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Common
09-06-2016, 05:19 AM
ISIS in Mosul, Iraq has reportedly (http://ifpnews.com/news/world/middle-east/2016/09/women-banned-wearing-burqa-entering-isis-security-centres/) banned the face-covering burqa veil in security and military centers due to safety concerns. While the burka is mandatory in other parts of the city, ISIS has prohibited the veils after a number of insurgents were killed by women wearing burqas to disguise themselves.

According to a report by Al Alam News Network, as translated by IFP, within the past two years, the ISIS used to force women in Iraq and Syria to wear burqa and niqab; however, now the group has no choice but to prevent women with burqa from entering its security centres.
A local source in the Iraqi province of Nineveh announced on Friday, September 2, that the terrorist group has released an order, based on which no woman is allowed to be wearing niqab or burqa when entering the security and military centres.
Over in Europe, France has banned the burqa (and other religious symbols) from being worn in public, and women in parts of Switzerland who wear a burqa in public are subject to fines. Austria recently ruled (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/07/12/austrian-supreme-court-rules-burka-ban-is-legal-n2191639) that an employer has the right to prohibit an employee from wearing a burqa on the job, and nearly two-thirds (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/08/31/nearly-two-thirds-of-germans-support-a-burqa-ban-n2212080) of Germans want a ban of the garment.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/09/05/hmm-look-who-just-banned-the-burqa-n2214130

waltky
09-06-2016, 05:57 AM
So what yer sayin' is...

... the burqa is a...

... burqa-boo fer ISIS?

FindersKeepers
09-06-2016, 06:10 AM
This was bound to happen.

The burqa offers concealment, which will be taken advantage of by those who wish to get close enough to harm their enemies.

It might only be happening to ISIS at present, but one day it will happen in the western world. Then, it'll be copied over and over until face concealment is public is banned.

waltky
09-06-2016, 07:19 AM
If we go into another mini ice age...

... a burqa may be just the thing to wear...

... to keep warm.

Common
09-06-2016, 07:20 AM
hm, this is a bit weird to me

Everything about isis is weird

Common
09-06-2016, 07:22 AM
This was bound to happen.

The burqa offers concealment, which will be taken advantage of by those who wish to get close enough to harm their enemies.

It might only be happening to ISIS at present, but one day it will happen in the western world. Then, it'll be copied over and over until face concealment is public is banned.

Its already happening in the western world, france banned burqas. Israel had a burqa problem going back decades.

Easy for a male to hide behind a burga. That aside you dont need a burqa to commit an act of terrorism

Peter1469
09-06-2016, 03:01 PM
Heard rumors that the SAS did several successful missions burkaed up.

Mac-7
09-06-2016, 03:04 PM
I assume liberals in America will defend the right of muslims here to wear those things

waltky
05-17-2017, 03:41 PM
Austria too...
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif Austrian Parliament passes burqa ban
May 17, 2017 - Austria's parliament voted to ban women from wearing full face coverings in public, part of a package of reforms aimed at integrating Muslim asylum seekers.


In addition, those seeking permanent residence in Austria will be required to attend a series of classes aimed at helping them integrate into Austrian society. Topics to be covered include observing social norms, learning the language and applying for jobs. Migrants who do not attend would see their government stipend reduced.


http://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/1541495044966/2017/1/4f46cacc1d913764b9c65ba3dfa0d29d/Austrian-Parliament-passes-burqa-ban.jpg
A woman wears a burqa while attending a tour of the Notre Dame cathedral in France. Like France, Austria on Tuesday passed a ban on religious head dresses that fully cover a woman's face

The changes, voted upon Tuesday, are part of the Austrian government's efforts to stem the tide of support for the country's far-right opposition amid turmoil in the ruling government coalition, which has fractured over other matters, prompting a snap election to be called.

It was not immediately clear how many people would be affected by the ban on burqas, nijabs and other religious face coverings. Violators would be subject to a $166 fine.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2017/05/17/Austrian-Parliament-passes-burqa-ban/1541495044966/?utm_source=sec&utm_campaign=sl&utm_medium=4

waltky
06-11-2017, 01:21 AM
Uncle Ferd is wary o' women in burqa's - he suspects dey spank too hard...
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Mosul Burqa Ban Unveils Militants in Hiding
June 10, 2017 — “At first, I didn’t want to take off the veil at the checkpoint,” said Dhoa, 32, cuddling her infant daughter to her chest. “But then after soldiers told me to remove it a few times, I thought: Why bother wearing it at all?”


Since Iraqi forces recaptured this part of Mosul in November, the military has encouraged women not to wear veils that cover their faces because Islamic State militants are hiding among them dressed as women. Less than two weeks ago, the ban became official, and soldiers spread the word on the streets that burqas are no longer allowed.


https://gdb.voanews.com/8971E8FA-C882-484F-942C-39DCCE1BC881_w650_r0_s.jpg
Safana, 29, still wears a veil despite the ban, removing it only at military checkpoints, in Mosul, Iraq

IS militants in women’s veils, wearing suicide vests and moving among refugees fleeing the city, have been caught approaching Iraqi forces.The Iraqi forces also are searching for militants who have stopped fighting and are lying in wait as “sleeper cells.” “They wear women’s clothes outside and when people figure out they are men in hiding, they move to a different neighborhood,” said Hassan Bashar Abbass, a fighter in the Iraqi forces’ SWAT unit. “Just a few weeks ago we arrested two militants in veils over there,” he added, pointing across the street.

Cautious support

Many locals support the ban, saying it is a welcome safety precaution as suicide bombers continue to target eastern Mosul and IS militants flee Iraqi forces in western Mosul. When asked about the measure by VOA, most respond, “It’s better.” But some, like Dhoa, are more cautious, saying they abandoned their veils in support of Iraqi forces, which currently have strong positive relations with the Mosul population. If things go back to the way they were before IS, though, when the military and the population lived in deep distrust, some say dress codes dictating how they honor their faith will be as unwelcome as IS draconian rules. “It’s a personal private freedom to wear or to not wear a veil,” said Dhoa. “This interferes with that choice a little bit. But we also want to be safe. So it’s good and bad.”

Rebellion

One of Dhoa’s sisters-in-law, Farah, 26, cast off her burqa before the ban became formal, having worn it only to avoid punishment from IS. Like many Mosul residents, she now dislikes face veils because the militants liked them. “When we were liberated, the Iraqi army told us to take off the burqas. At first it was strange and some husbands didn’t approve,” she said. “But women encouraged each other in the first two months,” added her sister, Zainab, 40. “We would say, ‘Why are you still wearing this?’ ”

MORE (https://www.voanews.com/a/mosul-burqa-militants-in-hiding/3895132.html)

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Anti-Sharia Rallies Draw Counterprotesters in Cities Across the US
June 10, 2017 - Competing protests took place in several cities across the United States Saturday between groups saying they are protesting Sharia and groups saying they are protesting discrimination against Muslims.


The “anti-Sharia” protesters were organized by a group called ACT for America, a President Donald Trump-aligned organization that says it protects free speech and defends traditional American values. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, says ACT is the nation’s largest anti-Muslim group. According to a Washington Post report, about three dozen ACT protesters, some dressed in fatigues and carrying American flags, gathered in downtown New York City. Pax Hart, who organized the Manhattan rally, told a reporter that if someone feels unsafe walking around in a Muslim headscarf, “try being a conservative on a college campus.”


https://gdb.voanews.com/32ACF193-959C-42C9-A081-535623FC8448_w650_r0_s.jpg
Counter demonstrators opposing a group who gathered across the street to protest against Islamic law, hold signs, June 10, 2017, in New York.

Among the people gathered at the anti-Sharia protest were Trump supporters; self-identified “Oath Keepers,” an anti-government group; and tidily dressed young men who identified themselves as members of the “alt-right,” a white nationalist movement. Across the street, a few hundred people gathered with banners reading “Fascists out of NYC.” Police officers and barricades stood between the two groups.

More than 20 cities

Similar faceoffs took place in more than 20 cities across the nation: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; Chicago, Illinois; Austin, Texas; and San Bernardino, California, where in 2015 a husband and wife inspired by Islamic State killed 14 people and wounded 22 others in a shooting spree. “There are radicals out there,” an ACT for America supporter in San Bernardino, Denise Zamora, told a local television reporter. “People are saying that we’re against Muslims. No, Muslims are attacking other Muslims, and we’re bringing in these refugees that have the same ideologies.” So far, no violence has been reported at any of the demonstrations. But the Southern Poverty Law Center has noted that ACT for America rallies tend to attract a broad range of far-right extremists and anti-government activists.


https://gdb.voanews.com/63099F8A-F06D-4823-A6FD-718DA2EAEBE1_w650_r0_s.jpg
Cathy Camper, of Tacoma, Wash., wears a stars-and-stripes cowboy hat as she protests against Islamic law at a rally, June 10, 2017, in Seattle, as counter-protesters demonstrate across the street.

The group canceled a rally scheduled for Saturday in Batesville, Arkansas, after it was revealed that the organizer was a prominent neo-Nazi, Billy Roper. In San Bernardino, police spokeswoman Eileen Hards told a reporter, “There’s an anti-Trump, a pro-Trump, anti-extremists, so there are a variety of messages here. “There are so many messages going on that I’m not sure who’s who,” Hards added.

https://www.voanews.com/a/anti-sharia-rallies-draw-counter-protesters-in-us/3895539.html