Why do some election officials want to hide evidence of non-citizens voting

[Peter1469]

Why do some election officials want to hide evidence of non-citizens voting? (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440580/arcan-cetin-voted-illegally-other-non-citizens-do-too)

Because most non-citizens vote (D) not (R)


Cetin, who is from Turkey, is a legal resident of the United States but not a citizen. In 2014, he registered to vote and voted three times, most recently in May’s presidential primary. Washington State, like all but a handful of states, doesn’t require any proof of citizenship. “Our hands are kind of tied,” Secretary of State Kim Wyman told a Seattle TV station, noting that the state doesn’t allow verification of a person’s citizenship for voting purposes. “But make no mistake,” she adds. “We want to make sure that everybody has confidence that people casting ballots are eligible. This is certainly going to be a topic at the next legislative session.” Local registrars can currently use a database to check the age and residence of people who register to vote, but a person’s claim to be a citizen is based on the honor system.

The problem is that not all non-citizens are honorable — or they may be led astray in being told they can vote. In our 2012 book Who’s Counting: How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk​, Hans von Spakovsky and I noted numerous cases of non-citizen registration and voting all over the country.

In 2014, a study released by three professors at Old Dominion University and George Mason University, based on survey data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, estimated that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted illegally in the 2008 presidential election and that 2.2 percent voted in the 2010 midterm congressional elections.

Since 80 percent of non-citizens vote Democratic, according to the study, non-citizen participation could have “been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes [in North Carolina in 2008], and congressional elections,” such as the 2008 race in Minnesota in which Al Franken was elected to the U.S. Senate, giving Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote to pass Obamacare.


Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440580/arcan-cetin-voted-illegally-other-non-citizens-do-too

Read more at the link.

[Common]

For democrat party benefit

[stjames1_53]

Why do some election officials want to hide evidence of non-citizens voting? (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440580/arcan-cetin-voted-illegally-other-non-citizens-do-too)

Because most non-citizens vote (D) not (R)



Read more at the link.

the Dems want to legalize that which they've been doing, illegally.............
That's why Obama did it, and Granny Cankles is doing it....pandering to the illegals giving them hope in return for their votes.
I wonder how that Hope and Change thing is working for them, now.........They're still illegal and the Donald has the answer

[CreepyOldDude]

Why do some election officials want to hide evidence of non-citizens voting? (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440580/arcan-cetin-voted-illegally-other-non-citizens-do-too)

Because most non-citizens vote (D) not (R)



Read more at the link.

The main problem with the article is that Arcan Cetin is a naturalized citizen.

KING-TV (http://www.king5.com/news/local/investigators-may-probe-cascade-mall-suspects-citizenship-status-voting-record/327490798)

[del]

For days after the shooting, Cetin was described by local and federal law enforcement as being a permanent U.S. resident. He immigrated to the U.S. from Turkey when he was a child, after his mother married an American citizen.
On Thursday, a federal official told KING that further investigation revealed that Cetin is a naturalized U.S. citizen. That means he was legally registered to vote.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/investigators-may-probe-cascade-mall-suspects-citizenship-status-voting-record/327490798



by all means, carry on

[Tahuyaman]

Why do some election officials want to hide evidence of non-citizens voting
Because they don't want to validate the views of those who want to secure our election / voting process.

[Peter1469]

The main problem with the article is that Arcan Cetin is a naturalized citizen.

KING-TV (http://www.king5.com/news/local/investigators-may-probe-cascade-mall-suspects-citizenship-status-voting-record/327490798)

That is one person. The problem is the numbers voting illegally. At least around here, you show ID and provide a SSN and self certify that you are a citizen.

[del]

That is one person. The problem is the numbers voting illegally. At least around here, you show ID and provide a SSN and self certify that you are a citizen.

you konw, i'd think there'd be some evidence of this massive fraud somewhere, but every time i look-nothing

go figure

[Peter1469]

you konw, i'd think there'd be some evidence of this massive fraud somewhere, but every time i look-nothing

go figure

blackboxvoting dot org

[Tahuyaman]

The main problem with the article is that Arcan Cetin is a naturalized citizen.

KING-TV (http://www.king5.com/news/local/investigators-may-probe-cascade-mall-suspects-citizenship-status-voting-record/327490798)

And he was ineligible to vote for a couple of reasons, but that never stopped him.

[Tahuyaman]

In Washington State the Governor previous to the one we have now was first elected through vote fraud. A sitting US Senator owes his seat to vote fraud.

Lets not pretend it never happens, or no one benefits from it.

[PeoplePower]

Buses of illegals voting multiple times with fake names and SS#s is bad.
The bad thing is it happens.

[PeoplePower]

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/bombshell-1000-illegal-votes-cast-eight-virginia-localities/
Tip of the iceberg.

[del]

blackboxvoting dot org

didn't see a list of convicted fraudulent voters there

[Peter1469]

didn't see a list of convicted fraudulent voters there

You won't find it. You will find much bigger problems.

[del]

You won't find it. You will find much bigger problems.

so, there's nothing there about fraudulent voters?

[Subdermal]

The main problem with the article is that Arcan Cetin is a naturalized citizen.

KING-TV (http://www.king5.com/news/local/investigators-may-probe-cascade-mall-suspects-citizenship-status-voting-record/327490798)

It's not a problem at all - until you establish when he was naturalized. Can you do that?

[Peter1469]

so, there's nothing there about fraudulent voters?

Plenty. You asked for lists. I don't believe the site has complied a list. They investigate specific cases. And world wide. Not just the US. They are also big on being against electronic voting without a paper backup.

[rembrant]

Why do some election officials want to hide evidence of non-citizens voting? (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440580/arcan-cetin-voted-illegally-other-non-citizens-do-too)

Because most non-citizens vote (D) not (R)



Read more at the link. BULLCRAP. Despite a source that's partisan Propaganda and no EVIDENCE.....the reality is Non Citizens seldom register or vote.. nor do they TRY. That's a quick trip out of the USA. Sure....in THEORY there's gonna be a rare case that slips through. You CAN buy a damn convincing FAKE ID. What do you want..DNA tests?

In a group of 5 million.. you probably have a Vote cheat (not always an Illegal immigrant) several fugitive felons, a dozen or more dangerous psychopaths..... and hundreds who break various other laws. There's no SMOOTH way to sort the needles from the haystack. many of the very folks fussing would FREAK if we went all "police state".. but....that's really what they demand. Set aside the Constitution limitations.. and the EXPENSE can also be big.

[rembrant]

Plenty. You asked for lists. I don't believe the site has complied a list. They investigate specific cases. And world wide. Not just the US. They are also big on being against electronic voting without a paper backup.

I DO agree there has to be paper backup. THAT prevents rigging the electronics.

[rembrant]

Buses of illegals voting multiple times with fake names and SS#s is bad.
The bad thing is it happens. No.. the bad thing is that LIARS try to seell such garbage and some fools seek lies they want to believe.

[AZ Jim]

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/bombshell-1000-illegal-votes-cast-eight-virginia-localities/
Tip of the iceberg.No credible reports, just some rightwing blog. Next.

[Peter1469]

BULLCRAP. Despite a source that's partisan Propaganda and no EVIDENCE.....the reality is Non Citizens seldom register or vote.. nor do they TRY. That's a quick trip out of the USA. Sure....in THEORY there's gonna be a rare case that slips through. You CAN buy a damn convincing FAKE ID. What do you want..DNA tests?

In a group of 5 million.. you probably have a Vote cheat (not always an Illegal immigrant) several fugitive felons, a dozen or more dangerous psychopaths..... and hundreds who break various other laws. There's no SMOOTH way to sort the needles from the haystack. many of the very folks fussing would FREAK if we went all "police state".. but....that's really what they demand. Set aside the Constitution limitations.. and the EXPENSE can also be big.

Evidence is evidence even if you ignore it.

There have been stories of prefilled out ballots being found in warehouses.

[del]

Evidence is evidence even if you ignore it.

There have been stories of prefilled out ballots being found in warehouses.

there have been all kinds of stories, some of them are even cool stories, like yours.

still, they're just stories

[Peter1469]

If the "stories" showed 80% of the illegal votes going to non-(D), the hard left would call for executions.

[Chris]

No credible reports, just some rightwing blog. Next.


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