The GOP’s Chances Of Holding The Senate Are Following Trump Downhill

[debbietoo]

Democrats need to gain a net of four or five seats to win control of the Senate, depending on whether Hillary Clinton or Trump wins the presidency.1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-chances-of-holding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/#fn-1) Before the conventions, polling in the 10 states whose Senate seats were most likely to flip (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-start-dragging-gop-senate-candidates-down-with-him/) between parties this November showed a pretty close race. Democratic candidates led in Illinois and Wisconsin, both of which would be pickups for their party. The Republican candidate was leading in Nevada (a seat that Democrats currently control). I didn’t include Indiana in my pre-convention analysis because of Democrat Evan Bayh’s late entrance into the race — we had just one partisan poll (http://www.dscc.org/press-release/new-poll-finds-evan-bayh-leading-congressman-todd-young-21-points-potential-grow-support/) that included Bayh — but Democratic chances seemed good (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/democrats-could-put-indiana-senate-seat-in-play-in-2016-especially-if-evan-bayh-runs/) there (it would be another Democratic pickup). And Republicans led in the other competitive Senate races, all seats the GOP currently holds, so Democrats looked like they could pick up a net of two seats if everything stayed as it was and the polling leader in each state went on to win.

Democrats now lead in enough states to take back the Senate — so long as Clinton holds on to her large lead. If the favorites in the polls win, the Democrats would flip and pick up the seats in Illinois, Indiana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Republicans would pick up Nevada and hold onto Florida, North Carolina and Ohio. Of course, many of these races are close, and there’s plenty of time before Election Day. The fight for the Senate isn’t over by a long shot. Republicans and Trump — or Republicans without Trump — could rebound.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-chances-of-holding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/

It will truly be a step forward for Americans if democrats can win back the senate. No more blocking legislation for the middle class by conservatives!:applause:

[Adelaide]

This was one of the risks with having Trump as the nominee.

[exploited]

Yeah, this election is so far an utter disaster for the Republican Party. It isn't too late to turn it around, but based on the response to righteous criticism I've seen here, I don't think that will happen.

[nathanbforrest45]

She gets funnier and funnier doesn't she??

[Tahuyaman]

This was one of the risks with having Trump as the nominee.

It's also the risk of having a large number of seats up for reelection. If Hillary Clinton wins the election, which she will, the mid terms will be tough on Democrats.

Clearly the vast majority of Americans believe we are on the wrong path. Hillary Clinton will keep us on the current path. Democrats will be supportive of that and they will be held accountable during the mid term elections.

[Jets]

Democrats need to gain a net of four or five seats to win control of the Senate, depending on whether Hillary Clinton or Trump wins the presidency.1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-chances-of-holding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/#fn-1) Before the conventions, polling in the 10 states whose Senate seats were most likely to flip (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-start-dragging-gop-senate-candidates-down-with-him/) between parties this November showed a pretty close race. Democratic candidates led in Illinois and Wisconsin, both of which would be pickups for their party. The Republican candidate was leading in Nevada (a seat that Democrats currently control). I didn’t include Indiana in my pre-convention analysis because of Democrat Evan Bayh’s late entrance into the race — we had just one partisan poll (http://www.dscc.org/press-release/new-poll-finds-evan-bayh-leading-congressman-todd-young-21-points-potential-grow-support/) that included Bayh — but Democratic chances seemed good (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/democrats-could-put-indiana-senate-seat-in-play-in-2016-especially-if-evan-bayh-runs/) there (it would be another Democratic pickup). And Republicans led in the other competitive Senate races, all seats the GOP currently holds, so Democrats looked like they could pick up a net of two seats if everything stayed as it was and the polling leader in each state went on to win.

Democrats now lead in enough states to take back the Senate — so long as Clinton holds on to her large lead. If the favorites in the polls win, the Democrats would flip and pick up the seats in Illinois, Indiana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Republicans would pick up Nevada and hold onto Florida, North Carolina and Ohio. Of course, many of these races are close, and there’s plenty of time before Election Day. The fight for the Senate isn’t over by a long shot. Republicans and Trump — or Republicans without Trump — could rebound.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-chances-of-holding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/

It will truly be a step forward for Americans if democrats can win back the senate. No more blocking legislation for the middle class by conservatives!:applause:


If the GOP keep the House and the Democrats take the Senate, how would there be "no blocking legislation for the middle class by conservatives"?

Doesn't the HoR generally introduce the legislation?

[Tahuyaman]

If the GOP keep the House and the Democrats take the Senate, how would there be "no blocking legislation for the middle class by conservatives"?

Doesn't the HoR generally introduce the legislation?

Legislation starts in the House of Representatives.

[Bethere]

Democrats need to gain a net of four or five seats to win control of the Senate, depending on whether Hillary Clinton or Trump wins the presidency.1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-chances-of-holding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/#fn-1) Before the conventions, polling in the 10 states whose Senate seats were most likely to flip (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-start-dragging-gop-senate-candidates-down-with-him/) between parties this November showed a pretty close race. Democratic candidates led in Illinois and Wisconsin, both of which would be pickups for their party. The Republican candidate was leading in Nevada (a seat that Democrats currently control). I didn’t include Indiana in my pre-convention analysis because of Democrat Evan Bayh’s late entrance into the race — we had just one partisan poll (http://www.dscc.org/press-release/new-poll-finds-evan-bayh-leading-congressman-todd-young-21-points-potential-grow-support/) that included Bayh — but Democratic chances seemed good (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/democrats-could-put-indiana-senate-seat-in-play-in-2016-especially-if-evan-bayh-runs/) there (it would be another Democratic pickup). And Republicans led in the other competitive Senate races, all seats the GOP currently holds, so Democrats looked like they could pick up a net of two seats if everything stayed as it was and the polling leader in each state went on to win.

Democrats now lead in enough states to take back the Senate — so long as Clinton holds on to her large lead. If the favorites in the polls win, the Democrats would flip and pick up the seats in Illinois, Indiana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Republicans would pick up Nevada and hold onto Florida, North Carolina and Ohio. Of course, many of these races are close, and there’s plenty of time before Election Day. The fight for the Senate isn’t over by a long shot. Republicans and Trump — or Republicans without Trump — could rebound.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-chances-of-holding-the-senate-are-following-trump-downhill/

It will truly be a step forward for Americans if democrats can win back the senate. No more blocking legislation for the middle class by conservatives!:applause:

Good times!

[Bethere]

Legislation starts in the House of Representatives.

False!

[Tahuyaman]

False!


You need a civics lesson.

[Bethere]

You need a civics lesson.

Really?

Obamacare started in the Senate.

Your turn.

[TrueBlue]

This was one of the risks with having Trump as the nominee.
I'm sure you meant to say it is Still One Of the Risks.

[Tahuyaman]

Really?

Obamacare started in the Senate.

Your turn.


And that was one of the reasons it should have been declared unconstitutional.

It's pretty much much common knowledge that legislations is required to originate in the House of Representatives then be passed on to the Senate.

Is this really news to you?

[MisterVeritis]

Really?

Obamacare started in the Senate.

Your turn.
Article 1 Section 7.

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

Obama care is unconstitutional.

[Bethere]

Article 1 Section 7.

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

Obama care is unconstitutional.

1. It wasn't.
2. Nor does the origination clause say, "all bills."

[Bethere]

And that was one of the reasons it should have been declared unconstitutional.

It's pretty much much common knowledge that legislations is required to originate in the House of Representatives then be passed on to the Senate.

Is this really news to you?

I bet you are too weenie to apologize.

[Tahuyaman]

1. It wasn't.
2. Nor does the origination clause say, "all bills."

you won't even acknowledge the facts when they are spoon fed to you.

[Tahuyaman]

I bet you are too weenie to apologize.


I apologize for being right and making you look uninformed and ignorant.

[MisterVeritis]

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

1. It wasn't.
2. Nor does the origination clause say, "all bills."
All bills for raising revenues...obamacare is a tax. It is unconstitutional.

[Bethere]

you won't even acknowledge the facts when they are spoon fed to you.

Where does the origination clause say all bills?

What happened to the lawsuit that challenged obamacare on the origination clause?

Are you too weenie to apologize?

[Bethere]

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;

All bills for raising revenues...it is a tax. It is unconstitutional.


All bills raising revenue is hardly all bills.

What happened to the lawsuit that challenged obamacare on the origination clause?

A clue:

Supreme Court declines to hear new ObamaCare challenge | TheHill

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266280-supreme-court-declines-to-hear-new-obamacare-challenge

[Bethere]

I apologize for being right and making you look uninformed and ignorant.Introduced in the SenateEdit (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_bills_in_the_113th_United_ States_Congress&action=edit&section=6)BillsEdit (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_bills_in_the_113th_United_ States_Congress&action=edit&section=7)

Senate number
Date of introduction
Short title
Description


S. 23 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/23)
January 22, 2013
Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore Conservation and Recreation Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Bear_Dunes_National_Lakeshore_Conservatio n_and_Recreation_Act_(S._23;_113th_Congress))
To designate as wilderness certain land and inland water within the Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore in the State of Michigan, and for other purposes.


S. 42 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/42)
January 22, 2013
Criminal Antitrust Anti-Retaliation Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Antitrust_Anti-Retaliation_Act_of_2013_(S._42;_113th_Congress))
To provide anti-retaliation protections for antitrustwhistleblowers (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower).


S. 47 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/47)
January 22, 2013
Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Reauthorization_Act_of_2013 )
To reauthorize theViolence Against Women Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Act) of 1994.


S. 130 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/130)
January 24, 2013
Powell Shooting Range Land Conveyance Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Shooting_Range_Land_Conveyance_Act)
To require the Secretary of the Interior to convey certain Federal land to the Powell Recreation District in the State of Wyoming.


S. 150 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/150)
January 24, 2013
Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Weapons_Ban_of_2013)
To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.


S. 157 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/157)
January 28, 2013
Denali National Park Improvement Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali_National_Park_Improvement_Act)
To provide for certain improvements to the Denali National Park and Preserve (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali_National_Park_and_Preserve) in the State of Alaska (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska), and for other purposes.


S. 252 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/252)
February 7, 2013
PREEMIE Reauthorization Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PREEMIE_Reauthorization_Act_(S._252;_113th_Congres s))
To reduce preterm labor and delivery and the risk of pregnancy-related deaths and complications due to pregnancy, and to reduce infant mortality (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_mortality) caused by prematurity (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterm_birth).


S. 256 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/256)
February 7, 2013
(No short title)
To amend Public Law 93–435 with respect to the Northern Mariana Islands, providing parity with Guam, the Virgin Islands, and American Samoa (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_amend_Public_Law_93–435_with_respect_to_the_Nor thern_Mariana_Islands,_providing_parity_with_Guam, _the_Virgin_Islands,_and_American_Samoa_(S._256;_1 13th_Congress))


S. 287 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/287)
February 12, 2013
(No short title)
To amend title 38, United States Code, to expand the definition of homeless veteran for purposes of benefits under the laws administered by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_amend_title_38,_United_States_Code,_to_expand_t he_definition_of_homeless_veteran_for_purposes_of_ benefits_under_the_laws_administered_by_the_Secret ary_of_Veterans_Affairs_(S._287;_113th_Congress)), and for other purposes.


S. 296 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/296)
February 13, 2013
Uniting American Families Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniting_American_Families_Act_of_2013)
To amend theImmigration and Nationality Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1952) to eliminate discrimination in the immigration laws by permitting permanent partners of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents to obtain lawful permanent resident status in the same manner as spouses of citizens and lawful permanent residents and to penalize immigration fraud in connection with permanent partnerships.


S. 304 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/304)
February 13, 2013
Natchez Trace Parkway Land Conveyance Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natchez_Trace_Parkway_Land_Conveyance_Act_of_2013)
To direct the Secretary of the Interior to convey to the State of Mississippi two parcels of surplus land within the boundary of theNatchez Trace Parkway (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natchez_Trace_Parkway), and for other purposes.


S. 309 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/309)
February 13, 2013
(No short title)
A bill to award aCongressional Gold Medal (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Gold_Medal) to theWorld War II (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II)members of theCivil Air Patrol (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Air_Patrol).


S. 330 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/330)
February 14, 2013
HIV Organ Policy Equity Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_Organ_Policy_Equity_Act_(S._330;_113th_Congres s))
To amend thePublic Health Service Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Health_Service_Act) to establish safeguards and standards of quality for research andtransplantation of organs (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_donation) infected with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS).


S. 336 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/336)
February 14, 2013
Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketplace_Fairness_Act_of_2013)
To restore States' sovereign rights to enforce State and local sales and use tax laws, and for other purposes.


S. 376 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/376)
February 25, 2013
Drought Information Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_Information_Act_of_2013_(S._376;_113th_Con gress))
To reauthorize theNational Integrated Drought Information System (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Integrated_Drought_Information_System), and for other purposes.


S. 404 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/404)
February 28, 2013
Green Mountain Lookout Heritage Protection Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mountain_Lookout_Heritage_Protection_Act)
To preserve the Green Mountain Lookout in the Glacier Peak Wilderness of the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest.


S. 459 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/459)
March 5, 2013
Minuteman Missile National Historic Site Boundary Modification Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuteman_Missile_National_Historic_Site_Boundary_ Modification_Act)
To modify the boundary of theMinuteman Missile National Historic Site (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuteman_Missile_National_Historic_Site) in the State of South Dakota (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota), and for other purposes.


S. 462 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/462)
March 4, 2013
United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of 2013 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Israel_Strategic_Partnership_Act_of_2013)
To strengthen the strategic alliance between the United States and Israel (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_States_relations).


S. 517 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/517)
March 11, 2013
Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlocking_Consumer_Choice_and_Wireless_Competition _Act_(S._517;_113th_Congress))

[Bethere]

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[Tahuyaman]

Down goes Tahuyaman!
Lol......

[Bethere]

Down goes Tahuyaman!


Lol......
Good times!

[MisterVeritis]

All bills raising revenue is hardly all bills.

What happened to the lawsuit that challenged obamacare on the origination clause?

A clue:

Supreme Court declines to hear new ObamaCare challenge | TheHill

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/266280-supreme-court-declines-to-hear-new-obamacare-challenge


If Obama Care is a tax then is should have originated in the house as a tax bill. I cannot help that you do not like Article 1 Section 7.

The Supreme Court is just as corrupt as the rest of the Federal Government. We need an Article V convention of states to fix this.

[Subdermal]

Good times!

You shouldn't say 'good times' when posting as Doc. Just a bit too obvious.

[Tahuyaman]

If Obama Care is a tax then is should have originated in the house as a tax bill. I cannot help that you do not like Article 1 Section 7.

The Supreme Court is just as corrupt as the rest of the Federal Government. We need an Article V convention of states to fix this.

The administration did argue that is is a tax after they claimed it wasn't before it was passed.

I wouldn't say that the Supreme Court is corrupt. They have however been compromised by pure partisanship. Most of the justices have taken on the mind-set that modern political correctness and partisan goals take priority over the US Constitution. This is a dangerous mind-set.

But yes, the problem needs to be fixed and it may take extraordinary actions to make that happen.

[MisterVeritis]

The administration did argue that is is a tax after they claimed it wasn't before it was passed.

I wouldn't say that the Supreme Court is corrupt. They have however been compromised by pure partisanship. Most of the justices have taken on the mind-set that modern political correctness and partisan goals take priority over the US Constitution. This is a dangerous mind-set.

But yes, the problem needs to be fixed and it may take extraordinary actions to make that happen.
That asshole Roberts rewrote the law from the bench. He is corrupt.

[Tahuyaman]

That $#@! Roberts rewrote the law from the bench. He is corrupt.

I don't believe he got anything in return for doing that. I don't believe someone got to him. He did it because he's been conditioned over time to believe government knows what's best for everyone.

[Bethere]

You shouldn't say 'good times' when posting as Doc. Just a bit too obvious.

I'd be proud, and a hell of a lot richer, to be doc.

[del]

good times!

[Bethere]

good times!

"What an asshat!"--del.

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[Bethere]

I don't believe he got anything in return for doing that. I don't believe someone got to him. He did it because he's been conditioned over time to believe government knows what's best for everyone.

He did it because he swore under oath while testifying before the Senate judiciary committee that he believed in stare decicis.

He did it because he is a Republican and he doesn't think that the court should over rule the will of Congress if at all possible.

He did it because he is a Christian who knows that covering tens of millions of God's children was cool with da man.

He did it because Boehner flat out asked the Senate to start the process.

And I suspect he did it because he didn't want to be remembered as the guy who destroyed the ACA.

[maineman]

It's also the risk of having a large number of seats up for reelection. If Hillary Clinton wins the election, which she will, the mid terms will be tough on Democrats.

Clearly the vast majority of Americans believe we are on the wrong path. Hillary Clinton will keep us on the current path. Democrats will be supportive of that and they will be held accountable during the mid term elections.

not if she can get some shit done during the first two years.... I think that simply picking liberal SCOTUS justices to replace long dead Scalia, Thomas, Ginsberg and Kennedy will solidify her standing with the electorate.

[maineman]

I don't believe he got anything in return for doing that. I don't believe someone got to him. He did it because he's been conditioned over time to believe government knows what's best for everyone.
and you would have been such a much wiser choice, eh sarge?

[maineman]

not if she can get some shit done during the first two years.... I think that simply picking liberal SCOTUS justices to replace long dead Scalia, Thomas, Ginsberg and Kennedy will solidify her standing with the electorate.

and no... she's not coming after you guns.

[Bethere]

not if she can get some $#@! done during the first two years.... I think that simply picking liberal SCOTUS justices to replace long dead Scalia, Thomas, Ginsberg and Kennedy will solidify her standing with the electorate.

I think the Senate is in the bag.

[zelmo1234]

Really?

Obamacare started in the Senate.

Your turn.

Correct, and when the Court made it a tax, it should have been unconstitutional because it started in the senate.

[maineman]

Really?

Obamacare started in the Senate.

Your turn.

I think, actually, that Obamacare started as a stripped down version of a house bill.

[Subdermal]

and no... she's not coming after you guns.

Sure. Stop lying. We all know what they - and you - want.


https://youtu.be/6nlhQafsx3o

[maineman]

nobody better try to come after MY guns.

[Tahuyaman]

not if she can get some $#@! done during the first two years.... I think that simply picking liberal SCOTUS justices to replace long dead Scalia, Thomas, Ginsberg and Kennedy will solidify her standing with the electorate.


and you would have been such a much wiser choice, eh sarge?



Why do you keep following me around?

[debbietoo]

Yeah, this election is so far an utter disaster for the Republican Party. It isn't too late to turn it around, but based on the response to righteous criticism I've seen here, I don't think that will happen.

I hope not. Trump reminds me of a dictator, similar to Hitler. Even more so since he hired the likes of Bannon.

[maineman]

just read an article on Yahoo where GOP senators are considering confirming Garland in the lame duck session after Hillary wins. When she does, I think that Obama pulls the nomination the next day.

[debbietoo]

Who's Garland? Link?

[maineman]

Who's Garland? Link?

Obama's nominee to replace Scalia that McConnell refuses to give a hearing to.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/df4d96df-ffa5-3c68-831e-eb18cb53a275/as-trump-falters%2C-gop.html

[Jets]

To go back to the opening post, gridlock will not stop in Congress. Let's look at the various scenarios:

Democrat Senate and GOP HoR equal gridlock. Unless deals are made the tabling of bills will continue.

GOP Senate and Democrat HoR- see above.

Democrat Congress(Both houses)-

The reality is that districts do not change. Elected democrats in conservative states and/or districts will not rubber stamp liberal themed legislation. If they do so, they risk being recalled and more than likely will be out within the next two years. Red State reps are more conservative regardless of the D or the R.

jmo

[debbietoo]

Obama's nominee to replace Scalia that McConnell refuses to give a hearing to.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/df4d96df-ffa5-3c68-831e-eb18cb53a275/as-trump-falters%2C-gop.html

Oh, I see. I've heard Scalia was a "bigot" and wielded the law in favor of the conservatives. Is it true that republicans, because of their majority, nominated and/or elected most of the Supreme Court Justices?

[nic34]

If Obama Care is a tax then is should have originated in the house as a tax bill. I cannot help that you do not like Article 1 Section 7.

The Supreme Court is just as corrupt as the rest of the Federal Government. We need an Article V convention of states to fix this.

A federal appeals court had rejected the (http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/07/appeals-court-rejects-new-test-of-health-care-mandate/) challenge, though, ruling that the Origination Clause did not affect ObamaCare because it was primarily about expanding health coverage, not raising revenue.

Don't worry, Clinton and the dem senate will fix the SCOTUS next year when they confirm Judge Garland.

[Captain Obvious]

I hope they lose control.

The best thing to happen for conservatism is a GOP collapse.

[nic34]

Sure. Stop lying. We all know what they - and you - want.


https://youtu.be/6nlhQafsx3o


So now delegates speak for actual candidates now?

And who in the hell does LIAR Ok'reef think he speaks for?