Does Barack Obama really want to be president?

[Chris]

From a disappointed liberal at WaPo: Does Barack Obama really want to be president? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/10/05/obama/?wprss=rss_politics)
Seeing our president hanging out at podiums in Charlotte and now Denver, his famous competitiveness nowhere to be seen, has left me with a question I wish I didn’t have: Does Barack Obama really want to be president?

Seeing our president hanging out at podiums in Charlotte and now Denver, his famous competitiveness nowhere to be seen, has left me with a question I wish I didn’t have: Does Barack Obama really want to be president?

...Anyone can have an off night or two, of course. Obama’s last couple of major outings, though, were so lacking in oomph that he seemed weary of going on....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlaF16gLF4

[birddog]

Obama is such an arrogant ass that I'm sure he thinks he deserves being reelected. That said, he's a lazy bastard that would probably like to play more golf. :smiley:

[Peter1469]

No. He is lazy. The only thing he really likes is campaigning. Governance is a heavy burden that he does not enjoy. Because of this I thought that he would not run this year. And I posted that here and other places. But it looks like he is going passive aggressive: he is just going to through in the towel and lose.

[patrickt]

Gee, I don't know. Do any of the Castros want to be dictator of Cuba? Does Hugo Chavez want to rule Venezuela? Does Abbas want to abandon Hamas because he's four years overdue for an election? Does Vladimir Putin want to be the next Stalin? Does President Obama want to make kissy face with Castro, Chavez, Abbas, and Putin. Oh, and does the guy running Iran want to peacefully coexist with Israel?

Get real. President Obama will lie, cheat, and steal to get re-elected.

[The Little Dictator]

I think he really wants to be UN Sec. Gen. After all, he's already said that he's a citizen of the world. What better way to go then to RULE the world?

[roadmaster]

He knows he has made some bad decisions and lost a lot of independent votes. People are putting too much faith in our leaders. Have to admit this does concern me whoever wins.

[Deadwood]

Of course he wants to be president. At the very least it saves him a fortune in greens fees.

If he didn't he would have pulled a Lyndon Johnson and stepped aside.

But his campaign is a horrendous mess. I get the feeling they thought it was going to be a walk in the park and that he would coast to power on the backs of his adoring fans. My impression is that the his campaign team is surprised at how soft is the support and how they are languishing against a guy they should be clobbering.

I have said from the beginning he should have a 5% to 15% lead based on the Presidential Seal and the pomp and circumstance, Air Force One and all that.

Frankly, I think they are scrambling trying to find some traction. The best they've had so far is the 47% and while the media and the ads have hammered away at it, Romney's numbers remain strong.

They're in trouble and, from the performance we saw Wednesday night, I think they're panicked.

[Deadwood]

I think he really wants to be UN Sec. Gen. After all, he's already said that he's a citizen of the world. What better way to go then to RULE the world?

Hmmmm


You may have a point. But, I have to ask, would he be a front runner after winning a second term, or having been tromped by a lightweight like Romney?

I suggest that if he wanted that job, he would have lobbied it during his presidency and stepped aside instead of running a lackluster campaign.

He wants the Oval Office, he may want to be king of the world, but SG of the UN is kind of a nowhere to go job that most Americans think is stupid and boring.


No, I think he wants the mega $ for speaking engagements - he can probably demand double what Clinton is getting per speech, which I hear is in six figures.

[Chris]

I doubt Obama knows what it means to be President, actually.

To me the important point is his fellow travelers are beginning to doubt him.

[birddog]

Hopefully, Romney will win. At least he looks and acts presidential. We won't be ashamed of his lack of patriotism, he won't be bowing to the Saudias, and he will tend to his duties even if we don't agree totally with everthing he does.

[truthmatters]

you live in a bubble full of lies

[birddog]

Keep talking to yourself.

[Carygrant]

you live in a bubble full of lies


They are a very narrow thinking band of Extremists and only representative of them selves .
I cannot think of any Extremist Group which has had high IQ members --- they spout fixed character attitudes , not facts .

[shaarona]

No. He is lazy. The only thing he really likes is campaigning. Governance is a heavy burden that he does not enjoy. Because of this I thought that he would not run this year. And I posted that here and other places. But it looks like he is going passive aggressive: he is just going to through in the towel and lose.

You could be right.... Something sure is wrong.

[patrickt]

He knows he has made some bad decisions and lost a lot of independent votes. People are putting too much faith in our leaders. Have to admit this does concern me whoever wins.

I just ordered Lee Iacocca's new book, "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?" I thought Mr. Iacocca was dead but apparently not.

But, for lacking leadership, the fool who proudly announces he leads from behind takes the cake.

[truthmatters]

dear republicans,


just wait until you REALLY know why Obama was playing rope a dope with robmoney

[Trinnity]

dear republicans,


just wait until you REALLY know why Obama was playing rope a dope with robmoneyThen just tell us. I can't wait.

[truthmatters]

yes you can.

enjoy the wait

[truthmatters]

Unless of course I am unable to tell you later

[Peter1469]

dear republicans,


just wait until you REALLY know why Obama was playing rope a dope with robmoney

Are you a news reporter in your day job?

[truthmatters]

No I have no job.

I do have a brain that works quite well at figuring these things out.

Hell I already proved I predicted the crash

[Peter1469]

No I have no job.

I do have a brain that works quite well at figuring these things out.

Hell I already proved I predicted the crash

Should Greece exit the Eurozone?

[shaarona]

No I have no job.

I do have a brain that works quite well at figuring these things out.

Hell I already proved I predicted the crash

Many of us saw this coming by 2002.

[Peter1469]

Many of us saw this coming by 2002.

In 2002 my boss was telling us to buy real estate- best investment ever. It will never go down. I laughed at him.

[truthmatters]

Many of us saw this coming by 2002.



good fro you do you have Proof you did?

[truthmatters]

In 2002 my boss was telling us to buy real estate- best investment ever. It will never go down. I laughed at him.

so you saw it coming too?

proof please

[shaarona]

good fro you do you have Proof you did?

The fortune 500s had hiring freezes and were downsizing people... plus, the housing market was going thru the roof. Anyone except for an idiot could see what was happening.

[shaarona]

In 2002 my boss was telling us to buy real estate- best investment ever. It will never go down. I laughed at him.

It was ridiculous... We went from the dot com feeding frenzy to the housing frenzy..

Homeowners had no skin in the game.. It had to collapse. My son's house went from $250K to $875K in a couple of years... I said get out NOW..

[truthmatters]

home owners had no skin in the game?


they lost their homes

[truthmatters]

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2007/2007-190.htm



Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities BrokersEight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be ImplementedFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

[shaarona]

home owners had no skin in the game?


they lost their homes

Poor lending practices.. Everyone knows you never spend more than 25% to 30% of your income on mortgage payments. No money down loans? Purely reckless...

[truthmatters]

This made it so the banks could sell their bad loans to unsupecting sercurities buyers

[birddog]

This made it so the banks could sell their bad loans to unsupecting sercurities buyers

Yeah, that was forced by Clinton in 1997, and was a key reason for later economic woes. Dodd and Frank further exacerbated the problem.

[truthmatters]

The economists done agree with your partisan take in the issue

[shaarona]

Yeah, that was forced by Clinton in 1997, and was a key reason for later economic woes. Dodd and Frank further exacerbated the problem.

"We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

[truthmatters]

they cant see any facts

they can only see fox propaganda

[shaarona]

Bush: the housing president.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

[truthmatters]

I wish they would start putting country first instead of party first

[birddog]

"We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

Encouraging it to happen and forcing it to happen as the dims did are two different things.

[birddog]

The economists done agree with your partisan take in the issue

You mean your few liberal ones.



You and the truth are far apart.

[shaarona]

Encouraging it to happen and forcing it to happen as the dims did are two different things.

Read the link I posted.

Facts matter.

[Deadwood]

They are a very narrow thinking band of Extremists and only representative of them selves .
I cannot think of any Extremist Group which has had high IQ members --- they spout fixed character attitudes , not facts .

Link?

[Deadwood]

you live in a bubble full of lies

Link?

[truthmatters]

You mean your few liberal ones.



You and the truth are far apart.


You are the kind of people who are distroying this country.

EVERYTHING to you is partisan.

It is what a steady diet of Fox has done to you

[Peter1469]

so you saw it coming too?

proof please

My word is proof enough. People know that I don't make stuff up....

[Peter1469]

It was ridiculous... We went from the dot com feeding frenzy to the housing frenzy..

Homeowners had no skin in the game.. It had to collapse. My son's house went from $250K to $875K in a couple of years... I said get out NOW..

Did he? That would have been a great time to take the money and run.

[Peter1469]

This made it so the banks could sell their bad loans to unsupecting sercurities buyers

Do you really think that securities buyers were were unsuspecting?

[shaarona]

Did he? That would have been a great time to take the money and run.


He put it on the market at 850K .. and I told him to get off the price and move it.. .. so he dropped it to 640K and sold.. Its valued currently at less than 270.

It was all hot air, not real money.. but so many young people.. and some not so young.. didn't know that.

[truthmatters]

Do you really think that securities buyers were were unsuspecting?



Are you not aware of the sacndals in that area?

[truthmatters]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/02/us-authorities-sue-banks-subprime


The New York Times said (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/business/us-is-set-to-sue-dozen-big-banks-over-mortgages.html?_r=1&hp)the FHFA is expected to file the lawsuit against the banks, including Bank of America, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank, as early as Friday. The agency, which is seeking billions of dollars in compensation, claims the banks failed to notice that borrowers were taking on mortgages that they could not afford.
The FHFA lawsuit, which follows a subpoena issued to the banks last year, demands that the banks pay compensation to cover some of the $30bn (£18.5bn) Fannie and Freddie lost on mortgage-backed securities. Most of Fannie and Freddie's losses were borne by US taxpayers after the government was forced to step in and bailout the pair to the tune of $141bn.
It follows a similar $900m lawsuit filed against Swiss bank UBS in July. At the time UBS said it would "vigorously" defend all charges brought against it.
In total the FHFA issued 64 subpoenas to the issuers and servicers of mortgage-backed securities last year. Last week the agency's director, Edward DeMarco, who declined to discuss the pending lawsuit, said there were "more to come". The banks declined to comment to the New York Times.

[Peter1469]

He put it on the market at 850K .. and I told him to get off the price and move it.. .. so he dropped it to 640K and sold.. Its valued currently at less than 270.

It was all hot air, not real money.. but so many young people.. and some not so young.. didn't know that.

Absolutely correct. At least he sold it.

[truthmatters]

Do you really think that securities buyers were were unsuspecting?


I just gave you clear court documented evidence that they were

[Peter1469]

Are you not aware of the sacndals in that area?

Of course I am. Who do you think you are talking to?

You do understand that these derivative backed securities came with certain warranties, representations, and certifications. There are several lawsuits over this. In effect, because the mortgage backed derivatives were essentially fraudulent, the buyers will get their money back and the big banks will collapse. Move your money into a local credit union. Now.

[truthmatters]

Then why did you ask if the buyers didnt know?

[Peter1469]

Then why did you ask if the buyers didnt know?

Heck, I think that they knew- they were just trying to time the market.

[truthmatters]

you didnt answer the question

[Calypso Jones]

no. He wants to be emperor.

[truthmatters]

stop being an insane partisan

[GrumpyDog]

http://robertfagan.com/files/2010/07/Clinton-Bushgolf-club.jpg

They all wind up laughing and playing golf together, not matter how much the country gets screwed.

[garyo]

And you consider yourself bi-partisan?

[bladimz]

Hopefully, Romney will win. At least he looks and acts presidential. We won't be ashamed of his lack of patriotism, he won't be bowing to the Saudias, and he will tend to his duties even if we don't agree totally with everthing he does.
I especially like the very real probability that he and Bibi will tag-team Iran within the first year of his presidency (if he does win). Now that's patriotism.

[bladimz]

Does he want to be President (again)? Heck, what's the best title for a socialistic, commie-loving, american-hating, anti-semitic, islamist racist? Whatever it is, that's what he wants to be. I'm sorry; i'm just a little grumpy right now. He was just here about an hour ago and ate my baby. You know... he said something about a satanic ritual and rushed out.

If only Mitt had been here...

[Chris]

I just ordered Lee Iacocca's new book, "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?" I thought Mr. Iacocca was dead but apparently not.

But, for lacking leadership, the fool who proudly announces he leads from behind takes the cake.

Leadership is something he wholly lacks. He's divisive, dishonest...

Trying to think of a word, but all that comes to me at the moment is he's a kind of troll.

[Chris]

dear republicans,


just wait until you REALLY know why Obama was playing rope a dope with robmoney

That conforms to what I just said, he's "playing", playing games. That's what trolls do, doncha know.