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Bethere
09-04-2016, 04:26 PM
Of all of Donald Trump’s controversies from the early summer, the one about Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (R) was one of the toughest to explain away. As wediscussed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-u-scandal-gets-worse-floridas-ag) a few months ago, the Republican A.G. briefly considered joining a multi-state suit against “Trump University,” but Bondi dropped the investigation (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/state-attorneys-general-get-caught-trump-u-scandal) after the Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution towards her re-election campaign.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw)

FindersKeepers
09-04-2016, 05:29 PM
Of all of Donald Trump’s controversies from the early summer, the one about Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (R) was one of the toughest to explain away. As wediscussed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-u-scandal-gets-worse-floridas-ag) a few months ago, the Republican A.G. briefly considered joining a multi-state suit against “Trump University,” but Bondi dropped the investigation (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/state-attorneys-general-get-caught-trump-u-scandal) after the Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution towards her re-election campaign.
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw)

It's not uncommon for businesses to take deductions in "gray areas" that are later, during an audit, disallowed by the IRS.

AZ Jim
09-04-2016, 05:39 PM
It's not uncommon for businesses to take deductions in "gray areas" that are later, during an audit, disallowed by the IRS.Please. I was a fucking BRIBE!!!! Wake the hell up.

birddog
09-04-2016, 05:44 PM
Of all of Donald Trump’s controversies from the early summer, the one about Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (R) was one of the toughest to explain away. As wediscussed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-u-scandal-gets-worse-floridas-ag) a few months ago, the Republican A.G. briefly considered joining a multi-state suit against “Trump University,” but Bondi dropped the investigation (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/state-attorneys-general-get-caught-trump-u-scandal) after the Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution towards her re-election campaign.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw)

I doubt if the donation was a bribe. If it was, it would be about .1% as bad as the corruption the Clintons have been involved in, especially with their Foundation.

Docthehun
09-04-2016, 05:49 PM
It's not uncommon for businesses to take deductions in "gray areas" that are later, during an audit, disallowed by the IRS.

That would be true. Gray has far more colors than any other in the spectrum. Some so deep you'd swear they were black when compared to white.

Docthehun
09-04-2016, 05:51 PM
I doubt if the donation was a bribe. If it was, it would be about .1% as bad as the corruption the Clintons have been involved in, especially with their Foundation.

Oh please! Jesus, I'm sure would agree.

Docthehun
09-04-2016, 05:52 PM
Of all of Donald Trump’s controversies from the early summer, the one about Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (R) was one of the toughest to explain away. As wediscussed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-u-scandal-gets-worse-floridas-ag) a few months ago, the Republican A.G. briefly considered joining a multi-state suit against “Trump University,” but Bondi dropped the investigation (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/state-attorneys-general-get-caught-trump-u-scandal) after the Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution towards her re-election campaign.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pays-irs-penalty-following-controversial-donation&ved=0ahUKEwjOy4r50vbOAhXCeSYKHSTqBaMQqG8IIjAB&usg=AFQjCNFB1cj5dQu4fttc9HRXStHSba5Xqw)

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 05:54 PM
Please. I was a $#@!ing BRIBE!!!! Wake the hell up.

Yep. By trump's own definition it was a bribe. Look up his reaction to the ny attorney general's decision.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 05:56 PM
Nothing to see here. Move along.

Bribery is cool if you are a Republican... or what passes as an 'independent' at tPF.

Peter1469
09-04-2016, 06:04 PM
This partisan IRS is likely not treating Trump as it treats normal citizens. They have already had their budget significantly slashed by a bipartisan Congress for unlawfully targeting conservative organizations. Slash it all away.

Ravens Fan
09-04-2016, 06:06 PM
Bribery is cool if you are a Republican... or what passes as an 'independent' at tPF.

Those who live in glass houses (Clinton camp) shouldn't throw stones... Just sayin'


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Bethere
09-04-2016, 06:06 PM
This partisan IRS is likely not treating Trump as it treats normal citizens. They have already had their budget significantly slashed by a bipartisan Congress for unlawfully targeting conservative organizations. Slash it all away.

I am afraid to respond to your post.

Peter1469
09-04-2016, 06:07 PM
I am afraid to respond to your post.

No loss.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 06:11 PM
No loss.

Without a handful of posters like me this forum becomes a place where republicans and 'libertarians' sit around in a circle and tell each other how neato you are.

Docthehun
09-04-2016, 06:12 PM
This partisan IRS is likely not treating Trump as it treats normal citizens. They have already had their budget significantly slashed by a bipartisan Congress for unlawfully targeting conservative organizations. Slash it all away.

Just the fact that he gets audited every year tells you a lot about his returns. The IRS chases the money and apparently Trump is "gray" enough to warrant an annual audit. You don't suppose it's a trust issue, do you?

Peter1469
09-04-2016, 06:13 PM
Without a handful of posters like me this forum becomes a place where republicans and 'libertarians' sit around in a circle and tell each other how neato you are.

Don't put so much importance on your self. The Forum is pretty balanced.

Ravens Fan
09-04-2016, 06:14 PM
Without a handful of posters like me this forum becomes a place where republicans and 'libertarians' sit around in a circle and tell each other how neato you are.

As Peter would say, this is what our grandmothers would call a lie.


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Peter1469
09-04-2016, 06:14 PM
Just the fact that he gets audited every year tells you a lot about his returns. The IRS chases the money and apparently Trump is "gray" enough to warrant an annual audit. You don't suppose it's a trust issue, do you?

The IRS is known to target people for political reasons. As I said above, that is why they had their budget slashed by a bipartisan Congress. We should eliminate the entire department. It is hopelessly corrupt.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 06:15 PM
Don't put so much importance on your self. The Forum is pretty balanced.

The forum poll says otherwise. 9 hillary supporters to 40 others--even though in real life hillary is setting up a landslide election.

Docthehun
09-04-2016, 06:15 PM
Without a handful of posters like me this forum becomes a place where republicans and 'libertarians' sit around in a circle and tell each other how neato you are.

It simply would be no fun without your team. I think we'd sit around and bitch about how all of you caused us to lose again.

Ravens Fan
09-04-2016, 06:16 PM
The forum poll says otherwise. 9 hillary supporters to 40 others.

With over 140 active members, that means nothing...


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Docthehun
09-04-2016, 06:19 PM
The IRS is known to target people for political reasons. As I said above, that is why they had their budget slashed by a bipartisan Congress. We should eliminate the entire department. It is hopelessly corrupt.

Well, you understand there might be a rebellion within your chosen professional field over the notion of eliminating a "gravy train" of fees.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 06:20 PM
With over 140 active members, that means nothing...


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Yeah, my bad. Hillary is a criminal, we have you outnumbered, trump is winning, and obama is from Kenya.

Pass the ky jelly, please.

Peter1469
09-04-2016, 06:27 PM
The forum poll says otherwise. 9 hillary supporters to 40 others--even though in real life hillary is setting up a landslide election.

Many don't support either of the two utterly and complete parties.

Like you do....

hanger4
09-04-2016, 06:27 PM
Please. I was a fucking BRIBE!!!! Wake the hell up.

I take it you're privy to all the Florida DA's evidence concerning the case ??

Bethere
09-04-2016, 06:32 PM
I take it you're privy to all the Florida DA's evidence concerning the case ??

The same thing happened in texas.

AZ Jim
09-04-2016, 06:35 PM
I take it you're privy to all the Florida DA's evidence concerning the case ??What are you in love with me? No matter where you see me, there you are. You are wasting your time dude, I am straight. Now run along.

Bethere
09-04-2016, 06:36 PM
What are you in love with me? No matter where you see me, there you are. You are wasting your time dude, I am straight. Now run along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkn1kFmUW5E

hanger4
09-04-2016, 06:36 PM
The forum poll says otherwise. 9 hillary supporters to 40 others--even though in real life hillary is setting up a landslide election.

Been debunked or in your case explained.

hanger4
09-04-2016, 06:40 PM
It simply would be no fun without your team. I think we'd sit around and bitch about how all of you caused us to lose again.

We were doing just fine before the team arrived.

hanger4
09-04-2016, 06:45 PM
What are you in love with me? No matter where you see me, there you are. You are wasting your time dude, I am straight. Now run along.

Don't flatter yourself jimbo. Are you going to answer the question ?? or run away via ad hom ??

Ravens Fan
09-04-2016, 07:46 PM
Yeah, my bad. Hillary is a criminal, we have you outnumbered, trump is winning, and obama is from Kenya.

Pass the ky jelly, please.

Wtf is that supposed to mean? I mean really?

Was that last statement meant against me as a gay male? Rather concerning considering your type claims to be in support
of my sexual persuasion...


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del
09-04-2016, 07:49 PM
It's not uncommon for businesses to take deductions in "gray areas" that are later, during an audit, disallowed by the IRS.

it is kind of unusual for attorneys general to drop cases against entities after receiving donations from their owners, though.

it's probably also kind of unusual to try to take a tax write off on a bribe, now that i think of it.

decedent
09-04-2016, 07:54 PM
There's nothing sketchy about a prosecutor dropping an investigation into Trump after he gave her $25,000.

Let's focus on really important stuff, like whether an email had a "C" in its subject.

del
09-04-2016, 07:58 PM
this thread is taking up valuable space that could be used for hillary's emails.

for shame

zelmo1234
09-04-2016, 08:17 PM
Please. I was a $#@!ing BRIBE!!!! Wake the hell up.

Actually I agree with you, it looks like a Bribe, Smells like a Bribe and Taste like a Bribe?

So I certainly think that it needs looking into.

It almost Reminds me of something? I can't Quite place it? OH! I know

There are these large Donations to this Charity, and Then Shortly after the Donation, there is a Favorable Ruling By the State Department, and then shortly after that Ruling by the State Department, these Nations and Multinational Corporations Hired this lady's Husband to do a Speech and paid him up to 10 times his going rate?

If only I could remember the name of the Charity?????? Think-Think-Think???

OH! It was the CLINTON FOUNDATION!!!!!!!

You Fucking Hypocrites!!!!!!

zelmo1234
09-04-2016, 08:19 PM
I doubt if the donation was a bribe. If it was, it would be about .1% as bad as the corruption the Clintons have been involved in, especially with their Foundation.

Stop it, You have to be consistent. If you don't think this looks and smells like a Bribe, then you have NO business questioning any of the dealing with the Clinton Foundation.

It might be a much smaller amount, but it still looks like pay to play.

zelmo1234
09-04-2016, 08:21 PM
Without a handful of posters like me this forum becomes a place where republicans and 'libertarians' sit around in a circle and tell each other how neato you are.

Well I will say, with posters like you around it sure reduces the intellectual content of the threads. So you have that going for you???

zelmo1234
09-04-2016, 08:24 PM
What are you in love with me? No matter where you see me, there you are. You are wasting your time dude, I am straight. Now run along.

Why do you post this crap?

zelmo1234
09-04-2016, 08:27 PM
It would be interesting to know if there were ever conversations it either the Clinton Cash, or the Trump Legal Action.

Or if the people just made donations, hoping that it would bring a favorable outcome. Not that it makes it right in either case, but Trump did say when he started running, that he had bought many politicians. Why would Prosecutors and Judges be any different.

Bethere
09-05-2016, 12:49 AM
Wtf is that supposed to mean? I mean really?

Was that last statement meant against me as a gay male? Rather concerning considering your type claims to be in support
of my sexual persuasion...


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Seriously, I don't know what to say. I am bethere. Usually I know exactly what to say.

I have issues with you being a Republican. I have issues with you being a ravens fan. I at times have issues with your overblown rhetoric.

But I have no issues with your being gay.

I actually did not know. I hope it wasn't some closely held secret!

My gf and I beleve ky is great for reducing friction.

Let your imagination run wild.

FindersKeepers
09-05-2016, 04:14 AM
That would be true. Gray has far more colors than any other in the spectrum. Some so deep you'd swear they were black when compared to white.

But of course. That's the nature of the game.

FindersKeepers
09-05-2016, 04:22 AM
Please. I was a $#@!ing BRIBE!!!! Wake the hell up.


Do you really think it was any different from any donation made to an entity such as that? Do you really think all those big companies making donations don't hope for a little something in return?

Any decent accountant will classify that payment as a deduction for tax purposes, and later, when the business is audited, the IRS might or might not allow the deduction.

It's unlikely Trump personally approved the payment, much less was aware how it was posted in his business' books.

When a business is that big, the owner rarely handles the day-to-day grunge.

You might not like that -- but it's true. Many little decisions made in a company that size will never rise to the level of getting the owner's attention.

FindersKeepers
09-05-2016, 04:28 AM
it is kind of unusual for attorneys general to drop cases against entities after receiving donations from their owners, though.

it's probably also kind of unusual to try to take a tax write off on a bribe, now that i think of it.


To be fair -- the Attorney General never was a part of the case. She briefly considered it and rejected it.

Did the "donation" make a difference?

Maybe.

hanger4
09-05-2016, 06:50 AM
To be fair -- the Attorney General never was a part of the case. She briefly considered it and rejected it.

Did the "donation" make a difference?

Maybe.

Without knowing the particulars of the case in Florida, claiming a Trump bribe is speculation without merit.

Safety
09-05-2016, 10:04 AM
Actually I agree with you, it looks like a Bribe, Smells like a Bribe and Taste like a Bribe?

So I certainly think that it needs looking into.

It almost Reminds me of something? I can't Quite place it? OH! I know

There are these large Donations to this Charity, and Then Shortly after the Donation, there is a Favorable Ruling By the State Department, and then shortly after that Ruling by the State Department, these Nations and Multinational Corporations Hired this lady's Husband to do a Speech and paid him up to 10 times his going rate?

If only I could remember the name of the Charity?????? Think-Think-Think???

OH! It was the CLINTON FOUNDATION!!!!!!!

You Fucking Hypocrites!!!!!!

So, it's ok because the other side does it?

Bethere
09-05-2016, 12:06 PM
Without knowing the particulars of the case in Florida, claiming a Trump bribe is speculation without merit.

And yet you speculate your ass off about Hillary. You are, in every way, a Republican.

zelmo1234
09-05-2016, 12:11 PM
So, it's ok because the other side does it?

That is kind of putting words in my mouth and I don't think that becomes you

If you would have read the post you will notice that I called for an investigation, or looking into it. Why? Because it is wrong.

However we have a bunch of Hillary Supporters that are calling for the people to stop looking into the Clinton Foundation and Hillary's emails, and there is as much or more evidence that the Clintons were running a pay for play operation out of the State Dept.

I am saying that they both should be hauled before congress, Slick Willie too.

del
09-05-2016, 12:14 PM
To be fair -- the Attorney General never was a part of the case. She briefly considered it and rejected it.

Did the "donation" make a difference?

Maybe.

did the sun come up in the east this morning?

maybe

Peter1469
09-05-2016, 02:09 PM
And yet you speculate your ass off about Hillary. You are, in every way, a Republican.

Those two sentences lack a logical connection.

Bethere
09-05-2016, 04:22 PM
Those two sentences lack a logical connection.

Of course they have a logical connection.

You missed the logical connection.

You are a Republican.

Peter1469
09-05-2016, 04:24 PM
Of course they have a logical connection.

You missed the logical connection.

You are a Republican.

Why do you think that I am a republican?

I loath both mainstream parties.

Bethere
09-05-2016, 05:17 PM
Why do you think that I am a republican?

I loath both mainstream parties.

That's what you say, but your actions say otherwise. If I could trust you things might be different. But your word sucks.

Peter1469
09-05-2016, 05:19 PM
That's what you say, but your actions say otherwise. If I could trust you things might be different. But your word sucks.


I think that you are a liar and a troll. Remember that.

Bethere
09-05-2016, 05:20 PM
I think that you are a liar and a troll. Remember that.

Are you going to cry?

hanger4
09-05-2016, 05:23 PM
And yet you speculate your ass off about Hillary. You are, in every way, a Republican.

Tons and tons of evidence concerning Hillary, little to no evidence as of now concerning Trump U.

So no, to Clinton speculation.

Don
09-05-2016, 05:25 PM
I look at it like businessmen having to pay bribes to organized crime as a way to do any kind of business in NYC and probably every other really large city in the country. They are there and everyone knows it. Government has turned into just another layer of organized crime. Everybody has to pay to play. Its wrong and something should be done about it but just pointing out people you don't like that are involved in it is not the way to fix it. It just makes you a part of the problem.

Bethere
09-06-2016, 03:03 AM
Tons and tons of evidence concerning Hillary, little to no evidence as of now concerning Trump U.

So no, to Clinton speculation.

For trump there's enough evidence to go to trial.

Good times.

Meanwhile, the fbi says no reasonable prosecutor would touch the Clinton case.