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Common
08-09-2016, 04:41 AM
This comes from the site that the left here loves to quote so no right wing hit site. 538

There are other traditional democrat women that are not supporting hillary.
If anyone but trump had won the primary, Hillary would be 15 pts behind and stay there.

AMERICA dislikes her as much as trump for good reason.

About A Third Of Bernie Sanders’s Supporters Still Aren’t Backing Hillary Clinton


One of the big questions heading into the Democratic National Convention late last month was whether Hillary Clinton could rally (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-clinton-might-have-a-tough-time-flipping-the-sanders-holdouts/) Bernie Sanders supporters to her side. Before the convention, many Sanders supporters said (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sanderss-endorsement-may-help-among-his-most-anti-clinton-supporters/) they would support Clinton in a two-way matchup against Donald Trump, but when pollsters offered them third-party candidates as an option, they abandoned her.
Then, on the first night of the convention, Sanders gave his big speech urging his voters to support Clinton, and we can now see that the convention did help persuade some Sanders voters to switch. But about a third of Sanders’s voters are undecided or still going with a third-party candidate when given the choice.
Before we get to all the data, let’s be clear about what we’re discussing: The Sanders holdouts aren’t that large a group. If they were forced to choose only between Clinton and Trump, the vast majority would choose Clinton and yet they would add only (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-clinton-might-have-a-tough-time-flipping-the-sanders-holdouts/) about 1 percentage point to her overall margin over Trump, according to current polls. That could matter in a close election, but the election isn’t looking (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/) all that close at the moment.
The conventions did move some Sanders voters to Clinton. In national polls (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/#now) taken right before the conventions, Clinton was winning around half of Sanders supporters when Gary Johnson and Jill Stein were included as an option — 57 percent (per CNN (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/07/17/rel8a.-.2016.pdf) and Marist (http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/us160705_MCC/McClatchy-Marist Poll_National Nature of the Sample and Tables_Election 2016_July 13 2016.pdf)) and 44 percent (per YouGov (https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/6v3si1v679/econTabReport.pdf)).1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/about-a-third-of-bernie-sanders-supporters-still-arent-backing-hillary-clinton/#fn-1) Now, Clinton is at 69 percent (CNN (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/08/01/2016.post-dem.convention.pdf)), 65 percent (Marist (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article93789227.ece/BINARY/Complete data for the McClatchy-Marist Poll)) and 49 percent (YouGov (https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/6oxnwsm36w/econTabReport.pdf)).
Without third-party candidates, Clinton was already doing much better with Bernie’s fans. Still, the convention helped: She moved from 79 percent up to 91 percent among Sanders supporters in CNN’s polls, 68 percent to 75 percent per Marist, and 59 percent to 65 percent in YouGov’s surveys.
But the sizable portion of Sanders supporters defecting from Clinton when given other options could still be a problem for the Clinton campaign if the election tightens.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/about-a-third-of-bernie-sanders-supporters-still-arent-backing-hillary-clinton/

Peter1469
08-09-2016, 04:42 AM
Why would they?

Common
08-09-2016, 05:03 AM
Thats a big chunk of votes considering the size of Bernies support. They may in the end vote for hillary but if they stay home, that will leave a mark

Peter1469
08-09-2016, 05:05 AM
I have said we are going to see a record low turnout.

Common
08-09-2016, 05:16 AM
I think low turnout from some segments and not others.