Who will win the presidency?

[Cigar]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

[zelmo1234]

I don't put it that high, but I think it is in the high 50's to low 60's

That of course is not to say that America is going to win. but it is a terrible choice to have to make this year.

[Crepitus]

Vote "None of the above" for president!

[Don]

Way too early to tell. Trump might just bide his time and let Clinton and company shoot their wads and then come up with something devastating that destroys them.

[Peter1469]

It is too early. There is way too much dirt on both sides to come out prior to the election.

It will be entertaining, that is for sure.

[Cigar]

It is too early. There is way too much dirt on both sides to come out prior to the election.

It will be entertaining, that is for sure.


True ... But The Democrats have The Trump Card in their corner :laugh:

[Peter1469]

True ... But The Democrats have The Trump Card in their corner :laugh:

Trump does look like a Democrat agent. Nevertheless, Hillary must not hold the Iron Throne.

[Cigar]

Trump does look like a Democrat agent. Nevertheless, Hillary must not hold the Iron Throne.


Don't worry, Republicans will just continue to say no and blame the Democrats

[Peter1469]

Don't worry, Republicans will just continue to say no and blame the Democrats

Take that up with the Republicans. At least you have the "media" on your team.

[Cthulhu]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now
Who will win?

The unworthy one.

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[Cthulhu]

Trump does look like a Democrat agent. Nevertheless, Hillary must not hold the Iron Throne.
The best way to manage opposition is to create it from the start.

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[Cigar]

Who will win?

The unworthy one.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.


:thumbsup20:

[Crepitus]

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[Cigar]

What can you do ... :laugh:

[Cthulhu]

What can you do ... :laugh:
Outbreed the stupids.

Cthulhu must spawn more.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[suds00]

this is not going to turn out well.we don't deserve this.

[Hal Jordan]

George R. R. Martin...

I mean Death...

[Cletus]

this is not going to turn out well.we don't deserve this.

Yes, we do.

[Dr. Who]

The best way to manage opposition is to create it from the start.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.
I have still not given up my notion that Trump is a ringer.

[Don]

Who will win the presidency? The establishment. They have owned it for a long time. The only people who will be their front man or woman are players and it is amongst them that one will be chosen to run their office for 4 or 8 years until the day comes that they can do away with the pretense altogether. Every 4 years they play us for suckers and every 4 years we fall for it.

[AZ Jim]

this is not going to turn out well.we don't deserve this.We DO deserve this. Our total apathy has brought us to the dregs.

[Cthulhu]

We DO deserve this. Our total apathy has brought us to the dregs.
False.

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[Mac-7]

Outbreed the stupids.

Cthulhu must spawn more.

Who says you are not one oF the stupids?

Trump started his campaign promoting issues that were most important to the voters

where were you?

who were you supporting that was better than trump?

if I recall you didnt go on record or take responsibility for any candidate.

just as you are not for anyone today but are just against them all.

[Peter1469]

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Ask Comey what to do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dax7fzcx-Mo

[Peter1469]

False.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

Correct, only those who demand the only possible vote is for (D) or (R) are to blame.

[Jets]

The Establishment will win. Pick your poison also known as party affiliation.

[Mac-7]

The Establishment will win. Pick your poison also known as party affiliation.

If trump wins the establishment loses

[Cthulhu]

Who says you are not one oF the stupids?

Trump started his campaign promoting issues that were most important to the voters

where were you?

who were you supporting that was better than trump?

if I recall you didnt go on record or take responsibility for any candidate.

just as you are not for anyone today but are just against them all.
You show your ass on a regular basis. Today is no exception.

I've been supporting the libertarian candidate - Johnson.

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[Cthulhu]

If trump wins the establishment loses
False. The people lose.

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[Mac-7]

You show your ass on a regular basis. Today is no exception.

I've been supporting the libertarian candidate - Johnson.

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Johnson is a republican who could not cut the mustard with republican voters in 2012 so libertarians got him on sale at a discount.

he cant win so you will never have to take personal responsinility for anything your choice does.

Thats practically the same as having no candidate at all.

[Mac-7]

False. The people lose.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

the establishment is less than 1% of the population and I think we both agree they are evil.

Trump voters are almost half the voting pool and they are anti establishment too.

only the democrat and libertarian voters are serving the interests of the establishment

[Oboe]

True ... But The Democrats have The Trump Card in their corner :laugh:

And Trump has the Queen of Spades.

[Cthulhu]

Johnson is a republican who could not cut the mustard with republican voters in 2012 so libertarians got him on sale at a discount.

he cant win so you will never have to take personal responsinility for anything your choice does.

Thats practically the same as having no candidate at all.
Lol. You voted for Cruz, who also didn't win. Yet now you lock step to the beat of a scumbag's drum.

You're lying to your conscience if you have one.

I have no such conflict. Hillary and Trump aren't candidates. They are they acceptable selections provided us by sociopathic elites.

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[Cthulhu]

the establishment is less than 1% of the population and I think we both agree they are evil.

Trump voters are almost half the voting pool and they are anti establishment too.

only the democrat and libertarian voters are serving the interests of the establishment
If you're voting R or D you are serving your overlords well.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[Mac-7]

Lol. You voted for Cruz, who also didn't win. Yet now you lock step to the beat of a scumbag's drum.

You're lying to your conscience if you have one.

I have no such conflict. Hillary and Trump aren't candidates. They are they acceptable selections provided us by sociopathic elites.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

Its not only that johnson will not win

he has absolutely no chance to win

whic makes him a wasted vote for people who do not want to take responsibility

[Hal Jordan]

If trump wins the establishment loses

If Trump wins, Trump loses? That makes absolutely no sense.

[Hal Jordan]

Its not only that johnson will not win

he has absolutely no chance to win

whic makes him a wasted vote for people who do not want to take responsibility

Repeating bullshit over and over doesn't turn it into gold.

[Cigar]

And Trump has the Queen of Spades.


I can see you don't play Poker :laugh:

[Professor Peabody]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Hillary can't win without Sanders supporters..............

[Docthehun]

I think I'll just keep score.

Good times!

[Bethere]

I think I'll just keep score.

Good times!

Indeed.

[Subdermal]

Repeating bull$#@! over and over doesn't turn it into gold.

He's correct. Johnson has zero chance of winning.

It is logical to support Trump to prevent Hillary from becoming President, because no one else possibly can.

[Hal Jordan]

He's correct. Johnson has zero chance of winning.

It is logical to support Trump to prevent Hillary from becoming President, because no one else possibly can.

Again with the repeating bullshit.

[Mac-7]

Again with the repeating bull$#@!.

Hearing the truth seems to upset you

sorry bout that

[Subdermal]

Again with the repeating bull$#@!.

Your response is not an argument.

[Hal Jordan]

Hearing the truth seems to upset you

sorry bout that

One day you may learn to recognize truth. I won't hold my breath.

[Hal Jordan]

Your response is not an argument.

Did I say it was?

[Bethere]

Did I say it was?

Now THAT is an argument.

[Hal Jordan]

Your response is not an argument.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

[Cthulhu]

Its not only that johnson will not win

he has absolutely no chance to win

whic makes him a wasted vote for people who do not want to take responsibility

He may not win.

However I will not have to live with the knowledge that I pawned my conscience for a football team jersey.

Your comment on responsibility? As far off the base as one can be. With more freedom comes more responsibility. If anything, voting for the establishment is divorcing one from responsibility so that Mother Welfare and Father State can take care of you.

People continually looking for masters to subjugate them will find them everywhere.

[Cthulhu]

He's correct. Johnson has zero chance of winning.

It is logical to support Trump to prevent Hillary from becoming President, because no one else possibly can.

Logical only if you feeling voting for your favorite actor. If you value freedom either choice is rubbish. Thus, Johnson is the only logical choice for me.

[Subdermal]

Did I say it was?

Did I require you to?

[Subdermal]

Logical only if you feeling voting for your favorite actor. If you value freedom either choice is rubbish. Thus, Johnson is the only logical choice for me.

I disagree, because I view Trump far differently from you.

Regardless: valuing freedom as I do, I see no way to enhance such a value by voting for a guy that {a} I disagree with on many issues, and {b} has a 0% chance of implementing his ideas.

I think you're fooling yourself into thinking you're doing something. You may as well have taken your ballot home with you.

[gamewell45]

It is too early. There is way too much dirt on both sides to come out prior to the election.

It will be entertaining, that is for sure.

You bring the pop corn and I'll bring the beer. :)

[Hal Jordan]

Did I require you to?

Do I care what you "require"?

[Hal Jordan]

I disagree, because I view Trump far differently from you.

Regardless: valuing freedom as I do, I see no way to enhance such a value by voting for a guy that {a} I disagree with on many issues, and {b} has a 0% chance of implementing his ideas.

I think you're fooling yourself into thinking you're doing something. You may as well have taken your ballot home with you.

Yes, you view Trump differently because you bought his bullshit. He's saying what he needs to in order to get elected. He's not going to attempt to lessen government. On the contrary, he's going to add to it. A wall? Not gong to happen under Trump.

[decedent]

False. The people lose.

Chit got real when he started asking about the nuclear option. It's no longer funny.

[Mac-7]

He may not win.

However I will not have to live with the knowledge that I pawned my conscience for a football team jersey.

Your comment on responsibility? As far off the base as one can be. With more freedom comes more responsibility. If anything, voting for the establishment is divorcing one from responsibility so that Mother Welfare and Father State can take care of you.

People continually looking for masters to subjugate them will find them everywhere.

I have the more adult sense of civic responsibility.

my duty is to vote for the best candidate with a chance to win.

symbolic votes based on idealism are pointless

in this election only two candidates have a realistic chance of winning and that is trump or hillary

between the two trump is much better than hillary

[Cthulhu]

I have the more adult sense of civic responsibility.

my duty is to vote for the best candidate with a chance to win.

symbolic votes based on idealism are pointless

in this election only two candidates have a realistic chance of winning and that is trump or hillary

between the two trump is much better than hillary
This country was founded on certain ideals. Voting for candidates whose aspirations that are antithetical to them is what is unraveling the country.

You're part of the problem, not the solution.

Winning an election means worms if you aren't reclaiming or preserving your freedom.

Eggplant.

Sent from my evil, baby seal-clubbing cellphone.

[Mac-7]

This country was founded on certain ideals. Voting for candidates whose aspirations that are antithetical to them is what is unraveling the country.

You're part of the problem, not the solution.

Winning an election means worms if you aren't reclaiming or preserving your freedom.

.

Your formula is one of NEVER winning any election.

third party people like you always finish third.

but that means you can act superior to the rest of us for 4 more years and that seems to matter most

[Truth Detector]

Hillary can't win without Sanders supporters..............

...and many will stay home.

[Docthehun]

...and many will stay home.

Or just go to class instead.

[Subdermal]

Do I care what you "require"?

Did I ask you that?

[Hal Jordan]

Your formula is one of NEVER winning any election.

third party people like you always finish third.

but that means you can act superior to the rest of us for 4 more years and that seems to matter most

Without people voting third party, your party never would have existed. So go ahead and be a hypocrite.

[Hal Jordan]

Did I ask you that?

Why would that matter?

[Subdermal]

Without people voting third party, your party never would have existed. So go ahead and be a hypocrite.

The GOP went from a twinkle in an eye - in 1854 - to succeeding in electing Abraham Lincoln to the presidency 6 years later.

The comparison is poor.

[Subdermal]

Why would that matter?

Why did you ask the question?

:biglaugh:

[Mac-7]

The GOP went from a twinkle in an eye - in 1854 - to succeeding in electing Abraham Lincoln to the presidency 6 years later.

The comparison is poor.

The GOP had a common mission in 1854

the current Tweeners are scattered all over the spectrum and seldom agree with each other much less a majority of the voters

[American Cynic]

With 3 months to go, it's way too early to make predictions. Anything can happen in that time frame. Polls are historically inaccurate this far out.

[Hal Jordan]

Why did you ask the question?

:biglaugh:

Why would you ask an unrelated question?

[Hal Jordan]

The GOP went from a twinkle in an eye - in 1854 - to succeeding in electing Abraham Lincoln to the presidency 6 years later.

The comparison is poor.

Not really. The point still stands that the Republicans were a third party and took the presidency. Thanks for proving my point.

[Subdermal]

Why would you ask an unrelated question?

Then why would it matter? ;)

[Subdermal]

Not really. The point still stands that the Republicans were a third party and took the presidency. Thanks for proving my point.

If your point was that there is clearly a major difference between voting for a Republican in 1860, and trying to vote for a libertarian in 2016, then...you're welcome.

[Hal Jordan]

Then why would it matter? ;)

What are you on about?

[Hal Jordan]

If your point was that there is clearly a major difference between voting for a Republican in 1860, and trying to vote for a libertarian in 2016, then...you're welcome.

No, I stated my point in the post you quoted.