I believe this...

[AZ Jim]

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[Oboe]

As do most delusional libs.

[Crepitus]

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[Common]

But you all believe everything hillary says though :)

[Crepitus]

But you all believe everything hillary says though :)
Nope, can't stand her.

[Common]

wasnt talking to you

[zelmo1234]

AZ We have been through this again, and again.

You are going to have to fight this on Ideas. When Compared to Hillary's lying? Trump is the Pope.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/

She is the most Corrupt Candidate to ever Seek the office of the Presidency

[AZ Jim]

AZ We have been through this again, and again.

You are going to have to fight this on Ideas. When Compared to Hillary's lying? Trump is the Pope.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/

She is the most Corrupt Candidate to ever Seek the office of the PresidencyI get it. You are just joking. Trump has told more lies in the last three months than your next President.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

[Bethere]

I get it. You are just joking. Trump has told more lies in the last three months than your next President.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

Stand your ground!

[hanger4]

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This meme was debunked years ago. The lie shall be spread reguardless.

[Oboe]

Stand your ground!

Translation: Tell another lie soon!

[hanger4]

I get it. You are just joking. Trump has told more lies in the last three months than your next President.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

Yes, both are shamless liers. One lies about innocuous things and one lies to cover up a flippant, lackadaisical and incompetent attitude toward national security.

Your choice !!

[Oboe]

Yes, both are shamless liers. One lies about innocuous things and one lies to cover up a flippant, lackadaisical and incompetent attitude toward national security.

Your choice !!

I wish I could predict what lie one of them will respond with as a result of your message.

[Bo-4]

This meme was debunked years ago. The lie shall be spread reguardless.

One of the rare cases where you believe Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck huh?

:)

[Bo-4]

Nope, can't stand her.

Ditto .. they still haven't figured out that she has around 5 supporters here.

[Bo-4]

AZ We have been through this again, and again.

You are going to have to fight this on Ideas. When Compared to Hillary's lying? Trump is the Pope.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/

She is the most Corrupt Candidate to ever Seek the office of the Presidency

Nah .. not even close

http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Campaign-2016/politifact-trump-clinton.jpg

[hanger4]

One of the rare cases where you believe Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck huh?

:)

Oh yeah, I forgot, People mag was lying when they said they had no record of a Trump interview with those quotes.

Geebus Bo-4 get a clue.

[Oboe]

Nah .. not even close

http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Campaign-2016/politifact-trump-clinton.jpg

http://awesomeshit.ninja/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/abraham-lincoln-quote-internet-hoax-fake.jpg

[Bo-4]

-

The Internet was around in Lincoln's time?

Who knew?

:rofl:

[debbietoo]

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How can any voter believe him when he flip flops his positions whenever he slips in the polls?

[AZ Jim]

How can any voter believe him when he flip flops his positions whenever he slips in the polls? They know he is a lyin crook but it's party first, America second.

[DGUtley]

How can any voter believe him when he flip flops his positions whenever he slips in the polls?

How can any voter believe her when she's a liar, a hypocrite and changes her accent depending on the audience? Just asking. Do you believe her, Debbie?

[AZ Jim]

How can any voter believe her when she's a liar, a hypocrite and changes her accent depending on the audience? Just asking. Do you believe her, Debbie? Did you read the fact finders chart that shows she is hardly lying and Trump is all lies? Go to the bottom of that chart and it outlines specific lies by both, but you don't want to know, you prefer using your blinders.

[MisterVeritis]

They know he is a lyin crook but it's party first, America second.
Irony.

[Crepitus]

One of the rare cases where you believe Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck huh?

:)


Oh yeah, I forgot, People mag was lying when they said they had no record of a Trump interview with those quotes.

Geebus Bo-4 get a clue.
He does have a pretty good point, a whole lot of you conservative types are awful quick to say how places like snopes are wrong when they are disproving your chain emails and such.

[Tahuyaman]

AZ Jim is rapidly becoming the most delusional partisan hack here.

[AZ Jim]

@AZ Jim (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1901) is rapidly becoming the most delusional partisan hack here.You are the kind of idiot that also believes in the tooth fairy too.

[Tahuyaman]

How can any voter believe him when he flip flops his positions whenever he slips in the polls?


Holy shit........ You must be kidding.

[Crepitus]

Holy shit........ You must be kidding.
Noooo....... pretty well demonstrated fact. Why would you think she was kidding?

[Tahuyaman]

@AZ Jim (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1901) is rapidly becoming the most delusional partisan hack here.


You are the kind of idiot that also believes in the tooth fairy too.

That's quite pathetic. Even for a senile old dude.

[Tahuyaman]

Noooo....... pretty well demonstrated fact. Why would you think she was kidding?

Anyone who who actually believes that Mrs. Clinton tells the truth 70+% of the time must be joking.

[Tahuyaman]

They know he is a lyin crook but it's party first, America second.


Irony.

Actually, both of the major party candidates have exposed who the party hacks are. Neither one is a good choice to lead the nation.

[Crepitus]

Anyone who who actually believes that Mrs. Clinton tells the truth 70+% of the time must be joking.
Deflection. What she was saying was Trump changes his positions a lot.

[hanger4]

He does have a pretty good point, a whole lot of you conservative types are awful quick to say how places like snopes are wrong when they are disproving your chain emails and such.

What point ?? Bo-4 listed Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck, I didn't.

[Crepitus]

One of the rare cases where you believe Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck huh?

:)


What point ?? Bo-4 listed Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck, I didn't.
I give up. You aren't doing anything but deflecting. Let me know when you wanna have an actual conversation.

[Tahuyaman]

Deflection. What she was saying was Trump changes his positions a lot.

He does? He hasn't been in politics long enough to communicate his positions in the first place.

[hanger4]

I give up. You aren't doing anything but deflecting. Let me know when you wanna have an actual conversation.

Not deflecting anything, People Magazine debunked the meme years ago. Bo-4 brought up Snopes, Politifact and FactCheck, this was deflection from his posted meme lie.

Memes are fine unless they're based on a lie, then they're just that, a lie.

[Crepitus]

He does? He hasn't been in politics long enough to communicate his positions in the first place.
Really? He ran for president 16 years ago, I think that's long enough to get your positions solidified don't you?

[Tahuyaman]

Really? He ran for president 16 years ago, I think that's long enough to get your positions solidified don't you?


Lol......

[Cigar]

But you all believe everything hillary says though :)

Nope, but I trust her more than tRump

[Crepitus]

Lol......
Yup, I find it amusing that he's been flip-flopping for the last 16 years too.

[AZ Jim]

Lol......Why is that fact funny, Dummy?

[Tahuyaman]

Why is that fact funny, Dummy?

you calling anyone a dummy is hilarious.

[Tahuyaman]

Yup, I find it amusing that he's been flip-flopping for the last 16 years too.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I have found him to be pretty consistent during his campaign.

[Crepitus]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I have found him to be pretty consistent during his campaign.
I'm not either, and I have not.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm not either, and I have not.


Where hasn't he been consistent during his campaign?

[Crepitus]

Where hasn't he been consistent during his campaign?
LMAO! where has he?

[Tahuyaman]

LMAO! where has he?


Thats not a sufficient answer to my question.

[del]

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

[Crepitus]

Thats not a sufficient answer to my question.
The list is FAR too long to type. Go to this link.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

[hanger4]

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

I quit reading at "it was a full and complete ban on all Muslims".

An out of context meme, right Crepitus ??

[Crepitus]

I quit reading at "it was a full and complete ban on all Muslims".

An out of context meme, right Crepitus ??
It's not out of context, you just choose to interpret it in the best light possible and through some rose colored glasses.

[Tahuyaman]

So, you yourself have no idea where he has supposedly been inconsistent?

[Tahuyaman]

The liberals are taking their marching orders from the Clinton cheerleaders in the mainstream media.

[hanger4]

It's not out of context, you just choose to interpret it in the best light possible and through some rose colored glasses.

Been through this already Crepitus.

QUOTE: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population."

If you can't see "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" as changing the context of "ban all Muslims" then there's little hope left for you.

I can see through my rose colored glasses, it's apparent you can't see through your blinders.

[Crepitus]

Been through this already Crepitus.

QUOTE: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population."

If you can't see "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" as changing the context of "ban all Muslims" then there's little hope left for you.

I can see through my rose colored glasses, it's apparent you can't see through your blinders.

And you are looking right past "total and complete shutdown".

[del]

the gift that keeps on giving

[Tahuyaman]

And you keep on adding nothing......

[hanger4]

And you are looking right past "total and complete shutdown".

If you can't see "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" as changing the context of "ban all Muslims" then there's little hope left for you.

Take the blinders off.

[hanger4]

the gift that keeps on giving

When will you decide to give ?? I mean other than your non topic snark ??

[del]

When will you decide to give ?? I mean other than your non topic snark ??

come back tomorrow

[hanger4]

come back tomorrow

It's tomorrow !!

And just in case you've forgotten;

Substance: the quality of being meaningful, useful, or important.

[Crepitus]

It's tomorrow !!

And just in case you've forgotten;

Substance: the quality of being meaningful, useful, or important.
Why don't you demonstrate for us?

Here lately all I've seen from you is "out of context!!" and "he didn't say that!" or "did you read the whole quote?".

[hanger4]

Why don't you demonstrate for us?

Here lately all I've seen from you is "out of context!!" and "he didn't say that!" or "did you read the whole quote?".

All of which have been substantive to the topic at hand.

[Crepitus]

All of which have been substantive to the topic at hand.
Not really, for reasons I've already stated.

[hanger4]

Not really, for reasons I've already stated.

Your reason was refuted/debunked via "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"

Editing his statement to fit your narrative is disingenuous on your behalf.

[Truth Detector]

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[Truth Detector]

Nope, can't stand her.

I thought you stated on another thread you were voting for her? Or was it Jill Stein?

[Truth Detector]

Oh yeah, I forgot, People mag was lying when they said they had no record of a Trump interview with those quotes.

Geebus Bo-4 get a clue.

He can't even buy one; don't expect him to get one soon. :rofl:

[Truth Detector]

How can any voter believe him when he flip flops his positions whenever he slips in the polls?

No one has flipped or flopped more than Dear Leader and Hillary....well, perhaps John Kerry. ;)

[Truth Detector]

They know he is a lyin crook but it's party first, America second.

Says the person supporting one. Irony. :rofl:

[Truth Detector]

Did you read the fact finders chart that shows she is hardly lying and Trump is all lies? Go to the bottom of that chart and it outlines specific lies by both, but you don't want to know, you prefer using your blinders.

:rofl:

Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7syNUYAXHwo

[Truth Detector]

AZ Jim is rapidly becoming the most delusional partisan hack here.

BECOMING???? :rofl:

[Truth Detector]

Nope, but I trust her more than tRump

That's not true; people like you don't give a schit if politicians lie to their faces as long as they have a "D" next to their name. :biglaugh:

[Truth Detector]

It's not out of context, you just choose to interpret it in the best light possible and through some rose colored glasses.


Been through this already Crepitus.

QUOTE: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population."

If you can't see "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" as changing the context of "ban all Muslims" then there's little hope left for you.

I can see through my rose colored glasses, it's apparent you can't see through your blinders.


And you are looking right past "total and complete shutdown".


If you can't see "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" as changing the context of "ban all Muslims" then there's little hope left for you.

Take the blinders off.


All of which have been substantive to the topic at hand.


Not really, for reasons I've already stated.


Your reason was refuted/debunked via "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"

Editing his statement to fit your narrative is disingenuous on your behalf.

This exchange with Crepitus is the perfect illustration by what is meant by the never ending circle of stupidity one tends to deal with when arguing with low information leftists; any questions?

[Crepitus]

Your reason was refuted/debunked via "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"

Editing his statement to fit your narrative is disingenuous on your behalf.
And ignoring "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" is disingenuous on yours.

[Crepitus]

I thought you stated on another thread you were voting for her? Or was it Jill Stein?
Stein, or maybe writing in "none of the above".

[Crepitus]

This exchange with Crepitus is the perfect illustration by what is meant by the never ending circle of stupidity one tends to deal with when arguing with low information leftists; any questions?
Ooh Ooh! I got a question!

Are you really that stupid or do you just play one on the internet?

[Truth Detector]

Stein, or maybe writing in "none of the above".

Jill Stein??? :rofl: And you claim that Trump is a Fascist??? :rofl:

[Truth Detector]

Ooh Ooh! I got a question!

Are you really that stupid or do you just play one on the internet?

Irony; you're not intelligent enough to even comprehend it. :rofl:

[Truth Detector]

And ignoring "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" is disingenuous on yours.

"until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"

I am hoping that posting it in crayon would help you comprehend reality. :rofl:

[Crepitus]

Jill Stein??? :rofl: And you claim that Trump is a Fascist??? :rofl:
Umm...... nooooo????? I never said trump was a fascist. I said he was a bigoted moron who was no smarter than you but never said anything about fascists.

[Crepitus]

Irony; you're not intelligent enough to even comprehend it. :rofl:
Better look up that definition my friend, you're making a fool of yourself again.

[hanger4]

And ignoring "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" is disingenuous on yours.

You know good and well I didn't ignore it, hell, I posted it umpteen times to illustrate your ignorance of the rest of the sentence. "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

Do you even know what "context: means ?? Allow me to help;

Context: the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect.

[MisterVeritis]

And ignoring "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" is disingenuous on yours.
Do you have some reason why you want Muslims and the Islamofascists who come with them, in the US?

[Crepitus]

"until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"

I am hoping that posting it in crayon would help you comprehend reality. :rofl:
Well, for starters, too many of our countries representatives are conservatives for them to ever "figure out whats going on". Then what happens when/if they do? You guys are looking at this thing with your eyes closed.

[hanger4]

Stein, or maybe writing in "none of the above".

Not Stein, but none of the above is an awsome choice.

[Tahuyaman]

@AZ Jim (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1901) is rapidly becoming the most delusional partisan hack here



BECOMING???? :rofl:

Well, there's still TrueBlue, maineman, markIII and now debbietoo. Those four are completely partisan through and through. They'd vote for virtually anyone as long as there is a D after their name.

[hanger4]

Well, for starters, too many of our countries representatives are conservatives for them to ever "figure out whats going on". Then what happens when/if they do? You guys are looking at this thing with your eyes closed.

Seems you've finally opened your eyes, Trumps statement is intentionally taken out of context to support a narrative.

Now you seem to be saying "Well, for starters, too many of our countries representatives are conservatives for them to ever "figure out whats going on".

Oh wait, you are saying that.

[Crepitus]

Seems you've finally opened your eyes, Trumps statement is intentionally taken out of context to support a narrative.

Now you seem to be saying "Well, for starters, too many of our countries representatives are conservatives for them to ever "figure out whats going on".

Oh wait, you are saying that.
No it's not. Just like the second amendment guys "doing something" about clinton anyone with their eyes open can see where this is really going. I don't understand why so many people feel the need to cover for this guy though.

[DGUtley]

Did you read the fact finders chart that shows she is hardly lying and Trump is all lies? Go to the bottom of that chart and it outlines specific lies by both, but you don't want to know, you prefer using your blinders.

I've read the charts, I've seen all of the demos both by the conservative and liberal papers. Typically, when I've read those things, they look at nuances. When I say she lies, I'm talking about:

1. The Emails
2. Benghazi
3. The youtube video

Those are undisputed. We all know it. You know it. I know it. You prefer using your blinders.

[AZ Jim]

I've read the charts, I've seen all of the demos both by the conservative and liberal papers. Typically, when I've read those things, they look at nuances. When I say she lies, I'm talking about:

1. The Emails
2. Benghazi
3. The youtube video

Those are undisputed. We all know it. You know it. I know it. You prefer using your blinders.You speak for "everyone"? My question is, since you know so much about it why wasn't she prosecuted and let's not hear any "Obama" saved her. Facts matter, your opinion does not.

[MisterVeritis]

You speak for "everyone"? My question is, since you know so much about it why wasn't she prosecuted and let's not hear any "Obama" saved her. Facts matter, your opinion does not.
Corrupt and Cowardly Comey must answer for his crime against the American people. Congress needs to hold him an AG Lynch accountable. Both should be impeached and removed from their positions.

[kcvet]

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[hanger4]

No it's not. Just like the second amendment guys "doing something" about clinton anyone with their eyes open can see where this is really going. I don't understand why so many people feel the need to cover for this guy though.

So many people feel the need to cover for this guy because of the intentional mischaracterisation and intentionally quoting Trump out of context as you've been doing by quoting a half sentence.

There's plenty of Trump words or policy dissemi ations to fuel discussion without out right lies or lying by omission.

[DGUtley]

You speak for "everyone"? My question is, since you know so much about it why wasn't she prosecuted and let's not hear any "Obama" saved her. Facts matter, your opinion does not.

I don't speak for "everyone", that's true, but if you've been following the truthfulness indexes, yes, I speak for everyone here on these issues. If you don't think she lied about those 3 items, then you've been living on another planet. I can't explain why she wasn't prosecuted. She should've been. I've been practicing law for 29 years and I've seen people prosecuted for much less. I researched and am familiar with the standard cited by Comey. She should've been prosecuted and let the chips fall where they may. She wasn't. Why, draw your own conclusions, I drew mine.

[AZ Jim]

I don't speak for "everyone", that's true, but if you've been following the truthfulness indexes, yes, I speak for everyone here on these issues. If you don't think she lied about those 3 items, then you've been living on another planet. I can't explain why she wasn't prosecuted. She should've been. I've been practicing law for 29 years and I've seen people prosecuted for much less. I researched and am familiar with the standard cited by Comey. She should've been prosecuted and let the chips fall where they may. She wasn't. Why, draw your own conclusions, I drew mine.No offense but should I need a lawyer, I pray I would get one more knowledgeable and less partial than you.

[Crepitus]

So many people feel the need to cover for this guy because of the intentional mischaracterisation and intentionally quoting Trump out of context as you've been doing by quoting a half sentence.

There's plenty of Trump words or policy dissemi ations to fuel discussion without out right lies or lying by omission.

It's not out of context.