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Bethere
09-02-2016, 07:07 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/hispanic-trump-surrogates-reconsider-support

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/mexican-president-enrique-pe-nieto-trump-we-will-never-pay-n641736&ved=0ahUKEwipxvjZ8_HOAhWFOSYKHTBtD4kQqG8IHTAB&usg=AFQjCNHQg4Sl3Lf9Ek2LXjqdCncDdW6sbg

He lied about the wall and got called on it by a foreign president. Later that night, he was so out of the mainstream that he lost most of his hispanic surrogates.

Jmho: Trump and his frustrated party are doomed.


Your thoughts?

Peter1469
09-02-2016, 10:10 PM
As we saw with the Brexit vote the world has changed.

The old right v left paradigm is no longer controlling. It is nationalism v. globalism. We all are going to have to adjust to this new reality.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 10:37 PM
As we saw with the Brexit vote the world has changed.

The old right v left paradigm is no longer controlling. It is nationalism v. globalism. We all are going to have to adjust to this new reality.

False. That's the losing Republican narrative.

You are a Republican.

TrueBlue
09-02-2016, 11:02 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/hispanic-trump-surrogates-reconsider-support

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/mexican-president-enrique-pe-nieto-trump-we-will-never-pay-n641736&ved=0ahUKEwipxvjZ8_HOAhWFOSYKHTBtD4kQqG8IHTAB&usg=AFQjCNHQg4Sl3Lf9Ek2LXjqdCncDdW6sbg

He lied about the wall and got called on it by a foreign president. Later that night, he was so out of the mainstream that he lost most of his hispanic surrogates.

Jmho: Trump and his frustrated party are doomed.


Your thoughts?
Just one. You have a remarkable grasp of the obvious! :)

Subdermal
09-02-2016, 11:22 PM
False. That's the losing Republican narrative.

You are a Republican.

False. That's the losing Democrat narrative.

You are a Democrat.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 11:34 PM
Just one. You have a remarkable grasp of the obvious! :)


Why, thank you! But I suspect some of our less accomplished friends shall disagree.

Bethere
09-02-2016, 11:41 PM
False. That's the losing Democrat narrative.

You are a Democrat.

On election night you:

1. You will deny that you are a Republican;
2. You will tell everyone who wants to hear that the only reason you guys lose is because you never run a true conservative.

I am a Democrat and I am proud.


All of this faux courting of blacks and hispanics is really a desperate attempt to minimize losses from whites with a college education.

But trump having to court white people for their votes at this late date?

That is much more fun than I had hoped.

My prediction has 366 electoral votes for Hillary. I'm beginning to regret not having picked a higher number.

Peter1469
09-03-2016, 12:21 AM
record low turnout. Americans will have a hard time voting for the crook Hillary.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 12:28 AM
record low turnout. Americans will have a hard time voting for the crook Hillary.


The theme for 2016:

THE ESTABLISHMENT WINS AGAIN!

Captain Obvious
09-03-2016, 12:30 AM
record low turnout. Americans will have a hard time voting for the crook Hillary.

Joe Biden would already be drafting his acceptance speech at this point.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 12:34 AM
Joe Biden would already be drafting his acceptance speech at this point.

He couldn't beat Hillary when he had the chance.

Any Democrat would have been subjected to the same evil congressional gauntlet as was Hillary. Surviving it was the game that Hillary was absolutely suited to winning.

I ask you to stay on topic. What did you think of trump's speech?

Captain Obvious
09-03-2016, 12:36 AM
lawl

Bethere
09-03-2016, 12:37 AM
lawl

We are in agreement.

Good times!

Captain Obvious
09-03-2016, 12:38 AM
We are in agreement.

Good times!

That's you're an angry dipshit?

Yeah, agreed on that one.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 12:39 AM
That's you're an angry dip$#@!?

Yeah, agreed on that one.

C'ya!

Dr. Who
09-03-2016, 12:54 AM
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The Xl
09-03-2016, 01:00 AM
He couldn't beat Hillary when he had the chance.

Any Democrat would have been subjected to the same evil congressional gauntlet as was Hillary. Surviving it was the game that Hillary was absolutely suited to winning.

I ask you to stay on topic. What did you think of trump's speech?

Times and perception change, Joe Biden would have wiped the floor with Hillary in a 2016 primary showdown, it wouldn't have been close.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 01:04 AM
Times and perception change, Joe Biden would have wiped the floor with Hillary in a 2016 primary showdown, it wouldn't have been close.

He has the same weaknesses and vulnerabilities he had in 2008. I like him a lot but I know those weaknesses to be true.

You are off topic, but it is 2am est, so feel free to tell me why you think he would be so strong.

Peter1469
09-03-2016, 07:52 AM
The theme for 2016:

THE ESTABLISHMENT WINS AGAIN!


That is a vote to crash the USD and the US economy. I am prepared. Are you? :shocked:

Bethere
09-03-2016, 01:00 PM
Moo
That is a vote to crash the USD and the US economy. I am prepared. Are you? :shocked:

You misread the tea leaves.

Don't get caught with a portfolio full of gold.

TrueBlue
09-03-2016, 01:13 PM
On election night you:

1. You will deny that you are a Republican;
2. You will tell everyone who wants to hear that the only reason you guys lose is because you never run a true conservative.

I am a Democrat and I am proud.


All of this faux courting of blacks and hispanics is really a desperate attempt to minimize losses from whites with a college education.

But trump having to court white people for their votes at this late date?

That is much more fun than I had hoped.

My prediction has 366 electoral votes for Hillary. I'm beginning to regret not having picked a higher number.
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MisterVeritis
09-03-2016, 01:35 PM
Jmho: Trump and his frustrated party are doomed.


Your thoughts?
My thought is Trump is going to win.

MisterVeritis
09-03-2016, 01:37 PM
That is a vote to crash the USD and the US economy. I am prepared. Are you? :shocked:
I need one more year from the sale of my house.

Peter1469
09-03-2016, 01:38 PM
Moo

You misread the tea leaves.

Don't get caught with a portfolio full of gold.

Gold is useless for a total economic collapse. You can't eat it. It will be useful after the crash is resolved, assuming you still have it.

Your boy's $19.5T debt will be deleveraged one way or another. Managed, or a crash. I predict a crash.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 01:53 PM
On election night you:

1. You will deny that you are a Republican;
2. You will tell everyone who wants to hear that the only reason you guys lose is because you never run a true conservative.

I am a Democrat and I am proud.


All of this faux courting of blacks and hispanics is really a desperate attempt to minimize losses from whites with a college education.

But trump having to court white people for their votes at this late date?

That is much more fun than I had hoped.

My prediction has 366 electoral votes for Hillary. I'm beginning to regret not having picked a higher number.


When was the last time the Republicans nominated a conservative?

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 01:55 PM
Gold is useless for a total economic collapse. You can't eat it. It will be useful after the crash is resolved, assuming you still have it.

Your boy's $19.5T debt will be deleveraged one way or another. Managed, or a crash. I predict a crash.

If there is a collapse, you are not going to be able to purchase anything with gold. You are going to need to sell it. You are only going to be able to sell it to someone who has the resources to buy it. It will be a buyers market.

I do not believe there will be this crash you speak of.

Peter1469
09-03-2016, 01:58 PM
If there is a collapse, you are not going to be able to purchase anything with gold. You are going to need to sell it. You are only going to be able to sell it to someone who has the resources to buy it. It will be a buyers market.

Hold it. Barter with useful items.

If you want a metal to sell keep silver.

Currently gold is ~$1300 an ounce. Most people after a crash won't be able to make change.

Silver is ~$20 an ounce. A coin will get you some food and water or a dry place to sleep the night.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 03:08 PM
Hold it. Barter with useful items.

If you want a metal to sell keep silver.

Currently gold is ~$1300 an ounce. Most people after a crash won't be able to make change.

Silver is ~$20 an ounce. A coin will get you some food and water or a dry place to sleep the night.

Stay on topic.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 03:09 PM
When was the last time the Republicans nominated a conservative?

Why don't you tell me, Republican.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 03:10 PM
Probably Ronald Reagan.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 03:11 PM
Gold is useless for a total economic collapse. You can't eat it. It will be useful after the crash is resolved, assuming you still have it.

Your boy's $19.5T debt will be deleveraged one way or another. Managed, or a crash. I predict a crash.

America's asset to debt ratio is outstanding.

You never seem to run out of false narratives.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 03:11 PM
Probably Ronald Reagan.

Reagan tripled the national debt.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 03:13 PM
Reagan tripled the national debt.


The President can't do that. Only the congress has that power.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 03:14 PM
The President can't do that. Only the congress has that power.

He introduced the budgets. He signed the laws.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 03:22 PM
He introduced the budgets. He signed the laws.


He also led the congress to enact tax rate cuts which resulted in revenues in to the treasury more than doubling.

Reagan's only failure was that he was unable to restrain Liberal wild-eyed spending policies.

Still, I believe he was the last Republican president or nominee who could be credibly called a conservative.

OGIS
09-03-2016, 03:25 PM
He has the same weaknesses and vulnerabilities he had in 2008. I like him a lot but I know those weaknesses to be true.

You are off topic, but it is 2am est, so feel free to tell me why you think he would be so strong.

Easy. Biden is corrupt, foot-in-mouth, but likeable. Hillery is simply corrupt.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 03:26 PM
America's asset to debt ratio is outstanding.

You never seem to run out of false narratives.

The current national debt is an anchor on the economy. It is unsustainable.

Partisan Democrats are only concerned about it when a Republican is in office. When the president is a Democrat and the congress is controlled by Democrats, the national debt and federal deficit is not anywhere on their radar screen.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 04:39 PM
He also led the congress to enact tax rate cuts which resulted in revenues in to the treasury more than doubling.

Reagan's only failure was that he was unable to restrain Liberal wild-eyed spending policies.

Still, I believe he was the last Republican president or nominee who could be credibly called a conservative.

Of course while revenue was doubling the economy as well as the deficits were tripling in size.

I encourage you to do two things:

1. Read David Stockman's "the triumph of politics" to learn the truth in detail about reagan, taxes, and budgets.

2. Stay on topic. This thread is about trump, immigration, and his ridiculous speech other day.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 04:42 PM
The current national debt is an anchor on the economy. It is unsustainable.

Partisan Democrats are only concerned about it when a Republican is in office. When the president is a Democrat and the congress is controlled by Democrats, the national debt and federal deficit is not anywhere on their radar screen.

The eonomy always does better, and the budgets are more in line under Democrats.

Now, back to trump and immigration.

decedent
09-03-2016, 04:46 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/hispanic-trump-surrogates-reconsider-support

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/mexican-president-enrique-pe-nieto-trump-we-will-never-pay-n641736&ved=0ahUKEwipxvjZ8_HOAhWFOSYKHTBtD4kQqG8IHTAB&usg=AFQjCNHQg4Sl3Lf9Ek2LXjqdCncDdW6sbg

He lied about the wall and got called on it by a foreign president. Later that night, he was so out of the mainstream that he lost most of his hispanic surrogates.

Jmho: Trump and his frustrated party are doomed.


Your thoughts?

Trump made his surrogates look like fools. While he was giving his fascist dystopian speech, they were saying he was going to soften his policies.


That is a vote to crash the USD and the US economy. I am prepared. Are you? :shocked:

It's actually sick that you want to see the destruction of the US economy. You have no idea how happy that would make the globalists who will swoop in and buy up the whole country for pennies on the dollar.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 04:47 PM
Easy. Biden is corrupt, foot-in-mouth, but likeable. Hillery is simply corrupt.Hillary is also uniquely skilled to survive the republican enslaught. No other democrat could have done so. That is 100% the reason I have backed her from the beginning.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 05:01 PM
Trump made his surrogates look like fools. While he was giving his fascist dystopian speech, they were saying he was going to soften his policies.



It's actually sick that you want to see the destruction of the US economy. You have no idea how happy that would make the globalists who will swoop in and buy up the whole country for pennies on the dollar.

I don't know if you saw any interviews with his surrogates, but they were frustrated, humiliated, and angry.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 05:57 PM
Of course while revenue was doubling the economy as well as the deficits were tripling in size....
.

Those liberals led by Tip Oneal couldn't resist spending the extra revenues. Money burns a hole in the pockets of liberal politicians.

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 06:01 PM
The eonomy always does better, and the budgets are more in line under Democrats.

Now, back to trump and immigration.

One of the greatest economic eras in history was when we observed what the media termed "Reaganomics". Both Democrats and Republicans tried to take the credit.

Peter1469
09-03-2016, 07:30 PM
America's asset to debt ratio is outstanding.

You never seem to run out of false narratives.

Incorrect. If interest rates return to their historic averages the cost to service our debt will crowd out most discretionary spending.

I know, math is hard.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Faintiawomanblog.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fmath-is-hard.jpg&f=1

Tahuyaman
09-03-2016, 08:08 PM
Incorrect. If interest rates return to their historic averages the cost to service our debt will crowd out most discretionary spending.

I know, math is hard.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Faintiawomanblog.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fmath-is-hard.jpg&f=1

Some people think if make shit up and repeat it enough, it will become fact.

MisterVeritis
09-03-2016, 08:54 PM
Of course while revenue was doubling the economy as well as the deficits were tripling in size.

I encourage you to do two things:

1. Read David Stockman's "the triumph of politics" to learn the truth in detail about reagan, taxes, and budgets.

I read his book. You won't find the truth in there. Well, you might but only if you wrote the truth in the margins.

I still have it. I will skim it after this book launch is over in a couple of weeks.

MisterVeritis
09-03-2016, 08:56 PM
Hillary is also uniquely skilled to survive the republican enslaught. No other democrat could have done so. That is 100% the reason I have backed her from the beginning.
I am sure corruption has nothing to do with your stance.

birddog
09-03-2016, 09:34 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/hispanic-trump-surrogates-reconsider-support

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/mexican-president-enrique-pe-nieto-trump-we-will-never-pay-n641736&ved=0ahUKEwipxvjZ8_HOAhWFOSYKHTBtD4kQqG8IHTAB&usg=AFQjCNHQg4Sl3Lf9Ek2LXjqdCncDdW6sbg

He lied about the wall and got called on it by a foreign president. Later that night, he was so out of the mainstream that he lost most of his hispanic surrogates.

Jmho: Trump and his frustrated party are doomed.


Your thoughts?

Lies and innuendos are typical of libtards like you! Sad! :sad::rollseyes:

Bethere
09-03-2016, 09:45 PM
Lies and innuendos are typical of libtards like you! Sad! :sad::rollseyes:

Tell me. What is so funny about mental retardation? You described yourself as a Christian yesterday.


I am an Evangelical, and most people I know who also are Evangelicals, are Trump supporters. Hillary, the corrupt liar and abortion lover, is not as attractive as Trump.

"And the King will say, 'I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!'

Dr. Who
09-03-2016, 09:52 PM
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Bethere
09-03-2016, 09:58 PM
I read his book. You won't find the truth in there. Well, you might but only if you wrote the truth in the margins.

I still have it. I will skim it after this book launch is over in a couple of weeks.

I understand that you don't like the truth, but the author was Reagan's director of management and budget, not some Democrat trying to smear the president and make a quick buck.

Bethere
09-03-2016, 10:01 PM
I am sure corruption has nothing to do with your stance.

Any democrat would have been painted falsely in much the same way. For example, your doomed party portrays obama as someone evil out to destroy democracy when most people view him as a humble accomplished Christian who somehow managed to raise a family in the white house against impossible odds.

Hillary, the veteran of 30 years of slanderous false attacks, was the perfect candidate to weather the Republican shit storm.

OGIS
09-03-2016, 10:10 PM
Incorrect. If interest rates return to their historic averages the cost to service our debt will crowd out most discretionary spending.

I know, math is hard.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Faintiawomanblog.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fmath-is-hard.jpg&f=1

denigrating another member, therefore bad faith. reported.

OGIS
09-03-2016, 10:12 PM
Lies and innuendos are typical of libtards like you! Sad! :sad::rollseyes:

denigration of another member, therefore bad faith. reported.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 12:17 AM
denigration of another member, therefore bad faith. reported.

Donald 1:19 "Do unto others before they do unto you. "

16038

Chris
09-04-2016, 09:22 AM
Discuss topic and not each other.

Bethere
09-05-2016, 12:15 PM
As we saw with the Brexit vote the world has changed.

The old right v left paradigm is no longer controlling. It is nationalism v. globalism. We all are going to have to adjust to this new reality.

This election is not about brexit, nationalism, or the status quo. It's about the gop and their insuitability to govern.

decedent
09-05-2016, 01:19 PM
Trump's Mexico visit was a disaster that resulted in a feud between him and the Mexican President.

TrueBlue
09-05-2016, 02:17 PM
Any democrat would have been painted falsely in much the same way. For example, your doomed party portrays obama as someone evil out to destroy democracy when most people view him as a humble accomplished Christian who somehow managed to raise a family in the white house against impossible odds.

Hillary, the veteran of 30 years of slanderous false attacks, was the perfect candidate to weather the Republican shit storm.
As one very famous network news commentator used to say: "And that's the way it is!"

Bethere
09-05-2016, 04:31 PM
As one very famous network news commentator used to say: "And that's the way it is!"


Uncle walter wouldn't even recognize what has become of the gop.

Bethere
09-06-2016, 03:09 AM
Those liberals led by Tip Oneal couldn't resist spending the extra revenues. Money burns a hole in the pockets of liberal politicians.

Actually, just as we did with Bush I, we made Reagan beg to raise taxes.

That's not how you remember it, but that is exactly what happened. When push came to shove Reagan couldn't make the hard choices. He couldn't hurt the people that mean Republicans elected him to hurt.

Good times. Your hero was a bleeding heart wussy.

Ever hear the story about the little boy digging through a mound of dung who said, "I know there's a pony in here someplace!"

That's a story david stockman told of ronald reagan in his book, "the triumph of politics. "

You should read it.

Tahuyaman
09-06-2016, 09:02 AM
Lol.....