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Common
08-18-2016, 06:15 AM
Inmates made defective combat helmets for U.S. troops — and no one was prosecuted
Federal inmates made thousands of defective combat helmets for the U.S. military at a prison facility that was rife with problems, including the use of degraded armor and the submission of preselected helmets for inspection to make sure they would get approved, according to a newly released investigative report.
A Justice Department Inspector General summary report (https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/i1608.pdf) released Wednesday said faulty helmets were made by Federal Prison Industries (FPI), for both the Army and Marine Corps. The U.S. government-owned company operates under the trade name UNICOR and served as a subcontractor for ArmorSource, an Ohio company that was one of four defense firms to win an estimated $30 million contract in 2006 for the Army’s then-new Advanced Combat Helmet. Separately, ArmorSource won multimillion-dollar contracts for the Marine Corps Lightweight Helmet, which has a slightly different design.
The Army disclosed in 2010 that it was recalling 44,000 helmets (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/17/army.recalls.combat.helmet/), including some in use in Afghanistan, citing an open federal investigation into ArmorSource. Army officials said at the time that the recall was issued after the Justice Department informed them that there was evidence that some of their helmets were produced using unauthorized materials and practices that could reduce protection for U.S. troops in combat.
The Justice Department announced in March (https://oig.justice.gov/press/2016/2016-03-07.pdf) that it reached a $3 million false-claims settlement against ArmorSource, and noted that FPI was a subcontractor. The new report states that FPI made helmets that had unauthorized or degraded materials, expired paint and other deformities. For example, fragments of Kevlar and dust were used to fill parts of helmets. The serial numbers on some helmets also were either altered or changed, the report said.
The inspector general also cites the Defense Contract Management Agency, which was supposed to provide oversight for the military. Inspectors did not conduct reviews, lacked training and submitted false reports in which they said shipments of helmets had been tested, according to the IG report.
“At least in one instance an inspector certified the lots as being inspected over a fax machine,” the report said.
A Defense Department official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss specifics of the case, said the Pentagon was reviewing the findings for future action. The report said two investigations were conducted jointly involving the Justice Department Inspector General, the Army and the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, which carries out criminal probes for the Defense Department Inspector General.
Overall, 126,052 Army helmets were recalled, and monetary losses and costs to the government totaled nearly $19.1 million, according to the report. An initial shipment of Marine Corps helmets resulted in a quarantine of 23,000 and a halt to additional deliveries.
Federal prosecutors decided not to press charges against anyone involved, either at ArmorSource or at the FPI plant in Texas, the report said. Peter Carr, a Justice Department spokesman, said that as a matter of policy, the department does not provide an explanation for why charges haven’t been filed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/17/inmates-made-defective-combat-helmets-for-u-s-troops-and-no-one-was-prosecuted/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_checkpoint-helmets-720pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Mac-7
08-18-2016, 06:20 AM
Were the inmates black muslims unjustly put in prison for non violent drug dealing?

Crepitus
08-18-2016, 07:03 AM
Were the inmates black muslims unjustly put in prison for non violent drug dealing?
Gotta little drool on your chin there Mac.

Mac-7
08-18-2016, 07:45 AM
Gotta little drool on your chin there Mac.

According to the droolings of some liberals that description fits up to 80% of the prison population.

Crepitus
08-18-2016, 08:39 AM
According to the droolings of some liberals that description fits up to 80% of the prison population.
Which has exactly what to do with the topic at hand?

Mac-7
08-18-2016, 08:48 AM
Which has exactly what to do with the topic at hand?

Motivation.

are the inmates merely stupid or are they practicing black muslim jihad from behind bars?

Crepitus
08-18-2016, 08:54 AM
Motivation.

are the inmates merely stupid or are they practicing black muslim jihad from behind bars?
So, nothing except the usual idiocy.

nathanbforrest45
08-18-2016, 09:53 AM
So, nothing except the usual idiocy.
Why is that not a valid question?

Crepitus
08-18-2016, 09:55 AM
Why is that not a valid question?
So, Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

nathanbforrest45
08-18-2016, 10:07 AM
So, Have you stopped beating your wife yet?


In other words you have no answer, you just wish to show how stupid you are.

Crepitus
08-18-2016, 10:09 AM
In other words you have no answer, you just wish to show how stupid you are.
No, That's an example of the same kinda question.

nathanbforrest45
08-18-2016, 10:15 AM
No, That's an example of the same kinda question.

No it is not, not to anyone with any thinking ability at all.

The question is were the prisoners simply incompetent or did they deliberately sabotage the armor?

nathanbforrest45
08-18-2016, 10:16 AM
By the way, I know you won't answer this question because you don't believe it could possibly be anyone's fault other than the evil corporation. We understand your bias.

Crepitus
08-18-2016, 10:43 AM
No it is not, not to anyone with any thinking ability at all.

The question is were the prisoners simply incompetent or did they deliberately sabotage the armor?
Well that's odd because the question asked was this:


Were the inmates black muslims unjustly put in prison for non violent drug dealing?

Adelaide
08-18-2016, 10:57 AM
This can't be surprising to anyone; they're in prison and get paid like $0.10/hr. I'd make crappy helmets, too and I guarantee the prison isn't spending any extra money to make sure it is done properly.

Prisons should not be making gear that will potentially face combat situations. That's the first mistake.

Common
08-18-2016, 11:01 AM
This can't be surprising to anyone; they're in prison and get paid like $0.10/hr. I'd make crappy helmets, too and I guarantee the prison isn't spending any extra money to make sure it is done properly.

Prisons should not be making gear that will potentially face combat situations. That's the first mistake.

I agree why the hell they are using prison labor to make something that must be made right or it can cost lives is beyond stupid. Id like to know that gave them the govt contract. Aside from that it takes jobs from NON felon citizens

Common
08-18-2016, 11:05 AM
Crepitus is right theres far more convicts in state prison that are not muslims. The statement had nothing to do with the reality of the thread which is WHY are convicts producing military gear. That takes jobs from non felon citizens and who gave a prison system a govt contract.

nathanbforrest45
08-18-2016, 11:19 AM
This can't be surprising to anyone; they're in prison and get paid like $0.10/hr. I'd make crappy helmets, too and I guarantee the prison isn't spending any extra money to make sure it is done properly.

Prisons should not be making gear that will potentially face combat situations. That's the first mistake.


Hear Hear

Regardless of their motivation they certainly have zero incentive to produce a quality product.

AZ Jim
08-18-2016, 11:22 AM
Why is that not a valid question?Ahhhh yes! There is mr. Stereotype.

Mac-7
08-18-2016, 11:45 AM
Ahhhh yes! There is mr. Stereotype.

Jim is going to pick through the murderers, rapists and kiddie drug dealers looking for that diamond in the rough.

donttread
08-18-2016, 04:10 PM
Inmates made defective combat helmets for U.S. troops — and no one was prosecuted


Federal inmates made thousands of defective combat helmets for the U.S. military at a prison facility that was rife with problems, including the use of degraded armor and the submission of preselected helmets for inspection to make sure they would get approved, according to a newly released investigative report.
A Justice Department Inspector General summary report (https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/i1608.pdf) released Wednesday said faulty helmets were made by Federal Prison Industries (FPI), for both the Army and Marine Corps. The U.S. government-owned company operates under the trade name UNICOR and served as a subcontractor for ArmorSource, an Ohio company that was one of four defense firms to win an estimated $30 million contract in 2006 for the Army’s then-new Advanced Combat Helmet. Separately, ArmorSource won multimillion-dollar contracts for the Marine Corps Lightweight Helmet, which has a slightly different design.
The Army disclosed in 2010 that it was recalling 44,000 helmets (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/17/army.recalls.combat.helmet/), including some in use in Afghanistan, citing an open federal investigation into ArmorSource. Army officials said at the time that the recall was issued after the Justice Department informed them that there was evidence that some of their helmets were produced using unauthorized materials and practices that could reduce protection for U.S. troops in combat.
The Justice Department announced in March (https://oig.justice.gov/press/2016/2016-03-07.pdf) that it reached a $3 million false-claims settlement against ArmorSource, and noted that FPI was a subcontractor. The new report states that FPI made helmets that had unauthorized or degraded materials, expired paint and other deformities. For example, fragments of Kevlar and dust were used to fill parts of helmets. The serial numbers on some helmets also were either altered or changed, the report said.
The inspector general also cites the Defense Contract Management Agency, which was supposed to provide oversight for the military. Inspectors did not conduct reviews, lacked training and submitted false reports in which they said shipments of helmets had been tested, according to the IG report.
“At least in one instance an inspector certified the lots as being inspected over a fax machine,” the report said.
A Defense Department official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss specifics of the case, said the Pentagon was reviewing the findings for future action. The report said two investigations were conducted jointly involving the Justice Department Inspector General, the Army and the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, which carries out criminal probes for the Defense Department Inspector General.
Overall, 126,052 Army helmets were recalled, and monetary losses and costs to the government totaled nearly $19.1 million, according to the report. An initial shipment of Marine Corps helmets resulted in a quarantine of 23,000 and a halt to additional deliveries.
Federal prosecutors decided not to press charges against anyone involved, either at ArmorSource or at the FPI plant in Texas, the report said. Peter Carr, a Justice Department spokesman, said that as a matter of policy, the department does not provide an explanation for why charges haven’t been filed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/17/inmates-made-defective-combat-helmets-for-u-s-troops-and-no-one-was-prosecuted/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_checkpoint-helmets-720pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Another case where government's inability to utilize common sense is unmatched . The prisoners should work on n on campus farm and help produce their own food . Not build the equipment that protects our kids in war zones.
On ther other hand growing their own food could provide exercise, a connection to the earth and marketable job skills and rewards could be based upon cross gang cooperation.

Common Sense
08-18-2016, 04:15 PM
Stick to licence plates.