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Common
08-24-2016, 06:25 PM
We need to give them more money and kiss their ass some more too.


This is a breaking news story and will be updated as new information becomes available.

The following is Aug. 23, 2016 video of guided missile destroyer USS Nitze (DDG-94) harassed by four Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) patrol boats


The guided-missile destroyer USS Nitze (DDG-94) was followed and harassed by four Iranian patrol boats on Tuesday in the Persian Gulf, defense officials confirmed to USNI News.
The destroyer was in the vicinity of the Strait of Hormuz when four Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy high-speed patrol boats came at the ship without responding to hails or warning flares fired from Nitze, according to a video of the incident provided to USNI News.
“This is USS Nitze reporting from the Southern Arabian Gulf,” said a voice on the video reporting the ship’s location and speed.
“We have visual contact with four Iranian… WPBs… Bridge to bridge COMMS were conducted but no response. Weapons uncovered… appears to be unsafe, unprofessional.”
While the voice is making the radio report, the four patrol boats speed in a serpentine formation toward Nitze with their deck weapons uncovered. Flares from the destroyer attempt to warn away the patrol boats as they close in on the ship.
Nitze’s crew attempted to hail the fired 10 warning flares at the patrol boats and blasted the ship’s whistle to sound a maritime danger signal to no apparent effect, a defense official confirmed to USNI News late Wednesday.
Two of the patrol boats came within 300 yards of the destroyer before slowing and breaking off their chase.
“The Nitze and U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) assessed the interaction as unsafe and unprofessional due to the Iranian vessels not abiding by international law and maritime standards including the 1972 Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREGS) maritime ‘Rules of the Road’,” a defense official told USNI News.
“The Iranian high rate of closure on a Unites States ship operating in accordance with international law while transiting in international waters along with the disregard of multiple warning attempts created a dangerous, harassing situation that could have led to further escalation including additional defensive measures by Nitze.”


https://news.usni.org/2016/08/24/video-destroyer-uss-nitze-harassed-iranian-patrol-boats

MisterVeritis
08-24-2016, 06:26 PM
It will be good to have an American President.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 06:27 PM
A few billion more should do it.

Ethereal
08-24-2016, 06:30 PM
Common, why do you hate Iran so much? What have they ever done to you?

maineman
08-24-2016, 06:31 PM
a navy destroyer would make quick work of some Iranian gunboats if they needed to... this is saber rattling with really tiny sabers.

jimmyz
08-24-2016, 06:36 PM
It's been going on since 1981 when we had to flag Kuwait's oil tankers going through the strait. We even blew an Iranian commercial airliner out of the sky by mistake. Nothing new here other than insecure Iranians playing jetski games.

exploited
08-24-2016, 06:38 PM
So what?

They can harass all they want. This is what countries do to maintain their sovereignty, and all serious countries do it.

If they want to attack, they can, and what happens next won't be pretty.

Common
08-24-2016, 07:55 PM
Common, why do you hate Iran so much? What have they ever done to you?

On November 4, 1979, an angry mob of young Islamic revolutionaries overran the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, taking more than 60 Americans hostage. "From the moment the hostages were seized until they were released minutes after Ronald Reagan took the oath of office as president 444 days later

Common
08-24-2016, 07:56 PM
So what?

They can harass all they want. This is what countries do to maintain their sovereignty, and all serious countries do it.

If they want to attack, they can, and what happens next won't be pretty.

Nice left wing puke to cover for your worthless potus

maineman
08-24-2016, 08:29 PM
Nice left wing puke to cover for your worthless potus

what would you have our president have the destroyer do in this instance?

exploited
08-24-2016, 08:42 PM
Nice left wing puke to cover for your worthless potus

I don't know what this means.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 09:08 PM
a navy destroyer would make quick work of some Iranian gunboats if they needed to... this is saber rattling with really tiny sabers.


Obviously they don't believe our current commander in chief has the will or credibility to do anything.

Common
08-24-2016, 09:11 PM
I don't know what this means.

What that means is obama has literally kissed their ass and paid them off and they still spit in his face.

Hes lifted the embargo and made a deal with them, they broke it. He agrees to give them over a billion dollars thats been held since 1979 he pays them 400,000,000 to release hostages and now they do this.

Hes done everything for them including kissing their balls and the treat him like what he is a chump

maineman
08-24-2016, 09:11 PM
Obviously they don't believe our current commander in chief has the will or credibility to do anything.

what do you think is an appropriate response, sarge? Throw some MRE's at them?

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 09:14 PM
what do you think is an appropriate response, sarge? Throw some MRE's at them?


What do you suppose a true competent and decisive leader with a real foreign policy would do? Draw a red line somewhere, then ignore it when he got punked?

you'd be wetting the bed if this was ignored during a Republican administration.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 09:15 PM
What that means is obama has literally kissed their ass and paid them off and they still spit in his face.

Hes lifted the embargo and made a deal with them, they broke it. He agrees to give them over a billion dollars thats been held since 1979 he pays them 400,000,000 to release hostages and now they do this.

Hes done everything for them including kissing their balls and the treat him like what he is a chump

They don't respect him. They aren't afraid of him either.

Peter1469
08-24-2016, 09:17 PM
and, as expected, @Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659) tucks his tail and slinks away.

what a pussy.


Warning: discuss the topic, not each other. And watch the mouth.

Mac-7
08-24-2016, 09:27 PM
We need to give them more money and kiss their ass some more too.



If thats what they want obumer will have to do it

they already butt fucked him so ass kissing is expected

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 09:30 PM
Our current president has been neutered by his own incompetence. He doesn't have the credibility to do anything through diplomatic means, because there's nothing to back his words. He's a weakling.

del
08-24-2016, 09:32 PM
On November 4, 1979, an angry mob of young Islamic revolutionaries overran the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, taking more than 60 Americans hostage. "From the moment the hostages were seized until they were released minutes after Ronald Reagan took the oath of office as president 444 days later

on october 23, 1983, 241 us marines were killed in a bombing attack on their barracks in beirut.

the great ronald reagan flapped his gums and didn't do shit.

funny how you guys never seem to remember that

maineman
08-24-2016, 09:46 PM
exactly. Ronnie turned tail and ran like a yellow-bellied pussy but the right still deifies his cowardly ass.

maineman
08-24-2016, 09:50 PM
What do you suppose a true competent and decisive leader with a real foreign policy would do? Draw a red line somewhere, then ignore it when he got punked?

you'd be wetting the bed if this was ignored during a Republican administration.

I'd ask if any laws had been broken, and if there was not, and it was only harmless saber rattling, I'd ignore them.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 09:51 PM
Unbelievable.

Common
08-24-2016, 09:55 PM
on october 23, 1983, 241 us marines were killed in a bombing attack on their barracks in beirut.

the great ronald reagan flapped his gums and didn't do shit.

funny how you guys never seem to remember that

First of all this thread is about 2016. Using your reasoning, I could tell you about Jimmy carter sitting on his ass for a year while Iran had 60 hostages and then tried against all military advisement because it was way to late a rescue that failed and reagan had to negotiate their release. So you can your history.

The point of this thread wasnt what obama could do about THIS INCIDENT. Its about his failed deal after they sucked him in to end the embargo. About him promising them over a billion dollars thats been held by all presidents since 1979, him giving them 400,000,000 for hostages they took. Now this, you would think after all his ass kissing, capitulating and giving them everything they wanted they would at least not spank his ass till he left office. Hes a jerkoff, just like jimmy carter.

The marines in beirut were put in an impossible position, they had no mission they had light arms, there was no way that few with what they had with them could successfully carry out a mission. They were sitting ducks and they shouldnt have been there and that was REAGANS fault. What he did after wards is what any other president would have done, nothing. The only alternative was to indescriminately kill civilians because there were no tangible targets.

Del before you shoot your mouth off about what I would deny and what I dont. Ask my opinion first.

maineman
08-24-2016, 09:58 PM
I personally have had soviet destroyers come within 20 feet of my ship and nobody say anything about it.... it's just games that sailors play at sea... "just get by" sergeants like Tahuyaman who've never seen the scary side of the mess tent should probably shut the fuck up when it comes to commenting on actions by Naval units.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 09:59 PM
The Marine Corps made a huge tactical blunder by housing all of them in a situation where that could happen.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 10:00 PM
I personally have had soviet destroyers come within 20 feet of my ship and nobody say anything about it.... it's just games that sailors play at sea... "just get by" sergeants like @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) who've never seen the scary side of the mess tent should probably shut the $#@! up when it comes to commenting on actions by Naval units.

Lol. Have at it Popeye.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 10:04 PM
When you have leadership at the top which is incompetent and indecisive, these things happen more often. Our enemies no longer respect or fear us.

maineman
08-24-2016, 10:05 PM
First of all this thread is about 2016. Using your reasoning, I could tell you about Jimmy carter sitting on his ass for a year while Iran had 60 hostages and then tried against all military advisement because it was way to late a rescue that failed and reagan had to negotiate their release. So you can your history.

The point of this thread wasnt what obama could do about THIS INCIDENT. Its about his failed deal after they sucked him in to end the embargo. About him promising them over a billion dollars thats been held by all presidents since 1979, him giving them 400,000,000 for hostages they took. Now this, you would think after all his ass kissing, capitulating and giving them everything they wanted they would at least not spank his ass till he left office. Hes a jerkoff, just like jimmy carter.

The marines in beirut were put in an impossible position, they had no mission they had light arms, there was no way that few with what they had with them could successfully carry out a mission. They were sitting ducks and they shouldnt have been there and that was REAGANS fault. What he did after wards is what any other president would have done, nothing. The only alternative was to indescriminately kill civilians because there were no tangible targets.

Del before you shoot your mouth off about what I would deny and what I dont. Ask my opinion first.six months before the Marines were slaughtered by a truck laden with explosives driving into the very their compound in Beirut, the US Embassy in that very same city was attacked by folks driving a truck laden with explosives into the very heart of the Embassy killing fifty or more folks. The fact that Reagan had six months to harden the Marine barracks and did NOTHING to do so is horrible. The fact that the right still holds him up as a demigod is revolting and repugnant. Name an airport after him? He should have been impeached!

maineman
08-24-2016, 10:08 PM
When you have leadership at the top which is incompetent and indecisive, these things happen more often. Our enemies no longer respect or fear us.

A wise leader would not be baited by naval maneuvers which broke no laws. Again... any real moves by Iranian gunboats against a US Navy destroyer would be countered with lopsided and brief responses. They know that. We know that.

maineman
08-24-2016, 10:10 PM
When you have leadership at the top which is incompetent and indecisive, these things happen more often. Our enemies no longer respect or fear us.

those things happened all the time when Reagan was president. Soviet vessels played chicken with US Navy units all the time.

del
08-24-2016, 10:14 PM
The Marine Corps made a huge tactical blunder by housing all of them in a situation where that could happen.

yeah, it was the marines fault

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 10:25 PM
Mainman is comparing Iran to the Soviet Union.

Funny shit.

maineman
08-24-2016, 10:25 PM
The Marine Corps made a huge tactical blunder by housing all of them in a situation where that could happen.

simple concrete barriers in front of the building would have prevented the problem. The CinC is ultimately responsible for the failure to learn from the embassy bombing, yet no one has ever held him accountable for that carnage.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 10:28 PM
Gee. Why didn't the Marine Corps leadership think of that one?

maineman
08-24-2016, 10:29 PM
Mainman is comparing Iran to the Soviet Union.

Funny shit.

I am comparing provocative acts at sea made by two different nations. The fact that you find that "funny" is only proof that you should stay out of any discussions about military actions that don't deal with your opinion about the quality of various MRE options. Sergeant "Just get by".

maineman
08-24-2016, 10:29 PM
Gee. Why didn't the Marine Corps leadership think of that one?

Ask their boss that question.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 10:33 PM
Ask their boss that question.
I think he's retired by now.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 10:35 PM
Maineman goes berserk when one criticizes the lack of leadership at the very top today.

del
08-24-2016, 10:45 PM
Maineman goes berserk when one criticizes the lack of leadership at the very top today.

you should borrow subderpal's dictionary.

it would make you look marginally less stupid.

Tahuyaman
08-24-2016, 11:01 PM
There..... That's better. Heavy sigh.....

Mac-7
08-25-2016, 08:41 AM
on october 23, 1983, 241 us marines were killed in a bombing attack on their barracks in beirut.

the great ronald reagan flapped his gums and didn't do $#@!.

funny how you guys never seem to remember that

Reagan did do something

he admitted that sending the Marines to lebanon was a mistake and pulled them out

but I guess he could have blamed the whole thing on a video and stayed around to nation build, huh?