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Cigar
08-09-2016, 08:14 AM
FiveThirtyEight.com (http://FiveThirtyEight.com)We’ve reached that stage of the campaign. The back-to-school commercials are on the air, and the “unskewing” of polls has begun — the quadrennial exercise in which partisans simply adjust the polls to get results more to their liking, usually with a thin sheen of math-y words to make it all sound like rigorous analysis instead of magical thinking.

If any of this sounds familiar — and if I sound a little exasperated — it’s probably because we went through this four years ago. Remember UnSkewedPolls.com (http://UnSkewedPolls.com)? (The website is defunct, but you can view an archived picture of it here.) The main contention of that site and others like it was that the polls had too many Democratic respondents in their samples. Dean Chambers, who ran the site, regularly wrote that the polls were vastly undercounting independents and should have used a higher proportion of Republicans in their samples. But in the end, the polls underestimated President Obama’s margin.

Now the unskewers are back, again insisting that pollsters are “using” more Democrats than they should, and that the percentage of Democrats and Republicans should be equal, or that there should be more Republicans. They point to surveys like the recent one from ABC News and The Washington Post, in which 33 percent of registered voters identified as Democrats compared to 27 percent as Republicans. That poll found Hillary Clinton ahead by 8 percentage points.

But let’s say this plainly: The polls are not “skewed.” They weren’t in 2012, and they aren’t now.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/

Mark III
08-09-2016, 09:08 AM
What is more likely? that Trump will win, or that he will lose by 10 points or more? Be honest.

MisterVeritis
08-09-2016, 09:13 AM
FiveThirtyEight.com (http://FiveThirtyEight.com)

But let’s say this plainly: The polls are not “skewed.” They weren’t in 2012, and they aren’t now.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/
I have no doubt that the polls are essentially right.

But now we have more details on Trump's pro-economic-growth plan. It is an election winner. The economy, national security, including defending our borders, language and culture (thanks Michael Savage), and Clinton's perfidy need to be Trump's focus for the next 90 days.

An American Justice Department can indict Broke-Brained Crooked Hillary next year.

MisterVeritis
08-09-2016, 09:14 AM
What is more likely? that Trump will win, or that he will lose by 10 points or more? Be honest.
Trump is going to win. :-)

Common Sense
08-09-2016, 09:14 AM
Trump is going to win. :-)


I wouldn't bet on it.

MisterVeritis
08-09-2016, 09:18 AM
I wouldn't bet on it.
You are not required to. Just watch from afar.

Cigar
08-09-2016, 09:23 AM
What is more likely? that Trump will win, or that he will lose by 10 points or more? Be honest.

Hillary will Win ... I could care less by how much ... either way it will be an epic blow to the Republicans Party, and they deserve it.

debbietoo
08-09-2016, 09:30 AM
Looks like Georgia and North Carolina may turn blue! This will be an epic election in that we will have elected the first woman president ever!