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Peter1469
09-02-2016, 04:43 AM
As people hear more about Clinton's criminality and failures in office her poll numbers drop. Now down to 39% according to Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch).


Hillary Clinton’s post-convention lead has disappeared, putting her behind Donald Trump for the first time nationally since mid-July.

Mac-7
09-02-2016, 04:46 AM
A 1% lead is not enough to overcome the dead people vote for democrsts that the pollsters never account for.

Peter1469
09-02-2016, 04:49 AM
A 1% lead is not enough to overcome the dead people vote for democrsts that the pollsters never account for.
It is trending in the correct direction.

Mac-7
09-02-2016, 04:52 AM
It is trending in the correct direction.

thats better than trending down

but...

midcan5
09-02-2016, 05:37 AM
Sounds like the polls that had Romney in a landslide. Who, you ask?


"I’m a Republican, but I believe that Hillary Clinton is the only qualified major party candidate in the race and she should become president. Yet to win, and certainly to succeed as president, she needs to demonstrate that she understands how much appearances matter, as well as facts and law, and that the president should not unnecessarily open herself up to attack."


"Donald Trump is the internet troll of presidential politics. When he’s securely removed from the objects of his scorn, he’s tough as nails; when he’s in their presence, he quivers like a bowl of Jell-O....Such is the way of a bully." http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/opinion/campaign-stops/the-duplicity-of-donald-trump.html


"White House political appointees and members of Congress show favoritism regularly, from how quickly they return campaign contributors’ telephone calls to which meeting requests they honor to who gets what they want in the policy arena."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/opinion/the-real-clinton-foundation-revelation.html


Benghazi - http://benghazicommittee.com/benghazi-by-the-numbers/

Mac-7
09-02-2016, 05:40 AM
Sounds like the polls that had Romney in a landslide. Who, you ask?

The polls didnt reach dead people in that election ether

midcan5
09-02-2016, 05:48 AM
The polls didnt reach dead people in that election ether

If you must, believe myth, if it comforts your conservative soul, believe. But if one day you start to think, see below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html


http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/misleading-myth-voter-fraud-american-elections


http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/10/30/debunking-the-conservative-medias-2014-voter-fr/201382

donttread
09-02-2016, 06:13 AM
As people hear more about Clinton's criminality and failures in office her poll numbers drop. Now down to 39% according to Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch).

So sanity has 21%. That's an improvement.

Ethereal
09-02-2016, 06:23 AM
This doesn't bode well for Clinton, especially if Assange has more material to release.

Because as we saw with Brexit, the mainstream polls are biased in favor of what the establishment wants.

Whether that is intentional, inadvertent, or some combination of the two, I cannot say.

But I wouldn't be surprised if something similar is happening in America with support for Trump being underestimated.

I still think Clinton will win, but I would not be surprised if Trump won either.

I think the race will be much closer than Clinton supporters keep telling everyone.

Common
09-02-2016, 06:24 AM
Sounds like the polls that had Romney in a landslide. Who, you ask?


"I’m a Republican, but I believe that Hillary Clinton is the only qualified major party candidate in the race and she should become president. Yet to win, and certainly to succeed as president, she needs to demonstrate that she understands how much appearances matter, as well as facts and law, and that the president should not unnecessarily open herself up to attack."


"Donald Trump is the internet troll of presidential politics. When he’s securely removed from the objects of his scorn, he’s tough as nails; when he’s in their presence, he quivers like a bowl of Jell-O....Such is the way of a bully." http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/opinion/campaign-stops/the-duplicity-of-donald-trump.html


"White House political appointees and members of Congress show favoritism regularly, from how quickly they return campaign contributors’ telephone calls to which meeting requests they honor to who gets what they want in the policy arena."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/opinion/the-real-clinton-foundation-revelation.html


Benghazi - http://benghazicommittee.com/benghazi-by-the-numbers/

Same pollsters that had hillary winning by 14pts a week ago

Ransom
09-02-2016, 06:39 AM
So sanity has 21%. That's an improvement.

What up, Colin?

Mac-7
09-02-2016, 07:01 AM
If you must, believe myth, if it comforts your conservative soul, believe. But if one day you start to think, see below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html


http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/misleading-myth-voter-fraud-american-elections


http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/10/30/debunking-the-conservative-medias-2014-voter-fr/201382

I am exprcted to believe your far left media sources instead?

no thanks

there is only one reason for democrats to oppose voter id laws and that is because cheating helps them win elections

Crepitus
09-02-2016, 07:10 AM
As people hear more about Clinton's criminality and failures in office her poll numbers drop. Now down to 39% according to Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch).
First of all, rasmussen leans heavy to the republican side, I don't think they ever actually showed trump behind did they?

A 1% lead is not enough to overcome the dead people vote for democrsts that the pollsters never account for.
and LMFAO!!

Getting the excuses ready at the beginning of September? Are you really that sure your gonna lose?

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 07:18 AM
If you must, believe myth, if it comforts your conservative soul, believe. But if one day you start to think, see below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html


http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/misleading-myth-voter-fraud-american-elections


http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/10/30/debunking-the-conservative-medias-2014-voter-fr/201382

I Detroit in 2012 there were 11 voting districts that had more that 100% turn out? That is hard to do

In Philly 59 Districts had 0 vote for Romney, over 289 thousand votes, not one for Romney

Cleveland was the only city that I know of that prosecute over 100 cases of voter fraud, only 3 of them were for the GOP

And is Chicago, it is a running joke that Dead people vote, it is expected and tolerated.

And then you have the Illegals this time around? Why do you think that the Democrats have been pushing so hard to prevent the voter ID laws.

Standing Wolf
09-02-2016, 07:43 AM
Trump is nowhere near through sabotaging himself. After a semi-lame attempt at "looking Presidential" for a couple of hours down in Mexico, he came to Phoenix for a "policy speech on immigration" and proceeded to double-down on every stupid lie, insult and silly fantasy he's ever presented on the topic. That as many Americans continue to take him as seriously as they do is a sad commentary on some folks' grasp of reality. This isn't a casting call for the next Die Hard movie, guys. Wake the f**k up.

Ransom
09-02-2016, 07:57 AM
Hillary I reckon could audition for Die Hard. She's been under sniper fire and thus wouldn't have to act.

And Standing Wolf may have some points....but is of course voting for Hillary. And thus forfeits any shred of integrity or honesty in making those points. Stupid, silly, and lame some of the terms found in his post.

Those terms can also be found in his mirror. Moving on.

donttread
09-02-2016, 08:08 AM
What up, Colin?

No dung to fling? Your improving in your ability to relate to sane humans. Good for you, long way to go, but good for you.

Standing Wolf
09-02-2016, 08:13 AM
Hillary I reckon could audition for Die Hard. She's been under sniper fire and thus wouldn't have to act.

And Standing Wolf may have some points....but is of course voting for Hillary. And thus forfeits any shred of integrity or honesty in making those points. Stupid, silly, and lame some of the terms found in his post.

Those terms can also be found in his mirror. Moving on.

I would vote for Mitch McConnell's dog if it meant keeping Trump out of the White House.

It is less the man's views that turn so many of nearly all political persuasions and ideologies off - including many true Conservatives, I might add, many of whom I genuinely respect and with whom I find myself in agreement on some subjects. Trump is an unprincipled, unaware, socially retarded and very, very ignorant human being. I think most people are able to see that; the mystery is why so many don't seem to think his being that way should disqualify him from becoming the President of the most powerful nation on the planet.

Mac-7
09-02-2016, 08:24 AM
First of all, rasmussen leans heavy to the republican side, I don't think they ever actually showed trump behind did they?

and LMFAO!!

Getting the excuses ready at the beginning of September? Are you really that sure your gonna lose?

If trump loses big I blame that on trump

but there is always the 2 or 3% democrat cheat vote for republicans to overcome.

Subdermal
09-02-2016, 08:28 AM
Trump is nowhere near through sabotaging himself. After a semi-lame attempt at "looking Presidential" for a couple of hours down in Mexico, he came to Phoenix for a "policy speech on immigration" and proceeded to double-down on every stupid lie, insult and silly fantasy he's ever presented on the topic. That as many Americans continue to take him as seriously as they do is a sad commentary on some folks' grasp of reality. This isn't a casting call for the next Die Hard movie, guys. Wake the f**k up.

I don't think you understand what he's doing.

He's the smorgasbord candidate: each person can find something on the spread that they like. In this day and age of the vapid and uneducated voter - and usurer media - that's likely to work pretty well.

It's why my personal diagnosis of Trump doesn't stem as much from the contradictions in what he says, but in an understanding of the strategy behind it, in light of the media's treatment of him, and of anyone opposed to the left in general.

In this case, he's demonstrating to those who need it demonstrated that he can be a poised statesman, and - in the case of the Phoenix rally - can be bombastic and plain-speaking for those who really gravitated towards the guy who skirted the edges of civil speech and bluntly said what he wants.

There are a lot of those, and Trump cannot afford to lose them.

Beevee
09-02-2016, 08:28 AM
As people hear more about Clinton's criminality and failures in office her poll numbers drop. Now down to 39% according to Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch).

How were the questions worded?

Subdermal
09-02-2016, 08:31 AM
I would vote for Mitch McConnell's dog if it meant keeping Trump out of the White House.

Which is exactly why your criticisms of Trump ring hollow. They emanate from an opponent, in exactly the same way the media spouts off.


It is less the man's views that turn so many of nearly all political persuasions and ideologies off - including many true Conservatives, I might add, many of whom I genuinely respect and with whom I find myself in agreement on some subjects.

Uh huh. If you're so hung up on this, then I'd suggest you are being far too petty, as clear acts of corruption on the part of Hillary have to rank as far more serious and impactful to our country's future.


Trump is an unprincipled, unaware, socially retarded and very, very ignorant human being. I think most people are able to see that; the mystery is why so many don't seem to think his being that way should disqualify him from becoming the President of the most powerful nation on the planet.

Nope. You simply do not understand what he is doing, from a strategic standpoint. It is why he has flummoxed the media so completely, and harnessed it as well as any human being in memory.

And because you tend to have the same leftist proclivities, he's flummoxed you as well.

Subdermal
09-02-2016, 08:33 AM
Trump is nowhere near through sabotaging himself. After a semi-lame attempt at "looking Presidential" for a couple of hours down in Mexico, he came to Phoenix for a "policy speech on immigration" and proceeded to double-down on every stupid lie, insult and silly fantasy he's ever presented on the topic. That as many Americans continue to take him as seriously as they do is a sad commentary on some folks' grasp of reality. This isn't a casting call for the next Die Hard movie, guys. Wake the f**k up.

BTW: wake the fuck up to what? That the alternatives to Trump are all worse for the country?

Safety
09-02-2016, 08:34 AM
LoL, polls.

del
09-02-2016, 08:36 AM
I don't think you understand what he's doing.

He's the smorgasbord candidate: each person can find something on the spread that they like. In this day and age of the vapid and uneducated voter - and usurer media - that's likely to work pretty well.

It's why my personal diagnosis of Trump doesn't stem as much from the contradictions in what he says, but in an understanding of the strategy behind it, in light of the media's treatment of him, and of anyone opposed to the left in general.

In this case, he's demonstrating to those who need it demonstrated that he can be a poised statesman, and - in the case of the Phoenix rally - can be bombastic and plain-speaking for those who really gravitated towards the guy who skirted the edges of civil speech and bluntly said what he wants.

There are a lot of those, and Trump cannot afford to lose them.

*poised statesman*

compared to whom, moe howard?

https://girlsdofilm.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/you-nazty-spy-1.jpg%3Fw%3D800

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 08:37 AM
I would vote for Mitch McConnell's dog if it meant keeping Trump out of the White House.

It is less the man's views that turn so many of nearly all political persuasions and ideologies off - including many true Conservatives, I might add, many of whom I genuinely respect and with whom I find myself in agreement on some subjects. Trump is an unprincipled, unaware, socially retarded and very, very ignorant human being. I think most people are able to see that; the mystery is why so many don't seem to think his being that way should disqualify him from becoming the President of the most powerful nation on the planet.

Because the alternative is a Criminal that will continue to sell out the USA to our enemies.

Ransom
09-02-2016, 08:39 AM
Imagine the news today had Trump, who has already been receiving classified briefings by our intelligence Agencies, used an illegal email server that got hacked by the Mexicans......

Statesmanlike indeed.

Ransom
09-02-2016, 08:39 AM
Because the alternative is a Criminal that will continue to sell out the USA to our enemies.

Exactly

Ransom
09-02-2016, 08:40 AM
Because the alternative is a Criminal that will continue to sell out the USA to our enemies.

And that says what about her supporters....those that will vote for her(subdermal, victimized Safety, and Walnut)

Subdermal
09-02-2016, 08:52 AM
*poised statesman*

compared to whom, moe howard?

That you choose to deny what even leftist pundits have expressed about Trump's appearance in Mexico is no one's problem but your own.

Subdermal
09-02-2016, 08:53 AM
And that says what about her supporters....those that will vote for her(subdermal, victimized Safety, and Walnut)

Um...wut? I'm voting for who?

ripmeister
09-02-2016, 09:01 AM
LoL, polls.

Yup.

Even if you do put much stock in polls at this point the national polls are irrelevant. What matters are the battle ground state polls.

Ransom
09-02-2016, 09:47 AM
They can then all get hysterical over the amount of money in politics.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/clinton-posts-huge-august-fundraising-haul-n641591

While they're voting for Hillary.

Safety
09-02-2016, 10:20 AM
And that says what about her supporters....those that will vote for her(subdermal, victimized Safety, and Walnut)

:rofl: :biglaugh:

Bethere
09-02-2016, 01:37 PM
As people hear more about Clinton's criminality and failures in office her poll numbers drop. Now down to 39% according to Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch).According to... RASMUSSEN.

lmfao.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/&ved=0ahUKEwiemL6CqvHOAhVL5SYKHXgMB3IQFggeMAE&usg=AFQjCNHgfjAce-CniokogOIAUjkTzf7rCA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/&ved=0ahUKEwiemL6CqvHOAhVL5SYKHXgMB3IQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNGHF-9t911IHSaPMq-gdP2CW5tGUQ

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 01:41 PM
Many have pointed out that Polls mean little at this point but the do show trends.

Trump in nearly every poll has gained a lot of ground.

There are only 3 battle ground states that are outside of the margin of error.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 01:44 PM
Many have pointed out that Polls mean little at this point but the do show trends.

Trump in nearly every poll has gained a lot of ground.

There are only 3 battle ground states that are outside of the margin of error.

And all trump has to do is run the table.

Lmao.

Peter1469
09-02-2016, 01:45 PM
How were the questions worded?

The article that I linked to has a link to the survey question / methods.

AZ Jim
09-02-2016, 01:51 PM
Peter, I recommend you try a tiny bit of crow daily so you can eat lots of it in November.

del
09-02-2016, 02:03 PM
That you choose to deny what even leftist pundits have expressed about Trump's appearance in Mexico is no one's problem but your own.

the value of the leftist pundits' opinions is on a level with your own.

del
09-02-2016, 02:04 PM
Um...wut? I'm voting for who?

don't mind von kluge

he's almost as perceptive as you

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 02:11 PM
And all trump has to do is run the table.

Lmao.

OH I understand, I think that you are correct it is still an outside chance.

But if Trump stays close, the Senate Remain in GOP hands. and that to some extent protects the Supreme Court.

MI / WI are the flyer States. While they are normally safe Democrat states, both are in play. And thus money will have to be spent to defend those states. VA and PA are still looking very Democrat WVA is gone for the Democrats, and that helps as it is usually safe DNC territory.

But Trump needs Florida and Ohio for sure. For me? They both are going to be terrible Presidents. I believe that Hillary will be impeached, I believe that she will use the office to line her own pocket. and I believe that she will be convicted and Removed from office. I just think that she is that Dirty.

I think that Trump will be either a fantastic President that will surprise everyone. (not very likely) or he will be a one term President (More likely)

I think that the big looser in this years election? The American people.

Peter1469
09-02-2016, 03:12 PM
Peter, I recommend you try a tiny bit of crow daily so you can eat lots of it in November.

Why? I know my candidate can't win.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 03:21 PM
Why? I know my candidate can't win.

Good times!

gamewell45
09-02-2016, 03:42 PM
As people hear more about Clinton's criminality and failures in office her poll numbers drop. Now down to 39% according to Rasmussen (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch).

Definitely a very tight race, but as i've said before, the best and most accurate poll is conducted on Election Day.

Tahuyaman
09-02-2016, 04:25 PM
Sounds like the polls that had Romney in a landslide.

I remember some polls having him ahead slightly at times, but I don't ever recall one having him winning by a landslide.

Crepitus
09-02-2016, 04:34 PM
If trump loses big I blame that on trump

but there is always the 2 or 3% democrat cheat vote for republicans to overcome.

There is no "cheat vote". It's all a fantasy sold to you by your fearless leaders to excuse their ineptitude when they lose.

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 04:48 PM
There is no "cheat vote". It's all a fantasy sold to you by your fearless leaders to excuse their ineptitude when they lose.

We have been here before, And while the proven fraud was not enough to change any national election, there was fraud and people were prosecuted and went to jail.

And while it did not change the election in 2012, it should not be acceptable to any of us.

I do believe that the GOP will use the same tactics in this election. If they do, then the Democrats will be screaming for ID laws.

Crepitus
09-02-2016, 04:51 PM
We have been here before, And while the proven fraud was not enough to change any national election, there was fraud and people were prosecuted and went to jail.

And while it did not change the election in 2012, it should not be acceptable to any of us.

I do believe that the GOP will use the same tactics in this election. If they do, then the Democrats will be screaming for ID laws.

You do realise that most of the proven cases of voter fraud have been by republicans right? And didn't involve individual fraud but large scale stuff.

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 04:55 PM
You do realise that most of the proven cases of voter fraud have been by republicans right? And didn't involve individual fraud but large scale stuff.

Don't mind providing a link do you?

Tahuyaman
09-02-2016, 05:15 PM
If trump loses big I blame that on trump

but there is always the 2 or 3% democrat cheat vote for republicans to overcome.

Hold the freaking cards!

Not too long ago you were blaming the people like me who refuse to compromise their principles to vote for him.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 05:39 PM
Hold the freaking cards!

Not too long ago you were blaming the people like me who refuse to compromise their principles to vote for him.

And afterwards he'll 1) deny he is a Republican, while 2) claiming that they never win because they never run a true conservative.

Tahuyaman
09-02-2016, 05:48 PM
And afterwards he'll 1) deny he is a Republican, while 2) claiming that they never win because they never run a true conservative.

Based on the last few elections he'd be right about the Republicans not nominating a conservative. The Bush's arguably aren't solid conservatives and certainly Romney, McCain and Trump are not conservatives.

But, Mac is a true Republican Party hack. He's just like the Democrat party hacks here.

Ransom
09-02-2016, 06:04 PM
:rofl: :biglaugh:

I don't think ewe sheep grazing on every piece of manure she shovels is funny. But ok.

Ransom
09-02-2016, 06:06 PM
don't mind von kluge

he's almost as perceptive as you

No one called for a shoeshine, Walnut. There's a good lad.

Crepitus
09-02-2016, 06:43 PM
Don't mind providing a link do you?

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/16/republican-voter-fraud-florida-poll-workers-caught-hiding-democratic-votes-closet/

Or even better, here's a list!

http://addictinginfo.org/2013/06/21/shocker-republicans-account-for-most-cases-of-u-s-voter-fraud/

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 07:04 PM
And afterwards he'll 1) deny he is a Republican, while 2) claiming that they never win because they never run a true conservative.

Well I will claim right now that I am not a Republican, and that I am voting for Trump.

I will also say that Trump is not a Conservative, But he does stick it to the establishment.

I also think that Hillary Still has about a 60% chance of winning, but I am hoping that Trump is very close so the GOP can retain the Senate

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 07:08 PM
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/16/republican-voter-fraud-florida-poll-workers-caught-hiding-democratic-votes-closet/

Or even better, here's a list!

http://addictinginfo.org/2013/06/21/shocker-republicans-account-for-most-cases-of-u-s-voter-fraud/

Thank You. I really think that voter fraud is a problem I have posted many cases of GOP and DNC fraud. Now you have posted even more of them.

One thing that I noticed is that Voter ID would eliminate nearly all of these fraudulent votes.

I think that it is high time we stop the DNC and the GOP and let the will of the people be heard.

What say you???

Bethere
09-02-2016, 07:13 PM
Thank You. I really think that voter fraud is a problem I have posted many cases of GOP and DNC fraud. Now you have posted even more of them.

One thing that I noticed is that Voter ID would eliminate nearly all of these fraudulent votes.

I think that it is high time we stop the DNC and the GOP and let the will of the people be heard.

What say you???

Voter id would have done nothing to get those Democratic ballots out of that Republican's closet.

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 07:14 PM
Voter id would have done nothing to get those Democratic ballots out of that Republican's closet.

And it would have done nothing for the people that were told that only GOP or DNC vote in this place or that place.

But it would have gotten rid of the majority of the fraud. So don't you think that we should take that action?

Bethere
09-02-2016, 07:22 PM
And it would have done nothing for the people that were told that only GOP or DNC vote in this place or that place.

But it would have gotten rid of the majority of the fraud. So don't you think that we should take that action?

I'm not going to pretend any of this is about voting fraud. Save that for others. This is about making it hard to vote for Democrats.

It's not going to work.

You and your frustrated party are doomed.

The Xl
09-02-2016, 08:27 PM
Moar polls.

Crepitus
09-02-2016, 08:37 PM
Thank You. I really think that voter fraud is a problem I have posted many cases of GOP and DNC fraud. Now you have posted even more of them.

One thing that I noticed is that Voter ID would eliminate nearly all of these fraudulent votes.

I think that it is high time we stop the DNC and the GOP and let the will of the people be heard.

What say you???

Actually none of the cases I listed have anything to do with voter ID. They are all cases of republicans in positions of power abusing said power. Voter ID would accomplish nothing other than letting the republicans suppress a certain segment of the electorate.

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 09:43 PM
I'm not going to pretend any of this is about voting fraud. Save that for others. This is about making it hard to vote for Democrats.

It's not going to work.

You and your frustrated party are doomed.

OK then tell me which group of Democrats does it make it hard for them to vote? I have yet to find one.

Can you tell me which members of your party would be oppressed by having to provide a free State Identification ID

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 09:44 PM
Actually none of the cases I listed have anything to do with voter ID. They are all cases of republicans in positions of power abusing said power. Voter ID would accomplish nothing other than letting the republicans suppress a certain segment of the electorate.

Actually if you read down in your articles there are cases of fraud at the polling stations. Were an Id would have prevented that.

All fraud is bad and anyone caught should be severely punished

Bethere
09-02-2016, 10:31 PM
OK then tell me which group of Democrats does it make it hard for them to vote? I have yet to find one.

Can you tell me which members of your party would be oppressed by having to provide a free State Identification IDWe pled our case in federal court and won. It does not matter what you think.

zelmo1234
09-02-2016, 10:41 PM
We pled our case in federal court and won. It does not matter what you think.

Not really there are several states that have voter ID laws. MI is one of them.

But is was a brilliant dodge from the question.

So I will answer it for you. It effects NOBODY, because you have to have a Government Photo ID to register to vote.

What it does do is prevents the registering of lots of people that are in Nursing homes, and places that they can't vote, and having impostors vote for them.

But the early bird gets the worm, and the GOP has figured that out. being that the left is usually a bit well lets just say lazy. we can get up early and vote in for those people and when the left shows up? they will have already voted.

I suspect that in 2020 we will have a great national voter ID law.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 10:45 PM
Not really there are several states that have voter ID laws. MI is one of them.

But is was a brilliant dodge from the question.

So I will answer it for you. It effects NOBODY, because you have to have a Government Photo ID to register to vote.

What it does do is prevents the registering of lots of people that are in Nursing homes, and places that they can't vote, and having impostors vote for them.

But the early bird gets the worm, and the GOP has figured that out. being that the left is usually a bit well lets just say lazy. we can get up early and vote in for those people and when the left shows up? they will have already voted.

I suspect that in 2020 we will have a great national voter ID law.

You live a fantasy. I live in Ohio, for example. I don't need a photo id to vote.

The vast majority of what you say is usually false.

Ransom
09-03-2016, 10:58 AM
You live a fantasy. I live in Ohio, for example. I don't need a photo id to vote.

The vast majority of what you say is usually false.

What do you need an ID in Ohio to do then?

Cash a check? Get money out of your bank maybe? Purchase a firearm?

You certainly wouldn't be suggesting gun rights be treated differently, must you have an ID to purchase a weapon in Ohio?

F'n...oops.

Peter1469
09-03-2016, 02:03 PM
What do you need an ID in Ohio to do then?

Cash a check? Get money out of your bank maybe? Purchase a firearm?

You certainly wouldn't be suggesting gun rights be treated differently, must you have an ID to purchase a weapon in Ohio?

F'n...oops.

The voter ID meme is so stupid it is amazing that the hard left still clings to it publically.

Mental retardation perhaps.

Ransom
09-04-2016, 07:04 AM
The voter ID meme is so stupid it is amazing that the hard left still clings to it publically.

Mental retardation perhaps.

Agenda Peter. They'd absolutely require an ID everywhere else as would every single border policy on this planet. The Left firmly believes every American must have proof of ID for a passport, to purchase a firearm, to drive an automobile, to establish anything else to do with residency....except for vote. They use it to play the race card, play the voter disenfranchised card while DWS is their DNC Chair.It's not mental retardation.....that is who the tactic works on......it's a transparent method to gain votes and political influence. Look to the Virginia Gov's attempt to allow felons to vote. He engages in this months before a Presidential election and pretends it comes from his heart? He has an agenda, not a heart.