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Cigar
08-10-2016, 12:39 PM
If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician
– not the advancement of your own policies – it fans the flames of extremism


(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw#img-1)http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2742654.1470661642%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/obama.jpg (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/obama-opens-golfing-ability-vacation-games-article-1.2742655)



Before he finished his second year in office, Obama was such an object of Republican loathing that the Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell could say – with impunity – that “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician – not the advancement of your own policies through debate or legislation – then you are already in pretty desperate shape. You render it impossible to compromise with your opponents, and you fan the flames of extremism that will burn anyone in the center.

You also look weak and foolish when you lose, surrendering the stage to someone who can vilify his opponents better than you. So don’t look dazed and confused at Donald Trump when he runs your playbook more convincingly than your own team. It’s too late to fret about endorsing his kooky positions – like deporting millions of undocumented immigrants, treating all Muslims as enemies and blowing up the deficit – when they are only logical extensions of your own.

After eight years of conservative caricature, you may be forgiven for thinking that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim socialist with terrorist sympathies and job-destroying policies on healthcare and bank regulation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw

:grin:
(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw)

zelmo1234
08-10-2016, 12:43 PM
Certainly the statement by Mitch was a terrible statement, and he has proven to be a poor leader of the Senate.

But to some extent President Obama did make his bed as well. The ACA was something that was actually rammed through after sitting down with GOP leaders and then ignoring all of their input and passed without a single GOP vote.

That set the stage. President Obama I am sure is a Good person. I don't think you can raise children of the Character that he has with out that. But as a President he has been very opposed to any compromise as well. And that has cost him a lot in the house and the senate.

Mac-7
08-10-2016, 12:51 PM
Obama was such an object of Republican loathing that the Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell could say[/COLOR]

– with impunity – that “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”




(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw)

Obama loathed America before republican patriots loathed him.

Cigar
08-10-2016, 12:56 PM
Obama loathed America before republican patriots loathed him.

Someone really close to you needs to tell you how ridiculous you are.

AZ Jim
08-10-2016, 01:02 PM
Someone really close to you needs to tell you how ridiculous you are.I doubt anyone wants to get that close to this fool.

Mac-7
08-10-2016, 01:03 PM
Someone really close to you needs to tell you how ridiculous you are.

Coming from a clown like you thats almost a compliment

Boris The Animal
08-10-2016, 01:18 PM
Useful idiots AKA Democrats want the entire country under their thumb. They think they alone are qualified to rule the masses.

Truth Detector
08-10-2016, 01:21 PM
If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician
– not the advancement of your own policies – it fans the flames of extremism


(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw#img-1)http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2742654.1470661642%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/obama.jpg (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/obama-opens-golfing-ability-vacation-games-article-1.2742655)

Before he finished his second year in office, Obama was such an object of Republican loathing that the Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell could say – with impunity – that “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician – not the advancement of your own policies through debate or legislation – then you are already in pretty desperate shape. You render it impossible to compromise with your opponents, and you fan the flames of extremism that will burn anyone in the center.

You also look weak and foolish when you lose, surrendering the stage to someone who can vilify his opponents better than you. So don’t look dazed and confused at Donald Trump when he runs your playbook more convincingly than your own team. It’s too late to fret about endorsing his kooky positions – like deporting millions of undocumented immigrants, treating all Muslims as enemies and blowing up the deficit – when they are only logical extensions of your own.

After eight years of conservative caricature, you may be forgiven for thinking that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim socialist with terrorist sympathies and job-destroying policies on healthcare and bank regulation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw

:grin:
(https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism?CMP=share_btn_tw)

This should get some kind of award for "creative writing." Nothing more amusing than idiots on the left still pretending Obama and the Democrats are winning. They lost the House in 2010; the Senate in 2014 and 2/3rds of State Houses are run by Republicans.

Yep, in liberal loony land, these are definite signs that Democrats are winning. :rofl:

AeonPax
08-10-2016, 01:31 PM
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To a point, the OP is 100% correct. I stopped supporting the lying, warmongering corporate puppet Obama by 2009 but because of his actions. Time and time again, the republicans attacked him on stupid, childish, inconsequential and definitely racial lines. None of the reasons I dislike Obama are covered by the right. In fact, I have always thought Obama to be more republican (or neocon) than Bush. In reality, the conservative right should be loving Obama......he has brought war and bloodshed of the innocent to a whole new level.....that should be dear to their hearts, but No. He's still black in their eyes.

Mac-7
08-10-2016, 01:53 PM
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To a point, the OP is 100% correct. I stopped supporting the lying, warmongering corporate puppet Obama by 2009 but because of his actions.

Time and time again, the republicans attacked him on stupid, childish, inconsequential and definitely racial lines.

None of the reasons I dislike Obama are covered by the right. In fact, I have always thought Obama to be more republican (or neocon) than Bush. In reality, the conservative right should be loving Obama......he has brought war and bloodshed of the innocent to a whole new level.....that should be dear to their hearts, but No. He's still black in their eyes.

Obama traded on his skin color for political advantage then and still does so to this day.

He promoted racial division

Oboe
08-10-2016, 01:55 PM
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To a point, the OP is 100% correct. I stopped supporting the lying, warmongering corporate puppet Obama by 2009 but because of his actions. Time and time again, the republicans attacked him on stupid, childish, inconsequential and definitely racial lines. None of the reasons I dislike Obama are covered by the right. In fact, I have always thought Obama to be more republican (or neocon) than Bush. In reality, the conservative right should be loving Obama......he has brought war and bloodshed of the innocent to a whole new level.....that should be dear to their hearts, but No. He's still black in their eyes.

Stupidest fucking thing I have read today.

Cigar
08-10-2016, 02:28 PM
Coming from a clown like you thats almost a compliment

:laugh: Yea ... it's a compliment

FindersKeepers
08-10-2016, 03:29 PM
The OP isn't stating anything unusual. The GOP despised Clinton and Carter just as much. And, the Democratic Party returned the favor with the Bushes and Reagan. It's a sign of political polarization -- nothing more.

If Hillary wins, she'll be despised by the GOP. If Trump wins, which is unlikely, the Democratic Party will loathe him.

It used to be a little easier to respect a president that wasn't from your party, but all that changed when technology made the planet a smaller place. Now, candidates and elected officials can no longer hide their mistakes from the public. It started with Nixon, and it's exploded. Now, everyone is out to record, photograph or hack into someone's private conversations, acts and business.

If you're going to grieve, grieve for our loss of privacy.

Peter1469
08-10-2016, 03:32 PM
Separation of powers.

debbietoo
08-11-2016, 03:15 PM
This should get some kind of award for "creative writing." Nothing more amusing than idiots on the left still pretending Obama and the Democrats are winning. They lost the House in 2010; the Senate in 2014 and 2/3rds of State Houses are run by Republicans.

Yep, in liberal loony land, these are definite signs that Democrats are winning. :rofl:

That's because the Republicans have rigged the House.

The power to draw these maps rests largely with state legislatures, and the GOP’s margins there have not been seen since before the Great Depression. There’s a reason why–a plan called REDMAP, as Daley explains in “Ratf**ked: The True Story Behind the Secret Plan to Steal America’s Democracy,” (https://www.amazon.com/Ratf-ked-Behind-Americas-Democracy/dp/1631491628/) published by W.W.Norton/Liveright this week. But as Daley writes, the Democrats aren’t just badly outnumbered, they are seemingly clueless about the basic nature of the battle they’re involved in, much less what to do about it. Unless that’s fixed—and fast—the Democrats will continue to be at least as broken as the Republicans, for as far as the eye can see.

You can trace gerrymandering back to the late 1700s, but the plan that the Republicans executed in 2010 and 2011 reinvented this game in a completely modern and transformative way. When Barack Obama was elected president in 2008, it was the fourth presidential election out of five in which the Democrats won the popular vote. They took 23 of 33 Senate seats and opened up a supermajority. They held the House. The future demographics looked scary. And when you look again at the Election Night coverage, the leading Republican intellectuals were wringing their hands about the GOP’s future as a national party. But then a handful of brilliant Republican strategists centered around the Republican State Leadership Committee hit on a plan: They recognized that 2010 was a “zero year,” and that zero years reverberate through the rest of the decade because that’s when every Congressional district and state legislative district gets redrawn.

This is how the GOP rigged Congress: The secret plan that handcuffed Obama’s presidency, but backfired in Donald Trump

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/this_is_how_the_gop_rigged_congress_the_secret_pla n_that_handcuffed_obamas_presidency_but_backfired_ in_donald_trump/

They are the corrupt and shady party if you want to ask me! And, for a long time, they've used Fox News to brainwash America toward the right also.

Oboe
08-11-2016, 03:17 PM
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Truth Detector
08-12-2016, 06:39 AM
That's because the Republicans have rigged the House.

The power to draw these maps rests largely with state legislatures, and the GOP’s margins there have not been seen since before the Great Depression. There’s a reason why–a plan called REDMAP, as Daley explains in “Ratf**ked: The True Story Behind the Secret Plan to Steal America’s Democracy,” (https://www.amazon.com/Ratf-ked-Behind-Americas-Democracy/dp/1631491628/) published by W.W.Norton/Liveright this week. But as Daley writes, the Democrats aren’t just badly outnumbered, they are seemingly clueless about the basic nature of the battle they’re involved in, much less what to do about it. Unless that’s fixed—and fast—the Democrats will continue to be at least as broken as the Republicans, for as far as the eye can see.

You can trace gerrymandering back to the late 1700s, but the plan that the Republicans executed in 2010 and 2011 reinvented this game in a completely modern and transformative way. When Barack Obama was elected president in 2008, it was the fourth presidential election out of five in which the Democrats won the popular vote. They took 23 of 33 Senate seats and opened up a supermajority. They held the House. The future demographics looked scary. And when you look again at the Election Night coverage, the leading Republican intellectuals were wringing their hands about the GOP’s future as a national party. But then a handful of brilliant Republican strategists centered around the Republican State Leadership Committee hit on a plan: They recognized that 2010 was a “zero year,” and that zero years reverberate through the rest of the decade because that’s when every Congressional district and state legislative district gets redrawn.

This is how the GOP rigged Congress: The secret plan that handcuffed Obama’s presidency, but backfired in Donald Trump

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/this_is_how_the_gop_rigged_congress_the_secret_pla n_that_handcuffed_obamas_presidency_but_backfired_ in_donald_trump/

They are the corrupt and shady party if you want to ask me! And, for a long time, they've used Fox News to brainwash America toward the right also.

:rofl: