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Peter1469
08-03-2016, 06:16 PM
Manufacturing in America (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/01/what-republicans-and-democrats-get-wrong-about-american-manufacturing/)

The issue of manufacturing in America is much more complicated than either candidate realizes. Manufacturing output is at record levels in the US. Manufacturing jobs are not. That is because of automation, robotics, and productivity.


In an op-ed (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-griswold-globalization-and-trade-help-manufacturing-20160801-snap-story.html) for the Los Angeles Times, Daniel Griswold of the Mercatus Center at George Mason University offered an important reminder that American manufacturing is actually at a peak, not a trough. The output from U.S. factories is roughly two-and-a-half times what it was in the early 1970s, according to government data. Industrial production hit an record high just before the Great Recession and is nearing that level again.

Industrial production: manufacturingIndex 2012 = 100









50

100



1972

2016


36.9

103.9




Source: St. Louis Fed
WAPO.ST/WONKBLOG (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/)



“America remains a manufacturing powerhouse,” Griswold said in an interview. “It’s just a different mix of stuff than we were making 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.”


Clothes, toys and steel beams may come from overseas, but the United States is refining oil, producing new medicines and building plenty of cars, airplanes and heavy machinery that are shipped around the world. American factories now add a record $2.4 trillion of value to the economy, Griswold said.


Free trade has not held back the manufacturing industry, he argued; it has allowed it to thrive. More than half of goods imported are not destined for store shelves but for the factory floor, materials to be used so that American factories can make even more stuff. Here’s the explanation from his op-ed:




Access to expanding global markets allows U.S. manufacturers to enjoy economies of scale, reducing their per-unit production costs and enhancing their competitiveness. The additional revenue can be reinvested in research and development, leading to new products and expanding market share. This is why U.S. jobs in trade-oriented industries typically pay 18 percent more than non-trade-connected jobs.

The problem is that the country has achieved this massive expansion in manufacturing output with fewer and fewer workers. Government data shows manufacturing employment has dropped from more than 19 million in 1979 to about 12 million today, a whopping 37 percent decline.

A big problem in my view is that all those people making up the stats for the non-participants in the labor force participation rate are unqualified for modern jobs. If they don't get qualified they will be public wards for life.

We need to reduce their benefits over time. We must as a society take care of the needy and provide a safety net. We also must cut the ropes holding the safety hammocks in place.

texan
08-03-2016, 07:17 PM
I am gonna bring jobs back its gonna be huge, it will be beautiful.......

Common
08-03-2016, 07:23 PM
Manufacturing in America (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/01/what-republicans-and-democrats-get-wrong-about-american-manufacturing/)

The issue of manufacturing in America is much more complicated than either candidate realizes. Manufacturing output is at record levels in the US. Manufacturing jobs are not. That is because of automation, robotics, and productivity.



A big problem in my view is that all those people making up the stats for the non-participants in the labor force participation rate are unqualified for modern jobs. If they don't get qualified they will be public wards for life.

We need to reduce their benefits over time. We must as a society take care of the needy and provide a safety net. We also must cut the ropes holding the safety hammocks in place.

All the jobs that highschool grads could make and did make living off of were outsourced for dirt cheap labor, then they import them back here for free. We let corporate america rape us

Peter1469
08-03-2016, 07:25 PM
All the jobs that highschool grads could make and did make living off of were outsourced for dirt cheap labor, then they import them back here for free. We let corporate america rape us

I agree.

The article seems to point to increase productivity as the main problem.

What do we do with the inadequate?

texan
08-03-2016, 08:42 PM
I agree.

The article seems to point to increase productivity as the main problem.

What do we do with the inadequate?

Ask them to quit posting?

Mac-7
08-04-2016, 03:50 AM
Manufacturing in America (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/01/what-republicans-and-democrats-get-wrong-about-american-manufacturing/)

The issue of manufacturing in America is much more complicated than either candidate realizes. Manufacturing output is at record levels in the US. Manufacturing jobs are not. That is because of automation, robotics, and productivity.



A big problem in my view is that all those people making up the stats for the non-participants in the labor force participation rate are unqualified for modern jobs. If they don't get qualified they will be public wards for life.

We need to reduce their benefits over time. We must as a society take care of the needy and provide a safety net. We also must cut the ropes holding the safety hammocks in place.

Is there any reason America cant make the stuff we import from china along with our current output?

it seems rather stupid to pay people on welfare because they are not smart enough to do high tech manufacturing when they could stand on an aasembly line and do low tech low skill jobs instead of importing those products from china.

Mac-7
08-04-2016, 03:58 AM
All the jobs that highschool grads could make and did make living off of were outsourced for dirt cheap labor, then they import them back here for free. We let corporate america rape us

Wrong!

the corporations make money either way

You (we) let the free traders screw us.

When they (meaning clinton, gore and the repubs in congress) allowed cheap chinese stuff to be imported to America that is what drove American manufacturing jobs overseas.

Peter1469
08-04-2016, 04:41 AM
Ask them to quit posting?

That doesn't assist with the manufacturing employment numbers.