warfare. Democrats will have to be defeated and destroyed on the battlefield.

[Chloe]

Assuming you survive long enough to gain wisdom you will find that your liberalism has caused your downfall. Of course, it will be too late for you and for the nation.

I believe ti will come to open warfare. Democrats will have to be defeated and destroyed on the battlefield.

Do you even hear yourself?

FYI im not a democrat

[Dr. Who]

NO, because I am an Honest person and I see NOTHING from Trump that resembles Hitler. I see someone that wants less governmental control. But what I see from the left, is very much like the beginning of the Nazi party in Germany

Look at what was going on in Germany in the period leading up to WWII the mid 1930's The Christians in this country are not be treated a lot better by the government than the Jews were in Germany. People that disagreed with the Nazi party were attacked and falsely accuse of all kinds of things, much like the tactic that the left is using in the USA today.

If I saw these same signs in Trump I would not support him. But when someone is touting the exact opposite policies of Socialism and Fascism, I am not worried at all.

You are being caught up in propaganda and not listening to what he is actually saying.
Zelmo, I have lived my life observing people and their psychology, and Trump is not a good person. He is a type that I have seen before, many times. He needs to be on top to feed his ego. I suspect that his father was distant and demanding, so Trump has spent his whole life trying to prove that he is better than everyone, especially his father. Not smarter in the conventional, learned sense, but craftier. He learned how to manipulate people and tell them what they want to hear. That is the Art of the Deal. It is the basis of all sales. Never give them the opportunity to say no. He has found what the people want to buy and is delivering it, at least until the ink is dry on the contract. This is not a man with a moral compass. He will step on whomever he has to, in order to get what he wants. Make no mistake, but don't be terribly surprised, if elected, his platform goes by the wayside. He is telegraphing who he is - try looking at him without the partisan filters. He stated it most recently when he said he could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “and shoot somebody” and still not lose voters. He effectively stated that he owns his fans - the brainwashing is complete. You no longer have a mind of your own.

[Chloe]

Zelmo, I have lived my life observing people and their psychology, and Trump is not a good person. He is a type that I have seen before, many times. He needs to be on top to feed his ego. I suspect that his father was distant and demanding, so Trump has spent his whole life trying to prove that he is better than everyone, especially his father. Not smarter in the conventional, learned sense, but craftier. He learned how to manipulate people and tell them what they want to hear. That is the Art of the Deal. It is the basis of all sales. Never give them the opportunity to say no. He has found what the people want to buy and is delivering it, at least until the ink is dry on the contract. This is not a man with a moral compass. He will step on whomever he has to, in order to get what he wants. Make no mistake, but don't be terribly surprised, if elected, his platform goes by the wayside. He is telegraphing who he is - try looking at him without the partisan filters. He stated it most recently when he said he could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “and shoot somebody” and still not lose voters. He effectively stated that he owns his fans - the brainwashing is complete. You no longer have a mind of your own.

nailed it

[MisterVeritis]

Assuming you survive long enough to gain wisdom you will find that your liberalism has caused your downfall. Of course, it will be too late for you and for the nation.

I believe it will come to open warfare. Democrats will have to be defeated and destroyed on the battlefield.

Do you even hear yourself?

FYI im not a democrat
I am self-aware. And you?

But you are a progressive, a liberal, a leftist, possibly a socialist. And who knows, you might even be an unaware Marxist. I was using Democrat as an inclusive term.

[Cthulhu]

Forget gary johnson or jill stein.

they are fringe candidates.

Hillary will be the next president unless trump beats her.
Binary thinking like that is what allows for bipartisan corruption.

Trump if elected isn't going to fix anything.

Ham Sandwich 2016



Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[Peter1469]

All successful politicians are narcissistic (http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/01/16/is-narcissism-an-essential-leadership-trait/64585.html). Likely applies to most if not all alpha males.

[MisterVeritis]

Binary thinking like that is what allows for bipartisan corruption.

Trump if elected isn't going to fix anything.

Ham Sandwich 2016

He will buy time to get an Article V Convention of States in place.

[Chloe]

Assuming you survive long enough to gain wisdom you will find that your liberalism has caused your downfall. Of course, it will be too late for you and for the nation.

I believe it will come to open warfare. Democrats will have to be defeated and destroyed on the battlefield.

I am self-aware. And you?

But you are a progressive, a liberal, a leftist, possibly a socialist. And who knows, you might even be an unaware Marxist. I was using Democrat as an inclusive term.

I believe i'm a pretty self aware person actually. I just think you are so caught up in hyperbole and the worst case scenario mindset that you have lost a good chunk of your sensibility.

[Mac-7]

Zelmo, I have lived my life observing people and their psychology, and Trump is not a good person. He is a type that I have seen before, many times. He needs to be on top to feed his ego. I suspect that his father was distant and demanding, so Trump has spent his whole life trying to prove that he is better than everyone, especially his father. Not smarter in the conventional, learned sense, but craftier. He learned how to manipulate people and tell them what they want to hear. That is the Art of the Deal. It is the basis of all sales. Never give them the opportunity to say no. He has found what the people want to buy and is delivering it, at least until the ink is dry on the contract. This is not a man with a moral compass. He will step on whomever he has to, in order to get what he wants. Make no mistake, but don't be terribly surprised, if elected, his platform goes by the wayside. He is telegraphing who he is - try looking at him without the partisan filters. He stated it most recently when he said he could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “and shoot somebody” and still not lose voters. He effectively stated that he owns his fans - the brainwashing is complete. You no longer have a mind of your own.

Trump does not have to be a nice person to be a good president.

in fact a tough minded man with good ideas from the private sector would be much better than a fool like Hillary who has made a mess of every public sector job she has ever had.

[Dr. Who]

You are confused. You have accurately described Barack Hussein O. His handmaiden is Hillary Rotten Clinton, Crooked Hillary.
No, I know them for what they are. I am more worried about Trump and who he is because he is unlike the politician. With a politician you have time, because politicians will move slowly. Trump will not move slowly to make his changes and those changes are unlikely to benefit you.

[Cthulhu]

and??? So, what, that means I must blindly support an idiot?
Never walk of the cliff.

I may disagree with you on many points, but you have a good heart.

Vote with your conscience. The devil take the rest.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[zelmo1234]

Zelmo, I have lived my life observing people and their psychology, and Trump is not a good person. He is a type that I have seen before, many times. He needs to be on top to feed his ego. I suspect that his father was distant and demanding, so Trump has spent his whole life trying to prove that he is better than everyone, especially his father. Not smarter in the conventional, learned sense, but craftier. He learned how to manipulate people and tell them what they want to hear. That is the Art of the Deal. It is the basis of all sales. Never give them the opportunity to say no. He has found what the people want to buy and is delivering it, at least until the ink is dry on the contract. This is not a man with a moral compass. He will step on whomever he has to, in order to get what he wants. Make no mistake, but don't be terribly surprised, if elected, his platform goes by the wayside. He is telegraphing who he is - try looking at him without the partisan filters. He stated it most recently when he said he could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “and shoot somebody” and still not lose voters. He effectively stated that he owns his fans - the brainwashing is complete. You no longer have a mind of your own.

Who, I can't talk with you about this anymore because you are not being Honest. Trump did make the comment, that he could shoot someone. it was in response to the press talking about the loyalty of his supports.

What you are trying to make out of it, is EXACTLY what the NAZI's did that you are so worried about.

Mr. Trump is a business man. Business is a blood sport. I understand that the left does not see it that way but it is.

And YES business people want to win 100% of the time. I know that I do.

But Mr. Trump is actually known for being a very generous and Charitable Man. He certainly does not need to be the President

Remember just 18 months ago the left loved Trump he was Great. but now he is evil! What happened.

[Cthulhu]

You may be voting for the next Hitler. Doesn't that scare you? Trump doesn't care about laws, except in how to circumvent them. He happily bought politicians in the past. He represents everything that is wrong with big money. Beware the Anti-Christ.
There are some who think it is Prince William.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[MisterVeritis]

I believe i'm a pretty self aware person actually. I just think you are so caught up in hyperbole and the worst case scenario mindset that you have lost a good chunk of your sensibility.
I suppose you will have to live a few more years before you will see the error of your ways. By then it will be too late for you to recover.

[Mac-7]

I believe i'm a pretty self aware person actually. I just think you are so caught up in hyperbole and the worst case scenario mindset that you have lost a good chunk of your sensibility.

But you are telling us its all over if trump gets elected.

so you are caught up in your own hyperbole too

[MisterVeritis]

No, I know them for what they are. I am more worried about Trump and who he is because he is unlike the politician. With a politician you have time, because politicians will move slowly. Trump will not move slowly to make his changes and those changes are unlikely to benefit you.
We will have to agree to disagree.

[Dr. Who]

Trump does not have to be a nice person to be a good president.

in fact a tough minded man with good ideas from the private sector would be much better than a fool like Hillary who has made a mess of every public sector job she has ever had.
It sounds like you would elect Satan if he had the platform that you wanted to hear. Don't you consider that he might be lying?

[Chloe]

I suppose you will have to live a few more years before you will see the error of your ways. By then it will be too late for you to recover.

it really won't...by the way I made a thread for you, and others too, in the Pub.

[Chloe]

But you are telling us its all over if trump gets elected.

so you are caught up in your own hyperbole too

No i'm not. I'm just saying both Trump and Hillary are terrible horrible people and terrible horrible candidates. It's not the end of the world though.

[zelmo1234]

No, I know them for what they are. I am more worried about Trump and who he is because he is unlike the politician. With a politician you have time, because politicians will move slowly. Trump will not move slowly to make his changes and those changes are unlikely to benefit you.

It depends on how you look at things. I think under a Trump Presidency we will see some help come to the inner cities of the USA. Some actual help and not just lip service. Now there may be come growing pains as they clean up the thugs that are causing many of the issues.

I think that he will move to make the VA work for vets and it will happened Quickly. Now there are likely a lot of people that are causing the changed to be delayed that will get fired. But the vets will get better care.

I think that you will see some wage increase and a return of some of the manufacturing under Trump, but if you are an open borders person there will likely be a crack down on the border.

So it depends on where you are standing as to weather things are getting better or not.

[MisterVeritis]

it really won't...by the way I made a thread for you, and others too, in the Pub.
The thread really is for you. I have no need of it.

[Cthulhu]

He will buy time to get an Article V Convention of States in place.
Dreams are nice. But if you think for a moment either party is going to stomach that, I have a bridge for sale.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[MisterVeritis]

Dreams are nice. But if you think for a moment either party is going to stomach that, I have a bridge for sale.

And yet it continues to move forward...

[Dr. Who]

All successful politicians are narcissistic (http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/01/16/is-narcissism-an-essential-leadership-trait/64585.html). Likely applies to most if not all alpha males.
There is narcissism and the then there is pathological narcissism which may or may not be psychopathy. If that is combined with lesser actual intelligence, such that the person cannot even reason out when they are not the expert on everything, you have a problem. Trump is not actually all that smart. He is cunning but not always rational. He would have been far more successful if he didn't choose to ignore good advice. I don't believe for a minute that he is as rich as he purports to be. No one who is really rich needs to scam students nor do they have to scam condo buyers. He's a New York street hood in designer suits.

[Cthulhu]

And yet it continues to move forward...
Bring it.

I'm not ready for the zombies quite yet, but it will be a hell of a ride.

Cthulhu takes his bandages off swiftly.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[zelmo1234]

There is narcissism and the then there is pathological narcissism which may or may not be psychopathy. If that is combined with lesser actual intelligence, such that the person cannot even reason out when they are not the expert on everything, you have a problem. Trump is not actually all that smart. He is cunning but not always rational. He would have been far more successful if he didn't choose to ignore good advice. I don't believe for a minute that he is as rich as he purports to be. No one who is really rich needs to scam students nor do they have to scam condo buyers. He's a New York street hood in designer suits.

But here again if that was the case then you should be all over the Clintons.

The White Water Land deal was a Scam it was never even designed to be legit.

And the Clintons have a College issue of their own.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/04/18/hillary-clintons-ties-profit-education-companies

[zelmo1234]

Bring it.

I'm not ready for the zombies quite yet, but it will be a hell of a ride.

Cthulhu takes his bandages off swiftly.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

Yes it will be interesting to see what happens to this once great nation and if it actually stays together.

[Cthulhu]

Yes it will be interesting to see what happens to this once great nation and if it actually stays together.
Me thinks natural disasters and disease will be our greatest threats.

And each other. Get to know your neighbors.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[Mac-7]

It sounds like you would elect Satan if he had the platform that you wanted to hear. Don't you consider that he might be lying?

Trump is not satan

Trump probably does not appreciate how hard it will be to move big ideas through washington if the establishment is against it.

if you choose to,call that lying I cant stop you.

[Dr. Who]

Who, I can't talk with you about this anymore because you are not being Honest. Trump did make the comment, that he could shoot someone. it was in response to the press talking about the loyalty of his supports.

What you are trying to make out of it, is EXACTLY what the NAZI's did that you are so worried about.

Mr. Trump is a business man. Business is a blood sport. I understand that the left does not see it that way but it is.

And YES business people want to win 100% of the time. I know that I do.

But Mr. Trump is actually known for being a very generous and Charitable Man. He certainly does not need to be the President

Remember just 18 months ago the left loved Trump he was Great. but now he is evil! What happened.
I have never loved Trump. I always thought that he was a creep. I'm not sure to whom on the left you are referring, but it's not me. I give guys like him a wide berth and I avoided watching his reality TV show, because I find him repulsive and obnoxious. He's a taker and he exploits people.

He is not charitable except for what it can do for his tax return. Even at that he scams. He cons a municipality regarding a worthless piece of property that he can't unload and gives it an arbitrary and inflated value as a charitable donation on his tax return and then the municipality foots the bill for all of the improvements necessary to make it viable. It ends up costing the municipality more than it's worth. Some charitable donation. However the Donald is a great charitable citizen, who also happens to scam students for $5K a pop. He also sells his names to condo developments, to help with sales and if anything goes wrong, pulls his name off and leaves people in lurch who would not have otherwise purchased those properties without his name. He's a mercenary.

[Dr. Who]

But here again if that was the case then you should be all over the Clintons.

The White Water Land deal was a Scam it was never even designed to be legit.

And the Clintons have a College issue of their own.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/04/18/hillary-clintons-ties-profit-education-companies
Meh, she's a hypocrite, but she is at least not representing a scam.

[Dr. Who]

Trump is not satan

Trump probably does not appreciate how hard it will be to move big ideas through washington if the establishment is against it.

if you choose to,call that lying I cant stop you.
If I thought for a minute that he actually cared about anything that he has been spouting, I would agree that he is sufficiently full of himself to be unable to consider that he will get little to no support for his plans. However, I don't believe that he is sincere in the least.

[Mac-7]

If I thought for a minute that he actually cared about anything that he has been spouting, I would agree that he is sufficiently full of himself to be unable to consider that he will get little to no support for his plans. However, I don't believe that he is sincere in the least.

I suspect that what you really fear is that trump will get something done if elected.

which he might do because he will have many levers of power at his disposal.

[Dr. Who]

I suspect that what you really fear is that trump will get something done if elected.

which he might do because he will have many levers of power at his disposal.
No. What I truly fear is some kind of major international incident that provokes a major war. If he gets nothing done in the four years following the election, no big deal.

[Chloe]

No. What I truly fear is some kind of major international incident that provokes a major war. If he gets nothing done in the four years following the election, no big deal.

I will definitely agree with this. If he is elected and nothing changes either way for four years ill be happy.

[Mac-7]

No. What I truly fear is some kind of major international incident that provokes a major war. If he gets nothing done in the four years following the election, no big deal.

So you and chloe are freaked out and reacting from fear instead of reason.

Its the same tactic LBJ used in 1964 against Goldwater.

[Peter1469]

There is narcissism and the then there is pathological narcissism which may or may not be psychopathy. If that is combined with lesser actual intelligence, such that the person cannot even reason out when they are not the expert on everything, you have a problem. Trump is not actually all that smart. He is cunning but not always rational. He would have been far more successful if he didn't choose to ignore good advice. I don't believe for a minute that he is as rich as he purports to be. No one who is really rich needs to scam students nor do they have to scam condo buyers. He's a New York street hood in designer suits.

Hillary is unfit. That is for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dax7fzcx-Mo

[Common]

I think that's an hysterical assessment in that it's based on hysteria, not that I found it funny.

I think there is far too much of this hyperbole and that has led to the popularity of Trump.

If people really want to start a revolution because gays can marry, or that transexuals want to use the bathroom, or that people don't want to judge an entire religion based on the actions of a few, or an irrational fear of immigrants...then go for it. You wont have popular support and you wont win.


Edit: It's also a good idea to spell check a rant. Errors make it less convincing.

You have alot to say but you dont know squat, if you think those two issues are driving OUR country into a whole and caused the rise of trump, you are clueless to the real problems as people see it.

[Common]

yet you truly believe that Donald J. Trump is the answer and doesn't do or stand for any of the things you are rallying against in this OP? I don't care about Hillary Clinton, she is absolutely no different, but Trump, whom you support, constantly espouses lies as truths, slaps the rule of law in the face, opposes people for their beliefs, and has no genuine belief in God which you want protected. Is electing him really going to bring us back from the brink that you think we are at?

You have it wrong chloe, no one thinks trump is the answer. We have two choices him or hillary and HE GETS MY VOTE OVER HERE HANDS DOWN.

[Common]

There are many seniors who have resigned themselves that its over. The country isnt going to crash and burn now, it will take another 30 yrs. But all this liberal folly will come to an end.

This country doesnt generate enough money anymore and will generate less in the future to keep people on welfare and every other govts subsistence program along with the MANY millions of illegal immigrants here and the ones hillary is going to bring in.

Theres no jobs for all of them NOW just imagine another 10 million of them on govt assistance.

In the future hispanics will take over politics federally and in most locals. I would love to be alive to hear all the wailings of the left then.

I agree zelmo for all intents and purposes this is all over.

[Mac-7]

There are many seniors who have resigned themselves that its over. The country isnt going to crash and burn now, it will take another 30 yrs. But all this liberal folly will come to an end.

This country doesnt generate enough money anymore and will generate less in the future to keep people on welfare and every other govts subsistence program along with the MANY millions of illegal immigrants here and the ones hillary is going to bring in.

Theres no jobs for all of them NOW just imagine another 10 million of them on govt assistance.

In the future hispanics will take over politics federally and in most locals. I would love to be alive to hear all the wailings of the left then.

I agree zelmo for all intents and purposes this is all over.

Globalism is the process of making 90% of Americans poorer and spreading that money around the planet.

Minus shipping and handling charges that go to make the top 1% richer.

[Docthehun]

Personally, I don't care who you vote for in November. I can't lose one way or another. I'm a member of the "bad guy" crowd. Like a Catholic priest told me many years ago, "The Church isn't a buffet and you don't get to pick and choose that which you like and which you don't." So I'm part of that crowd, whether I like it or not. But we're not all the same and I have faith that the majority of us are fair and decent, like the majority of you.

Business isn't a blood sport unless you make it so. Good guys are much more likely to be successful, unless of course your sole measurement tool is dollars and cents. If I had taken my business plan to the Harvard School of Business, I suspect I would have been tossed out on my butt. Yet, almost thirty years later, here I am. Most every good, small business owner I know is doing just fine. The biggest complaint is finding workers. In my hometown, there's "Now Hiring" signs everywhere.

I recognize the attraction to Trump, but I've got to be honest, on this topic in this thread, Dr. Who is pretty much describing Trump to a tee from my perspective. In a sense, he's what capitalism is to the extreme, which requires a dictator. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way". If you really want a guy like that to lead, that's okay, but pick a benevolent dictator. Mr. Trump, bless his heart, isn't one of them.

As long as you vote, you'll be cool to me.

[Common Sense]

If anything signals the end is near, it's that Trump has enough people fooled with his hate and fear rhetoric that he's actually the nominee.

[Mac-7]

you're such a goober

I didnt insult you so why are you insulting me?

[Ethereal]

I didnt insult you so why are you insulting me?

You stated a falsehood about her. She does not support Hillary Clinton. You just assumed that because she's a young woman. Where I come from, that kind of behavior is insulting.

[Mac-7]

You stated a falsehood about her. She does not support Hillary Clinton. You just assumed that because she's a young woman. Where I come from, that kind of behavior is insulting.

Oh, ok if you say so.

I think chloe and Who are losing their composure over trump and it shows.

[Subdermal]

No. What I truly fear is some kind of major international incident that provokes a major war. If he gets nothing done in the four years following the election, no big deal.

But you've had nearly nothing to say about your leftist pol buddies who have made hundreds of smaller moves which will - in the end - provoke a major war. Nearly every foreign policy move engineered by Obama and Hillary is pushing us towards a major confrontation.

I'd suggest you pay attention to trees, instead of worrying about a forest.

[Chloe]

I didnt insult you so why are you insulting me?

Im just a 20 something know nothing, right?

[Mac-7]

Im just a 20 something know nothing, right?

I stopped calling you a know nothing a few weeks ago.

As for hillary you seem to agree with her positions 90-99% of the time even if you dont like her personally or ethically.

[Chloe]

I stopped calling you a know nothing a few weeks ago.

As for hillary you seem to agree with her positions 90-99% of the time even if you dont like her personally or ethically.

I can't even list all of her beliefs to agree with or disagree with. I don't even think she really has real beliefs just like Trump doesn't. It's all about money and power. I'm sure I agree with Clinton more than Trump but that doesn't mean much.

[Ethereal]

Oh, ok if you say so.

I think chloe and Who are losing their composure over trump and it shows.

I think people are annoyed by rudeness more than anything.

[Chris]

I didnt insult you so why are you insulting me?


Goober's a term of endearment.

https://i.snag.gy/J7XNme.jpg

[Mac-7]

Goober's a term of endearment.

https://i.snag.gy/J7XNme.jpg

So is "stick it up you ass" if I dont raise my voice when I say it

and I'm not raising my voice

[Chris]

So is "stick it up you ass" if I dont raise my voice when I say it

and I'm not raising my voice

Urban Dictionary: goober
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goober
Urban Dictionary
basically a goober is just a kindhearted, rather oblivious goofball. it's term of endearment really. it comes from the ancient scottish verb "to goub", which has to do ...

[Mac-7]

Urban Dictionary: goober
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goober (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goober)
Urban Dictionary
basically a goober is just a kindhearted, rather oblivious goofball. it's term of endearment really. it comes from the ancient scottish verb "to goub", which has to do ...

Being "rather oblivilous" is a compliment?

[Chris]

Being "rather oblivilous" is a compliment?

Not exactly my problem.

[nic34]

This race is beginning to remind of 1964.

according to democrats then barry goldwater was insane just like they are smearing trump in 2016.

hillary has done real harm to America and she is the true evil candidate in this election not trump

Even Barry eventually saw the error of his ways... I won't hold out hope for tEh Donald...

[Chloe]

Being "rather oblivilous" is a compliment?

The point is that I was just being playful. Yes I called you a name but it was more in a lighthearted way than the many other words I could have used.

[Mac-7]

Even Barry eventually saw the error of his ways... I won't hold out hope for tEh Donald...

Translation: goldwater stopped being crazy as soon as LBJ won the election

[Mac-7]

The point is that I was just being playful. Yes I called you a name but it was more in a lighthearted way than the many

other words I could have used.

choose your words carefully

because if they are too big I may not realize when I'm being insulted.

[Hal Jordan]

You have it wrong chloe, no one thinks trump is the answer. We have two choices him or hillary and HE GETS MY VOTE OVER HERE HANDS DOWN.

But we have more than two choices.

[Chris]

The point is that I was just being playful. Yes I called you a name but it was more in a lighthearted way than the many other words I could have used.

I think you hurt his feewings. :cry:

[Chris]

Translation: goldwater stopped being crazy as soon as LBJ won the election



Goldwater once said something about disagreeing without being disagreeable.

[Chloe]

choose your words carefully

because if they are too big I may not realize when I'm being insulted.

I'm sorry that I insulted you

[Safety]

But we have more than two choices.

Our liberals have more than two choices, our conservatives will not consider Johnson because of their hatred of Clinton.

[Chris]

I'm sorry that I insulted you

https://i.snag.gy/wCBcti.jpg

[Safety]

Goldwater once said something about disagreeing without being disagreeable.

http://img.picturequotes.com/2/58/57679/tact-is-the-art-of-making-a-point-without-making-an-enemy-quote-1.jpg

[MisterVeritis]

Yes it will be interesting to see what happens to this once great nation and if it actually stays together.
An Article V convention of states is the only process that has any chance of restoring the nation.

[MisterVeritis]

No. What I truly fear is some kind of major international incident that provokes a major war. If he gets nothing done in the four years following the election, no big deal.
Maintaining the status quo will result in economic collapse. That is a big deal.

[MisterVeritis]

In a sense, he's what capitalism is to the extreme, which requires a dictator.
Capitalism does not require a dictator. This single phrase tells me that in the big things you don't know what you are talking bout.

[MisterVeritis]

Im just a 20 something know nothing, right?
The good news is that in just a few years that can change.

[MisterVeritis]

http://img.picturequotes.com/2/58/57679/tact-is-the-art-of-making-a-point-without-making-an-enemy-quote-1.jpg
Newton had more enemies than most. He was wholly disagreeable.

[Chloe]

The good news is that in just a few years that can change.

Yes I'm looking forward to when I turn 25 so I can have a fully developed and functioning brain.

[nic34]

You stated a falsehood about her. She does not support Hillary Clinton. You just assumed that because she's a young woman. Where I come from, that kind of behavior is insulting.

there's a lot of that crap going around these days....

Thanks Trump....

[nic34]

Yes I'm looking forward to when I turn 25 so I can have a fully developed and functioning brain.

You already do......

[Docthehun]

Capitalism does not require a dictator. This single phrase tells me that in the big things you don't know what you are talking bout.

This falls in line with your take on my knowledge of municipal power systems.

Another free pass.

[Mac-7]

I'm sorry that I insulted you


Did you?

I'm told that goober isnt an insult.

In any case I'm sorry if I mistakenly thought you were trying to insult me.

At least I didnt get angry and return tit for tat.

[Mac-7]

Yes I'm looking forward to when I turn 25 so I can have a fully developed and functioning brain.

Yes, but reaching adulthood means you cant stay on your parents obamacare policy

[Dr. Who]

Maintaining the status quo will result in economic collapse. That is a big deal.
He's unlikely to get much cooperation from either side of the House. How's that going to work?

[zelmo1234]

Personally, I don't care who you vote for in November. I can't lose one way or another. I'm a member of the "bad guy" crowd. Like a Catholic priest told me many years ago, "The Church isn't a buffet and you don't get to pick and choose that which you like and which you don't." So I'm part of that crowd, whether I like it or not. But we're not all the same and I have faith that the majority of us are fair and decent, like the majority of you.

Business isn't a blood sport unless you make it so. Good guys are much more likely to be successful, unless of course your sole measurement tool is dollars and cents. If I had taken my business plan to the Harvard School of Business, I suspect I would have been tossed out on my butt. Yet, almost thirty years later, here I am. Most every good, small business owner I know is doing just fine. The biggest complaint is finding workers. In my hometown, there's "Now Hiring" signs everywhere.

I recognize the attraction to Trump, but I've got to be honest, on this topic in this thread, Dr. Who is pretty much describing Trump to a tee from my perspective. In a sense, he's what capitalism is to the extreme, which requires a dictator. "Lead, follow, or get out of the way". If you really want a guy like that to lead, that's okay, but pick a benevolent dictator. Mr. Trump, bless his heart, isn't one of them.

As long as you vote, you'll be cool to me.

What kind of Business are you in, if you don't mind me asking?

And there are people that are comfortable, and that is OK for them. I want to win! I have been like that for a long time. I play to win, and so do my competitors.

[zelmo1234]

If anything signals the end is near, it's that Trump has enough people fooled with his hate and fear rhetoric that he's actually the nominee.

Here is your big Chance

What is the most hateful statement that you think he has made so far?

Which one do you think is the most fearful?

[zelmo1234]

Our liberals have more than two choices, our conservatives will not consider Johnson because of their hatred of Clinton.

Actually he is open border, so that is part of the issues.

[Common Sense]

Here is your big Chance

What is the most hateful statement that you think he has made so far?

Which one do you think is the most fearful?

I'm not going to list the ridiculous things he's said. However, he's characterized Mexicans as rapist and murderers, he's said awful things about women and Muslims and he's prayed on people's fears in order to advance politically. If you're unable to see that, no list of the well known things he has said will convince you. It only means you've bought his schtick.

[Peter1469]

I'm not going to list the ridiculous things he's said. However, he's characterized Mexicans as rapist and murderers, he's said awful things about women and Muslims and he's prayed on people's fears in order to advance politically. If you're unable to see that, no list of the well known things he has said will convince you. It only means you've bought his schtick.

A mistake or a lie?

He said the ones that the government pushes our way are those things.

I think B.

[zelmo1234]

there's a lot of that crap going around these days....

Thanks Trump....

Blaming Trump is not being Honest. And we know that Liberals don't care about any strife that is caused by Democrats. There is plenty of blame to go around, but much of it is coming from the Whitehouse as well.

[zelmo1234]

He's unlikely to get much cooperation from either side of the House. How's that going to work?

Fantastic. A government governs best that governs the least.

Hillary is not going to get anything through either The GOP understands that to get the people back on their side, they need to stand up to the Democrats. Hillary is easy to stand up to, because nobody Trusts her and nobody likes her.

[zelmo1234]

I'm not going to list the ridiculous things he's said. However, he's characterized Mexicans as rapist and murderers, he's said awful things about women and Muslims and he's prayed on people's fears in order to advance politically. If you're unable to see that, no list of the well known things he has said will convince you. It only means you've bought his schtick.

Actually the one thing that you listed is a lie!

here is what he said!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6QEqoYgQxw

What he said was true, and it was not about Mexicans it was about Illegals.

[Common Sense]

Fuck, now Trump says he could have prevented 9/11.

How are people so naive and simplistic to support this asshat?

[Common Sense]

"..and some, I assume are good people". Fuck off.

I'm starting to think some of you deserve a President Trump.

[Ethereal]

"..and some, I assume are good people". $#@! off.

I'm starting to think some of you deserve a President Trump.

If Trump becomes the President and he deescalates the situation with Russia, Canada is free to pick up the slack and confront Russia themselves. After all, the fate of Crimea is a big deal for the average Canadian.

[zelmo1234]

$#@!, now Trump says he could have prevented 9/11.

How are people so naive and simplistic to support this asshat?

Hold the Phone here Capitan!

The left has been blaming GWB for not stopping the attacks for a decade and a half?

Now someone agrees with them and he is an Asshat??? Why?

[zelmo1234]

"..and some, I assume are good people". $#@! off.

I'm starting to think some of you deserve a President Trump.

So are you willing to admit that he was talking about illegals and Not Mexican or are you just going to keep using profanity. Which is a No! No! if a conservative does it bye the Bye!

This is why I have been saying that people need to eliminate as many dealings with the left as possible in their life, as you can see they have fooled you into believing that Trump said terrible things about Mexicans

Instead we find he was speaking the truth!

[Peter1469]

https://liberalsbackwardsthink.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/hillarys-lies.jpg

[MisterVeritis]

He's unlikely to get much cooperation from either side of the House. How's that going to work?
Obama used unconstitutional executive orders to legislate. He paid no penalty, Go Trump. Catch him if you can.

[MisterVeritis]

Yes I'm looking forward to when I turn 25 so I can have a fully developed and functioning brain.
I look forward to it as well. You will be a different person in just a few years.

[Bethere]

So are you willing to admit that he was talking about illegals and Not Mexican or are you just going to keep using profanity. Which is a No! No! if a conservative does it bye the Bye!

This is why I have been saying that people need to eliminate as many dealings with the left as possible in their life, as you can see they have fooled you into believing that Trump said terrible things about Mexicans

Instead we find he was speaking the truth!


Slovenia doesn't send us their best people.

[MisterVeritis]

You already do......
Only a very few have fully functioning brains before age 25. The vast majority do not. The portions of the brain best able to understand consequences is "not done" until age 25.

[MisterVeritis]

Capitalism does not require a dictator. This single phrase tells me that in the big things you don't know what you are talking about.

This falls in line with your take on my knowledge of municipal power systems.

Another free pass.
Are you dodging? You are. How cute.

[MisterVeritis]

"..and some, I assume are good people". $#@! off.

I'm starting to think some of you deserve a President Trump.
We do. At least those of us who still love our country. The scum don't deserve him. But the rain falls upon the good and the evil equally.

[zelmo1234]

Slovenia doesn't send us their best people.

Are they walking across the southern border un-vetted and illegal now too??????

Good lord, somebody should build a Wall!

This is why we have to charge more for homes if we find out the Family is liberal. It is because the twist things and lie and it just cost more to build, because they can't be honest about anything.

I encourage anyone in service businesses to not publish prices. because you just can't work for liberal for the same price as you can a conservative.

[zelmo1234]

I have decided that the first thing that I am going to do is turn into the person that the left has been accusing me of all along.

I get the lies and ridicule, and call all there nasty names, might as well have the money too.

[Docthehun]

What kind of Business are you in, if you don't mind me asking?

And there are people that are comfortable, and that is OK for them. I want to win! I have been like that for a long time. I play to win, and so do my competitors.

I'm a grease monkey.

[Docthehun]

Capitalism does not require a dictator. This single phrase tells me that in the big things you don't know what you are talking about.

Are you dodging? You are. How cute.

Diana Ross came before you (she killed it!), so I'm not dodging anything. Most every successful capitalist I know doesn't run their enterprise by committee. Most all have an open mind to discussion, but don't take a vote on decisions. Our businesses aren't democracies. So in a sense, we are indeed dictators, it's how we're perceived that makes all the difference. Like "The Wizard of Oz", there are good witches and bad witches.

[zelmo1234]

I'm a grease monkey.

Cool! A talent that I don't have but wish I did!